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They Call Us Bruce

English, Social, 1 season, 243 episodes, 3 days, 4 hours, 47 minutes
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Hosts Jeff Yang and Phil Yu present They Call Us Bruce, an unfiltered conversation about what's happening in Asian America.
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237: They Call Us 3 Body Problem

Jeff and Phil welcome co-creator/executive producer Alexander Woo and director Derek Tsang, two of the key creators behind the Netflix series 3 Body Problem. They talk about the challenges of adapting Liu Cixin's epic science fiction novels for a global television audience, the authenticity required to re-create a dark moment China's history, who is responsible for what is possibly the best line of dialogue in the entire series, and the painstaking considerations that went into making that one really horrific scene. If you know, you know. Also: The Good, The Bad and The WTF of making 3 Body Problem.
4/20/202452 minutes, 53 seconds
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236: They Call Us Monkey Man

Jeff and Phil welcome their old friends Sujata Day (Definition Please, Heroes' Feast) and Dino-Ray Ramos (DIASPORA) to talk about the action revenge thriller Monkey Man, written/directed by and starring Dev Patel. They discuss this new take on storytelling from the South Asian diaspora, this blessed era of the Dev Patel Glow-Up, some of the political, religious and cultural controversy surrounding the movie, and of course, the badass action sequences (both borrowed and new) -- including the moment that had everybody in the movie screaming. Also: The Good, The Bad, and The WTF of Monkey Man.
4/12/20241 hour, 49 seconds
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235: They Call Us Asian American Studies

Jeff and Phil welcome Pawan Dhingra, associate provost and associate dean of the faculty at Amherst College and current president of the Association for Asian American Studies. He talks about the newly minted AAPI Studies program at Amherst -- the first of its kind for liberal arts colleges -- what's behind the seemingly sudden surge of interest in Asian American Studies, and how the field still needs to grow and expand. Pawan also talks a bit about Kumon, the South Asian stranglehold on the spelling bee, and his incredibly titled book Hyper Education: Why Good Schools, Good Grades, and Good Behavior Are Not Enough.
4/6/202452 minutes, 38 seconds
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234: They Call Us Avatar: The Last Airbender

Jeff and Phil welcome Albert Kim, showrunner of Netflix's live-action Avatar: The Last Airbender. He talks about the epic challenge of adapting the beloved animated series, "remixing" the original show's story elements for the streaming format, the cultural considerations that go into building an Asian-inspired fantasy world (does Iroh have an accent?) and casting Asian and Indigenous actors for these iconic roles. Plus: Jeff divulges Albert's personal email address. Also: The Good, The Bad, and The WTF of making the live-action Avatar: The Last Airbender.
3/22/20241 hour, 1 minute, 5 seconds
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233: They Call Us Asians in Baseball

Jeff and Phil welcome Kim Cooper and Scott Okamoto, co-hosts of the podcast Asians in Baseball, just in time for spring training. They discuss the current renaissance of Asian and Asian American players in Major League Baseball; becoming a baseball fan in this extraordinary moment; Shohei Otani's ass; the Lenn Sakata Fan Club; and the unifying love of Kim Ha-Seong. Also: The Good, The Bad, and The WTF of Asians in baseball.
3/9/20241 hour, 8 minutes, 31 seconds
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232: They Call Us Olivia Cheng and Dianne Doan

Jeff and Phil welcome Olivia Cheng and Dianne Doan, stars of the badass action series Warrior (now on Netflix!). They talk about how the show has embodied the fighting spirit of Bruce Lee; some of the initial trepidation and concerns they had about their roles at the beginning of the production; and why Olivia is the Ginger Rogers of Warrior. Also: a guest appearance from Dianne's dog and why Olivia's early role as "Dim Sum Girl #1" actually completes an interesting full-circle moment. 
3/1/20241 hour, 6 minutes, 15 seconds
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231: They Call Us Past Lives

In this special conversation recorded live at Asia Society in New York City, Jeff welcomes newly minted Academy Award nominee Celine Song, writer/director of Past Lives. (Spoiler warning!) They discuss the real-life autobiographical moment that inspired her film's bilingual, bi-cultural center; telling a story about the people who hold and know the different parts of ourselves; and how things might have ended up differently for Nora and Hae Sung if they just had better tech and a stronger internet connection. 
2/26/20241 hour, 4 minutes, 43 seconds
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230: They Call Us Nǎi Nai & Wài Pó

Jeff and Phil welcome filmmaker Sean Wang, director of the Academy Award-nominated documentary short Nǎi Nai & Wài Pó, a love letter to his own grandmothers. He talks about making an unapologetically personal film about the everyday lives of these two extraordinary women, why Wài Pó wields a sword, and the amazing gift of getting to experience the film's success as a family. Also: The Good, The Bad, and WTFarts of making Nǎi Nai & Wài Pó.
2/22/202430 minutes, 8 seconds
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229: They Call Us The Most Asian Costco

Jeff and Phil ring in the Year of the Dragon and welcome back friend, journalist and fellow podcaster Ada Tseng to talk about her Los Angeles Times piece which asked and answered a very important question: Which are the "most Asian" Costcos in Southern California? They discuss why the wholesale chain holds a particular appeal for Asian American shoppers, the specialty items you can only find at the Most Asian Costcos, and the spiritual journey of purchasing Kirkland clothing. Also: The Good, The Bad, and The WTF of Costco.
2/16/202454 minutes, 23 seconds
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228: They Call Us Lunar New Year Love Story

Jeff and Phil welcome graphic novel superstars Gene Luen Yang and LeUyen Pham, who have joined forces for Lunar New Year Love Story, a heartwarming rom-com about fate, family, and falling in love. They talk about Gene's real-life origins of merging Valentine's Day and Lunar New Year celebrations, the bad dates and relationships that inspired some of their characters' turmoil, and the natural pan-Asian diversity that infuses the cast and community narrative of Lunar New Love Story.
2/9/202457 minutes, 38 seconds
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227: They Call Us The Greatest Night in Pop

Jeff and Phil welcome back filmmaker Bao Nguyen, director of the documentary The Greatest Night in Pop, which goes behind the scenes of the fateful, once-in-a-lifetime night in 1985 when music's biggest stars gathered to record "We Are the World." He talks about the unique way this iconic pop song transcended cultures and generations, why he told this story like a heist movie, and getting to film at Bruce Springsteen's house. He also may or may not explain Dan Aykroyd's participation in "We Are the World." 
2/2/202450 minutes, 33 seconds
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226: They Call Us Justin Chien and Sam Song Li

Jeff and Phil welcome Justin Chien and Sam Song Li, the stars of the Netflix family crime drama The Brothers Sun. They talk about getting their big shot to play Charles and Bruce -- the titular Brothers Sun; acting opposite the queen herself, Michelle Yeoh; and all the hard work that went into kicking ass (and not getting your ass kicked) in the show's epic fight scenes. Also: The Good, The Bad, and The WTF of making The Brothers Sun. (Note: this episode happens to be sponsored by Netflix and The Brothers Sun.)
1/26/202449 minutes, 43 seconds
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225: They Call Us The Brothers Sun

Jeff and Phil welcome back their favorite usual suspects, Rebecca Sun of The Hollywood Reporter and Dino-Ray Ramos of DIASPORA, to do a deep dive into the Netflix family crime drama The Brothers Sun, starring Michelle Yeoh (but not before a brief recap of recent award show happenings, including the Emmys and Golden Globes). They discuss "rice rocket energy," the #1 Seafood Restaurant, why the San Gabriel Valley is the perfect setting for this Asian American gangster show, and their hopes for a second season of The Brothers Sun. 
1/20/20241 hour, 20 minutes, 55 seconds
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224: They Call Us New Year 2024

Jeff and Phil welcome back their pals Rebecca Sun of The Hollywood Reporter and Dino-Ray Ramos of DIASPORA to take one last look back at the year that was, plus a look forward, with a special super-sized edition of The Good, The Bad, and The WTF (What's The Future). They discuss, among other things, the post-Everything Everywhere All at Once Multiverse, messy Asians, controversies, Beef, Past Lives, Joy Ride, Shortcomings, Elemental, hopes, dreams, fears, and much more. This episode is sponsored by the Netflix series The Brothers Sun.
1/9/20241 hour, 28 minutes, 39 seconds
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223: They Call Us K-Culture

Jeff and Phil close out 2023 and welcome critic and commentator Jae-Ha Kim to talk all things K -- from K-dramas to K-pop, and all the other ways Korean pop culture has spread its infectious K-embrace across the globe. They discuss the best K-dramas of the year (according to Jae-Ha), what happens when BTS takes a break for military service, and the recent tragic death of Lee Sun-kyun. Phil also admits -- nay, declares -- his love of NewJeans.
1/2/20241 hour, 14 minutes, 12 seconds
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222: They Call Us Aquaman and The Lost Kingdom

Jeff and Phil welcome James Wan, filmmaker behind iconic movies like Saw, Insidious, The Conjuring, Furious 7, Aquaman and now, its sequel, Aquaman and The Lost Kingdom. He talks about his journey from making indie horror flicks to tentpole blockbusters, shares his tricks for avoiding sequel-itis, and attempts to say something bad about Randall Park. Presented in partnership with Gold House.
12/22/202328 minutes, 22 seconds
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221: They Call Us Blue Eye Samurai

Jeff and Phil welcome two of the creators behind the Netflix animated action series Blue Eye Samurai, co-creator/co-showrunner Amber Noizumi and supervising director/producer Jane Wu. They discuss some of the personal connections that sparked the tale of mixed race warrior Mizu, bringing a decidedly Asian American take on an Edo-period samurai story, and the lengths they went to assemble the personnel for one of the most badass shows you'll ever see.
12/18/202345 minutes, 24 seconds
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220: They Call Us The Golden Screen

Recorded live at Bās Bookshop in Honolulu, Hawaii! Jeff and Phil celebrate the release of Jeff's new book The Golden Screen: The Movies That Made Asian America, which explores the history of Asian Americans on the silver screen, and the iconic films that have shaped Hollywood, representation, and American culture. They talk about why this moment in representation seemed like the right time for this book, how Jeff chose the movies that "made the cut," and a reconsideration (or reimagining) of Long Duk Dong. Also, in The Good, The Bad and The WTF, they offer some unpopular opinions about Asian American cinema. Special thanks to Aly Ishikuni-Sasaki and the team at Bās Bookshop.
12/9/202341 minutes, 7 seconds
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219: They Call Us The Mash-Up Americans

Jeff and Phil welcome their old friend Amy S. Choi of The Mash-Up Americans, who talks about starting her podcast/media company with a question ("Why not us?"); bringing the Mash-Up lens to the images and stories that don't get told in overly simplistic news verticals; and the latest season of their podcast, which aims to give you The Ultimate Guide to a Mash-Up Life. Also: stay tuned for a special bonus episode from The Mash-Up Americans featuring one of our favorite individuals on the planet, Randall Park.
11/24/20231 hour, 11 minutes, 45 seconds
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218: They Call Us Mustache

Recorded in partnership with the Hawaii International Film Festival. Jeff and Phil welcome filmmaker Imran J. Khan, writer/director of the indie coming-of-age film Mustache. He talks about facial hair, Alicia Silverstone, telling culturally-specific stories without having to simplify or over-explain for audiences, and the bizarre time traveling that happens when you make a movie about a Muslim American family and community set in the late 1990s. 
11/17/202351 minutes, 54 seconds
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217: They Call Us Quiz Lady

Jeff and Phil welcome Jessica Yu, director of the comedy Quiz Lady, starring Sandra Oh and Awkwafina. She talks about bringing her diverse directing experience -- including her Academy Award  -- to a wacky feature comedy; assembling and working with a team of dream collaborators for Quiz Lady; and how they reworked the original script to better reflect the nuance and layers of these mismatched Asian American sisters. Also: The Good, The Bad, and The WTF of making Quiz Lady.
11/10/202333 minutes, 11 seconds
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216: They Call Us The Clones of Bruce

Recorded in partnership with the Hawaii International Film Festival. Jeff and Phil welcome actor/filmmaker Daniel Wu and HIFF artistic director Anderson Le -- fellow Bruce Lee superfans -- to discuss the fascinating documentary Enter the Clones of Bruce, which explores "Brucesploitation," the unique (and often bizarre) 1970s martial arts film subgenre that exploded in the wake of Bruce Lee's untimely death. They talk about Brucesploitation as a classic supply and demand scenario (powered by "all-look-same" racism), their favorite Bruce lookalikes -- Li, Le, Liang, et al -- and the wildest phases of the Bruce Multiverse. Also: The Good, The Bad, and The WTF of the Clones of Bruce. This episode is sponsored by the Westside Theatre's Little Shop of Horrors, starring Constance Wu and Corbin Bleu. Use the discount code LSOPOD10 for $10 off tickets.
11/3/202348 minutes
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215: They Call Us Albert Pyun King of Cult Movies

Recorded in partnership with the Hawaii International Film Festival. Jeff and Phil welcome Lisa D'Apolito, director of the forthcoming documentary Albert Pyun King of Cult Movies, and Anderson Le, Artistic Director of the Hawaii International Film Festival, to talk about the life and career of prolific cult filmmaker Albert Pyun. They discuss Pyun's passion for movie-making by any means necessary, from chasing early cinema dreams in Hawaii, to breakout success with The Sword and the Sorceror, to his ridiculously extensive 50+ movie resume stuffed with direct-to-video titles like Nemesis, Dollman and Crazy Six. Also, believe it or not: The Good, The Bad, and The WTF of the films of Albert Pyun. This episode is sponsored by the Westside Theatre's Little Shop of Horrors, starring Constance Wu and Corbin Bleu. Use the discount code LSOPOD10 for $10 off tickets.
10/27/202347 minutes, 14 seconds
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214: They Call Us Kishi Bashi

Jeff and Phil welcome singer, violinist and multi-instrumentalist Kishi Bashi, whose latest project is the album and "songfilm" Omoiyari, a musical journey to understand World War II-era Japanese American incarceration, assimilation, and what it means to be a minority in America today. He talks about exploring empathy and compassion through music, drawing parallels between incarceration camps and contemporary treatment of migrants and Muslims, and finding better understanding of his own bi-cultural identity in the process.
10/14/202350 minutes, 11 seconds
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213: They Call Us Here Lies Love

Jeff and Phil welcome Arielle Jacobs and Jose Llana, the stars of the revolutionary new Broadway musical Here Lies Love, an immersive roof-raising disco musical that tells the story of Imelda and Ferdinand Marcos. They discuss the unique thrill of performing in this groundbreaking, form-busting theatre experience, their immense pride in being a part of Broadway's first ever all-Filipino cast, and the complicated responsibility of narrativizing this very real history of the Philippines.
10/6/202348 minutes, 54 seconds
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212: They Call Us Magnificent Jerk

Jeff and Phil welcome Maya Lin Sugarman and James Kim, producers behind the podcast Magnificent Jerk, "the true story—of a fake story—about a real life." They talk about the fascinating life and career of Maya's late uncle Galen Yuen, and the box of his belongings that sent Maya on mission to discover her family’s biggest secrets—including the truth behind the possibly autobiographical screenplay that eventually became a bad B-movie starring.... Rob Lowe, Burt Reynolds, and Ice-T. Also: The Good, The Bad and The WTF of making Magnificent Jerk.
9/22/202349 minutes, 53 seconds
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211: They Call Us Liquor Store Dreams

Jeff and Phil welcome filmmaker So Yun Um, director of the feature documentary Liquor Store Dreams, an intimate portrait of two Korean American children of Los Angeles liquor store owners. She talks about confronting popular media depictions of Korean American store owners, turning the camera on herself to tell this deeply personal story, and hitting record during some very tough, heated conversations with her family members. Also: The Good, The Bad, and The WTF of making Liquor Store Dreams.
9/15/202348 minutes, 18 seconds
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210: They Call Us Dear Alana

Jeff and Phil welcome Simon Kent Fung, creator and host of the podcast Dear Alana, an eight-part limited series that tells the story of aspiring nun Alana Chen, who tragically ended her life at the age of 24 after seven years in conversion therapy. Simon talks about telling this gripping, intimate story through the dozens of journals Alana left behind, his own shockingly similar parallel experience with conversion therapy, and The Good, The Bad, and The WTF of being open about who you are. Also: stay tuned for the first episode of Dear Alana from Tenderfoot TV.
9/8/20231 hour, 25 minutes, 6 seconds
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209: They Call Us On Strike

Jeff and Phil welcome actor Parvesh Cheena and writer Liz Hsiao Lan Alper to discuss the ongoing SAG-AFTRA and WGA strikes, which have brought the entertainment industry to a standstill. They discuss the conditions and contract issues that necessitated these labor actions, what work stoppage and picketing has meant for the average (and most marginalized) Hollywood workers, and The Good, The Bad and The WTF of being on strike.
9/1/202356 minutes, 1 second
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208: They Call Us Love Boat Revisited

Jeff and Phil rewind and revisit their 2019 conversation with filmmaker Valerie Soe, director of the documentary Love Boat: Taiwan, and writer Abigail Hing Wen, author of the bestselling young adult novel Loveboat, Taipei -- now adapted for the screen as the feature film Love in Taipei, starring Ashley Liao and Ross Butler. They discuss the Taiwanese summer cultural program notoriously known as "Love Boat" and why it was the perfect, long overdue moment to tell these stories.
8/17/202359 minutes, 28 seconds
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207: They Call Us Shortcomings

[NOTE: This episode was recorded before the start of the SAG-AFTRA strike. They Call Us Bruce fully supports the actors and writers unions and their fight for fair contracts.] Jeff and Phil welcome Randall Park and Justin H. Min to talk about their new film Shortcomings, based on the 2007 graphic novel by Adrian Tomine. They discuss Randall's directorial debut, parodying Crazy Rich Asians, sandwiches, getting away from the rep sweats and feeling free to make stories about unlovable, messy Asian Americans like Ben Tanaka. Also: The Good, The Bad, and The WTF of making Shortcomings.
8/4/202345 minutes, 44 seconds
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206: They Call Us Hoon Lee (+The Official Warrior Podcast)

[NOTE: This episode was recorded before the start of the SAG-AFTRA strike. They Call Us Bruce fully supports the actors and writers unions and their fight for fair contracts.] Jeff and Phil welcome actor Hoon Lee, who stars as Wang Chao on the action drama Warrior. He talks about playing a character situated between several worlds, getting in on the action, and the unique bond that forms between an all-Asian cast. Also: stay tuned for a special bonus edition of The Official Warrior Podcast, hosted by Lisa Ling and Hoon Lee, on the life and legacy of Bruce Lee.
7/21/20231 hour, 35 minutes, 45 seconds
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205: They Call Us Nicole Chung

Jeff and Phil welcome writer Nicole Chung, author of All You Can Ever Know, which tells the story of her adoption and search for her birth family, and A Living Remedy, her memoir about grief and the death of her adoptive parents. They discuss grieving under capitalism, writing and enduring through loss (and a global pandemic), If John Cho Were Your Boyfriend, and why you should never ever ever tell casual strangers that you're a writer. Also: They Good, The Bad, and The WTF of writing your life.
7/14/202356 minutes, 49 seconds
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204: They Call Us Joy Ride

Jeff and Phil welcome director Adele Lim, screenwriters Cherry Chevapravatdumrong and Teresa Hsiao, and stars Ashley Park, Stephanie Hsu and Sherry Cola -- the team behind the hilarious new comedy JOY RIDE. Recorded the morning after the film's world premiere at South by Southwest in Austin, they talk about The Good, The Bad, and The WTF of making Joy Ride -- a discussion that included, among many things, K-pop, Kumon, Settlers of Catan, Squid Game, trauma outfits, Vancouver weather and what joke went too far. 
7/7/202342 minutes, 11 seconds
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203: They Call Us Hari Kondabolu

Jeff and Phil welcome comedian Hari Kondabolu, whose latest standup special VACATION BABY is available on YouTube. He talks about how becoming a parent -- during the pandemic -- informed his act, why Father's Day should be observed on a leap year, making peace with Hank Azaria in the aftermath of his documentary The Problem with Apu, and why he's got no love for San Diego. Plus: The Good, The Bad, and The WTF of being a dad. Hint: it involves poop. 
6/23/202344 minutes, 51 seconds
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202: They Call Us Elemental

Jeff and Phil welcome Peter Sohn and Leah Lewis, director and star, respectively, of the new Disney/Pixar animated feature ELEMENTAL. They talk about drawing from Peter’s own immigrant family and upbringing to tell a deeply personal story, how even anthropomorphic fire and water can make moving and compelling narrative chemistry, and why computer animation still isn’t as simple as punching a button. Plus: The Good, The Bad and The WTF of making Elemental. 
6/16/20231 hour, 9 minutes, 23 seconds
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201: They Call Us American Born Chinese

With Jeff on vacation, Phil flies solo and welcomes back Gene Luen Yang, author of AMERICAN BORN CHINESE, and actor Ben Wang, who stars as Jin Wang in the Disney+ series adaptation of the acclaimed graphic novel. They talk about some of the tricky considerations when it came to bringing this beloved book to life, how they updated the story for contemporary television (and contemporary Asian America), and how toy robots and Panda Express can bring people together. 
6/9/202345 minutes, 37 seconds
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200: They Call Us 200

Jeff and Phil celebrate 200 episodes of They Call Us Bruce by welcoming back some good friends and returning guests from Episode 100: actor Daniel Wu, who stars as the Monkey King in Disney's adaptation of AMERICAN BORN CHINESE, and comedian/filmmaker W. Kamau Bell, whose HBO original documentary 1000% ME: GROWING UP MIXED explores multiracial identity though conversations with kids and families. They discuss why the kids are all right, the meme-ification of Bruce Lee, and The Good, The Bad, and The WTF of having a foot in two worlds. Plus: Phil and Kamau engage in an impromptu Daniel Tiger sing-off.
6/5/20231 hour, 9 minutes, 43 seconds
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Bonus: They Call Us Modern Minorities

In celebration of AAPI Heritage Month, They Call Us Bruce is putting a spotlight on some of our podcast friends, so we’re featuring an episode from Modern Minorities, one of our sister podcasts from the Potluck Podcast Collective. Modern Minorities is trying to solve racism… one conversation at a time. Hosted by Asian American friends Sharon and Raman, Modern Minorities features minority voices for ALL of our majority ears. This is a show about all of you for all of us. On the episode we’re featuring here, Sharon and Raman talk to Gabrielle Berbey, a  documentary audio producer and one of the hosts of The Experiment, who actually produced a three-part series about SPAM. And WHY Filipinos love SPAM. Learn more about Modern Minorities and our other Potluck Podcasts at podcastpotluck.com. 
5/31/20231 hour, 2 minutes, 46 seconds
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Bonus: They Call Us Asians in Baseball

In celebration of AAPI Heritage Month, They Call Us Bruce is putting a spotlight on some of our podcast friends, so we’re featuring an episode from Asians in Baseball, one of our sister podcasts from the Potluck Podcast Collective. Hosted by Scott Okamoto, Kim Cooper, and Naomi Ko, Asians in Baseball is about … Asians in baseball. Each week, they break down what’s notable with the Asian players in professional baseball and then take a deeper dive into the Asians and Asian Americans who have shaped baseball as it is today. On the episode featured here, Scott, Kim and Naomi do indeed discuss Asians in baseball, and do a player profile of legendary hitter Hideki Matsui. Learn more about Asians in Baseball and our other Potluck Podcasts at podcastpotluck.com.
5/30/20231 hour, 17 minutes, 5 seconds
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199: They Call Us Tze Chun

Jeff and Phil welcome back Tze Chun, showrunner behind not one, but two new shows: the animated prequel series GREMLINS: SECRETS OF MOGWAI and the Boots Riley-created absurdist coming-of-age comedy I'M A VIRGO. He talks about spinning new lore from a classic franchise, putting Chinese characters at the center ("unless otherwise noted"), getting to tell "weird" stories about people of color, and making sure fellow Asian American creators get a boost.
5/26/202349 minutes, 5 seconds
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198: They Call Us Connie

Jeff and Phil welcome two of the legions of Asian American women of a certain age who were named after journalist Connie Chung: writer Connie Wang, whose New York Times piece "Generation Connie" put a spotlight on this phenomenon, and cartoonist Connie Sun, one of the many namesakes of the trailblazing newswoman who participated in the "Con Con." They talk about this unique sisterhood, the aspirational qualities of naming your kid Connie, and The Good, The Bad and The WTF of being named Connie.
5/19/202352 minutes, 13 seconds
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197: They Call Us Girl Taking Over

Jeff and Phil welcome writer Sarah Kuhn and artist Arielle Jovellanos, whose new original DC young adult graphic novel GIRL TAKING OVER: A LOIS LANE STORY re-imagines Lois Lane as an Asian American teen tackling a summer internship in the big city. They talk about finding your people, putting an Asian American twist on a beloved legacy character, the dreaded drawing of cars and crowds, and re-directing the scent of stinky lunchbox moments.
5/14/20231 hour, 1 minute, 9 seconds
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196: They Call Us Ten Thousand Things

Jeff and Phil welcome Shin Yu Pai, award-winning poet, museologist, and host of TEN THOUSAND THINGS, a podcast about modern-day artifacts of Asian American life. They discuss the personal objects and collections that say who we are and where we've been, from Rep. Andy Kim's now-famous blue suit to our precious stuffed loved ones. They also play a special show-and-tell version of The Good, The Bad and The WTF featuring their own Asian American artifacts.
5/4/202349 minutes, 48 seconds
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195: They Call Us Shib Sibs

Jeff and Phil welcome amazing sibling duo Alex and Maia Shibutani, two-time Olympic medalist ice dancers and authors of the children's picture book AMAZING: ASIAN AMERICANS AND PACIFIC ISLANDERS WHO INSPIRE US ALL. They discuss their unique journey growing up as brother/sister teammates on the ice, their evolution as role models and community advocates, and The Good, The Bad, and The WTF of working with your sibling.
4/30/202359 minutes, 24 seconds
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194: They Call Us K-Pop Dreaming

Jeff and Phil welcome Vivian Yoon, host and writer of the podcast K-Pop Dreaming from LAist Studios, a journey through the rise and history of K-pop in the United States, mapped against Vivian's own coming-of-age as a second generation Korean American in Los Angeles. They talk about some of the unknown stories behind K-pop's ascent, how diasporic Korean identity has always been in conversation with K-pop, and how to feel, as Asian Americans, about K-pop's seemingly sudden global dominance and ubiquity. This episode is sponsored by the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services. Learn more about updated COVID vaccines at vaccines.gov. #WeCanDoThis
4/19/20231 hour, 4 minutes, 27 seconds
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193: They Call Us Beef

Jeff and Phil welcome back the Bruce Crew, perennial favorite guests Rebecca Sun of The Hollywood Reporter and Dino-Ray Ramos of DIASPORA, to slice, dice and discuss the Netflix series BEEF. They talk about the evolution and future of Asian American storytelling, the seductive appeal of the worship leader oppa, and what happens when Asian American character are allowed to be their whole, messy, specific selves. Also, stick around for the bonus SPOILER discussion at the end of the episode. 
4/11/20231 hour, 13 minutes, 31 seconds
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192: They Call Us Sexy Asians

Jeff and Phil welcome Susie An and Esther Yoon-Ji Kang, hosts of WBEZ Chicago's Shoes Off: A Sexy Asians Podcast. They talk about scheming up the podcast as a shameless, naked excuse to talk to sexy Asians; the public radio hoops they had to jump through to get it made; and why listeners in search of "bold sexual discourse" might be disappointed. And of course, they discuss The Good, The Bad, and The WTF of sexy Asians.
4/1/202352 minutes, 8 seconds
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191: They Call Us Everything Everywhere All Asian Oscars

Recorded the day after the 95th Academy Awards, Jeff and Phil welcome perennial favorite guests Rebecca Sun of The Hollywood Reporter and Dino-Ray Ramos of DIASPORA to debrief and discuss a historic night at the Oscars, for Everything Everywhere All at Once, Michelle Yeoh, Ke Huy Quan, Daniels -- and Asians in general.
3/21/202341 minutes, 32 seconds
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190: They Call Us Unseen

Jeff and Phil welcome Yoko Okumura, Midori Francis and Jolene Purdy, the director and stars, respectively, of the horror/thriller UNSEEN. They discuss the challenges of crafting a story about two people connecting via FaceTime; the unique storytelling dynamic that occurs when a movie, not originally conceived as an Asian American story, is told by a director and two leads who happen to be Japanese American; And The Good, The Bad, and The WTF of making UNSEEN (hint: involves bugs).
3/11/202359 minutes, 41 seconds
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189: They Call Us Everything Everywhere All at Once Again

Jeff and Phil revisit the film EVERYTHING EVERYWHERE ALL AT ONCE, now in the thick of awards season and on the cusp of Oscars glory, with an epic super-sized compilation of their previous conversations with Ke Huy Quan, Stephanie Hsu, Daniel Kwan, and of course, Michelle Yeoh -- who now all happen to be Academy Award nominees.
3/3/20231 hour, 33 minutes, 39 seconds
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188: They Call Us White Savior

Jeff and Phil welcome Eric Nguyen and Scott Burman, creators of WHITE SAVIOR, a hilarious comic book spoof of white savior stories (à la The Last Samurai, The Great Wall). They talk about their creative partnership, the unique confidence of white guys, and why the time was right for a samurai skewering of this tired and tiring narrative trope.
2/16/202356 minutes, 7 seconds
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187: They Call Us Heartbroken

Jeff and Phil break format and take a moment to react to the mass shootings in Monterey Park and Half Moon Bay. This one's kind of raw.
1/25/202342 minutes, 45 seconds
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186: They Call Us Missing

Jeff and Phil welcome filmmaker Aneesh Chaganty, writer/director of the hit thriller SEARCHING, and writer/producer of its follow-up feature MISSING. He talks about why 2018's Searching is now a period piece, the seemingly simple but actually super-complicated process of telling a story that unfolds entirely on screens, and why he and the team are not in any rush (for now) to make a third movie in the "Searching Cinematic Universe."
1/20/202332 minutes, 48 seconds
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185: They Call Us New Year 2023

Jeff and Phil welcome the new year with one last look back at the year that was, in the kind of super-sized conversation they only reserve for two of their perennially favorite guests: Rebecca Sun of The Hollywood Reporter and Dino-Ray Ramos of Diaspora. They discuss personal developments, the tired and tiring buzzwords of diversity, and finally falling to COVID-19. They also go three rounds of a special new year edition of The Good, The Bad and The WTF: Boost, Mask and Unknown Variant, sponsored by the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services. Find an updated COVID vaccine near you at vaccines.gov. #WeCanDoThis.
1/13/20231 hour, 44 minutes, 27 seconds
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184: They Call Us Rodney Faraon

Jeff and Phil welcome former intelligence officer, security expert, writer/producer and amateur chef(!) Rodney Faraon. In the final episode of an extremely tumultuous year, they discuss a wide range of topics, including Twitter's sad plunge into the toilet, the mishandling of top secret secrets, what it's like to have your CIA career inspire a TV series starring Katherine Heigl, and why risotto is the kiss of death of cooking competitions. 
12/30/20221 hour, 1 minute, 45 seconds
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183: They Call Us Queen of Christmas

Jeff and Phil welcome singer-songwriter Elizabeth Chan, the world's only full-time recording artist dedicated to original Christmas music -- and still, legally, the "Queen of Christmas." She talks about her prolific output of Christmas music -- an album a year for the past twelve years and counting --  her trademark victory over Mariah Carey to keep the crown, and what it's like to have the holidays in your heart year-round. This episode sponsored by the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services. Find an updated COVID vaccine near you at vaccines.gov. #WeCanDoThis.
12/23/202250 minutes, 56 seconds
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182: They Call Us The Black Widow

Jeff and Phil welcome champion pool player Jeanette Lee, subject of the ESPN documentary 30 FOR 30: JEANETTE LEE VS., and director Ursula Liang. They discuss the career and legacy of the "Black Widow" in professional billiards and beyond, overcoming pain and pressure from all sides when life knocks you down, and approaching the pool table with confidence, swagger, and your whole, authentic, black-clad self. This episode sponsored by the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services. Find an updated COVID vaccine near you at vaccines.gov. #WeCanDoThis.
12/14/20221 hour, 2 minutes, 47 seconds
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181: They Call Us Atsuko Okatsuka

Jeff and Phil welcome comedian Atsuko Okatsuka, who stars in her first HBO comedy special THE INTRUDER. She talks about the actual and metaphorical intruders that inspired her act, going really really really viral on TikTok with the "drop" challenge, blurring the personal and private on stage, and why her grandma deserved a lap dance at Magic Mike Live. This episode sponsored by the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services. Find an updated COVID vaccine near you at vaccines.gov. #WeCanDoThis.
12/9/202252 minutes, 57 seconds
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180: They Call Us Thankful 2022

Jeff and Phil welcome some good friends from the Potluck Podcast Collective: Ada Tseng (Los Angeles Times, Saturday School), Scott Okamoto (Asians in Baseball, Chapel Probation), and Kim Cooper (Asians in Baseball, Korean Drama Podcast) to celebrate "friendsgiving" and play a very special Thanksgiving edition of everybody's favorite roundtable segment: Thanks, No Thanks and WTF.
11/25/20221 hour, 14 minutes, 33 seconds
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179: They Call Us Bad Axe

Jeff and Phil welcome filmmaker David Siev, director of the documentary BAD AXE, a pandemic portrait of his own family in rural Michigan as they fight to keep their American dream alive. He talks about telling his family's story through the lens of America's very real and very current racial tensions, dealing with actual local white supremacists, and making a documentary that weirdly folded in on itself partway through production.
11/18/202244 minutes, 29 seconds
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178: They Call Us Maulik Pancholy

Jeff and Phil welcome back award-winning actor and writer Maulik Pancholy, who talks about his latest middle grade novel NIKHIL OUT LOUD, a sweet coming-of-age story about a gay Indian American teen. He talks about the anti-gay backlash he received for his first book THE BEST AT IT that inspired this new novel, what it's like to get your book banned by school districts, and the important question at the center of all this controversy that nobody seems to be asking: who's listening to the kids?
11/11/202259 minutes, 37 seconds
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177: They Call Us Raymond Lee

Jeff and Phil welcome Raymond Lee, star of NBC's sci-fi drama QUANTUM LEAP. He talks about leaping into the lead role of a lifetime, subverting the notion that time travel is for white people, and why being great at nothing but passably good at a lot of things is perfect for playing Dr. Ben Song.
11/4/202246 minutes, 55 seconds
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176: They Call Us Jay Chen

Jeff and Phil welcome Jay Chen, who is running for the U.S. House of Representatives in California’s congressional 45th district. He talks about why his Daily Show appearance from 2010 still weirdly remains relevant, his opponent’s increasingly shameless xenophobic and red-baiting attacks, and the benefit of running for congress in a super-Asian district that has so many incredible food options.
10/28/202248 minutes, 50 seconds
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175: They Call Us Thai Cave Rescue

Jeff and Phil welcome Kevin Tancheroen, executive producer and director of the Netflix series THAI CAVE RESCUE, which tells the true story of the global rescue effort to save twelve young boys and their soccer coach from a flooded cave. He talks about shooting in absurdly wet conditions, reconnecting with his own Thai roots, and prioritizing the soccer team (and the people of Thailand) at the center of this extraordinary story.
10/20/202252 minutes, 19 seconds
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174: They Call Us 38 at the Garden

Jeff and Phil welcome Frank Chi, director of the documentary short 38 AT THE GARDEN, which chronicles the extraordinary ascendance of Jeremy Lin during his landmark 2012 season with the New York Knicks -- and the fateful game where he dropped 38 points on the Los Angeles Lakers. They look back at the sheer joy of that moment, what it meant for Asian Americans, and why it still resonates ten years later.
10/13/202254 minutes, 1 second
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173: They Call Us Tanuj Chopra

Jeff and Phil welcome back friend and filmmaker Tanuj Chopra, director of season two of the Netflix series Delhi Crime. He talks about making the leap from indie films to international television, bringing an  insider/outsider perspective to get the tone right, and the future of global storytelling.
9/30/202241 minutes, 48 seconds
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172: They Call Us Yuji Okumoto

Jeff and Phil welcome actor Yuji Okumoto, who stars in season five of Netflix's Cobra Kai as Chozen Toguchi, the role he originated in 1986's The Karate Kid Pt. II. He talks about stepping back into the Karate Kid Cinematic Universe, his (and ours, and everybody's) love for Kumiko, and getting an unexpected redemption arc for his character over thirty years later.
9/23/202250 minutes, 8 seconds
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171: They Call Us Jamie Ford

Jeff and Phil welcome bestselling author Jamie Ford, whose latest novel The Many Daughters of Afong Moy is described as an "epigenetic love story." He talks about the tragic real life of the first Chinese woman in America, weaving the intricate story of her imagined descendants, and exploring (and perhaps overcoming) inherited intergenerational trauma.
9/16/202251 minutes, 56 seconds
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170: They Call Us Partner Track

Jeff and Phil welcome Arden Cho, star of Partner Track, and Helen Wan, author of the original book that inspired the Netflix series. They discuss Helen's real-life career as a corporate attorney that inspired the novel, how Ingrid Yung became Ingrid Yun, and the convergence of timing and talent that finally made this adaptation possible. This episode is paid for by the U.S Department of Health and Human Services. Find boosters near you at vaccines.gov. #WeCanDoThis.
8/26/202246 minutes, 40 seconds
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169: They Call Us Free Chol Soo Lee

Jeff and Phil welcome Julie Ha and Eugene Yi, directors of the documentary FREE CHOL SOO LEE, which tells the story of a community's landmark fight to free an innocent man. They discuss the important legacy of the case, why they were compelled to shine a light on this singular moment, the generational responsibility of unearthing our stories. This episode is paid for by the U.S Department of Health and Human Services. Find boosters near you at vaccines.gov. #WeCanDoThis.
8/19/202257 minutes, 19 seconds
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168: They Call Us Wesley Chu

Recorded live at Vroman's Bookstore in Pasadena! Jeff and Phil welcome novelist Wesley Chu, author of the epic fantasy The Art of Prophecy. He talks about writing fight scenes, allowing his characters to do what they want to do, and why this wuxia-inspired novel is the story he's been wanting to tell his whole life. This episode is paid for by the U.S Department of Health and Human Services. Find boosters near you at vaccines.gov. #WeCanDoThis.
8/17/202247 minutes, 6 seconds
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167: They Call Us Yuh-Line Niou

Jeff and Phil welcome congressional candidate Yuh-Line Niou, who is running for the House of Representatives in New York's newly drawn 10th district. She talks about truly representational politics, making the legislative process more accessible for all, and The Good, The Bad and The WTF of running for congress. This episode is paid for by the U.S Department of Health and Human Services. Find boosters near you at vaccines.gov. #WeCanDoThis.   
8/12/20221 hour, 54 seconds
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166: They Call Us Katherine J. Wu

Jeff and Phil welcome journalist Katherine J. Wu, who covers science as staff writer for The Atlantic. She talks about joining science with storytelling, where we went wrong (and right) with our collective pandemic response, and the most erroneous assumptions we're making about COVID right now. This episode is paid for by the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services. Find boosters near you at vaccines.gov. #WeCanDoThis. 
8/10/20221 hour, 11 minutes, 9 seconds
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165: They Call Us Jo Koy

In this special bonus episode, Jeff talks to Jo Koy, comedian and star of the movie Easter Sunday. He talks about the execs who told him his Filipino American story was "too specific," getting the backing of none other than Steven Spielberg, and doing it for the culture. For the culture!
8/5/202215 minutes, 32 seconds
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164: They Call Us Lou Diamond Phillips

Jeff and Phil welcome the man, the myth, the legend: actor Lou Diamond Phillips, who appears in the new movie Easter Sunday. They discuss how Filipino Americans are having a moment, LDP as LDP, achieving "icon" status, and The Good, The Bad and The WTF of being ambiguously Filipino. This episode is paid for by the U.S Department of Health and Human Services. Find boosters near you at vaccines.gov. #WeCanDoThis. 
8/5/202237 minutes, 3 seconds
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163: They Call Us Simran Jeet Singh

Jeff and Phil welcome Simran Jeet Singh, scholar, activist and author of the book The Light We Give: How Sikh Wisdom Can Transform You Life. He talks about his journey of faith, dad jokes, his refusal to give in to negativity, and The Good, The Bad and The WTF of being Sikh.
8/2/20221 hour, 4 minutes, 36 seconds
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162: They Call Us Love and Noraebang

Jeff and Phil welcome key creatives behind the k-drama/telenovela-inspired narrative podcast rom-com LOVE AND NORAEBANG: co-director Amy S. Choi, co-writer Quincy Cho, and actress Julia Cho. They discuss telling stories with joy and authenticity, and why Randall Park is the perfect voice of Los Angeles.
7/22/202259 minutes, 35 seconds
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161c: They Call Us Live From New York - Part 3

Recorded live at The Greene Space at WNYC! Sponsored by UBS. In celebration of AAPI Heritage Month, Jeff and Phil welcome tech entrepreneur/thinkers Anil Dash and Ben Sun to talk about Asian American impact on the tech industry (and get nostalgic about Asian Avenue). Part 3 of the in-studio "RISE Conversations" inspired by RISE: A Pop History of Asian America from the Nineties to Now. Produced with the generous support of UBS.
7/15/202242 minutes, 17 seconds
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161b: They Call Us Live From New York - Part 2

Recorded live at The Greene Space at WNYC! Sponsored by UBS. In celebration of AAPI Heritage Month, Jeff and Phil welcome writer/comedian Karen Chee and costume designer Minji Kim to talk about Asian American visibility in fashion and entertainment. Part 2 of the in-studio "RISE Conversations" inspired by RISE: A Pop History of Asian America from the Nineties to Now. Produced with the generous support of UBS.
7/15/202234 minutes, 40 seconds
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161a: They Call Us Live From New York - Part 1

Recorded live at The Greene Space at WNYC! Sponsored by UBS. In celebration of AAPI Heritage Month, Jeff and Phil welcome chef Dale Talde, food personality Agnes Chung Talde and writer Frankie Huang to talk about the rise of Asian American food culture. Part 1 of the in-studio “RISE Conversations” inspired by RISE: A Pop History of Asian America from the Nineties to Now. Produced with the generous support of UBS.
7/15/202236 minutes, 7 seconds
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160: They Call Us Kathleen Kim

Jeff and Phil welcome Kathleen Kim, the puppeteer behind Ji-Young, Sesame Street's first Asian American muppet. She talks about the process of bringing Ji-Young to life, her surprising  journey as a puppeteer thus far, and The Good, The Bad and The WTF of working on Sesame Street.
7/7/20221 hour, 9 minutes, 31 seconds
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159: They Call Us Post-Heritage Month Blues

Jeff and Phil are still alive! Your hosts return to recap and reset after an extended, unintended hiatus. They discuss their most hectic Heritage Month ever, the suckiness of finally succumbing to COVID-19, and The Good, The Bad, and The WTF of what they missed over the last two months.
6/24/202250 minutes, 1 second
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158: They Call Us Marvelous and the Black Hole

Jeff and Phil welcome writer/director Kate Tsang and actress Miya Cech to talk about their film MARVELOUS AND THE BLACK HOLE. They discuss making a different kind of Asian American coming-of-age movie, working with the inimitable Rhea Perlman, and mastering the secrets of sleight of hand.
4/21/202250 minutes, 48 seconds
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157: They Call Us Michelle Yeoh

Jeff and Phil welcome the legendary, incomparable Michelle Yeoh, star of EVERYTHING EVERYWHERE ALL AT ONCE. She talks about being the center of the multiverse, embracing absurdity, and the fantastic mediocrity of Evelyn Wang.
4/15/202221 minutes, 46 seconds
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156: They Call Us Daniel Kwan and Stephanie Hsu

Jeff and Phil welcome writer/director Daniel Kwan (one-half of Daniels) and actress Stephanie Hsu to talk about everybody's new favorite film EVERYTHING EVERYWHERE ALL AT ONCE. They discuss meaningful pelvic thrusting, why Stephanie is actually a witch, and the exclusive secret origin of "Jobu Tapaki."
4/12/202239 minutes, 56 seconds
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155: They Call Us Ke Huy Quan

Jeff and Phil welcome a generational icon: Ke Huy Quan, who stars in the film Everything Everywhere All at Once. He talks about his humble beginnings as a child actor in Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom and The Goonies, how Crazy Rich Asians inspired his triumphant return to acting, and how to kick ass with a fanny pack (but not on the first take).
4/8/202241 minutes, 23 seconds
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154: They Call Us Everything Everywhere All at Once

Jeff and Phil welcome back their old friends Rebecca Sun of The Hollywood Reporter and Dino-Ray Ramos of Diaspora to discuss their new favorite movie, Daniels' multiverse masterpiece Everything Everywhere All at Once. From Ke Huy Quan to butt plugs to hot dog hands, this film has it all and then some.
4/5/20221 hour, 31 minutes, 44 seconds
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153: They Call Us Turning Red

Jeff and Phil welcome Shirley Li (The Atlantic) and Anita Li (The Green Line) to talk about Meilin Lee and Disney/Pixar's animated feature TURNING RED. They discuss the incredible specificity of this Chinese Canadian story, what makes a film "relatable" and why it's so meaningful to let your teen girl characters go "AWOOGA!"
3/31/20221 hour, 2 minutes, 3 seconds
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152: They Call Us Iris K. Shim

Jeff and Phil welcome Iris K. Shim, writer/director of the feature film UMMA. She talks about working with the one and only Sandra Oh, incorporating traditional Korean cultural elements into a horror story, and whether or not her own umma will watch her movie.
3/18/202229 minutes, 38 seconds
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151: They Call Us Domee Shi

Jeff and Phil welcome Oscar-winning filmmaker Domee Shi, writer/director of the Pixar animated feature TURNING RED. They discuss making an unapologetically Asian Canadian story, intergenerational drama, releasing the beast within, and accepting your whole self -- even your whole self is a giant red panda.
3/11/202229 minutes, 11 seconds
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150: They Call Us RISE

On the eve of their long-anticipated book release, Jeff and Phil welcome co-author Philip Wang and project manager Jes Vu, their co-conspirators on RISE: A Pop History of Asian America From the Nineties to Now. They discuss behind-the-scenes details on the making of the book, including The Good, The Bad and The WTF.
3/4/20221 hour, 21 minutes, 7 seconds
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149: They Call Us Shoes Off

Jeff and Phil round up The Good, The Bad and The WTF of the week, including Ali Wong's latest standup special, Asian American excellence at the Winter Olympics, anti-Asian violence, Wrong Asians, and taking off your damn shoes inside the house.
2/18/202248 minutes, 39 seconds
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148: They Call Us Dante Basco

Jeff and Phil welcome the one and only Dante Basco. He talks about his directorial debut The Fabulous Filipino Brothers, making a movie with his family -- his entire family -- growing up in Hollywood, and being perpetually linked to iconic characters, including Prince Zuko and, of course, RUFIO.
2/10/202257 minutes, 28 seconds
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147: They Call Us Year of the Tiger

Jeff and Phil welcome Potluck Podcast pals Ada Tseng (Saturday School) and Raman Sehgal (Modern Minorities, Quarantined Comics) to celebrate the Lunar New Year and discuss superstitions, superheroes, Michelle Yeoh, Lou Diamond Phillips, urine, basement bunkers and utility journalism.
2/3/20221 hour, 17 minutes, 55 seconds
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146: They Call Us Lisa Ling

Jeff and Phil welcome award-winning journalist Lisa Ling, host of the new docuseries TAKE OUT WITH LISA LING. She talks about her own family's Chinese restaurant roots, the new ubiquity of Asian cuisines -- and the untold stories behind them, and why she does indeed have the best job in the world.
1/27/202242 minutes, 30 seconds
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145: They Call Us Mayor Michelle Wu

Jeff and Phil welcome Michelle Wu, Mayor of Boston. She talks about breaking barriers as the first woman and first person of color elected to lead her city, hitting the ground running, "getting city hall out of city hall," and embracing both legacy and innovation.
1/20/202234 minutes, 20 seconds
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144: They Call Us Very Asian

Jeff and Phil welcome Michelle Li, reporter and anchor for KDSK in St. Louis, and Marian Chia-Ming Liu, Operations Editor for the Washington Post. They discuss racist voicemails, reclaiming our Asian names, and the significance of being Very Asian in 2022.
1/13/20221 hour, 4 minutes, 3 seconds
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143: They Call Us 2022

Jeff and Phil return from the holiday "break" and ring in the New Year with one last look back, talking about The Good, The Bad and The WTF of 2021 -- including Marvel movies, squid games, library rockers, big city mayors, licorice pizzas and the damn omicron.
1/6/20221 hour, 21 minutes, 20 seconds
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142: They Call Us Thankful 2021

Jeff and Phil welcome entertainment writer/critic friends Hanh Nguyen and Piya Sinha-Roy to catch up and discuss recent pop culture happenings, including Squid Game, Eternals, and Cowboy Bebop. They also play a Thanksgiving edition of their favorite segment: Thankful, Not Thankful and WTF.
11/25/20211 hour, 23 minutes, 24 seconds
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141: They Call Us Ally Maki

Jeff and Phil welcome actress Ally Maki, who stars in the Marvel  series Hit Monkey. They discuss making movies and television during the pandemic, embracing the wild weirdness of an animated primate assassin, and creating community of shared identity: Asian American Girl Club.
11/19/202128 minutes, 59 seconds
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140: They Call Us The Good Asian

Jeff and Phil welcome writer Pornsak Pichetshote, creator of the noir crime comic book The Good Asian. They discuss the inspiration behind his Chinese American detective Edison Hark, the real-life history at heart of this hard-boiled mystery, and why The Good Asian, set in 1930s Chinatown, feels like a tale for modern times.
11/12/20211 hour, 13 minutes, 55 seconds
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139: They Call Us Asian Faces

Jeff and Phil welcome journalist Elise Hu, author of the forthcoming book Flawless, and David Yi, found and editor of Very Good Light. They discuss "aggressively Asian" faces, multi-step skincare regiments, and the global rise of K-beauty.
11/5/20211 hour, 1 minute, 16 seconds
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138: They Call Us SL Huang

Jeff and Phil welcome mathematician and award-winning science fiction author SL Huang, who also happens to be a stuntwoman, firearms expert, and the first woman to be a professional armorer in Hollywood. They discuss her unique career, the recent tragic firearm incident on the set of Rust, the extensive procedures involved with on-set weapons safety -- and how things can go wrong.
10/28/20211 hour, 3 minutes, 29 seconds
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137: They Call Us Kat Chow

Jeff and Phil welcome writer and friend Kat Chow, author of Seeing Ghosts, a memoir about grief, intergenerational loss, reclaiming your family's story... and taxidermy. She talks about The Good, The Bad, and The WTF of seeing figurative and/or literal ghosts.
10/21/202153 minutes, 18 seconds
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136: They Call Us Fully Both

Jeff and Phil welcome Naomi Gleit, VP of Product at Facebook, who wrote a personal essay about her multiracial identity. She talks about growing up ethnically ambiguous, finding her voice on issues of identity and race, and embracing the notion that she is neither half Asian nor half Jewish, but fully both.
10/7/202144 minutes, 30 seconds
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135: They Call Us Doogie Kamealoha, M.D.

Jeff and Phil welcome actress Peyton Elizabeth Lee, star of the Disney+ series Doogie Kamealoha, M.D., series creator and showrunner Kourtney Kang, and executive producer Melvin Mar. They talk about crafting a unique contemporary Hawaiian take on the beloved 90s teen doctor series.
9/30/202154 minutes, 48 seconds
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134: They Call Us Justin Chon

Jeff and Phil welcome Justin Chon, the writer, director and star of the dramatic feature BLUE BAYOU. He talks about putting the spotlight on the plight of undocumented adoptees, setting an Asian American story in the South, and crafting films that create empathy -- and change.
9/17/202131 minutes, 58 seconds
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133: They Call Us Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings

Jeff and Phil welcome their old pals Rebecca Sun of The Hollywood Reporter and Dino-Ray Ramos of Diaspora for a spoiler-filled debrief and discussion of Marvel's SHANG-CHI AND THE LEGEND OF THE TEN RINGS. There are many, many mispronunciations.
9/9/20211 hour, 28 minutes, 35 seconds
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132: They Call Us Dave Callaham

Jeff and Phil welcome Dave Callaham, the screenwriter behind Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings. He talks about the journey of fully embracing his own Asian American identity, getting the call to work with Marvel, and the challenges of adapting the MCU's first Asian American superhero.
9/7/202133 minutes, 48 seconds
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131: They Call Us Simu Liu

Jeff and Phil welcome back Simu Liu, star of Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings. He talks about suiting up as the Marvel Cinematic Universe's first Asian leading man, tweeting the role into existence, and seizing his superhero moment.
9/2/202125 minutes, 41 seconds
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130: They Call Us Maggie Q

Jeff and Phil welcome Maggie Q, who stars in the new action film THE PROTEGE. She talks about slipping back into the catsuit, breaking through in Asia before Hollywood, and proving doubters wrong -- especially when it comes to doing her own stunts.
8/19/202126 minutes, 24 seconds
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129: They Call Us Seoul Sausage

Jeff and Phil welcome Ted Kim, Yong Kim and Han Hwang, aka Seoul Sausage Co., fresh from the finale of Food Network's The Great Food Truck Race All Stars. They talk about returning to reality TV, how gamesmanship took the competition to the next level, and the bowl of egg rice that made a grown man cry.
7/23/202152 minutes, 38 seconds
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128: They Call Us Justin Lin

Jeff and Phil welcome director Justin Lin, chief architect of the Fast & Furious film franchise. He talks about getting back behind the wheel for F9, #JusticeForHan, and The Good, The Bad and The WTF of bringing back a beloved character from the dead.
6/25/202116 minutes, 53 seconds
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127: They Call Us Jon M. Chu

Jeff and Phil welcome Jon M. Chu, who directed the new film adaptation of the hit musical In The Heights. He talks about bringing Lin-Manuel Miranda's vision to the screen, getting the sauce right, and why this is the movie the world needs right now.
6/9/202134 minutes, 57 seconds
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126: They Call Us The Asian Superhero Celebration

Jeff and Phil welcome DC Comics Editor Jessica Chen, the mastermind behind DC Festival of Heroes: The Asian Superhero Celebration, a new anthology spotlighting Asian superheroes and creators. They discuss why superhero representation matters and do some deep-cut nerding out over Batgirl, Samurai, Jim Lee and more...
5/13/202157 minutes, 19 seconds
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125: They Call Us Vincent Chin

Jeff and Phil welcome writer Paula Yoo, author of the young adult book From a Whisper to a Rallying Cry: The Killing of Vincent Chin and the Trial that Galvanized the Asian American Movement. They discuss the legacy of the case, the incredible amount of research that went into this book, and the importance of chronicling this story for younger generations.
4/30/20211 hour, 1 minute, 13 seconds
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124: They Call Us Kelly Marie Tran

Jeff and Phil welcome actress Kelly Marie Tran, who stars as the titular voice in Raya and the Last Dragon. She talks about getting her life-changing role in Star Wars, the surreal significance of being a Disney princess, and the appropriate response to seeing yourself on a billboard.
4/22/202142 minutes, 13 seconds
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123: They Call Us Raya and the Last Dragon

Jeff and Phil welcome screenwriters Adele Lim and Qui Nguyen, and head of story Fawn Veerasunthorn, key creators from the Disney animated feature Raya and the Last Dragon. They discuss swords, swearing, and making a movie during a global pandemic.
4/16/20211 hour, 15 minutes, 52 seconds
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122: They Call Us Rep. Grace Meng

Jeff and Phil welcome Rep. Grace Meng, who represents New York's 6th congressional district in the U.S. House of Representatives. The congresswoman talks about taking leadership amidst tragedy in the Asian American community.
4/7/202136 minutes, 46 seconds
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121: They Call Us Angry Asian Man

Happy Angryversary! Jeff and Phil take a moment to observe the 20th anniversary of Angry Asian Man, the blog that started all this. Phil looks back at his beginnings and reflects on his unique view of Asian America over the last two decades.
2/19/202145 minutes, 11 seconds
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120: They Call Us Asha Rangappa

Jeff and Phil welcome former FBI agent, lawyer, CNN commentator and Yale lecturer Asha Rangappa. She talks about kicking down doors, the rise of right-wing extremism, and how a girl from Virginia became the first Indian American female agent at the Federal Bureau of Investigation.
2/4/20211 hour, 7 minutes, 8 seconds
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119: They Call Us Your Korean Dad

Jeff and Phil welcome Nick Cho, aka "Your Korean Dad" of viral TikTok fame. He talks about his journey from coffee professional to making videos on social media, to becoming an affirming father figure to 2 million followers and counting.
1/30/20211 hour, 1 minute, 29 seconds
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118: They Call Us Bugs Bunny

Jeff and Phil welcome Eric Bauza, the new voice of Bugs Bunny. They discuss issues of diversity and inclusion in voice acting, cracking the code of a good impression, and how a Filipino kid from Canada ended up as the voice of animation's most wascally wabbit.
12/24/20201 hour, 10 minutes, 20 seconds
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117: They Call Us House of Ho

Jeff and Phil welcome producer/friend Jes Vu and Salon culture editor Hanh Nguyen to discuss the new HBO Max reality show HOUSE OF HO. They talk about actual crazy rich Asians, family dysfunction, airing out your dirty laundry, and The Good, The Bad and The WTF of Asian Americans on reality television.
12/18/20201 hour, 2 minutes, 43 seconds
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116: They Call Us Asian in New Zealand

Jeff and Phil welcome New Zealand writer/activist Tze Ming Mok. She talks about her country's complicated racial politics, what it's like to live under a functional government that has had a handle on COVID-19, and what her view of America looks like right now. (It's not good.)
11/27/20201 hour, 11 minutes, 8 seconds
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115: They Call Us Election 2020

Jeff and Phil welcome blogger Jenn Fang and columnist Aisha Sultan to discuss the historic election of Kamala Harris as Vice President of the United States, the troubling truth about Trump supporters and the American electorate, and the amazing gift of Four Seasons Total Landscaping.
11/9/20201 hour, 12 minutes, 29 seconds
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114: They Call Us The Donut King

Jeff and Phil welcome Alice Gu, director of the feature documentary THE DONUT KING, and Mayly Tao, proprietor of DK's Donuts, to discuss the incredible story donuts, refugee hustle, and the one guy responsible for the Cambodian American stronghold on donut shops on the west coast.
11/5/20201 hour, 4 minutes, 46 seconds
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113: They Call Us Chinatown Pretty

Jeff and Phil welcome photographer Andria Lo and writer Valerie Luu, the authors behind CHINATOWN PRETTY, a blog and book capturing the unique street style of Chinatown seniors. They discuss the art of chasing down pretty poh pohs to take their photo.
10/30/20201 hour, 12 minutes, 29 seconds
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112: They Call Us Yellow Rose

Jeff and Phil welcome filmmaker Diane Paragas, writer/director of the new movie Yellow Rose. She talks about the long journey to bring her story to the screen, how she cast the film's incredible star Eva Noblezada, and why country music is so cinematic.
10/15/20201 hour, 3 minutes, 33 seconds
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111: They Call Us We Bare Bears

Jeff and Phil welcome Daniel Chong, creator of the hit animated series We Bare Bears. They discuss the bittersweet end of the show, the very real-world issues in We Bare Bears: The Movie, and how a cartoon about a trio of bear brothers can inspire empathy and understanding in these dark times.
10/9/20201 hour, 22 seconds
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110: They Call Us The Paper Tigers

Jeff and Phil welcome Quoc Bao Tran, writer/director of the new kung fu comedy THE PAPER TIGERS. He talks about the long journey to make this film, why this had to be an Asian American story, and The Good, The Bad and The WTF of getting too old for this s**t.
10/2/20201 hour, 6 minutes, 12 seconds
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109: They Call Us Sujata Day

Jeff and Phil welcome Sujata Day, who wrote, directed, produced and starred in the new film DEFINITION PLEASE. She talks about the failed spelling bee word that haunts her, taking the plunge (and calling all her friends) to make her first feature, and revealing a certain co-star's... assets.
9/25/20201 hour, 19 minutes, 16 seconds
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108: They Call Us Vaccine Trials

Jeff and Phil welcome design/technology writer Gregory Han, who has been participating in a clinical trial for a COVID-19 vaccine. They discuss what it will take to end the virus, what the world might look like on the other side, and if karaoke will survive coronavirus.
9/19/20201 hour, 5 minutes, 53 seconds
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107: They Call Us Mulan

In their longest episode ever, Jeff and Phil welcome Rebecca Sun and Frankie Huang to talk about Disney's live action adaptation of Mulan. They discuss The Good, The Bad, and The WTF of the film, as well as how they'd adapt the tale differently.
9/11/20202 hours, 2 minutes, 25 seconds
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106: They Call Us USPS

Jeff and Phil welcome Kevin Gan Yuen, an employee of the United States Postal Service. He talks about getting into the "family business," reveals the weirdest things people send via mail, and gives us The Good, The Bad and The WTF of working for USPS.
9/5/202055 minutes, 43 seconds
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105: They Call Us The Vice Presidential Nominee

Jeff and Phil welcome Anna John and Arun Venugopal to discuss the historic nomination of Kamala Harris as Joe Biden's running mate -- the first woman of color on a major party ticket. They talk about multiracial identity, representation, and The Good, The Bad and The WTF of an Indian American Vice President.
8/20/20201 hour, 15 minutes, 32 seconds
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104: They Call Us Lucky Grandma

Resurrected and salvaged from audio limbo! Jeff and Phil welcome the legendary Tsai Chin, star of the feature film LUCKY GRANDMA, along with writer/director Sasie Sealy and co-writer Angela Cheng. They discuss why a 85-year-old Chinese grandma was the perfect star for a Chinatown gangster caper.
7/30/202034 minutes, 38 seconds
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103: They Call Us Becoming Less Racist

In this special crossover episode, Jeff and Phil join forces with "Becoming Less Racist: Lighting the Path to Anti-Racism" with Simran Jeet Singh. They talk about anti-Asian racism in the time of COVID, the model minority myth, and The Good, The Bad and The WTF of becoming less racist. Becoming Less Racist: Lighting the Path to Anti-Racism https://religionnews.com/becoming-less-racist/ Simran Jeet Singh Twitter: @SikhProf Jeff Yang Twitter: @originalspin Phil Yu Twitter: @angryasianman angryasianman.com They Call Us Bruce Twitter: @TheyCallUsBruce
7/23/202058 minutes, 15 seconds
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102: They Call Us The Baby-Sitters Club

Jeff and Phil facilitate a deep appreciation of an Asian American icon: Claudia Kishi of THE BABY-SITTERS CLUB. They welcome Naia Cucukov, Executive Producer of the new Netflix series; Jade Chang, writer of "Claudia and Mean Janine"; and Sue Ding, director of the documentary short THE CLAUDIA KISHI CLUB.
7/16/20201 hour, 13 minutes, 31 seconds
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101: They Call Us Adoptees

Jeff and Phil welcome Asian American adoptees Dan Matthews and Grace Newton to share their stories, discuss recent adoption-related controversies in the news, and complicate the narrative around issues of international and transracial adoption.
7/4/20201 hour, 15 minutes, 53 seconds
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100b: They Call Us Daniel Wu and W. Kamau Bell

In part two of this special double-sized 100th episode, Jeff and Phil welcome actor Daniel Wu and comedian W. Kamau Bell to help celebrate their podcast milestone and nerd out over their shared love of -- who else -- Bruce Lee.
6/8/20201 hour, 14 minutes, 2 seconds
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100a: They Call Us Bao Nguyen

Episode 100! Jeff and Phil welcome filmmaker Bao Nguyen, director of the ESPN 30 for 30 documentary BE WATER, which explores -- from a decidedly Asian American perspective -- the groundbreaking journey of martial arts icon Bruce Lee.
6/5/20201 hour, 14 minutes, 19 seconds
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Episode 99: They Call Us Lynn Chen

Jeff and Phil welcome Lynn Chen, who wrote, directed, produced and stars in the movie I WILL MAKE YOU MINE. She talks about getting the "band" back together, the song that almost busted her budget, and completing the most low-budget movie trilogy ever.
5/21/20201 hour, 2 minutes, 17 seconds
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Episode 98: They Call Us Renee Tajima-Pena

Jeff and Phil welcome filmmaker Renee Tajima-Pena, producer of the epic new PBS documentary series ASIAN AMERICANS. She talks about the stories no one tells you, how history repeats itself, and the challenges of condensing 150 years of history into a five-hour public television series.
5/11/20201 hour, 7 minutes, 15 seconds
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Episode 97: They Call Us Andrew Ahn

Jeff and Phil welcome Andrew Ahn, director of the feature drama DRIVEWAYS, starring Hong Chau. He talks about making a movie to come out to his parents, getting accepted to the "Harvard" of film festivals, and working with the late Brian Dennehy on one of his last roles.
5/7/20201 hour, 10 minutes, 11 seconds
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Episode 96: They Call Us Alice Wu

Jeff and Phil welcome Alice Wu, writer/director of the new Netflix feature THE HALF OF IT. They discuss her long-awaited follow-up to SAVING FACE, how her coming-of-age film speaks to Trump's America, and the $1000 check that scared her out of writer's block.
5/1/20201 hour, 33 minutes, 46 seconds
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Episode 95: They Call Us COVID-19 Survivor

Jeff and Phil welcome Clement Chow, who contracted the coronavirus and was hospitalized with COVID-19. Fresh from quarantine, he shares about his experience in the ICU, making it to the other side, and The Good, The Bad and The WTF of surviving the disease.
4/16/202050 minutes, 51 seconds
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Episode 94: They Call Us Alan Yang

Jeff and Phil welcome Alan Yang, writer/director of the Netflix film TIGERTAIL. They discuss why he wanted to make this multigenerational family saga, the golden age of Tzi Ma as Asian America's dad, and the Good, Bad and WTF of telling immigrant stories.
4/9/202046 minutes, 30 seconds
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Episode 93: They Call Us Yul Kwon

Jeff and Phil welcome Yul Kwon, winner of Survivor: Cook Islands, who is back competing on the show's current season, Survivor: Winners at War. They discuss the "race war," Yul's reasons for returning to reality television, and if/how they'd all survive in a zombie apocalypse.
4/3/20201 hour, 28 minutes, 14 seconds
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Episode 92: They Call Us Pandemic Parents

Jeff and Phil welcome Stephen Dypiangco, co-founder of Dadventures, and Theresa Kim Yang, educator and literary coach. They discuss parenting through the COVID-19 pandemic and trying to find normalcy while everything is definitely not normal.
3/26/20201 hour, 6 minutes, 56 seconds
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Episode 91: They Call Us Social Distancing

Wash your hands. Stay home. Don't be racist. With this global pandemic underway, Jeff and Phil welcome Dr. Esther Choo to offer her perspective on the COVID-19 health crisis. They also break down The Good, The Bad, and The WTF of social distancing.
3/19/20201 hour, 5 minutes, 57 seconds
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Episode 90: They Call Us Coronavirus

Jeff and Phil welcome blogger and scientist Jenn Fang, founder of Reappropriate.co. They talk about COVID-19, aka the Coronavirus, and the social, cultural and public health implications of the current global outbreak. How's everybody feeling? Cough cough.
3/6/202053 minutes, 8 seconds
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Episode 89: They Call Us That Movie From South Korea

Jeff and Phil check in to catch up and discuss The Good, The Bad and The WTF of recent weeks, including Parasite's historic night at the Oscars, the bittersweet end of Fresh Off The Boat, and Trump's truly terrible take on movies.
2/26/202043 minutes, 30 seconds
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Episode 88: They Call Us Gene Luen Yang

Jeff and Phil welcome back their good friend, acclaimed graphic novelist Gene Luen Yang. He talks about his latest books DRAGON HOOPS, which follows the true story of a high school basketball team's championship season, and SUPERMAN SMASHES THE KLAN, which pits the Man of Steel against hooded racists.
2/7/20201 hour, 18 minutes, 19 seconds
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Episode 87: They Call Us Oscar Nominations

Happy New Year! Jeff and Phil get back into it, just in time to debrief this year's Academy Award nominations. They talk about all the love for PARASITE, the lack of love for THE FAREWELL, and why the hell Scarlett Johansson got nominated twice.
1/15/20201 hour, 14 minutes, 1 second
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Episode 86: They Call Us Jean Yoon & Andrea Bang

Jeff and Phil welcome friends from the north: Jean Yoon and Andrea Bang, stars of the hit Canadian sitcom KIM'S CONVENIENCE. They talk about their newfound recognition as TV stars, this Moment that Korea is having, and The Good, The Bad and WTF of family.
1/7/20201 hour, 12 minutes, 22 seconds
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Episode 85: They Call Us Destin Daniel Cretton

Jeff and Phil talk to director Destin Daniel Cretton about his new film JUST MERCY, which tells the true story of death row defense attorney Bryan Stevenson. He also drops a few hints about an upcoming little Marvel movie called SHANG-CHI.
12/24/201929 minutes, 54 seconds
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Episode 84: They Call Us Parasite

Jeff and Phil welcome TV writer Liz Alper to talk about the plight of assistants in the entertainment industry and organizing #PayUpHollywood. And then they geek out about Bong Joon Ho's PARASITE.
12/6/20191 hour, 41 minutes, 21 seconds
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Episode 83: They Call Us Thankful

Recorded live at the Edison Theatre in Long Beach! For this special Thanksgiving-themed episode, Jeff and Phil welcome friends Tess Paras, Thuc Doan Nguyen and Shirley Li to talk politics, culture and the year in Asian America.
11/25/20191 hour, 19 minutes, 19 seconds
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Episode 82: They Call Us The Asian American Film Canon

Jeff and Phil welcome Brian Hu, artistic director of the San Diego Asian Film Festival, to talk about the challenges and considerations of curating the Los Angeles Times' list of the 20 best Asian American films of the last 20 years. Film geekery ensues.
11/14/20191 hour, 2 minutes, 31 seconds
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Episode 81: They Call Us Love Boat

We're talking about LOVE BOAT! Jeff and Phil discuss the infamous Taiwanese culture/language study tour with Valerie Soe, director of the documentary LOVE BOAT: TAIWAN, and Abigail Hing Wen, author of the forthcoming young adult novel LOVEBOAT, TAIPEI.
10/31/201956 minutes, 54 seconds
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Episode 80: They Call Us Maulik Pancholy

Jeff and Phil welcome actor, advocate and author Maulik Pancholy, who talks about THE BEST AT IT, his new novel for young readers. They discuss 30 Rock, camel nuggets, Snake Americans, being true to yourself, and the Good, Bad and WTF of being The Best.
10/25/20191 hour, 8 minutes, 33 seconds
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Episode 79: They Call Us Sophia Chang

Jeff and Phil welcome Sophia Chang, who talks about her many identities: former manager of some of hip hop and R&B's greatest acts, kung fu practitioner, daughter of Korean immigrants, and now, author of the new audio memoir The Baddest Bitch in the Room.
10/17/20191 hour, 15 minutes, 37 seconds
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Episode 78: They Call Us Manny Jacinto

Jeff and Phil welcome actor Manny Jacinto, best known for playing Jason Mendoza on The Good Place. They talk about his stereotype-busting breakthrough role, the work ethic of Tom Cruise, and what it's like to play the dumbest character on television.
10/10/20191 hour, 8 minutes, 25 seconds
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Episode 77: They Call Us Helen Zia

Recorded live at Cal Poly Pomona! Jeff and Phil welcome author/activist Helen Zia. They discuss the tumultuous forces of history and migration that inform her latest book, Last Boat Out of Shanghai: The Epic Story of the Chinese Who Fled Mao's Revolution.
10/3/201959 minutes, 10 seconds
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Episode 76: They Call Us Abominable

Jeff and Phil talk to Peilin Chou, Chief Creative Officer of Pearl Studios and producer of ABOMINABLE, currently the number one movie at the box office. They talk about the unique challenges of creating a Chinese animated feature with global appeal.
9/30/201937 minutes
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Episode 75: We Call Us Yang

Jeff and Phil check in and debrief The Good, The Bad and The WTF of This Week in Yang, including a certain clan competing on Family Feud, recent casting developments on Saturday Night Live, and the rising visibility of a presidential candidate.
9/16/20191 hour, 5 minutes, 10 seconds
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Episode 74: They Call Us Constance Wu

Jeff and Phil welcome Constance Wu. She talks about skyrocketing to stardom on Fresh Off the Boat, the steep learning curve of being in the spotlight, the loneliness of her new film Hustlers, and yes, those tweets.
9/3/20191 hour, 16 minutes, 53 seconds
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Episode 73: They Call Us The Terror

Jeff and Phil welcome Alex Woo, co-creator and showrunner of AMC's The Terror: Infamy. They discuss the responsibility and challenges of telling the story of Japanese American incarceration, and The Good, The Bad and WTF of scary Asian stories.
8/12/20191 hour, 12 minutes, 32 seconds
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Episode 72: They Call Us Lulu Wang

Jeff and Phil talk to Lulu Wang, writer/director of the acclaimed indie film The Farewell, now in theaters everywhere. She talks about telling a story "based on an actual lie" and The Good, The Bad and The WTF of making this deeply personal film.
8/4/201941 minutes, 17 seconds
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Episode 71: We Call Us Simu Liu's Shang-Chi Audition

Jeff and Phil debrief the big announcement out of Comic-Con: Simu Liu is Shang-Chi, Marvel's Master of Kung Fu! They also pour one out for the recent death of the live-action Akira remake (again).
7/24/201956 minutes
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Episode 70: We Call Us Tzi Ma's Lost Daughters

Jeff and Phil discuss The Good, The Bad and The WTF of what's going on in Asian America, including The Farewell, Scarlett Johansson's dumbshit comments, and the perpetual gut punch of "go back to where you came from."
7/21/201957 minutes, 13 seconds
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Episode 69: They Call Us Kulap Vilaysack

Jeff and Phil welcome actress/comedian/writer Kulap Vilaysack to talk about her deeply personal feature documentary ORIGIN STORY. They discuss unearthing family secrets, making art from trauma, and The Good, The Bad and The WTF of airing out your dirty laundry.
7/3/20191 hour, 15 minutes, 3 seconds
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Episode 68: They Call Us Soleil Ho

Recorded live at NCORE in Portland, Jeff and Phil welcome back Soleil Ho, restaurant critic for the San Francisco Chronicle. They talk race, culture, politics, identity and, of course, food.
6/7/20191 hour, 1 minute, 22 seconds
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Episode 67: They Call Us Always Be My Maybe

Jeff and Phil offer their honest takes on the new Netflix romantic comedy ALWAYS BE MY MAYBE, starring Randall Park and Ali Wong. Spoiler warnings all around. Best believe we punched Keanu Reeves. 
6/3/201958 minutes, 44 seconds
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Episode 66: They Call Us Randall Park & Michael Golamco

Jeff and Phil welcome actor Randall Park and writer Michael Golamco to talk about ALWAYS BE MY MAYBE, their new Netflix romantic comedy with Ali Wong. They discuss The Good, The Bad and The WTF of making an awesome Asian American movie with your friends.
5/31/20191 hour, 20 minutes, 33 seconds
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Episode 65: They Call Us Vibrant Asians

Jeff and Phil talk authenticity and appropriation with journalist Angela Hui, the only East Asian person in attendance at a recent preview event for Gordon Ramsay's "vibrant Asian eating house" Lucky Cat. Her take: "It was an actual kitchen nightmare."
5/22/201957 minutes, 10 seconds
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Episode 64: They Call Us Warrior

Jeff and Phil offer their impressions, praises and critiques of Cinemax's WARRIOR, the new western/eastern action drama inspired by the writings of Bruce Lee. (Spoiler alert: they really like it.)
4/12/201954 minutes, 44 seconds
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Episode 63: They Call Us Shannon Lee

Jeff and Phil welcome Shannon Lee, CEO of Bruce Lee Family Companies and the daughter of our show's namesake, Bruce Lee. She talks about her father's incredible legacy and the original vision that became the basis for the Cinemax action series WARRIOR.
4/5/20191 hour, 13 minutes, 56 seconds
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Episode 62: They Call Us MasterChef (Live From SXSW)

Recorded live at SXSW! In partnership with DoorDash, Jeff and Phil welcome MasterChef Season 9 contestants Ashley Mincey and Farhan Momin to chat about cooking, family, culture, authenticity and "ethnic food."
3/22/201955 minutes, 54 seconds
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Episode 61: They Call Us Austin Asians (Live From SXSW)

Recorded live at SXSW! In partnership with the Austin Asian American Film Festival, Jeff and Phil host an Asian American trivia quiz show, with special guests Simu Liu, Paul Sun-Hyung Lee, Jonny Sun, Nancy Wang Yuen, Chloe Dao and PJ Raval.
3/21/201957 minutes, 37 seconds
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Episode 60: They Call Us Canadians

Jeff and Phil welcome Canadian actors Paul Sun-Hyung Lee (Kim's Convenience) and Samantha Wan (Second Jen). They discuss the unique flavor and challenges of telling stories north of the border, and The Good, The Bad and The WTF of being Asian Canadian.
3/8/20191 hour, 19 minutes, 41 seconds
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Episode 59: They Call Us Fairy Princess Diaries

Jeff and Phil welcome performer and blogger Erin Quill, the fierce, hilarious voice behind Fairy Princess Diaries. They discuss objectionable details about BBC's upcoming Asian-themed children's series, Living With the Lams.
2/26/20191 hour, 31 minutes, 55 seconds
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Episode 58: We Call Us Lunar New Year

Jeff and Phil ring in the Lunar New Year by welcoming a new member to the They Call Us Bruce team, Nick Song. Testing out a new format, they discuss The Good, The Bad and WTF of the week in Asian America.
2/16/201941 minutes, 39 seconds
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Episode 57: They Call Us Tze Chun

Jeff and Phil welcome writer/filmmaker Tze Chun, who talks about his journey from directing independent film to writing for network television, to his latest venture, co-creating the new comic book publisher TKO Studios.
2/8/20191 hour, 19 minutes, 27 seconds
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Episode 56: They Call Us 2018

Jeff and Phil welcome Traci Lee of NBC Asian America to discuss the "13 moments in Asian America that moved us in 2018" and take one last look back at The Good, The Bad and The WTF of the year that was.
1/3/20191 hour, 3 minutes, 21 seconds
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Episode 55: They Call Us Cartoon Creators

Recorded live at Asian American Culture Con @ Pacific Media Expo! Jeff and Phil welcome animation storytellers Daniel Chong (We Bare Bears), Victor Cook (Stretch Armstrong), Dan Santat (The Replacements) and Fawn Veerasunthorn (Ralph Breaks the Internet).
11/28/20181 hour, 15 minutes, 35 seconds
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Episode 54: They Call Us Primetime Asians

Recorded live at Asian American Culture Con @ Pacific Media Expo! Jeff and Phil welcome actors Keiko Agena (The First), Jake Choi (Single Parents) and Ryan Potter (Titans) to talk about The Good, The Bad and the WTF of being Asians on TV.
11/26/201855 minutes, 43 seconds
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Episode 53: They Call Us Not Quite Not White

Recorded live at the Harvard Asian American Alumni Alliance Summit, Jeff -- flying solo without Phil -- talks to Sharmila Sen, author of the book Not Quite Not White: Losing and Finding Race in America.
11/8/201859 minutes, 48 seconds
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Episode 52: They Call Us Vietgone

Jeff and Phil welcome playwright Qui Nguyen, who talks about the true life origins of his acclaimed play VIETGONE, the small town video store pop culture that defined him, and the super secret material he's been working on for Marvel.
10/24/20181 hour, 40 minutes, 20 seconds
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Episode 51: They Call Us All The Asians on TV

Jeff and Phil discuss "All The Asians on TV." With the new television season underway, here's a rundown of actors of Asian descent who are series regulars on new scripted prime time network, cable and streaming shows premiering this fall.
10/5/201834 minutes, 44 seconds
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Episode 50: They Call Us 50

Jeff and Phil take a moment to acknowledge and reflect on making it to 50 episodes of They Call Us Bruce. They look back at the Good, the Bad and the WTF of the first fifty shows, consider the future, and make A VERY SPECIAL ANNOUNCEMENT.
10/3/201854 minutes, 10 seconds
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Episode 49: They Call Us Jose Antonio Vargas

Jeff and Phil welcome journalist, activist and author Jose Antonio Vargas, "the most famous undocumented immigrant in America." They talk about his new book DEAR AMERICA, intersectional identity, and the Good, Bad and WTF of being "American."
9/19/20181 hour, 5 minutes, 19 seconds
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Episode 48: They Call Us Staycation

Jeff and Phil welcome filmmaker Tanuj Chopra and actress Grace Su to talk about their feature STAYCATION ahead of the film's world premiere at the Los Angeles Film Festival. They discuss, among other things, the Good, Bad and WTF of being "hella indie."
9/13/20181 hour, 13 minutes, 19 seconds
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Episode 47: They Call Us John Cho

Recorded live at Sony studios, Jeff and Phil welcome John Cho, star of the new thriller Searching. They discuss the film's inventive storytelling conceit, his unique leading man status, and the Good, Bad and WTF of being John Cho.
8/25/201848 minutes, 26 seconds
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Episode 46: They Call Us Crazy About Crazy Rich Asians

In this super-sized episode, Jeff and Phil welcome Jen Yamato of the Los Angeles Times and (first repeat guest) Rebecca Sun of The Hollywood Reporter to dish and debrief their reactions to the biggest movie of the year, Crazy Rich Asians.
8/22/20181 hour, 48 minutes, 52 seconds
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Episode 45: They Call Us Ronny Chieng

Jeff and Phil welcome "international" comedian Ronny Chieng, who talks about going from law school to standup, getting a correspondent gig on The Daily Show, and being back in his home country for a major pop culture moment: Crazy Rich Asians.
8/13/20181 hour, 6 minutes, 13 seconds
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Episode 44: They Call Us Crazy Rich Asians

Recorded at C3: Conference for Creative Content at the Los Angeles Asian Pacific Film Festival, Jeff and Phil moderate a panel discussion with director Jon M. Chu, screenwriter Adele Lim, and cast members Nico Santos and Chris Pang of CRAZY RICH ASIANS.
8/6/201856 minutes, 15 seconds
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Episode 43: They Call Us Will Choi

Jeff and Phil welcome Will Choi, the multi-hyphenate mastermind behind the hit Asian American variety show ASIAN AF. They discuss improv, the art of trolling Scarlett Johansson, and the Good, Bad and WTF of the Asian American hustle.
6/21/20181 hour, 19 minutes, 23 seconds
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Episode 42: They Call Us John Chiang

Jeff and Phil welcome California State Treasurer and gubernatorial candidate John Chiang. He talks about being the "no drama" candidate, how family tragedy informed his passion for service, and the Good, Bad and WTF of running for Governor of California.
5/31/201826 minutes, 21 seconds
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Episode 41: They Call Us Jane Kim

Jeff and Phil welcome San Francisco Supervisor Jane Kim to talk about her bid for mayor. They discuss the hotly contested sprint to election day, the issues that divide and unite us, and the Good, Bad and WTF of running for Mayor of San Francisco.
5/31/201836 minutes, 1 second
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Episode 40: They Call Us David Henry Hwang

Jeff and Phil welcome celebrated playwright David Henry Hwang to talk about his form-busting new "play with a musical" SOFT POWER. They discuss political fantasies and realities, Hillary Clinton as a romantic lead, and that time DHH got stabbed.
5/30/20181 hour, 8 minutes, 36 seconds
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Episode 39: They Call Us The Korean

Jeff and Phil welcome T.K., aka "The Korean," the blogger behind Ask a Korean! They discuss recent historic developments on the Korean peninsula, the long road that got us here, and the possibility of a reunified Korea.
5/3/20181 hour, 8 minutes, 1 second
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Episode 38: They Call Us Pulitzer

Jeff and Phil welcome journalism student Mariel Padilla, who, at 23 years old, just won a Pulitzer Prize for The Cincinnati Enquirer's coverage documenting Cincinnati's heroin epidemic.
4/25/20181 hour, 2 minutes, 19 seconds
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Episode 37: They Call Us Cambodian Rock Band

Jeff and Phil welcome to playwright Lauren Yee and performer Jane Lui, fresh off the world premiere run of their groundbreaking play Cambodian Rock Band, which joins the story of Cambodia's darkest hour with the incredible sounds of psychedelic surf rock.
4/5/20181 hour, 11 minutes, 29 seconds
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Episode 36: They Call Us #OscarsSoWhite

Jeff and Phil welcome April Reign, creator of the viral hashtag #OscarsSoWhite. Recorded on the eve of the 90th Academy Awards, they discuss Black Panther, the tired old excuses of the Hollywood establishment, and where the movement is headed.
3/5/20181 hour, 20 minutes, 56 seconds
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Episode 35: They Call Us PyeongChang

Jeff and Phil welcome Hannah Yu - Phil's sister - fresh off the plane from South Korea, where she attended the Winter Games in PyeongChang. From triple axels to twizzles to mctwists, they discuss the Olympic triumphs and trials of Team Asian America.
2/21/201858 minutes, 31 seconds
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Episode 34: They Call Us Valentine's Day

Jeff and Phil welcome Tanzila 'Taz' Ahmed, activist, storyteller, and co-host of the #GoodMuslimBadlimPodcast. They talk about romantic comedies, Muslim Valentine's Day Cards, and that time Taz brought a fake date to an ex's wedding.
2/14/20181 hour, 25 minutes, 51 seconds
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Episode 33: They Call Us Third Waiter From The Left

Recorded live at the David Henry Hwang Theater, Jeff and Phil join playwright Alice Tuan and actress Amy Hill for a panel discussion, "Asian American Representation: The Politics of Casting," presented by Center Theatre Group and East West Players.
2/6/20181 hour, 21 minutes, 41 seconds
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Episode 32: They Call Us Tiffany Chin

Jeff and Phil welcome champion figure skater and coach Tiffany Chin, who talks about her journey to becoming "The First Great Asian American Hope" of skating, the state of the sport, and why so many Asian Americans are now excelling on the ice.
1/17/20181 hour, 26 minutes, 7 seconds
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Episode 31: They Call Us The Last Jedi

Jeff and Phil discuss the pop culture legacy of Star Wars, offer some non-spoilery thoughts on The Last Jedi and their favorite new character played by Kelly Marie Tran, and then throw down a super spoilery edition of The Good, The Bad and The WTF.
12/23/20171 hour, 7 minutes, 43 seconds
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Episode 30: They Call Us Claudia Kishi

Jeff and Phil welcome CB Lee, author of the YA superhero novel Not Your Sidekick. They discuss Claudia Kishi of the Babysitters Club, the questionable curious true identity of Akira Yoshida, and the complexities of authorship and authenticity.
12/6/20171 hour, 25 minutes, 25 seconds
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Episode 29: They Call Us Thanksgiving

Recorded on the eve of Thanksgiving from three different parts of the continent, Jeff and Phil welcome chef and food writer Soleil Ho, co-host of the podcast Racist Sandwich. They discuss food and thanks, as well as the Good, Bad and WTF of Thanksgiving.
11/26/20171 hour, 20 minutes, 41 seconds
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Episode 28: They Call Us Unicorns

Live from the San Diego Asian Film Festival! Jeff and Phil welcome fellow Potluck podcasters Marvin Yueh and Ada Tseng to pitch our hypothetical "unicorn" Asian American movie projects to studio execs Fritz Friedman and Paula Madison.
11/17/20171 hour, 5 minutes, 34 seconds
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Episode 27: They Call Us Nerds of Color

Jeff and Phil welcome friend and fellow geek Keith Chow, founder of the Nerds of Color empire. They talk about the rise of nerd culture, bad adaptations, and the changing face of fandom.
11/9/20171 hour, 11 minutes, 31 seconds
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Episode 26: They Call Us Halloween Costumes

Happy Halloween! Jeff and Phil welcome cosplayer/superfan Laura Sirikul and Boom Studios' Arune Singh. They discuss racist costumes, seeing yourself represented in pop culture, and the Good, the Bad and the WTF of Halloween costumes.
10/29/20171 hour, 19 minutes, 58 seconds
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Episode 25: They Call Us Randall Park

Jeff and Phil welcome their good friend, actor Randall Park, aka "Asian Jim." He reflects on the fourth(!) season of Fresh Off The Boat, shares almost nothing about Ant-Man & The Wasp, and considers the Good, the Bad and the WTF of being "Asian Famous."
10/13/20171 hour, 14 minutes, 12 seconds
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Episode 24: They Call Us Jeremy Lin's Hair

Jeff and Phil discuss Jeremy Lin's hair. Yes, his hair. Specifically, the recent dustup over our favorite Asian American point guard's decision to sport dreadlocks, and where it's situated in the larger conversation about cultural appropriation.
10/10/201741 minutes, 22 seconds
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Episode 23: They Call Us Kristina Wong

Jeff and Phil welcome longtime pal, performance artist and culture jammer Kristina Wong. They talk about trolling dudes with yellow fever, How Not to Pick Up Asian Chicks, and the Good, the Bad and WTF of Dating While Asian.
9/29/20171 hour, 20 minutes, 36 seconds
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Episode 22: They Call Us #ExpressiveAsians

Jeff and Phil talk TV and #ExpressiveAsians with Nancy Wang Yuen, author of the book Reel Inequality: Hollywood Actors and Racism, and co-author of "Tokens on the Small Screen," a comprehensive new report on AAPI representation on television.
9/15/20171 hour, 7 minutes, 46 seconds
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Episode 21: They Call Us Dreamers ** NEW VERSION**

Jeff and Phil welcome Esther Yu-Hsi Lee, immigration reporter for ThinkProgress and a Dreamer herself, to discuss the personal and community impact of immigration policy on the heels of Trump's decision to end DACA (Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals).
9/8/20171 hour, 8 minutes, 49 seconds
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Episode 20: They Still Call Us Bruce

Having now ni hao'd their way into your hearts, Jeff and Phil recap, and revisit the first 20 episodes of They Call Us Bruce. Then they welcome friend and fellow podcaster Minji Chang (Kollabcast, First of All), for a round of The Good, The Bad and The WTF.
8/27/20171 hour, 7 minutes, 1 second
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Episode 19: They Call Us Philip Ng

Jeff and Phil welcome actor Philip Ng, who plays Bruce Lee in Birth of the Dragon. He talks about the premature controversy around the film, his approach to playing an icon, and some of the big differences between Hong Kong and Hollywood action.
8/23/201749 minutes, 52 seconds
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Episode 18: They Call Us Birth of the Dragon

Jeff and Phil got an early look at Birth of the Dragon, the upcoming action flick inspired by Bruce Lee's most famous fight. They offer their takes on Bruceploitation, fan fiction, Some White Dude, and why this movie is absolutely not a biopic.
8/2/201747 minutes, 31 seconds
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Episode 17: They Call Us Brian Yang and Evan Jackson Leong

Jeff and Phil welcome actor/producer Brian Yang and director Evan Jackson Leong, who talk about the hustle of independent filmmaking, finding themselves in the middle of Linsanity and making their latest project, the crime drama 'Snakehead.'
7/28/20171 hour, 24 minutes, 40 seconds
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Episode 16: They Call Us George Takei

Recorded live in Little Tokyo as part of Asian American ComiCon, Jeff and Phil talk to legendary actor, activist and icon George Takei, who discusses art, politics and love, and plays along with a very special edition of The Good, The Bad and The "OH MY."
7/19/201747 minutes, 14 seconds
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Episode 15: They Call Us Chef Shirley Chung

Recorded live at Opodz in Little Tokyo, Jeff and Phil welcome former Top Chef contestant Shirley Chung, who talks about her lifelong love of food, cooking with her heart and soul on TV's top culinary competition, and finally getting approval from her mom.
7/12/201758 minutes, 49 seconds
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Episode 14: They Call Us #UglyDelicious

Jeff and Phil welcome comedian/writer Jenny Yang and Eater NY News Editor Serena Dai to discuss food, culture and things that make you say "Yo, I don't know about that" -- including a white chef who serves up sushi with a fake Japanese accent.
7/6/20171 hour, 12 minutes, 54 seconds
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Episode 13: They Call Us The Slants

Jeff and Phil welcome Simon Tam, front man for The Slants. He talks about the eight-year fight to trademark their band name, the landmark Supreme Court ruling in their favor, and the important right for Asian Americans to call ourselves whatever we want.
6/24/20171 hour, 19 minutes, 33 seconds
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Episode 12: They Call Us Asian American

Jeff and Phil celebrate Heritage Month, ahem, eleven months early, discussing the complexities of Asian American identity and community with Professors Karthick Ramakrishnan and Jennifer Lee of the National Asian American Survey.
6/17/20171 hour, 1 minute, 54 seconds
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Episode 11: They Call Us Rep. Ted Lieu

Jeff and Phil welcome Rep. Ted Lieu, who represents California's 33rd district in the U.S. House of Representatives. He talks about getting into politics, being a leader in the resistance, and taking down Trump one tweet at a time.
6/2/201744 minutes, 4 seconds
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Episode 10: They Call Us Hudson Yang, Forrest Wheeler and Ian Chen

Recorded with a live studio audience at the offices of TBWA/Chiat/Day, Jeff and Phil welcome young actors Hudson Yang, Forrest Wheeler and Ian Chen, who play brothers Eddie, Emery and Evan on ABC's Fresh Off The Boat. Yeah, we called in that favor.
5/27/201743 minutes, 38 seconds
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Episode 9: They Call Us Kelvin Yu

Jeff and Phil welcome actor/writer Kelvin Yu, who plays Brian on Netflix's Master of None. He talks about being inspired by Ben Vereen, escaping the trap of the TV legal drama, and his newfound status as a hottie on a "top tier" streaming series.
5/20/20171 hour, 27 minutes, 22 seconds
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Episode 8: They Call Us Gene Luen Yang and Greg Pak

Jeff and Phil geek out with acclaimed comic book creators Gene Luen Yang and Greg Pak, who talk about diversity in comics, new takes on iconic characters, and who would win in a fight: Asian Hulk or Asian Superman?
5/12/20171 hour, 32 minutes, 16 seconds
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Episode 7: They Call Us Justin Chon and Grace Lee

"Live" from the LAAPFF podcast lounge! Jeff and Phil welcome filmmakers Justin Chon (GOOK) and Grace Lee (K-TOWN '92) to discuss their work and reflect on the 25th anniversary of the 1992 Los Angeles Riots.
5/3/201752 minutes, 37 seconds
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Episode 6: They Call Us Asian American Cinema

Jeff and Phil discuss the state of Asian American independent cinema, the significance of movies like Better Luck Tomorrow, and why it's still so hard for Asian American films to break through.
4/27/20171 hour, 13 minutes, 48 seconds
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Episode 5: They Ask Us Qs

Jeff and Phil present the inaugural edition of "They Ask Us Qs," in which they answer listener-submitted questions with the assistance of special guests Amy Anderson and Shii Ann Huang.
4/20/201757 minutes, 30 seconds
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Episode 4: They Call Us Andi Mack

Jeff and Phil welcome Lilan Bowden, who stars as Bex in the new Disney Channel series Andi Mack. She reveals all the secrets.
4/12/20171 hour, 22 minutes, 19 seconds
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Episode 3: They Call Us Motoko Kusanagi

Jeff and Phil welcome The Hollywood Reporter's Rebecca Sun and writer Sarah Kuhn to talk about the next-level whitewashing in the live-action adaptation of Ghost in the Shell.
4/5/20171 hour, 25 minutes, 13 seconds
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Episode 2: They Call Us Lewis Tan

Jeff and Phil welcome Iron Fist actor/martial artist Lewis Tan to discuss kung fu flicks and drink Hello Kitty wine.
3/29/20171 hour, 15 minutes, 57 seconds
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Episode 1: They Call Us Iron Fist

Jeff and Phil have some thoughts on Marvel's latest Netflix series Iron Fist.
3/22/201745 minutes, 18 seconds
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Episode 0: They Call Us Bruce?

Hosts Jeff Yang and Phil Yu introduce They Call Us Bruce, an unfiltered conversation about what's happening in Asian America.
3/21/201722 minutes, 37 seconds