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The First Degree

English, Old Time Radio, 1 season, 481 episodes, 2 days, 21 hours, 35 minutes
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Join Ladygang's Jac Vanek, true crime TV producer Alexis Linkletter, and investigative journalist Billy Jensen on a chilling ride into the darkest corners of your worst nightmares. We're talking murder, serial killers, cults, conspiracy theories and beyond, all told through the eyes of a guest who is one degree of separation from the story itself. From Ted Bundy and Jeffrey Dahmer to an unknown heinous murder in your very own hometown, The First Degree will bring a new and refreshing perspective to the true crime phenomenon. And who knows... you may be our next guest.
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BONUS: KILLING TIME: MACAULAY MACAULAY CULKIN CULKIN

It’s Killing Time! This week, the girls and the ginger are discussing new developments with the Long Island Serial Killer case, followed by some general tangents as of course is tradition! Then it’s on to Today I Learned! On deck today: Macaulay Culkin, Sierra Mist, and Costco hot dogs (again!) Here we go! 🎟 Catch up to FOUR bonus episodes per month plus full video episodes over on Patreon:patreon.com/thefirstdegree❤️ The Heavy Metal Project: theheavymetalproject.com📸 Instagram: instagram.com/thefirstdegree🕺 TikTok: tiktok.com/@thefirstdegreee👤 Facebook: facebook.com/thefirstdegree⚖️ On the Stand: (818) 446-6889💩 Worst Thing You’ve Ever Done: (818) 446-6889🤝 Advice: [email protected]
6/20/202443 minutes, 39 seconds
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Episode 304: Leon Laureles

In the late night hours of May 9, 1996, a 30-year-old man leaves his home for his midnight shift in Brownwood, Texas. But he never makes it inside. Just after midnight, his car is found burning near a gun range, and his body is discovered nearby with a gunshot wound to the back of his head. Despite the brutality of the man’s death, the police do not take his murder seriously, and the case quickly goes unsolved. In episode 304, Jac and Alexis delve into the life and tragic death of Leon Laureles, exploring the systemic failures that have left his case unsolved for nearly three decades and highlighting his niece's unwavering fight for justice. 🎟 Catch up to FOUR bonus episodes per month plus full video episodes over on Patreon:patreon.com/thefirstdegree❤️ The Heavy Metal Project: theheavymetalproject.com📸 Instagram: instagram.com/thefirstdegree🕺 TikTok: tiktok.com/@thefirstdegreee👤 Facebook: facebook.com/thefirstdegree⚖️ On the Stand: (818) 446-6889💩 Worst Thing You’ve Ever Done: (818) 446-6889🤝 Advice: [email protected]
6/19/202446 minutes, 53 seconds
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BONUS: KILLING TIME: ALEXIS’ WEDDING RECAP

Hello! Welcome back to another very special episode of Killing Time! Today, the girls and the ginger are reminiscing about Alexis and Matt’s incredible “surprise” wedding! That’s it! So much to say about such an incredible weekend celebrating our amazing friends. Oh, also, we got a surprise Pizza Hut delivery mid-episode shout out to the hut! 🎟 Catch up to FOUR bonus episodes per month plus full video episodes over on Patreon:patreon.com/thefirstdegree❤️ The Heavy Metal Project: theheavymetalproject.com📸 Instagram: instagram.com/thefirstdegree🕺 TikTok: tiktok.com/@thefirstdegreee👤 Facebook: facebook.com/thefirstdegree⚖️ On the Stand: (818) 446-6889💩 Worst Thing You’ve Ever Done: (818) 446-6889🤝 Advice: [email protected]
6/13/202445 minutes, 47 seconds
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Episode 303: Ronda Thompson Reynolds, Part 2

Over a decade after Ronda Reynolds was killed, her mother wins the right under state law to have a judge convene an inquest into the death. When a jury determines that in their view the coroner originally got it wrong, the focus eventually pivots to not one but two people in the woman’s life. In episode 303, Alexis and Jac take you through the culmination of the Ronda Reynolds case, and how Barb, Ronda’s mother, joined forces with Ann Rule in the quest to find justice. 🎟 Catch up to FOUR bonus episodes per month plus full video episodes over on Patreon:patreon.com/thefirstdegree❤️ The Heavy Metal Project: theheavymetalproject.com📸 Instagram: instagram.com/thefirstdegree🕺 TikTok: tiktok.com/@thefirstdegreee👤 Facebook: facebook.com/thefirstdegree⚖️ On the Stand: (818) 446-6889💩 Worst Thing You’ve Ever Done: (818) 446-6889🤝 Advice: [email protected]
6/12/202434 minutes, 3 seconds
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BONUS: KILLING TIME: WALKIN & TALKIN

Welcome back to another exhilarating episode of Killing Time! This week, the girls and the ginger are ALL over the place, but eventually, it’s time for everybody’s favorite segment, Today I Learned! On the menu today: the origins of Dungeons and Dragons, Manatee facts, Avocados, and a listener-submitted T-bell grievance! And yes, we know you know Alexis got married this weekend, don’t worry, the episode is coming! 🎟 Catch up to FOUR bonus episodes per month plus full video episodes over on Patreon:patreon.com/thefirstdegree❤️ The Heavy Metal Project: theheavymetalproject.com📸 Instagram: instagram.com/thefirstdegree🕺 TikTok: tiktok.com/@thefirstdegreee👤 Facebook: facebook.com/thefirstdegree⚖️ On the Stand: (818) 446-6889💩 Worst Thing You’ve Ever Done: (818) 446-6889🤝 Advice: [email protected]
6/6/202442 minutes, 11 seconds
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Episode 302: Ronda Thompson Reynolds, Part 1

On December 16, 1998, a 33-year-old woman named Ronda Reynolds is found dead with a gunshot wound to the head inside her home in Toledo, Washington. Her death is ruled a suicide. But her mother believes there’s more behind the circumstances of the incomprehensible loss of someone who was one of the first female state troopers in Washington, and had only been married to her new husband of 18 months. In episode 302 Jac and Alexis detail the tragic murder of Ronda Reynolds, her mother’s fight for someone to be held criminally responsible, and how the bizarre aspects of the case catch the eye of famed crime writer, Ann Rule. 🎟 Catch up to FOUR bonus episodes per month plus full video episodes over on Patreon:patreon.com/thefirstdegree❤️ The Heavy Metal Project: theheavymetalproject.com📸 Instagram: instagram.com/thefirstdegree🕺 TikTok: tiktok.com/@thefirstdegreee👤 Facebook: facebook.com/thefirstdegree⚖️ On the Stand: (818) 446-6889💩 Worst Thing You’ve Ever Done: (818) 446-6889🤝 Advice: [email protected]
6/5/202441 minutes, 3 seconds
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BONUS: KILLING TIME: CUTIE CRAZY

The girls and the ginger would like to welcome you back for another week of Killing Time! Today, Jac goes deep into the halls of history with a super extended version of on this day! Then! Today I learned! The 7-eleven logo, the origin of Arby’s name, and chaos on the set of Titanic! Enjoy! 🎟 Catch up to FOUR bonus episodes per month plus full video episodes over on Patreon:patreon.com/thefirstdegree❤️ The Heavy Metal Project: theheavymetalproject.com📸 Instagram: instagram.com/thefirstdegree🕺 TikTok: tiktok.com/@thefirstdegreee👤 Facebook: facebook.com/thefirstdegree⚖️ On the Stand: (818) 446-6889💩 Worst Thing You’ve Ever Done: (818) 446-6889🤝 Advice: [email protected]
5/30/202444 minutes, 9 seconds
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Episode 301: Greg Everett Wells

On January 6, 2002, a 31-year-old pizza delivery driver is bludgeoned to death and has his throat cut after making a delivery to an apartment in Cedar Rapids, Iowa. the brutality of the attack, which police suspect is motivated by robbery, has the community on edge. Within days, a 17-year-old young man, who lives at the apartment where the victim is slain, and his 20-year-old female friend are apprehended. The sheer randomness of the attack is felt far and wide as the suspect’s identities and backgrounds are released to the public. But their subsequent lack of remorse over the violent slaying is what truly chills the community to the bone. In episode 301, Jac and Alexis detail the senseless murder of Greg Everett Wells at the hands of David James Keegan and Brandy Renee Byrd, and the devastating consequences of sheer malevolence colliding with being in the wrong place at the wrong time, leaving a family forever shattered. 🎟 Catch up to FOUR bonus episodes per month plus full video episodes over on Patreon:patreon.com/thefirstdegree❤️ The Heavy Metal Project: theheavymetalproject.com📸 Instagram: instagram.com/thefirstdegree🕺 TikTok: tiktok.com/@thefirstdegreee👤 Facebook: facebook.com/thefirstdegree⚖️ On the Stand: (818) 446-6889💩 Worst Thing You’ve Ever Done: (818) 446-6889🤝 Advice: [email protected]
5/29/202444 minutes, 28 seconds
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BONUS: KILLING TIME: BEEZIN

This week the girls and the ginger return for another fact-filled frenzy edition of Killing Time! Jac has about one million things to say before we get into the good stuff: Today I Learned! This week: Dolphin name tags, Hangover origins, Narlugas? Then back-to-back listener submitted TIL’s about KFC and eyedrops!! Let’s get it on! 🎟 Catch up to FOUR bonus episodes per month plus full video episodes over on Patreon:patreon.com/thefirstdegree❤️ The Heavy Metal Project: theheavymetalproject.com📸 Instagram: instagram.com/thefirstdegree🕺 TikTok: tiktok.com/@thefirstdegreee👤 Facebook: facebook.com/thefirstdegree⚖️ On the Stand: (818) 446-6889💩 Worst Thing You’ve Ever Done: (818) 446-6889🤝 Advice: [email protected]
5/23/202441 minutes, 21 seconds
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Episode 300: Ashleigh Love

In the early morning hours of October 6, 2009, a 19-year-old woman is shot in her bed as she sleeps in her family’s Milwaukee, Wisconsin home. Immediately after the gunshot, the woman’s mother awakens to the sound of footsteps outside her door. Upon opening it, she comes face to face with an intruder holding a shotgun in his hand. The intruder flees, and the family rushes to the woman’s room, only to find her tragically deceased. Police immediately determine the murder was targeted, yet they struggle to figure out a motive and the case quickly goes cold. In our 300th episode,  Jac and Alexis break down the murder of Ashleigh Love, and her family’s relentless pursuit of truth and justice. 🎟 Catch up to FOUR bonus episodes per month plus full video episodes over on Patreon:patreon.com/thefirstdegree❤️ The Heavy Metal Project: theheavymetalproject.com📸 Instagram: instagram.com/thefirstdegree🕺 TikTok: tiktok.com/@thefirstdegreee👤 Facebook: facebook.com/thefirstdegree⚖️ On the Stand: (818) 446-6889💩 Worst Thing You’ve Ever Done: (818) 446-6889🤝 Advice: [email protected]
5/22/202459 minutes, 36 seconds
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BONUS: KILLING TIME: TATERS

Welp, here we go again. The girls and the ginger return, and in the most Killing Time fashion ever, proceed to go on about 100 tangents before we get to our favorite new segment, Today I Learned! Our listener submission today is a fun fact about strawberries! Then! Angler fish reproduction, Five Guys fries, and bird flu! What a time to be alive! 🎟 Catch up to FOUR bonus episodes per month plus full video episodes over on Patreon:patreon.com/thefirstdegree❤️ The Heavy Metal Project: theheavymetalproject.com📸 Instagram: instagram.com/thefirstdegree🕺 TikTok: tiktok.com/@thefirstdegreee👤 Facebook: facebook.com/thefirstdegree⚖️ On the Stand: (818) 446-6889💩 Worst Thing You’ve Ever Done: (818) 446-6889🤝 Advice: [email protected]
5/16/202446 minutes
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Episode 299: John Wayne Gacy, Part 2

On December 11th, 1978, a 15-year-old boy disappeared after finishing work at a drugstore in Des Plaines, Illinois. Law enforcement was soon on the case and two days later, a search warrant was executed at a family home in the suburbs. But what investigators uncover in the coming weeks and months is beyond their wildest and most grotesque nightmares, as the public is left aghast when one of the country’s most infamous and prolific serial killers is exposed. Someone who killed not just Robert Jerome Piest, but at least 32 other boys and young men. Including 18-year-old Matthew Bowman, the uncle of Megan, one of two First Degree sources interviewed for these episodes. In part 2, a new voice joins the conversation in the form of attorney and author Karen Conti, who represented Gacy in his final death penalty appeal and wrote a book about her experience. 🎟 Catch up to FOUR bonus episodes per month plus full video episodes over on Patreon:patreon.com/thefirstdegree❤️ The Heavy Metal Project: theheavymetalproject.com📸 Instagram: instagram.com/thefirstdegree🕺 TikTok: tiktok.com/@thefirstdegreee👤 Facebook: facebook.com/thefirstdegree⚖️ On the Stand: (818) 446-6889💩 Worst Thing You’ve Ever Done: (818) 446-6889🤝 Advice: [email protected]
5/15/202452 minutes, 58 seconds
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BONUS: KILLING TIME: IT’S SCIENCE TIME

Here we go again! The girls and the ginger return for another week of who honestly knows anymore. This tangent-filled episode takes so many twists and turns it’s hard to remember where we started. But one thing remains: this week, you will LEARN! With us! Today I Learned is back, and we’re taking another listener submission about snails! Then! The rejection hotline, horseshoe crabs, and Bill Nye! Let’s go! 🎟 Catch up to FOUR bonus episodes per month plus full video episodes over on Patreon:patreon.com/thefirstdegree❤️ The Heavy Metal Project: theheavymetalproject.com📸 Instagram: instagram.com/thefirstdegree🕺 TikTok: tiktok.com/@thefirstdegreee👤 Facebook: facebook.com/thefirstdegree⚖️ On the Stand: (818) 446-6889💩 Worst Thing You’ve Ever Done: (818) 446-6889🤝 Advice: [email protected]
5/9/202450 minutes, 6 seconds
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Episode 298: John Wayne Gacy, Part 1

In the spring of 1977, 18-year-old Matthew Bowman mysteriously disappeared from a suburban Chicago neighborhood. Matthew’s family immediately knew something horrible had happened, yet he was dismissed as a runaway by local police. Soon the arrest of serial killer John Wayne Gacy and the horrors found in the crawlspace under his house made the news. It was only then that Matthew’s family learned what happened to him. In speaking with members of Matthew’s family, this episode demonstrates how the loss of Matthew at the hands of John Wayne Gacy still reverberates today. 🎟 Catch up to FOUR bonus episodes per month plus full video episodes over on Patreon:patreon.com/thefirstdegree❤️ The Heavy Metal Project: theheavymetalproject.com📸 Instagram: instagram.com/thefirstdegree🕺 TikTok: tiktok.com/@thefirstdegreee👤 Facebook: facebook.com/thefirstdegree⚖️ On the Stand: (818) 446-6889💩 Worst Thing You’ve Ever Done: (818) 446-6889🤝 Advice: [email protected]
5/8/202437 minutes, 37 seconds
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BONUS: KILLING TIME: GREATEST FORNICATOR EVER

Welcome back for another thrilling episode of Killing Time! This week the girls and the ginger are opening up the phone lines for another installment of Today I Learned! Our caller brings another Roald Dahl fact that will definitely surprise you. Then! Nostrils, doorstoppers, and IOS flight tracking. Lots to learn! Plus! Another update on the LISK investigation from who else but our very own Alexis Linkletter! 🎟 Catch up to FOUR bonus episodes per month plus full video episodes over on Patreon:patreon.com/thefirstdegree❤️ The Heavy Metal Project: theheavymetalproject.com📸 Instagram: instagram.com/thefirstdegree🕺 TikTok: tiktok.com/@thefirstdegreee👤 Facebook: facebook.com/thefirstdegree⚖️ On the Stand: (818) 446-6889💩 Worst Thing You’ve Ever Done: (818) 446-6889🤝 Advice: [email protected]
5/2/202442 minutes, 56 seconds
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Episode 297: Andrew Wieman, Part 2

On February 10, 2002, authorities announce that they have finally determined the manner of Andrew Wieman’s death, and it comes as a surprise to everyone. Instead of bringing much needed answers, the determination only raises more questions for Andrew’s family and friends. Even after 20 plus years, these questions linger without answers, and the concerns continue to weigh heavily on their hearts. In episode 297, Jac and Alexis detail how authorities arrived at their determination, as well as the emotional impact it had on the family. 🎟 Catch up to FOUR bonus episodes per month plus full video episodes over on Patreon:patreon.com/thefirstdegree❤️ The Heavy Metal Project: theheavymetalproject.com📸 Instagram: instagram.com/thefirstdegree🕺 TikTok: tiktok.com/@thefirstdegreee👤 Facebook: facebook.com/thefirstdegree⚖️ On the Stand: (818) 446-6889💩 Worst Thing You’ve Ever Done: (818) 446-6889🤝 Advice: [email protected]
5/1/202450 minutes, 5 seconds
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BONUS: KILLING TIME: HAMSTER MAN

Welcome back for another episode of Killing Time! This week the girls and the ginger are reaching into some current topics including an update on the LISK case, Gypsy Rose, and more! Today on Today I Learned: A bizarre autopsy, schizophrenia in blind people, the origin of the Guinness Book of World Records, and a listener submitted famous last words! 🎟 Catch up to FOUR bonus episodes per month plus full video episodes over on Patreon:patreon.com/thefirstdegree❤️ The Heavy Metal Project: theheavymetalproject.com📸 Instagram: instagram.com/thefirstdegree🕺 TikTok: tiktok.com/@thefirstdegreee👤 Facebook: facebook.com/thefirstdegree⚖️ On the Stand: (818) 446-6889💩 Worst Thing You’ve Ever Done: (818) 446-6889🤝 Advice: [email protected]
4/25/202444 minutes, 23 seconds
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Episode 296: Andrew Wieman, Part 1

On January 4, 2001, a 20-year-old college student is found dead in his fraternity dorm room on the UC Davis campus. He has suffered 29 stab wounds, two of which are fatal. When authorities look around the room, they find evidence of a possible struggle. But there’s also a piece of paper that appears to be a suicide note. Right away, the campus police rule his death as a suicide. However, the coroner’s office finds the circumstances suspicious and orders a full investigation. Over the following months, authorities struggle to reach a consensus on the circumstances surrounding the student's death. In episode 296, Jac and Alexis break down the investigation into the death of Andrew Wieman, and his family’s fight for answers along the way. 🎟 Catch up to FOUR bonus episodes per month plus full video episodes over on Patreon:patreon.com/thefirstdegree❤️ The Heavy Metal Project: theheavymetalproject.com📸 Instagram: instagram.com/thefirstdegree🕺 TikTok: tiktok.com/@thefirstdegreee👤 Facebook: facebook.com/thefirstdegree⚖️ On the Stand: (818) 446-6889💩 Worst Thing You’ve Ever Done: (818) 446-6889🤝 Advice: [email protected]
4/24/202441 minutes, 45 seconds
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BONUS: KILLING TIME: MOST INTELLIGENT EPISODE EVER

This week the girls and the ginger are back for another half-fact-filled episode of Killing Time! In what might be our most intelligent sounding episode, we’re talking about deep ocean aliens, Einstein, space, and so much more that we know nothing about! Then! Today I Learned! We’re talking OJ, Tongues, Eclipses, and a Firstie calls in with another Roald Dahl fact! 🎟 Catch up to FOUR bonus episodes per month plus full video episodes over on Patreon:patreon.com/thefirstdegree❤️ The Heavy Metal Project: theheavymetalproject.com📸 Instagram: instagram.com/thefirstdegree🕺 TikTok: tiktok.com/@thefirstdegreee👤 Facebook: facebook.com/thefirstdegree⚖️ On the Stand: (818) 446-6889💩 Worst Thing You’ve Ever Done: (818) 446-6889🤝 Advice: [email protected]
4/18/202446 minutes, 11 seconds
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Episode 295: Julie Lee Kelin

On November 2, 2001, a 40-year-old woman is viciously bludgeoned and strangled to death inside her apartment in San Diego, California. Family, friends, and neighbors of the mother of one and passionate advocate for those living with Alagille Syndrome, are stunned and heartbroken, especially her teen daughter. While the killer is quickly apprehended, this doesn’t lessen the pain when his identity is revealed. If anything, it highlights the tragedy of the victim’s loss and only leads to more questions about the disturbing details of her death, with those left behind mourning the passing of someone who still had so much to give. In episode 295, Jac and Alexis detail the sickening murder of Julie Kelin at the hands of Gabriel John Bradway, the dangers of obsession, and why the safest place for perpetrators of such crimes who fail to respect other’s boundaries in such a malicious way is behind bars. 🎟 Catch up to FOUR bonus episodes per month plus full video episodes over on Patreon:patreon.com/thefirstdegree❤️ The Heavy Metal Project: theheavymetalproject.com📸 Instagram: instagram.com/thefirstdegree🕺 TikTok: tiktok.com/@thefirstdegreee👤 Facebook: facebook.com/thefirstdegree⚖️ On the Stand: (818) 446-6889💩 Worst Thing You’ve Ever Done: (818) 446-6889🤝 Advice: [email protected]
4/17/202439 minutes, 21 seconds
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BONUS: KILLING TIME: DEFINITELY

This week the girls and the ginger return and we’re killing time in epic fashion! Jac has some spelling struggles, Lex has safety tips, and Jer has frog facts! Today I learned returns! Then! We’re revisiting our new favorite segment “Chat in the Hat” for some topical tangents! Join us! 🎟 Catch up to FOUR bonus episodes per month plus full video episodes over on Patreon:patreon.com/thefirstdegree❤️ The Heavy Metal Project: theheavymetalproject.com📸 Instagram: instagram.com/thefirstdegree🕺 TikTok: tiktok.com/@thefirstdegreee👤 Facebook: facebook.com/thefirstdegree⚖️ On the Stand: (818) 446-6889💩 Worst Thing You’ve Ever Done: (818) 446-6889🤝 Advice: [email protected]
4/11/202444 minutes, 29 seconds
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Episode 294: Joan Angela D'Alessandro

On April 19, 1973, a 7-year-old girl in Hillsdale, New Jersey, goes out selling Girl Scout cookies in her neighborhood. She knows she’s not allowed far, so when she doesn’t come home her family is instantly on high alert, as are the authorities. A widely publicized search for the youngster swings into action. But three days later, a grisly find brings the hunt to a sudden and devastating end. When the identity of the perpetrator emerges and it’s revealed how he assaulted and murdered his helpless victim, it becomes clear that the little girl didn’t even make it to the end of her street. In episode 294, Jac and Alexis detail the heartbreaking murder of Joan D’Alessandro and her family’s fight not just for justice, but for swift and meaningful legislative reform to prevent the horror they lived through from becoming a painful reality for any other family. 🎟 Catch up to FOUR bonus episodes per month plus full video episodes over on Patreon:patreon.com/thefirstdegree❤️ The Heavy Metal Project: theheavymetalproject.com📸 Instagram: instagram.com/thefirstdegree🕺 TikTok: tiktok.com/@thefirstdegreee👤 Facebook: facebook.com/thefirstdegree⚖️ On the Stand: (818) 446-6889💩 Worst Thing You’ve Ever Done: (818) 446-6889🤝 Advice: [email protected]
4/10/202444 minutes, 20 seconds
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BONUS: KILLING TIME: NOTHING IS EVERYTHING

Well well well, look who it is! The girls and the ginger return yet again for another episode of Killing Time! This week we’re bringing you more fun facts with Today I Learned, including a very special listener submission! Famous last words, a pringles coffin, extinct bananas, and… eating mummies? Join us! 🎟 Catch up to FOUR bonus episodes per month plus full video episodes over on Patreon:patreon.com/thefirstdegree❤️ The Heavy Metal Project: theheavymetalproject.com📸 Instagram: instagram.com/thefirstdegree🕺 TikTok: tiktok.com/@thefirstdegreee👤 Facebook: facebook.com/thefirstdegree⚖️ On the Stand: (818) 446-6889💩 Worst Thing You’ve Ever Done: (818) 446-6889🤝 Advice: [email protected]
4/4/202449 minutes, 3 seconds
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Episode 293: Jill Lynn Ulmer

On June 26, 2009, a 26-year-old college graduate is attacked and stabbed multiple times inside her apartment complex in Fayetteville, Arkansas. The young woman calls 911, and law enforcement arrives on the scene while the assault is in progress. They do their best to gain access and incapacitate the assailant but tragically are unable to save the victim’s life. Her friends and family are shattered when they learn not only how she died, but the identity of the perpetrator. In a twist to the investigation, the attacker attempts to place responsibility for the death with the actions of the officers who responded. In episode 293, Jac and Alexis detail the tragic murder of Jill Ulmer by her ex-boyfriend Ricky Anderson, and discuss how the emotional fallout from fatalities resulting from domestic violence ripples throughout the community in ways that forever change the lives of those whose sole mission is to protect and serve. 🎟 Catch up to FOUR bonus episodes per month plus full video episodes over on Patreon:patreon.com/thefirstdegree❤️ The Heavy Metal Project: theheavymetalproject.com📸 Instagram: instagram.com/thefirstdegree🕺 TikTok: tiktok.com/@thefirstdegreee👤 Facebook: facebook.com/thefirstdegree⚖️ On the Stand: (818) 446-6889💩 Worst Thing You’ve Ever Done: (818) 446-6889🤝 Advice: [email protected]
4/3/202441 minutes, 29 seconds
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BONUS: KILLING TIME: THE BIG BONK

This week the girls and the ginger return with another half-fact-filled episode of Killing Time! Join us for a special revival of “On the Stand” featuring animal bonding, street meat, and migraines! Then, we’re jumping into some current events since we procrastinated and recorded this episode yesterday! Yeehaw! 🎟 Catch up to FOUR bonus episodes per month plus full video episodes over on Patreon:patreon.com/thefirstdegree❤️ The Heavy Metal Project: theheavymetalproject.com📸 Instagram: instagram.com/thefirstdegree🕺 TikTok: tiktok.com/@thefirstdegreee👤 Facebook: facebook.com/thefirstdegree⚖️ On the Stand: (818) 446-6889💩 Worst Thing You’ve Ever Done: (818) 446-6889🤝 Advice: [email protected]
3/28/202450 minutes, 31 seconds
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Episode 292: William Rufus Stephens Jr.

In the early hours of January 3, 2009, a 29-year-old man is found shot in his truck outside a bar in College Station, Texas. He’s still alive at this point, so first responders rush him to the hospital, where he sadly passes away. Detectives get to work and quickly identify a suspect - a 36-year-old car salesman with a history of violence. However, detectives struggle to figure out a motive behind the shooting. In fact, the victim and the murderer never even exchanged words. In episode 292, Jac and Alexis delve into the tragic murder of William Rufus Stephens Jr., and his killer’s history of “psycho” behavior. 🎟 Catch up to FOUR bonus episodes per month plus full video episodes over on Patreon:patreon.com/thefirstdegree❤️ The Heavy Metal Project: theheavymetalproject.com📸 Instagram: instagram.com/thefirstdegree🕺 TikTok: tiktok.com/@thefirstdegreee👤 Facebook: facebook.com/thefirstdegree⚖️ On the Stand: (818) 446-6889💩 Worst Thing You’ve Ever Done: (818) 446-6889🤝 Advice: [email protected]
3/27/202441 minutes, 17 seconds
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BONUS: KILLING TIME: LAP IT UP

This week the girls and the ginger return for a Killing Time of epic proportions! Today I Learned returns for another fact-filled feature including info about the platypus, Robert Pattinson, and more! Then it’s time for chat in a hat! Strap in! 🎟 Catch up to FOUR bonus episodes per month plus full video episodes over on Patreon:patreon.com/thefirstdegree❤️ The Heavy Metal Project: theheavymetalproject.com📸 Instagram: instagram.com/thefirstdegree🕺 TikTok: tiktok.com/@thefirstdegreee👤 Facebook: facebook.com/thefirstdegree⚖️ On the Stand: (818) 446-6889💩 Worst Thing You’ve Ever Done: (818) 446-6889🤝 Advice: [email protected]
3/21/202445 minutes, 53 seconds
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Episode 291: James "Jimmy" Michael

On the morning of November 29, 2005, a fire breaks out at a Morgantown, West Virginia home, engulfing the quiet neighborhood in chaos. Amidst the smoke and flames, responders discover the badly burned body of a 33-year-old man, lying in his bed. As investigators sift through the evidence, they quickly realize this is no ordinary house fire - it's arson, and the man had been dead before the blaze began. As the investigation continues, the evidence keeps leading investigators back to one person in particular. Someone very close to the victim who had multiple motives to want him gone. In episode 291, Jac and Alexis unravel the harrowing tale of James “Jimmy” Michael's murder, and his family’s journey to justice, and for some, forgiveness. 🎟 Catch up to FOUR bonus episodes per month plus full video episodes over on Patreon:patreon.com/thefirstdegree❤️ The Heavy Metal Project: theheavymetalproject.com📸 Instagram: instagram.com/thefirstdegree🕺 TikTok: tiktok.com/@thefirstdegreee👤 Facebook: facebook.com/thefirstdegree⚖️ On the Stand: (818) 446-6889💩 Worst Thing You’ve Ever Done: (818) 446-6889🤝 Advice: [email protected]
3/20/202449 minutes, 46 seconds
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BONUS: KILLING TIME: TAMRON HALL

This week on Killing Time the girls are joined by true crime royalty, the one and only Tamron Hall. Throughout her career, Tamron has dominated all corners of the media as crime reporter, talk show host and novelist. On today’s episode we share our full interview with Tamron, delving into topics like  love, loss, success, and the real life cases that have inspired her writing. 🎟 Catch up to FOUR bonus episodes per month plus full video episodes over on Patreon:patreon.com/thefirstdegree❤️ The Heavy Metal Project: theheavymetalproject.com📸 Instagram: instagram.com/thefirstdegree🕺 TikTok: tiktok.com/@thefirstdegreee👤 Facebook: facebook.com/thefirstdegree⚖️ On the Stand: (818) 446-6889💩 Worst Thing You’ve Ever Done: (818) 446-6889🤝 Advice: [email protected]
3/14/20241 hour, 16 minutes, 41 seconds
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Episode 290: Tamron Hall: Watch Where They Hide

On a very special episode of The First Degree, Alexis & Jac talk to award winning crime journalist, talk show host and author, Tamron Hall. Tamron opens up about the true crime cases that have stuck with her throughout her career, and coping with the personal tragedy of losing of her sister. Renate Newton, Tamron’s sister, was murdered on July 11th of 2004, and to this day her killer has not been apprehended. Tamron candidly sheds light on her new novel, Watch Where They Hide, delving into the real life parallels that inspired her work. 🎟 Catch up to FOUR bonus episodes per month plus full video episodes over on Patreon:patreon.com/thefirstdegree❤️ The Heavy Metal Project: theheavymetalproject.com📸 Instagram: instagram.com/thefirstdegree🕺 TikTok: tiktok.com/@thefirstdegreee👤 Facebook: facebook.com/thefirstdegree⚖️ On the Stand: (818) 446-6889💩 Worst Thing You’ve Ever Done: (818) 446-6889🤝 Advice: [email protected]
3/13/202450 minutes, 18 seconds
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BONUS: KILLING TIME: HOLLY MADISON RETURNS

This week the girls are joined by our good friend and bombshell Holly Madison for a very special Killing Time! We’re talking hauntings, aliens, conspiracies and more! Plus! Corn cob! Stick around til the end to find out what it means! 🎟 Catch up to FOUR bonus episodes per month plus full video episodes over on Patreon:patreon.com/thefirstdegree❤️ The Heavy Metal Project: theheavymetalproject.com📸 Instagram: instagram.com/thefirstdegree🕺 TikTok: tiktok.com/@thefirstdegreee👤 Facebook: facebook.com/thefirstdegree⚖️ On the Stand: (818) 446-6889💩 Worst Thing You’ve Ever Done: (818) 446-6889🤝 Advice: [email protected]
3/7/202439 minutes, 43 seconds
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Episode 289: Jill Ann Spaulding

In this episode, Holly Madison shares a peek behind the curtain of the forbidden world of Playboy. During her time at the mansion she encountered several Playboy hopefuls, looking for a way into Hef’s impenetrable inner circle... women just like Jill Ann Spaulding. As Host and EP of Season 2 of Investigation Discovery’s “The Playboy Murders,” Holly takes us through a story that began in tinsel town and ended in tragedy.  🎟 Catch up to FOUR bonus episodes per month plus full video episodes over on Patreon:patreon.com/thefirstdegree❤️ The Heavy Metal Project: theheavymetalproject.com📸 Instagram: instagram.com/thefirstdegree🕺 TikTok: tiktok.com/@thefirstdegreee👤 Facebook: facebook.com/thefirstdegree⚖️ On the Stand: (818) 446-6889💩 Worst Thing You’ve Ever Done: (818) 446-6889🤝 Advice: [email protected]
3/6/202457 minutes, 54 seconds
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BONUS: KILLING TIME: LEAP DAY

Hello Firsties! The girls and the ginger are back under quite rare circumstances! Today is leap day! Join us as we explore some interesting happenings in history from this bizarre bonus day. Then! A couple new segments today: Today I learned, and Chat in the Hat! 🎟 Catch up to FOUR bonus episodes per month plus full video episodes over on Patreon:patreon.com/thefirstdegree❤️ The Heavy Metal Project: theheavymetalproject.com📸 Instagram: instagram.com/thefirstdegree🕺 TikTok: tiktok.com/@thefirstdegreee👤 Facebook: facebook.com/thefirstdegree⚖️ On the Stand: (818) 446-6889💩 Worst Thing You’ve Ever Done: (818) 446-6889🤝 Advice: [email protected]
2/29/202440 minutes, 1 second
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Episode 288: Denise Huskins & Aaron Quinn, Part 2

We conclude with part two of our coverage of the Denise & Aaron’s unbelievable story. Delving into the catastrophic failure of law enforcement in this case, the dogged female detective that broke the case wide open, the troubling past of the perpetrator, and the questions that still linger.  🎟 Catch up to FOUR bonus episodes per month plus full video episodes over on Patreon:patreon.com/thefirstdegree❤️ The Heavy Metal Project: theheavymetalproject.com📸 Instagram: instagram.com/thefirstdegree🕺 TikTok: tiktok.com/@thefirstdegreee👤 Facebook: facebook.com/thefirstdegree⚖️ On the Stand: (818) 446-6889💩 Worst Thing You’ve Ever Done: (818) 446-6889🤝 Advice: [email protected]
2/28/202454 minutes, 22 seconds
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BONUS: KILLING TIME: READ IT ON REDDIT

This week the girls and the ginger return and dive deep down the rabbit hole of Reddit! Also, we’re banging the gavel yet again. Straight to jail this week: Senior living housing prices, Elon Musk, and bowls! And stick around until the end for a cringe confession from a thrifty thief! 🎟 Catch up to FOUR bonus episodes per month plus full video episodes over on Patreon:patreon.com/thefirstdegree❤️ The Heavy Metal Project: theheavymetalproject.com📸 Instagram: instagram.com/thefirstdegree🕺 TikTok: tiktok.com/@thefirstdegreee👤 Facebook: facebook.com/thefirstdegree⚖️ On the Stand: (818) 446-6889💩 Worst Thing You’ve Ever Done: (818) 446-6889🤝 Advice: [email protected]
2/22/202445 minutes, 7 seconds
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Episode 287: Denise Huskins & Aaron Quinn, Part 1

In part one, Lex and Jac sit down with Denise Huskins and Aaron Quinn, the couple at the center of the earth shattering story that’s captivated the nation. Whether you know them from their book, Victim F. or the explosive Netflix Documentary “American Nightmare,” what you think you know about their story and the bizarre elements of this case is just the tip of the iceberg. 🎟 Catch up to FOUR bonus episodes per month plus full video episodes over on Patreon:patreon.com/thefirstdegree❤️ The Heavy Metal Project: theheavymetalproject.com📸 Instagram: instagram.com/thefirstdegree🕺 TikTok: tiktok.com/@thefirstdegreee👤 Facebook: facebook.com/thefirstdegree⚖️ On the Stand: (818) 446-6889💩 Worst Thing You’ve Ever Done: (818) 446-6889🤝 Advice: [email protected]
2/21/202456 minutes, 56 seconds
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BONUS: KILLING TIME: TIME TRAVELING TRUMPS

The girls and the ginger return with another episode of Killing Time! Don those tin foil hats because this week Alexis has uncovered some very bizarre information regarding the alleged time traveling capability of a certain recent US president and his family. Hoo boy. Even for me (hi it’s Jared) this is a lot to process. Also! The introduction of a brand new segment: Cringe Confessions! 🎟 Catch up to FOUR bonus episodes per month plus full video episodes over on Patreon:patreon.com/thefirstdegree❤️ The Heavy Metal Project: theheavymetalproject.com📸 Instagram: instagram.com/thefirstdegree🕺 TikTok: tiktok.com/@thefirstdegreee👤 Facebook: facebook.com/thefirstdegree⚖️ On the Stand: (818) 446-6889💩 Worst Thing You’ve Ever Done: (818) 446-6889🤝 Advice: [email protected]
2/15/202445 minutes, 10 seconds
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Episode 286: Greg Hunter

On August 27, 1990, a 19-year-old man is shot and his body concealed inside a commercial freezer at his workplace in Albuquerque, New Mexico. The killer steals cash from the register and flees the scene. The investigation drags on, much to the frustration and distress of not only the victim's family and friends, but the local community which is shaken in the aftermath of the seemingly random and brutal killing. But soon, the much-needed breakthrough comes thanks to the killer’s conscience, who reveals to law enforcement it was a catastrophic case of robbery gone wrong. In episode 286, Jac and Alexis detail the tragic case of Greg Hunter, his death at the hands of Richard James Yarger, and how, when someone is intent on selfish and desperate action, sometimes a dreadful collision of malevolence and circumstances result in the senseless loss of innocent and promising young life. 🎟 Catch up to FOUR bonus episodes per month plus full video episodes over on Patreon:patreon.com/thefirstdegree❤️ The Heavy Metal Project: theheavymetalproject.com📸 Instagram: instagram.com/thefirstdegree🕺 TikTok: tiktok.com/@thefirstdegreee👤 Facebook: facebook.com/thefirstdegree⚖️ On the Stand: (818) 446-6889💩 Worst Thing You’ve Ever Done: (818) 446-6889🤝 Advice: [email protected]
2/14/202438 minutes, 4 seconds
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BONUS: KILLING TIME: APPLE BOTTOM GENES

WE’RE BACK! Did you miss us? Killing Time returns today, and the gang is back in the studio! Two girls, one ginger, here yet again with more half-facts than ever! Couple new segments today: Straight to Jail and Down the Rabbit Hole. Join us! 🎟 Catch up to FOUR bonus episodes per month plus full video episodes over on Patreon:patreon.com/thefirstdegree❤️ The Heavy Metal Project: theheavymetalproject.com📸 Instagram: instagram.com/thefirstdegree🕺 TikTok: tiktok.com/@thefirstdegreee👤 Facebook: facebook.com/thefirstdegree⚖️ On the Stand: (818) 446-6889💩 Worst Thing You’ve Ever Done: (818) 446-6889🤝 Advice: [email protected]
2/8/202445 minutes, 45 seconds
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Episode 285: The Hadleys

On July 16, 2011, a 54-year-old man and his 47-year-old wife are bludgeoned to death at their home in Port St Lucie, Florida. The community is shocked beyond belief. The couple, who have been married for 25 years, leave behind a shell-shocked and heartbroken family, including two sons, who are left questioning the motivation for such an incomprehensible attack. When the perpetrator is identified, and their rationale for committing such a brutal double murder, those close to the victims are left wondering whether anything could have really stopped such a monstrous act. In episode 285, Jac and Alexis detail the disturbing case of Blake Hadley and his wife Mary-Jo, and how, when someone appears intent on heading down a certain path, sometimes no possible intervention can ever really prevent a person from making the most horrifying decision any of us could ever imagine. 🎟 Catch up to FOUR bonus episodes per month plus full video episodes over on Patreon:patreon.com/thefirstdegree❤️ The Heavy Metal Project: theheavymetalproject.com📸 Instagram: instagram.com/thefirstdegree🕺 TikTok: tiktok.com/@thefirstdegreee👤 Facebook: facebook.com/thefirstdegree⚖️ On the Stand: (818) 446-6889💩 Worst Thing You’ve Ever Done: (818) 446-6889🤝 Advice: [email protected]
2/7/202444 minutes, 23 seconds
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PATREON EXCLUSIVE: CRIMINAL EDUCATION

In a usually quiet neighborhood in Bakersfield, California, a family of five was murdered in their home on a sleepy Sunday afternoon. At first, police thought a random intruder could be responsible, but then, to the community’s surprise, detectives reveal this murder was not a random killing. Instead, it involved a suspect in another state, a history of abuse allegations and a connection much closer to home. 🎟 Catch up to FOUR bonus episodes per month plus full video episodes over on Patreon:patreon.com/thefirstdegree❤️ The Heavy Metal Project: theheavymetalproject.com📸 Instagram: instagram.com/thefirstdegree🕺 TikTok: tiktok.com/@thefirstdegreee👤 Facebook: facebook.com/thefirstdegree⚖️ On the Stand: (818) 446-6889💩 Worst Thing You’ve Ever Done: (818) 446-6889🤝 Advice: [email protected]
2/1/202442 minutes, 28 seconds
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Episode 284: Teresa Halbach

On Halloween, 2005, a 25-year-old woman disappears in Two Rivers, Wisconsin. Almost a week later, search parties find her Toyota RAV4 concealed in a salvage yard business where the young woman was last headed for a work assignment. Utimately, the property owner and his young nephew are convicted of murder and sentenced to life in prison. 10 years later, the documentary series ‘Making A Murderer’ raised serious questions about the men’s guilt, including allegations of police corruption in framing at least one of the killers, who had previously been previously wrongfully convicted. The much-lauded series went on to win awards for what many were led to believe was a balanced presentation of all the facts. But the filmmakers had in fact omitted key evidence contradicting their narrative. In episode 284, Jac and Alexis detail the tragic murder of Teresa Halbach at the hands of Steven Avery and Brendan Dassey, and how the fallout of exposing unethical media practices proves that consumers of true crime content should always be thinking critically. 🎟 Catch up to FOUR bonus episodes per month plus full video episodes over on Patreon:patreon.com/thefirstdegree❤️ The Heavy Metal Project: theheavymetalproject.com📸 Instagram: instagram.com/thefirstdegree🕺 TikTok: tiktok.com/@thefirstdegreee👤 Facebook: facebook.com/thefirstdegree⚖️ On the Stand: (818) 446-6889💩 Worst Thing You’ve Ever Done: (818) 446-6889🤝 Advice: [email protected]
1/31/202451 minutes, 3 seconds
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PATREON EXCLUSIVE: ASHLEY & MIRANDA

A note for our listeners:The New Year means a brand spankin’ new Killing Time. Don’t worry, we’re not leaving you hanging while we revamp our Thursday episodes. We’re dropping some of our favorite Patreon shows in the feed in the meantime. If you like what you hear join us over there. If not, hang tight, Killing Time will be back before you know it.A young girl vanishes on her way to the bus stop. Two months later, the best friend of the missing girl vanishes under identical circumstances. There’s no doubt about it, the cases are linked, but it takes the investigators months to uncover the cruel truth of what happened to them - revealing the dark family history of the perpetrator. 🎟 Catch up to FOUR bonus episodes per month plus full video episodes over on Patreon:patreon.com/thefirstdegree❤️ The Heavy Metal Project: theheavymetalproject.com📸 Instagram: instagram.com/thefirstdegree🕺 TikTok: tiktok.com/@thefirstdegreee👤 Facebook: facebook.com/thefirstdegree⚖️ On the Stand: (818) 446-6889💩 Worst Thing You’ve Ever Done: (818) 446-6889🤝 Advice: [email protected]
1/25/202436 minutes, 1 second
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Episode 283: Leanne Irene Davidson

On August 29, 2021, police respond to a 911 call from a home in Peoria, Arizona. Inside the residence, they find a 33-year-old nurse unresponsive on the floor of the bedroom, her estranged husband frantically attempting CPR, and his mother also present. He tells first responders the couple had been out drinking earlier in the evening, and his wife stopped breathing after being put in the shower. It all appears to be a terrible case of accidental death for the mother of two. But when paramedics observe injuries to the victim inconsistent with her husband’s account, things start to unravel, and law enforcement learns that all was not well within the couple’s marriage. In episode 283, Jac and Alexis detail the tragic mysterious death of Leanne Irene Davidson, the questions that linger around the circumstances, and why Leanne’s loved ones are not giving up until they find justice. 🎟 Catch up to FOUR bonus episodes per month plus full video episodes over on Patreon:patreon.com/thefirstdegree❤️ The Heavy Metal Project: theheavymetalproject.com📸 Instagram: instagram.com/thefirstdegree🕺 TikTok: tiktok.com/@thefirstdegreee👤 Facebook: facebook.com/thefirstdegree⚖️ On the Stand: (818) 446-6889💩 Worst Thing You’ve Ever Done: (818) 446-6889🤝 Advice: [email protected]
1/24/202451 minutes, 47 seconds
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PATREON EXCLUSIVE: LOOKING FOR LINDA

A note for our listeners:The New Year means a brand spankin’ new Killing Time. Don’t worry, we’re not leaving you hanging while we revamp our Thursday episodes. We’re dropping some of our favorite Patreon shows in the feed in the meantime. If you like what you hear join us over there. If not, hang tight, Killing Time will be back before you know it.A college student goes on her dinner break in Santa Clara, California. As she walks to her car, a mysterious man attacks the 19-year-old and drives off with her. Decades went by and many gave up hope that the ice cold case would ever be solved. Until a new revelation connects her death to a known serial killer along with a list of other victims. 🎟 Catch up to FOUR bonus episodes per month plus full video episodes over on Patreon:patreon.com/thefirstdegree❤️ The Heavy Metal Project: theheavymetalproject.com📸 Instagram: instagram.com/thefirstdegree🕺 TikTok: tiktok.com/@thefirstdegreee👤 Facebook: facebook.com/thefirstdegree⚖️ On the Stand: (818) 446-6889💩 Worst Thing You’ve Ever Done: (818) 446-6889🤝 Advice: [email protected]
1/18/202426 minutes, 1 second
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Episode 282: Kimberly Kaye Jones Wallace

On December 13, 1990, 27-year-old Kimberly Kaye “Kim” Wallace travels to her estranged husband 62-year-old Dr. Jack Ray Wallace’s home in Cobb County, Georgia to grab Christmas decorations. She is never seen alive again. Hours later, a small airplane lands 300 miles to the south near the Okefenokee Swamp. Those piloting the Cessna 172 aircraft did not turn on the radio-activated runway lights while landing, and an onlooker calls the authorities. When the officers arrive, they find Kim’s nude body on board the plane stuffed into a large, black toolbox with a plastic bag tied over her head. Piloting the plane is Dr. Wallace’s divorce attorney, 53-year-old Michael Glean, and his former neighbor, 43-year-old Frederick Steven Speas. Both men, along with Dr. Wallace and a fourth co-conspirator, are arrested, charged, and tried for orchestrating Kim’s murder. In episode 282, Jac and Alexis reveal how an elaborate murder-for-hire plot unraveled through sheer chance. 🎟 Catch up to FOUR bonus episodes per month plus full video episodes over on Patreon:patreon.com/thefirstdegree❤️ The Heavy Metal Project: theheavymetalproject.com📸 Instagram: instagram.com/thefirstdegree🕺 TikTok: tiktok.com/@thefirstdegreee👤 Facebook: facebook.com/thefirstdegree⚖️ On the Stand: (818) 446-6889💩 Worst Thing You’ve Ever Done: (818) 446-6889🤝 Advice: [email protected]
1/17/202449 minutes, 59 seconds
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PATREON EXCLUSIVE: FOR THE THRILL OF IT

A note for our listeners:The New Year means a brand spankin’ new Killing Time. Don’t worry, we’re not leaving you hanging while we revamp our Thursday episodes. We’re dropping some of our favorite Patreon shows in the feed in the meantime. If you like what you hear join us over there. If not, hang tight, Killing Time will be back before you know it.A student murder becomes the center of speculation at Hofstra University in New York. The sophomore was missing from campus for three weeks. The case had hit a standstill. But investigators found out that was because the killer was burying their tracks across Long Island. 🎟 Catch up to FOUR bonus episodes per month plus full video episodes over on Patreon:patreon.com/thefirstdegree❤️ The Heavy Metal Project: theheavymetalproject.com📸 Instagram: instagram.com/thefirstdegree🕺 TikTok: tiktok.com/@thefirstdegreee👤 Facebook: facebook.com/thefirstdegree⚖️ On the Stand: (818) 446-6889💩 Worst Thing You’ve Ever Done: (818) 446-6889🤝 Advice: [email protected]
1/11/202434 minutes, 37 seconds
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Episode 281: Joey Comunale

On Sunday, November 13, 2016, Pat Comunale worries about his son, 26-year-old Joey Comunale. Joey was supposed to arrive at his father’s house to watch football, but he never shows up. After a brief investigation, investigators discover that Joey has been brutally murdered by either 25-year-old Jimmy Rackover, 28-year-old Larry Dilione, or both. Jimmy and Larry, both affluent men with powerful friends, met Joey at a late night after party held in Jimmy’s New York City luxury apartment. Following a drug-fueled argument, Joey was brutally beaten and stabbed to death. After failing to dismember Joey’s body in Jimmy’s bathtub, Larry and Jimmy push Joey out of Jimmy’s penthouse’s fourth floor window onto the busy Manhattan sidewalk. To this day, Larry claims Jimmy dealt the final blow to Joey, while Jimmy claims the opposite. In episode 281, Alexis unravels the complicated politics, scandals, and accusations that shroud Joey Comunale’s murder in mystery. 🎟 Catch up to FOUR bonus episodes per month plus full video episodes over on Patreon:patreon.com/thefirstdegree❤️ The Heavy Metal Project: theheavymetalproject.com📸 Instagram: instagram.com/thefirstdegree🕺 TikTok: tiktok.com/@thefirstdegreee👤 Facebook: facebook.com/thefirstdegree⚖️ On the Stand: (818) 446-6889💩 Worst Thing You’ve Ever Done: (818) 446-6889🤝 Advice: [email protected]
1/10/202450 minutes
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BONUS: KILLING TIME: ASK A GIRL ASK A GINGER

This week the girls and the ginger ring in the new year with a good ol’ fashioned Q&A! We polled our firsties and then proceeded to offer some slightly solicited advice! Take it at your own risk! On the stand today: Sub-tweets, Trader Joe’s potstickers, and broccoli cheddar soup! Happy New Year! 🎟 Catch up to FOUR bonus episodes per month plus full video episodes over on Patreon:patreon.com/thefirstdegree❤️ The Heavy Metal Project: theheavymetalproject.com📸 Instagram: instagram.com/thefirstdegree🕺 TikTok: tiktok.com/@thefirstdegreee👤 Facebook: facebook.com/thefirstdegree⚖️ On the Stand: (818) 446-6889💩 Worst Thing You’ve Ever Done: (818) 446-6889🤝 Advice: [email protected]
1/4/202445 minutes, 9 seconds
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Episode 280: Pamela Kay Wills and Patricia Ann Mizell

On Friday, September 17, 1971, 10-year-old Pamela Kay Wills returns from Boyd Elementary School to her home in northern Jackson, Mississippi. That afternoon, Pamela and her friend, 11-year-old Patricia Ann Mizell, spend time together at Pamela’s house. The two girls tell Pamela’s father that they are going to walk the two-block journey to a nearby department store. Hours later, the Jackson Police Department is notified that Pamela and Patricia are missing. The ensuing investigation reveals little new information. It’s unclear if that’s due to a particularly careful child abductor or a lack of effort on behalf of the Jackson Police Department. On February 14th of 1975, two farmers discover the skeletal remains of Pamela and Patricia. They are located in a leafy ravine west of Vicksburg, Mississippi. In episode 280, Jac and Alexis unveil how two young girls vanished off the face of the Earth with zero explanation, few leads, and no evidence leading to their killer. 🎟 Catch up to FOUR bonus episodes per month plus full video episodes over on Patreon:patreon.com/thefirstdegree❤️ The Heavy Metal Project: theheavymetalproject.com📸 Instagram: instagram.com/thefirstdegree🕺 TikTok: tiktok.com/@thefirstdegreee👤 Facebook: facebook.com/thefirstdegree⚖️ On the Stand: (818) 446-6889💩 Worst Thing You’ve Ever Done: (818) 446-6889🤝 Advice: [email protected]
1/3/202443 minutes, 16 seconds
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BONUS: KILLING TIME: TRADITIONS

This week the girls and the ginger are hanging on by a holiday thread! It’s trash week! The best week of the year for those of us who just want to sit around and do nothing! On the stand today: auto-reply emails, fancy outfits on NYE, and wearing high heels to a house party! Then! We’re getting into some very bizarre traditions, stay tuned! 🎟 Catch up to FOUR bonus episodes per month plus full video episodes over on Patreon:patreon.com/thefirstdegree❤️ The Heavy Metal Project: theheavymetalproject.com📸 Instagram: instagram.com/thefirstdegree🕺 TikTok: tiktok.com/@thefirstdegreee👤 Facebook: facebook.com/thefirstdegree⚖️ On the Stand: (818) 446-6889💩 Worst Thing You’ve Ever Done: (818) 446-6889🤝 Advice: [email protected]
12/28/202342 minutes, 46 seconds
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Episode 279: Marie Buck

On Christmas Eve, 2016, an 81-year-old woman is shot dead at her family-owned business in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. The sudden and senseless slaying had an added layer of heartbreak, as the grocery store owner was a beloved community figure and familiar face known by everyone in the neighborhood. When it emerges that the victim wasn’t the target of the shooting this only adds to the confusion. But law enforcement quickly  learns the offender’s likely identity, coming to realise the killing is not just a matter of ‘wrong place, wrong time’, but also sadly a case of payback at any cost. In episode 279, Jac and Alexis detail the devastating murder of Marie Buck at the hands of Maurice Green, and how, when pride and the desire for revenge take hold, it can have tragic consequences that override one’s moral compass in irrevocable ways. 🎟 Catch up to FOUR bonus episodes per month plus full video episodes over on Patreon:patreon.com/thefirstdegree❤️ The Heavy Metal Project: theheavymetalproject.com📸 Instagram: instagram.com/thefirstdegree🕺 TikTok: tiktok.com/@thefirstdegreee👤 Facebook: facebook.com/thefirstdegree⚖️ On the Stand: (818) 446-6889💩 Worst Thing You’ve Ever Done: (818) 446-6889🤝 Advice: [email protected]
12/27/202341 minutes, 51 seconds
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BONUS: KILLING TIME: NOT QUITE FESTIVUS

The girls and the ginger are back and we’re getting festive yet again! It’s a Christmas episode! Do people even listen to podcasts around the holidays? Who knows! But we’re here to give you some high quality content because you know we always have your back. On the stand today: Food gifts, Matching xmas PJ’s, and adult Christmas lists. Then! A worstie gets a surprisingly stinky present! 🎟 Catch up to FOUR bonus episodes per month plus full video episodes over on Patreon:patreon.com/thefirstdegree❤️ The Heavy Metal Project: theheavymetalproject.com📸 Instagram: instagram.com/thefirstdegree🕺 TikTok: tiktok.com/@thefirstdegreee👤 Facebook: facebook.com/thefirstdegree⚖️ On the Stand: (818) 446-6889💩 Worst Thing You’ve Ever Done: (818) 446-6889🤝 Advice: [email protected]
12/21/202346 minutes, 47 seconds
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Episode 278: Wilbur & Wilma Williams Part 2

Alexis and Jac conclude with the second installment of the coverage on the case of Wilbur and Wilma Williams. 🎟 Catch up to FOUR bonus episodes per month plus full video episodes over on Patreon:patreon.com/thefirstdegree❤️ The Heavy Metal Project: theheavymetalproject.com📸 Instagram: instagram.com/thefirstdegree🕺 TikTok: tiktok.com/@thefirstdegreee👤 Facebook: facebook.com/thefirstdegree⚖️ On the Stand: (818) 446-6889💩 Worst Thing You’ve Ever Done: (818) 446-6889🤝 Advice: [email protected]
12/20/202333 minutes, 28 seconds
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BONUS: KILLING TIME: PUKA SHELLS

This week the girls and the ginger return for some sort of necklace personality quiz designed by none other than our emo queen Jacquelene. Come find out which early 2000’s neckwear you are! On the stand this week: Viral symbolic items, gravy, referring to yourself in third person, and cereal! Then, a surprise ending you’re gonna want to stick around for! It’s Killing Time! 🎟 Catch up to FOUR bonus episodes per month plus full video episodes over on Patreon:patreon.com/thefirstdegree❤️ The Heavy Metal Project: theheavymetalproject.com📸 Instagram: instagram.com/thefirstdegree🕺 TikTok: tiktok.com/@thefirstdegreee👤 Facebook: facebook.com/thefirstdegree⚖️ On the Stand: (818) 446-6889💩 Worst Thing You’ve Ever Done: (818) 446-6889🤝 Advice: [email protected]
12/14/202343 minutes, 18 seconds
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Episode 277: Wilbur & Wilma Williams Part 1

On Tuesday, August 3, 1999, 14-year-old identical twin brothers Donell and Ronell Williams break into a house in Wyandotte County, Kansas City, Kansas. They steal numerous items, including a handgun and ammunition. Later that day, the brothers are wandering their neighborhood aimlessly with the stolen pistol and live rounds in their possession. By chance, Ronell and Donell spot 79-year-old Wilbur John Williams (no relation) walking toward his mailbox. Shortly after, Ronell holds Wilbur and his wife, 73-year-old Wilma Faye Williams, at gunpoint in their own home while Donell steals their valuables. Afterward, as Donell readies the getaway car, Ronell shoots and kills both Wilbur and Wilma. He leaves as the elderly couple lay dying. Then, corruption in the Kansas City Police Department brings up questions. In episode 277, Jac and Alexis detail the atrocities caused by two teens’ unthinkable decisions and the far-reaching impact their crimes continue to have on the lives of others. 🎟 Catch up to FOUR bonus episodes per month plus full video episodes over on Patreon:patreon.com/thefirstdegree❤️ The Heavy Metal Project: theheavymetalproject.com📸 Instagram: instagram.com/thefirstdegree🕺 TikTok: tiktok.com/@thefirstdegreee👤 Facebook: facebook.com/thefirstdegree⚖️ On the Stand: (818) 446-6889💩 Worst Thing You’ve Ever Done: (818) 446-6889🤝 Advice: [email protected]
12/13/202347 minutes, 4 seconds
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BONUS: KILLING TIME: THE MICHELIN MAN

This week the girls and the ginger are back with a big time full-fact! Did you know the origin of the Michelin star rating system? We didn’t, but today we’re breaking it down, and it’s making us hungry! Then, we’re getting into some low IQ crimes. On the stand today: Removable sports bra padding, birthday instagram posts, and dessert dips! And finally, a Worstie with a sizable smackdown!🎟 Catch up to FOUR bonus episodes per month plus full video episodes over on Patreon:patreon.com/thefirstdegree❤️ The Heavy Metal Project: theheavymetalproject.com📸 Instagram: instagram.com/thefirstdegree🕺 TikTok: tiktok.com/@thefirstdegreee👤 Facebook: facebook.com/thefirstdegree⚖️ On the Stand: (818) 446-6889💩 Worst Thing You’ve Ever Done: (818) 446-6889🤝 Advice: [email protected]
12/7/202345 minutes, 24 seconds
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Episode 276: The Murdaugh Family, Part 2

The second installment of Alexis and Jac’s two part episode covering the Murdaugh Murders, featuring interviews with Mandy Matney and Carolyn Murnick, authors of “Blood on Their Hands.”🎟 Catch up to FOUR bonus episodes per month plus full video episodes over on Patreon:patreon.com/thefirstdegree❤️ The Heavy Metal Project: theheavymetalproject.com📸 Instagram: instagram.com/thefirstdegree🕺 TikTok: tiktok.com/@thefirstdegreee👤 Facebook: facebook.com/thefirstdegree⚖️ On the Stand: (818) 446-6889💩 Worst Thing You’ve Ever Done: (818) 446-6889🤝 Advice: [email protected]
12/6/202343 minutes, 17 seconds
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BONUS: KILLING TIME: KATIE THE GREATY

Hello Firsties! We’re back again for another week of Killing Time! We’re talking about Catherine the Great! A woman of great power and an even greater body count! She also had some wild chairs, but we’ll get into that later. On the stand today: moaning at a massage, Taco Bell, pickle ball, and new movies being pulled from theaters too early. Then, a worstie returns some soiled shorts!🎟 Catch up to FOUR bonus episodes per month plus full video episodes over on Patreon:patreon.com/thefirstdegree❤️ The Heavy Metal Project: theheavymetalproject.com📸 Instagram: instagram.com/thefirstdegree🕺 TikTok: tiktok.com/@thefirstdegreee👤 Facebook: facebook.com/thefirstdegree⚖️ On the Stand: (818) 446-6889💩 Worst Thing You’ve Ever Done: (818) 446-6889🤝 Advice: [email protected]
11/30/202347 minutes, 7 seconds
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Episode 275: The Murdaugh Family, Part 1

On February 24, 2019, a 19-year-old woman and her friends are on a private boat ride in the very early hours of the morning near Beaufort, South Carolina. The carefree night turns ugly when the 19-year-old skipper crashes the boat into a bridge, killing the young woman. The saga that follows is something, few people could have predicted. Two more people close to the case end up losing their lives in a brutal double slaying, before other previous deaths in the community soon become linked to a prominent local family at the center of the investigation. In episode 275, Jac and Alexis detail the tragic deaths of Gloria Satterfield, Stephen Smith, and Mallory Beach, followed by the shocking murders of Paul Murdaugh and his mother Maggie, the latter two orchestrated by their husband and father, local attorney Alex. This is a story about how all the power, prestige, and privilege in the world don’t make us untouchable when it comes to the law, and what happens when someone is brought to account by those whose job it is to expose the truth, no matter the risk.🎟 Catch up to FOUR bonus episodes per month plus full video episodes over on Patreon:patreon.com/thefirstdegree❤️ The Heavy Metal Project: theheavymetalproject.com📸 Instagram: instagram.com/thefirstdegree🕺 TikTok: tiktok.com/@thefirstdegreee👤 Facebook: facebook.com/thefirstdegree⚖️ On the Stand: (818) 446-6889💩 Worst Thing You’ve Ever Done: (818) 446-6889🤝 Advice: [email protected]
11/29/202341 minutes, 39 seconds
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BONUS: KILLING TIME: TURKEY TALK

The girls and the ginger return for a Thanksgiving episode STUFFED with all kinds of convo to distract you from the horrors of family gatherings! On the stand this week: overusing the word “perfect”, voice messages, catching up after a happy birthday text, and a quick revisit to EGG NOG! Then it’s on to Thanksgiving Day crimes! And finally, a Worstie skips school!🎟 Catch up to FOUR bonus episodes per month plus full video episodes over on Patreon:patreon.com/thefirstdegree❤️ The Heavy Metal Project: theheavymetalproject.com📸 Instagram: instagram.com/thefirstdegree🕺 TikTok: tiktok.com/@thefirstdegreee👤 Facebook: facebook.com/thefirstdegree⚖️ On the Stand: (818) 446-6889💩 Worst Thing You’ve Ever Done: (818) 446-6889🤝 Advice: [email protected]
11/23/202348 minutes, 35 seconds
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Episode 274: Christina Brittany Colón

On November 4, 2021, a 32-year-old woman and her 7 year old daughter are riding along as passengers with the woman’s 32-year-old boyfriend in his Honda Civic, along the I-26 in Charleston, South Carolina. Suddenly, their evening takes a turn when their vehicle accidentally has a minor collision with another. The Honda drives away, but a 24-year-old man witnesses the hit and run. He calls 911 but then pursues in his Mazda. After both vehicles turn off the highway, the Honda collides with the Mazda three times. Without warning, the Mazda driver fires a gun at the passenger side of the Honda several times, killing the woman inside and destroying multiple lives forever. In episode 274, Jac and Alexis detail the devastating death of Christina Colon, resulting from the actions of her boyfriend Austin Blayne Faltermeier and Parker Norman Gour, and the tragic story of how a split-second decision inflicts life-altering consequences you can’t come back from.🎟 Catch up to FOUR bonus episodes per month plus full video episodes over on Patreon:patreon.com/thefirstdegree❤️ The Heavy Metal Project: theheavymetalproject.com📸 Instagram: instagram.com/thefirstdegree🕺 TikTok: tiktok.com/@thefirstdegreee👤 Facebook: facebook.com/thefirstdegree⚖️ On the Stand: (818) 446-6889💩 Worst Thing You’ve Ever Done: (818) 446-6889🤝 Advice: [email protected]
11/22/202343 minutes, 56 seconds
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BONUS: KILLING TIME: TWIHARDS

The girls and the ginger are back yet again for another week of Killing Time! Today, Jac has brought a Twilight presentation. We didn’t ask for this, but here we are. On the stand: bagel to cream cheese ratios, wheat bread, unsalted butter, and big pumpkin!🎟 Catch up to FOUR bonus episodes per month plus full video episodes over on Patreon:patreon.com/thefirstdegree❤️ The Heavy Metal Project: theheavymetalproject.com📸 Instagram: instagram.com/thefirstdegree🕺 TikTok: tiktok.com/@thefirstdegreee👤 Facebook: facebook.com/thefirstdegree⚖️ On the Stand: (818) 446-6889💩 Worst Thing You’ve Ever Done: (818) 446-6889🤝 Advice: [email protected]
11/16/202344 minutes, 58 seconds
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Episode 273: Joseph Heidesch

On October 6th of 2021, Catholic high school music teacher 45-year-old Joseph Martin “Joe” Heidesch is arrested for multiple counts of sexual exploitation of a child and breach of privacy. Further investigation reveals that, from 2016 to 2021, the choir director secretly filmed his female students changing into their performance outfits in his private office. Court documents revealed that Mr. Heidesch would strongly encourage his female students to use his office to change clothes. He told the girls there was a “‘special lock” on his office door that would make their experience safer. Ultimately, more than 100 young women who attended St. Thomas Aquinas High School in Overland Park, Kansas, are notified that they were victimized by Mr. Heidesch’s crimes. In episode 273, Jac and Alexis unravel how one man’s pedophilia, lies, and exploitation negatively impacted many young women, their families, and the community as a whole.🎟 Catch up to FOUR bonus episodes per month plus full video episodes over on Patreon:patreon.com/thefirstdegree❤️ The Heavy Metal Project: theheavymetalproject.com📸 Instagram: instagram.com/thefirstdegree🕺 TikTok: tiktok.com/@thefirstdegreee👤 Facebook: facebook.com/thefirstdegree⚖️ On the Stand: (818) 446-6889💩 Worst Thing You’ve Ever Done: (818) 446-6889🤝 Advice: [email protected]
11/15/202343 minutes, 46 seconds
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BONUS: KILLING TIME: ACCIDENTAL ON THE STAND

This week the girls and the ginger return and things go immediately off the rails. What starts as a casual conversation turns into an entire episode of on the stands! We’re talking all things self-improvement. Do we really need to be our best selves? Are cigarettes part of a healthy organic lifestyle? Is aluminum the key to smelling good? We can’t promise we have the answers, but we definitely have some half-facts for you!🎟 Catch up to FOUR bonus episodes per month plus full video episodes over on Patreon:patreon.com/thefirstdegree❤️ The Heavy Metal Project: theheavymetalproject.com📸 Instagram: instagram.com/thefirstdegree🕺 TikTok: tiktok.com/@thefirstdegreee👤 Facebook: facebook.com/thefirstdegree⚖️ On the Stand: (818) 446-6889💩 Worst Thing You’ve Ever Done: (818) 446-6889🤝 Advice: [email protected]
11/9/202345 minutes, 29 seconds
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Episode 272: Roy Dean Ratliff

On August 1, 2002, two 16-year-old and 17-year-old young women, total strangers, are each parked with male companions up near a popular lovers' lane in Quartz Hill, California. Suddenly, their night is interrupted when the girls are kidnapped by a felon on the run in need of a getaway vehicle. For the next 12 hours, the girls endure a terrifying ordeal, as finding them safe and well becomes a race against time. But with law enforcement on the trail of the highly publicised kidnapping, it’s only a matter of time before the net closes in on the perpetrator. However, the sensational coverage of the case doesn’t end there. In episode 272, Jac and Alexis detail the shocking kidnap and assault of two young women at the hands of Roy Ratliff, and the incredible story of what happens when victims fight back to reclaim their voices in the aftermath of violent crime.🎟 Catch up to FOUR bonus episodes per month plus full video episodes over on Patreon:patreon.com/thefirstdegree❤️ The Heavy Metal Project: theheavymetalproject.com📸 Instagram: instagram.com/thefirstdegree🕺 TikTok: tiktok.com/@thefirstdegreee👤 Facebook: facebook.com/thefirstdegree⚖️ On the Stand: (818) 446-6889💩 Worst Thing You’ve Ever Done: (818) 446-6889🤝 Advice: [email protected]
11/8/202341 minutes, 59 seconds
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BONUS: KILLING TIME: HALLOWEEN HANGOVER

This week the girls and the ginger return with a chilled out episode of Killing Time. That’s right, we’re going off the rails this week. 2 Days post-Halloween, and we’re just embracing the hangover. On the stand this week: sleeping while sitting shotgun, knocking on doors at night, small talk while in a hurry, and early flights! Then! A worstie plays the blame game! Also, how is it November?🎟 Catch up to FOUR bonus episodes per month plus full video episodes over on Patreon:patreon.com/thefirstdegree❤️ The Heavy Metal Project: theheavymetalproject.com📸 Instagram: instagram.com/thefirstdegree🕺 TikTok: tiktok.com/@thefirstdegreee👤 Facebook: facebook.com/thefirstdegree⚖️ On the Stand: (818) 446-6889💩 Worst Thing You’ve Ever Done: (818) 446-6889🤝 Advice: [email protected]
11/2/202342 minutes, 30 seconds
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Episode 271: Huong Nguyen

On March 13, 2020, 42-year-old Huong Helene Nguyen is reported missing to the New Orleans Police Department. By 8:10 p.m. that day, the authorities discover her body less than a mile from her home. Huong’s killer shot her multiple times, shoved her body into the trunk of her own car, drove the car to a remote parking lot, and abandoned it. Investigators interview Huong’s family members and friends, but it seems as though no strong leads turn up. A week later, on March 20, Huong’s funeral services are held. Due to COVID-19 restrictions, only a limited number of Huong’s immediate family can attend. But Huong’s younger brother whom she lived with, 37-year-old Hoa Phong Nguyen, is conspicuously absent. Hours later, the NOPD announces that they have a warrant for Hoa’s arrest. He is being charged with his sister’s murder — and he’s on the run. In episode 271, Jac and Alexis examine the complicated path that the Nguyen family is forced to take as they navigate the physical and emotional loss of two children.🎟 Catch up to FOUR bonus episodes per month plus full video episodes over on Patreon:patreon.com/thefirstdegree❤️ The Heavy Metal Project: theheavymetalproject.com📸 Instagram: instagram.com/thefirstdegree🕺 TikTok: tiktok.com/@thefirstdegreee👤 Facebook: facebook.com/thefirstdegree⚖️ On the Stand: (818) 446-6889💩 Worst Thing You’ve Ever Done: (818) 446-6889🤝 Advice: [email protected]
11/1/202339 minutes, 27 seconds
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BONUS: KILLING TIME: MEMEOWEEN

The girls and the ginger return for a VERY spooky edition of Killing Time! We’re diving into the ominous origins of everyone’s favorite holiday! But first! On the stand: eating at the gym, meme costumes, the 12 foot Home Depot skeleton, and hosting a non spooky event around Halloween. Then! Another worstie with some roommate retaliation. Can’t we all just get along? Happy Halloween!🎟 Catch up to FOUR bonus episodes per month plus full video episodes over on Patreon:patreon.com/thefirstdegree❤️ The Heavy Metal Project: theheavymetalproject.com📸 Instagram: instagram.com/thefirstdegree🕺 TikTok: tiktok.com/@thefirstdegreee👤 Facebook: facebook.com/thefirstdegree⚖️ On the Stand: (818) 446-6889💩 Worst Thing You’ve Ever Done: (818) 446-6889🤝 Advice: [email protected]
10/26/202343 minutes, 22 seconds
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Episode 270: Rita and Colleen, Part 2

On November 3rd of 1993, 31-year-old Rita Marie Tangredi’s body is discovered on Long Island’s East Patchogue. Her cause of death is determined to be blunt force trauma to the head and strangulation. Only 18 days later, 28-year-old Sandra Costilla is found in a nearby location and in a similar fashion. Two months later, 20-year-old Colleen McNamee’s body is recovered from a nearly identical crime scene, as well. All three women were beaten, raped, and strangled. For over 20 years, their families waited patiently as their loved ones’ cases became colder and colder. Finally, in 2014, 48-year-old John M. Bittrolff’s DNA is connected to the murder of two of these victims: Rita and Colleen. In episode 270, Jac and Alexis detail how the authorities tracked down a serial killer with advanced DNA technology and nine bags full of garbage.🎟 Catch up to FOUR bonus episodes per month plus full video episodes over on Patreon:patreon.com/thefirstdegree❤️ The Heavy Metal Project: theheavymetalproject.com📸 Instagram: instagram.com/thefirstdegree🕺 TikTok: tiktok.com/@thefirstdegreee👤 Facebook: facebook.com/thefirstdegree⚖️ On the Stand: (818) 446-6889💩 Worst Thing You’ve Ever Done: (818) 446-6889🤝 Advice: [email protected]
10/25/202348 minutes, 23 seconds
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BONUS: KILLING TIME: WEDDING BELLS, THE FINALE

Welcome back to Killing Time hosted by two girls one ginger! This week, we’re getting the rest of our wedding shenanigans out of our systems! That’s right, the last and final installment of us going on and on nitpicking nuptials. On the stand this week: blister bandaids, soliciting free photoshop services, giving up and eating American fast food abroad, and audibly saying “this is awkward” during conversation. Then! Join us for some wedding-related listener submitted on the stands!🎟 Catch up to FOUR bonus episodes per month plus full video episodes over on Patreon:patreon.com/thefirstdegree❤️ The Heavy Metal Project: theheavymetalproject.com📸 Instagram: instagram.com/thefirstdegree🕺 TikTok: tiktok.com/@thefirstdegreee👤 Facebook: facebook.com/thefirstdegree⚖️ On the Stand: (818) 446-6889💩 Worst Thing You’ve Ever Done: (818) 446-6889🤝 Advice: [email protected]
10/19/202341 minutes, 5 seconds
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Episode 269: Rita And Colleen, Part 1

On November 3rd of 1993, 31-year-old Rita Marie Tangredi’s body is discovered on Long Island’s East Patchogue. Her cause of death is determined to be blunt force trauma to the head and strangulation. Only 18 days later, 28-year-old Sandra Costilla is found in a nearby location and in a similar fashion. Two months later, 20-year-old Colleen McNamee’s body is recovered from a nearly identical crime scene, as well. All three women were beaten, raped, and strangled. For over 20 years, their families waited patiently as their loved ones’ cases became colder and colder. Finally, in 2014, 48-year-old John M. Bittrolff’s DNA is connected to the murder of two of these victims: Rita and Colleen. In episode 269, Jac and Alexis detail how the authorities tracked down a serial killer with advanced DNA technology and nine bags full of garbage.🎟 Catch up to FOUR bonus episodes per month plus full video episodes over on Patreon:patreon.com/thefirstdegree❤️ The Heavy Metal Project: theheavymetalproject.com📸 Instagram: instagram.com/thefirstdegree🕺 TikTok: tiktok.com/@thefirstdegreee👤 Facebook: facebook.com/thefirstdegree⚖️ On the Stand: (818) 446-6889💩 Worst Thing You’ve Ever Done: (818) 446-6889🤝 Advice: [email protected]
10/18/202340 minutes, 10 seconds
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BONUS: KILLING TIME: WEDDING BELLS PART 2

This week the girls and the ginger return to round out their French festivity flashback with part two! We’re taking a break from our usual format and just ruminating on our favorite moments over the last couple of weeks. Nothing to put on the stand, and no worstie this week! Join us for a good old fashioned hang with friends!🎟 Catch up to FOUR bonus episodes per month plus full video episodes over on Patreon:patreon.com/thefirstdegree❤️ The Heavy Metal Project: theheavymetalproject.com📸 Instagram: instagram.com/thefirstdegree🕺 TikTok: tiktok.com/@thefirstdegreee👤 Facebook: facebook.com/thefirstdegree⚖️ On the Stand: (818) 446-6889💩 Worst Thing You’ve Ever Done: (818) 446-6889🤝 Advice: [email protected]
10/12/202344 minutes, 29 seconds
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Episode 268: Kenneth White

At about 8:30 p.m. on October 18th of 2017, 32-year-old Kenneth Andrew White is going home after working at a construction site in Au Gres, Michigan. Sitting in the passenger seat of his colleague’s van, Kenneth and his coworker are only ten minutes away from their destination in Mt. Morris. Suddenly, a six-pound rock crashes through the front windshield. Kenneth is hit in the head and knocked unconscious. Shortly after, Kenneth is declared dead. Days later, investigators discover the culprits behind this deadly rock: five teenage boys from Clio, Michigan, aged 15 to 17. The group was known for throwing hard objects off highway overpasses for the purpose of causing vehicular damage. After years of controversial court proceedings, only one of the Clio Five would be sentenced as an adult. In episode 268, Jac and Alexis examine how five teenagers with no criminal history killed an innocent bystander through a dangerous “game.”🎟 Catch up to FOUR bonus episodes per month plus full video episodes over on Patreon:patreon.com/thefirstdegree❤️ The Heavy Metal Project: theheavymetalproject.com📸 Instagram: instagram.com/thefirstdegree🕺 TikTok: tiktok.com/@thefirstdegreee👤 Facebook: facebook.com/thefirstdegree⚖️ On the Stand: (818) 446-6889💩 Worst Thing You’ve Ever Done: (818) 446-6889🤝 Advice: [email protected]
10/11/202347 minutes, 24 seconds
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BONUS: KILLING TIME: WEDDING BELLS PART 1

This week the girls and the ginger are back from France and ready to jump back into Killing Time! We’re breaking down our French festivities in part one of our wedding extravaganza recap! On the stand this week: ice and water, pillow allotments, and Etsy! Then Lex talks about her travel troubles and we get into the perils of partying in Paris! No worstie this week, we’ve got too much to talk about!🎟 Catch up to FOUR bonus episodes per month plus full video episodes over on Patreon:patreon.com/thefirstdegree❤️ The Heavy Metal Project: theheavymetalproject.com📸 Instagram: instagram.com/thefirstdegree🕺 TikTok: tiktok.com/@thefirstdegreee👤 Facebook: facebook.com/thefirstdegree⚖️ On the Stand: (818) 446-6889💩 Worst Thing You’ve Ever Done: (818) 446-6889🤝 Advice: [email protected]
10/5/202342 minutes, 22 seconds
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Episode 267: Robert Lovvorn Herren, Jr.

On April 17th of 1989, 31-year-old Cathy Marie Symanowski shoots and kills 38-year-old Robert “Lovvorn” Herren, Jr., with a semi-automatic rifle in Woodland, Alabama. Cathy met Lovvorn when he was hired by Cathy’s husband a few years earlier. At that time, Cathy and Lovvorn engaged in a short-lived romantic affair. Afterward, Lovvorn attempted to end his relationship with Cathy. In response, Cathy relentlessly stalked Lovvorn. In the spring of 1990, Cathy is convicted for murdering Lovvorn and sentenced to life in prison. In February of 2002, 45-year-old Cathy is released from prison on parole. Ten years later, in December of 2012, 54-year-old Cathy attempts to shoot and kill yet another one of her romantic partners: 68-year-old Gerald Eugene Palmer. Moments after this second murder attempt, Cathy dies by suicide. Miraculously, Gerald survives. In episode 267, Jac and Alexis explore the winding road that led one woman to hurt multiple men whom she claimed to love.🎟 Catch up to FOUR bonus episodes per month plus full video episodes over on Patreon:patreon.com/thefirstdegree❤️ The Heavy Metal Project: theheavymetalproject.com📸 Instagram: instagram.com/thefirstdegree🕺 TikTok: tiktok.com/@thefirstdegreee👤 Facebook: facebook.com/thefirstdegree⚖️ On the Stand: (818) 446-6889💩 Worst Thing You’ve Ever Done: (818) 446-6889🤝 Advice: [email protected]
10/4/202337 minutes, 57 seconds
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BONUS: KILLING TIME: JACS FACTS

The girls and the ginger have returned once again! If you follow our Killing Time episodes, you know that we like to call ourselves the “half facts podcast”. Well not today! Jac did her research, and she’s here to add more wrinkles to all of our brains! On the stand this week: snoozing, insufficient condiment amounts, big weather, and cake! Then! A young worstie poaches a partner!🎟 Catch up to FOUR bonus episodes per month plus full video episodes over on Patreon:patreon.com/thefirstdegree❤️ The Heavy Metal Project: theheavymetalproject.com📸 Instagram: instagram.com/thefirstdegree🕺 TikTok: tiktok.com/@thefirstdegreee👤 Facebook: facebook.com/thefirstdegree⚖️ On the Stand: (818) 446-6889💩 Worst Thing You’ve Ever Done: (818) 446-6889🤝 Advice: [email protected]
9/28/202348 minutes, 10 seconds
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Episode 266: Michael Thomas Garry

On September 14, 2007, a 52-year-old security guard is savagely beaten at his workplace in Cypress, California in the early hours of the morning and left for dead, later discovered by his co-workers. Everyone who knows the man, who has autism and passes away hours later, is shocked that something so violent could befall someone so gentle and unassuming. It’s clear the victim was fatally attacked during a burglary, but who could wish such grievous harm on someone just doing their job? At the same time, the net is closing in on the perpetrators, and it’s only a matter of time before everyone learns how the killer's paths collided with the victim. In episode 266, Jac and Alexis detail the callous murder of Michael Thomas Garry at the hands of David Joseph Zimmer and Sean Christopher Hodge, and how devastating being in the wrong place at the wrong time can be.🎟 Catch up to FOUR bonus episodes per month plus full video episodes over on Patreon:patreon.com/thefirstdegree❤️ The Heavy Metal Project: theheavymetalproject.com📸 Instagram: instagram.com/thefirstdegree🕺 TikTok: tiktok.com/@thefirstdegreee👤 Facebook: facebook.com/thefirstdegree⚖️ On the Stand: (818) 446-6889💩 Worst Thing You’ve Ever Done: (818) 446-6889🤝 Advice: [email protected]
9/27/202340 minutes, 39 seconds
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BONUS: KILLING TIME: MY WAY OR THE HIGHWAY

This week, the girls and the ginger return with a public brainstorm session. Each of us have to pitch a meeting for a television sitcom where we’re the main character. Alexis Nexus, Very Jeri, and Jac Vanek stars in My Way or the Highway. Anybody have a contact at Netflix? On the stand this week: truck nuts, Panera Bread, condiments sitting out at a restaurant, and TSA precheck! Then! A worstie cons a cheater!🎟 Catch up to FOUR bonus episodes per month plus full video episodes over on Patreon:patreon.com/thefirstdegree❤️ The Heavy Metal Project: theheavymetalproject.com📸 Instagram: instagram.com/thefirstdegree🕺 TikTok: tiktok.com/@thefirstdegreee👤 Facebook: facebook.com/thefirstdegree⚖️ On the Stand: (818) 446-6889💩 Worst Thing You’ve Ever Done: (818) 446-6889🤝 Advice: [email protected]
9/21/202346 minutes, 34 seconds
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Episode 265: Norah Rayne Smitherman

On November 4, 2021, a 17-year-old high school senior is shot in the head at a residence in Yadkinville, North Carolina. It’s a gut-wrenching loss not just for the young woman’s family and friends, but her entire small community who are in mourning for the high achieving student. The shooter is immediately identified in an incident that appears to be a tragic accident. But as more information emerges about their history, the true picture of their prior behavior starts to paint an ugly picture. With these new details, the victim’s family hopes for a swift and just outcome, proportionate to the crime, not anticipating what was to come. In episode 265, Jac and Alexis detail the horrifying murder of Norah Rayne Smitherman at the hands of her friend Jace Allen, and how, when the full picture is not taken into account, those left behind are only left to suffer more anguish.🎟 Catch up to FOUR bonus episodes per month plus full video episodes over on Patreon:patreon.com/thefirstdegree❤️ The Heavy Metal Project: theheavymetalproject.com📸 Instagram: instagram.com/thefirstdegree🕺 TikTok: tiktok.com/@thefirstdegreee👤 Facebook: facebook.com/thefirstdegree⚖️ On the Stand: (818) 446-6889💩 Worst Thing You’ve Ever Done: (818) 446-6889🤝 Advice: [email protected]
9/20/202338 minutes, 43 seconds
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BONUS: KILLING TIME: QUICKSAND

This week, the girls and the ginger are back, and we’re revisiting our childhoods. Specifically all the things we thought were going to be a much bigger problem in life. Quicksand, banana peels, DARE! On the stand this week: hanging shirts facing the same direction, felt hangers, doing things in direct sunlight, and variations of classic snacks! And then a worstie firstie by proxy!🎟 Catch up to FOUR bonus episodes per month plus full video episodes over on Patreon:patreon.com/thefirstdegree❤️ The Heavy Metal Project: theheavymetalproject.com📸 Instagram: instagram.com/thefirstdegree🕺 TikTok: tiktok.com/@thefirstdegreee👤 Facebook: facebook.com/thefirstdegree⚖️ On the Stand: (818) 446-6889💩 Worst Thing You’ve Ever Done: (818) 446-6889🤝 Advice: [email protected]
9/14/202347 minutes, 34 seconds
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Episode 264: John Cornelius Mcghee

On July 11, 2002, a 45-year-old man is gunned down in the doorway of his home in Bridgeport, Ohio. As far as local law enforcement is concerned, it’s a tragic home invasion gone wrong and nothing more. But all is not as it seems. And for a small town, identifying the perpetrator and their motive is not as straightforward as it should be. As the weeks, months, and years pass, conflicting and conflated accounts, and outright lies  put forward by witnesses cloud the truth. The killer remains on the loose, their identity obscured. However years later, the fight to unravel the truth and bring the victim’s assailant to account is not only renewed, but far from over. In episode 264, Jac and Alexis detail the baffling unsolved murder of John Cornelius McGhee, and the strength and courage of his daughter Madison who refuses to give up on finding justice for her father over 20 years later. 🎟 Catch up to FOUR bonus episodes per month plus full video episodes over on Patreon:patreon.com/thefirstdegree❤️ The Heavy Metal Project: theheavymetalproject.com📸 Instagram: instagram.com/thefirstdegree🕺 TikTok: tiktok.com/@thefirstdegreee👤 Facebook: facebook.com/thefirstdegree⚖️ On the Stand: (818) 446-6889💩 Worst Thing You’ve Ever Done: (818) 446-6889🤝 Advice: [email protected]
9/13/202351 minutes, 12 seconds
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BONUS: KILLING TIME: NOT TIM FERRISS

This week the girls and the ginger are back! One thing we will not be talking about is how we wake up and tackle each and every day! Spoiler alert! It doesn’t matter! You do you! We WILL be taking more listener submitted questions though! Also, on the stand: sponges, dosages, mixed snacks, and street tacos served on flour tortillas! Then! A worstie with a story we’ve dubbed the toilet paper caper!🎟 Catch up to FOUR bonus episodes per month plus full video episodes over on Patreon:patreon.com/thefirstdegree❤️ The Heavy Metal Project: theheavymetalproject.com📸 Instagram: instagram.com/thefirstdegree🕺 TikTok: tiktok.com/@thefirstdegreee👤 Facebook: facebook.com/thefirstdegree⚖️ On the Stand: (818) 446-6889💩 Worst Thing You’ve Ever Done: (818) 446-6889🤝 Advice: [email protected]
9/7/202348 minutes, 38 seconds
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Episode 263: Teresa and Rosanna

Late at night on Saturday, July 12th of 2008, 31-year-old Jacob Daniel Ethridge travelsto a section of Adams Avenue in Ogden, Utah, for the purpose of hiring a sex worker. There, Jacob meets 25-year-old Rosanna “Rosy” Marie Cruz. Jacob hires Rosy, accompanies her to an abandoned apartment building, and shoots her through the neck. Approximately 30 minutes later, as Jacob goes toward his vehicle to return home, Jacob meets 43-year-old Teresa Rene Tingey. Just as he had with Rosy, Jacob hires Teresa, travels with her to an isolated location, and executes her. When Jacob returns to his home in the early morning hours of Sunday, July 13th, he wakes his father and explains what he’s done. Together, the two men go to the police station where Jacob confesses. In episode 263, Jac and Alexis explore how a dangerous combination of anger issues, alcoholism, and psychotropic drugs could have contributed to one man making the decision to randomly murder two innocent women.🎟 Catch up to FOUR bonus episodes per month plus full video episodes over on Patreon:patreon.com/thefirstdegree❤️ The Heavy Metal Project: theheavymetalproject.com📸 Instagram: instagram.com/thefirstdegree🕺 TikTok: tiktok.com/@thefirstdegreee👤 Facebook: facebook.com/thefirstdegree⚖️ On the Stand: (818) 446-6889💩 Worst Thing You’ve Ever Done: (818) 446-6889🤝 Advice: [email protected]
9/6/202353 minutes, 40 seconds
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BONUS: KILLING TIME: FROG PRETTY

This week the girls and the ginger return with a true crime tangent! For some reason Jac wants to talk about beauty in relation to animals. I know. You’ll have to watch to find out. On the stand this week: eating in the bathroom, hogging weights at the gym, MOANING at the gym? And asking someone’s schedule without informing them why. Then! A worstie with some ingenious insurance insight.🎟 Catch up to FOUR bonus episodes per month plus full video episodes over on Patreon:patreon.com/thefirstdegree❤️ The Heavy Metal Project: theheavymetalproject.com📸 Instagram: instagram.com/thefirstdegree🕺 TikTok: tiktok.com/@thefirstdegreee👤 Facebook: facebook.com/thefirstdegree⚖️ On the Stand: (818) 446-6889💩 Worst Thing You’ve Ever Done: (818) 446-6889🤝 Advice: [email protected]
8/31/202341 minutes, 50 seconds
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Episode 262: Tyler Spann

On April 16, 2010, a 20-year-old man and his friend are on their way home when they pull a prank on a neighbor in Venice, Florida. Things quickly turn ugly - and deadly - when the unarmed young man is shot by his neighbor during what police describe as an altercation where the older man feared for his life. The victim’s family and friends are understandably devastated. But as news of the shooting ripples throughout the community, the public is outraged when they learn not only who the shooter is, but what transpires when his version of events isn’t as clear cut as everyone is led to believe. In episode 262, Jac and Alexis detail the shocking death of Tyler Spann at the hands of off duty deputy sheriff Carlos Verdoni, and the bigger question of how can we trust that the people employed to protect and serve us, won’t actually kill us instead?🎟 Catch up to FOUR bonus episodes per month plus full video episodes over on Patreon:patreon.com/thefirstdegree❤️ The Heavy Metal Project: theheavymetalproject.com📸 Instagram: instagram.com/thefirstdegree🕺 TikTok: tiktok.com/@thefirstdegreee👤 Facebook: facebook.com/thefirstdegree⚖️ On the Stand: (818) 446-6889💩 Worst Thing You’ve Ever Done: (818) 446-6889🤝 Advice: [email protected]
8/30/202344 minutes, 49 seconds
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BONUS: KILLING TIME: UNSOLICITED ADVICE

It’s time yet again to ask a girl, ask a ginger! This week we’re taking phone call submissions and doing our dangdest to dole out advice most of you never asked for. On the stand this week: slurpees, close-sitting, and non-emergency siren usage! Then! A room-raiding worstie!🎟 Catch up to FOUR bonus episodes per month plus full video episodes over on Patreon:patreon.com/thefirstdegree❤️ The Heavy Metal Project: theheavymetalproject.com📸 Instagram: instagram.com/thefirstdegree🕺 TikTok: tiktok.com/@thefirstdegreee👤 Facebook: facebook.com/thefirstdegree⚖️ On the Stand: (818) 446-6889💩 Worst Thing You’ve Ever Done: (818) 446-6889🤝 Advice: [email protected]
8/24/202343 minutes, 46 seconds
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Episode 261: Steve Fason

Late at night on Saturday, February 8th of 2020, 57-year-old Steve Ray Fason meets 22-year-old Sandra Marie Rappold for a discussion at his home in Bigelow, Arkansas. For weeks, Sandra has been hounding Steve by texting him, calling him, and showing up at his house uninvited. Sandra is convinced that Steve has committed crimes he had been acquitted of years ago. Finally, Steve decides to give Sandra what she wants: a conversation. The next day, Steve’s lifeless body is discovered at a neighboring business’s dumping grounds. Someone has stabbed Steve to death and burned his house down to destroy the evidence. When an anonymous tipster tells the authorities that Sandra is the culprit, Sandra immediately confesses to everything. Two months later, a second perpetrator is arrested. But, to this day, Steve’s family believes that more people were involved in Steve’s death. In episode 261, Jac and Alexis untangle the intimate relationships, alleged shady business dealings, and potential corruption surrounding the murder of Steve Fason.🎟 Catch up to FOUR bonus episodes per month plus full video episodes over on Patreon:patreon.com/thefirstdegree❤️ The Heavy Metal Project: theheavymetalproject.com📸 Instagram: instagram.com/thefirstdegree🕺 TikTok: tiktok.com/@thefirstdegreee👤 Facebook: facebook.com/thefirstdegree⚖️ On the Stand: (818) 446-6889💩 Worst Thing You’ve Ever Done: (818) 446-6889🤝 Advice: [email protected]
8/23/202358 minutes, 51 seconds
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BONUS: KILLING TIME: THE FOURTH DIMENSION

This week the girls and the ginger are once again asking you to reach for those tinfoil hats and join us on our quest to find extra-terrestrials! We’re breaking down some of the interesting UFO news we’ve heard recently! On the stand this week: Incandescent bulbs, uber sermons, premature table-clearing, and gin martinis! Then! A worstie trashes the place!🎟 Catch up to FOUR bonus episodes per month plus full video episodes over on Patreon:patreon.com/thefirstdegree❤️ The Heavy Metal Project: theheavymetalproject.com📸 Instagram: instagram.com/thefirstdegree🕺 TikTok: tiktok.com/@thefirstdegreee👤 Facebook: facebook.com/thefirstdegree⚖️ On the Stand: (818) 446-6889💩 Worst Thing You’ve Ever Done: (818) 446-6889🤝 Advice: [email protected]
8/17/202349 minutes, 10 seconds
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Episode 260: Phillip Brewer and Jody Fortuna

In September of 2016, 33-year-old Phillip Brewer, 38-year-old Jody Fortuna, and 37-year-old Michael Montano gather at a bar in Gillette, Wyoming. Years ago, the three childhood friends grew up near the same small Wyoming town. At some points in their lives, these men considered themselves like brothers. Now, as adults, the three men spend time together whenever they can. Drinking beer, going on fishing trips, and spending time outdoors. They all appear successful, with good jobs and caring families. But, on this particular September night, things take a turn for the worse. The next day, Michael’s girlfriend frantically wakes him up. Something has happened—something bad. A month later, in October of 2016, Phillip and Jody’s dismembered bodies are discovered on Michael’s properties, and Michael is arrested for murdering his two close friends. In episode 260, Jac and Alexis break down the facts surrounding the heinous murders of childhood friends Phillip Brewer and Jody Fortuna🎟 Catch up to FOUR bonus episodes per month plus full video episodes over on Patreon:patreon.com/thefirstdegree❤️ The Heavy Metal Project: theheavymetalproject.com📸 Instagram: instagram.com/thefirstdegree🕺 TikTok: tiktok.com/@thefirstdegreee👤 Facebook: facebook.com/thefirstdegree⚖️ On the Stand: (818) 446-6889💩 Worst Thing You’ve Ever Done: (818) 446-6889🤝 Advice: [email protected]
8/16/202359 minutes, 4 seconds
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PATREON EXCLUSIVE: MISSING: LAUREN SPIERER

After a night of partying with friends, a 20-year-old college student goes missing just before sunrise. There are thousands of tips and theories, but scant evidence. Police hit a wall, but not before the investigation splinters into many directions: the boyfriend, the friends, convicted criminals, a local biker gang and a suspicious vehicle that could be key to cracking the case. What will it take to finally crack this case?🎟 Catch up to FOUR bonus episodes per month plus full video episodes over on Patreon:patreon.com/thefirstdegree❤️ The Heavy Metal Project: theheavymetalproject.com📸 Instagram: instagram.com/thefirstdegree🕺 TikTok: tiktok.com/@thefirstdegreee👤 Facebook: facebook.com/thefirstdegree⚖️ On the Stand: (818) 446-6889💩 Worst Thing You’ve Ever Done: (818) 446-6889🤝 Advice: [email protected]
8/15/202335 minutes, 26 seconds
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BONUS: KILLING TIME: KEVIN GOES TO MARS

This week the girls and the ginger return for a little of this, a little of that. We’ve spent the last month or so on the road and dealing with the craziness of the LISK case, so this week we’re taking some time to fill everybody in on what we’ve been up to! On the stand: space probe names, wedge salads, sitting and looking, and handing the dinner bill to the man! Then! A worstie laughs in the face of authority!🎟 Catch up to FOUR bonus episodes per month plus full video episodes over on Patreon:patreon.com/thefirstdegree❤️ The Heavy Metal Project: theheavymetalproject.com📸 Instagram: instagram.com/thefirstdegree🕺 TikTok: tiktok.com/@thefirstdegreee👤 Facebook: facebook.com/thefirstdegree⚖️ On the Stand: (818) 446-6889💩 Worst Thing You’ve Ever Done: (818) 446-6889🤝 Advice: [email protected]
8/10/202346 minutes, 55 seconds
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Episode 259: Jhorden Clay

On May 3, 2023, 911 is called to respond to a 4 year old boy in Portland, Oregon, who’s unconscious after suffering a seizure. But it’s clear to first responders and medical staff that the boy has suffered significant physical trauma and neglect resulting from abuse. The youngster sadly dies in hospital from his injuries, despite his family’s hopes he would recover and pull through. When police begin investigating how this tragedy has come to pass, the terrible truth quickly emerges. The alleged perpetrator has a complex background of their own which only adds to the heartbreak and confusion everyone in the victim's life is feeling. In episode 259, Jac and Alexis detail the sickening alleged murder of Jhorden Clay, whose young life was taken far too soon, sadly making him yet another statistic in a brutal crime which in so many ways was entirely preventable.🎟 Catch up to FOUR bonus episodes per month plus full video episodes over on Patreon:patreon.com/thefirstdegree❤️ The Heavy Metal Project: theheavymetalproject.com📸 Instagram: instagram.com/thefirstdegree🕺 TikTok: tiktok.com/@thefirstdegreee👤 Facebook: facebook.com/thefirstdegree⚖️ On the Stand: (818) 446-6889💩 Worst Thing You’ve Ever Done: (818) 446-6889🤝 Advice: [email protected]
8/9/202343 minutes, 38 seconds
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BONUS: KILLING TIME: THEME PARKS

Strap in!! This week the girls and the ginger are seeking thrills! We’re talking about bizarre theme parks, and the many off-putting ideas people have come up with! Then! On the stand this week: forming a line, frogs as pets, holding the elevator, and gatekeeping local food! And finally, our worstie makes a key mistake.🎟 Catch up to FOUR bonus episodes per month plus full video episodes over on Patreon:patreon.com/thefirstdegree❤️ The Heavy Metal Project: theheavymetalproject.com📸 Instagram: instagram.com/thefirstdegree🕺 TikTok: tiktok.com/@thefirstdegreee👤 Facebook: facebook.com/thefirstdegree⚖️ On the Stand: (818) 446-6889💩 Worst Thing You’ve Ever Done: (818) 446-6889🤝 Advice: [email protected]
8/3/202345 minutes, 5 seconds
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Episode 258: Blaine Whitworth

On September 1, 2012, a 25-year-old man is gunned down in the driveway of his home in Warrensburg, Missouri. The college town is in a state of disbelief. The successful and beloved small business owner leaves behind devastated family, friends, and the wider college community in a senseless and seemingly random attack. When it’s revealed that more than one person is behind the slaying, and the perpetrators' identities are uncovered, the shockwaves continue, as the motive behind the killing emerges. But even after arrests are made, it’s far from over, with one of the accused managing to evade justice to this day. In episode 258, Jac and Alexis detail the brutal murder of Blaine Whitworth at the hands of his friends Ziyad Abid and Reginald Singletary, and how the people you have around you can sometimes be more dangerous than strangers.🎟 Catch up to FOUR bonus episodes per month plus full video episodes over on Patreon:patreon.com/thefirstdegree❤️ The Heavy Metal Project: theheavymetalproject.com📸 Instagram: instagram.com/thefirstdegree🕺 TikTok: tiktok.com/@thefirstdegreee👤 Facebook: facebook.com/thefirstdegree⚖️ On the Stand: (818) 446-6889💩 Worst Thing You’ve Ever Done: (818) 446-6889🤝 Advice: [email protected]
8/2/202351 minutes, 7 seconds
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BONUS: KILLING TIME: APHANTASIA

This week the girls and the ginger are back and we’re seeing things. Or are we? We’re talking about Aphantasia!! Is it real? Do we have it? Do you?! Let’s find out! On the stand this week: showing up at a restaurant right before closing time, pulp, walkway etiquette, and awkwardly stopping elevator conversation. Then! A worstie with a special divorce delivery!🎟 Catch up to FOUR bonus episodes per month plus full video episodes over on Patreon:patreon.com/thefirstdegree❤️ The Heavy Metal Project: theheavymetalproject.com📸 Instagram: instagram.com/thefirstdegree🕺 TikTok: tiktok.com/@thefirstdegreee👤 Facebook: facebook.com/thefirstdegree⚖️ On the Stand: (818) 446-6889💩 Worst Thing You’ve Ever Done: (818) 446-6889🤝 Advice: [email protected]
7/27/202339 minutes, 31 seconds
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Episode 257: Rex Heuermann: A Deep Dive

Since Rex Heuermann’s arrest on July 13th 2023, many people have come forward documenting bizarre encounters they have had with the alleged Gilgo Beach Killer. In todays episode, Alexis and Jac bring you the latest breaking news about the case, all told through the eyes of a woman named Nikki who got a little too close to comfort to the disgraced architect.📪: If you have a story about Rex Heuermann, please email us at [email protected]🎟 Catch up to FOUR bonus episodes per month plus full video episodes over on Patreon:patreon.com/thefirstdegree❤️ The Heavy Metal Project: theheavymetalproject.com📸 Instagram: instagram.com/thefirstdegree🕺 TikTok: tiktok.com/@thefirstdegreee👤 Facebook: facebook.com/thefirstdegree⚖️ On the Stand: (818) 446-6889💩 Worst Thing You’ve Ever Done: (818) 446-6889🤝 Advice: [email protected]
7/26/202350 minutes, 43 seconds
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LISK: Peaches and Baby Doe

On June 28th of 1997, the dismembered torso of a young Black woman on Long Island, New York. The torso had several distinct marks, including a horizontal 6” scar that was likely indicative of a C-section and a small, heart-shaped peach tattoo. Due to this unique tattoo, this unidentified Jane Doe became known as “Peaches.” More of Peaches’ remains were discovered on April 11th of 2011, during a massive search of Long Island’s Gilgo Beach. This search began after Suffolk County officers accidentally discovered four female homicide victims and determined Gilgo Beach was a dumping ground for the still at-large Long Island Serial Killer. While combing Gilgo Beach, investigators also found the remains of an unidentified girl between the ages of one and four. She is widely known as Baby Doe, and was later found to be Peaches’ daughter. In this bonus episode, Jac and Alexis provide the known information about these two unnamed victims in the hopes of helping their identification process.🎟 Catch up to FOUR bonus episodes per month plus full video episodes over on Patreon:patreon.com/thefirstdegree❤️ The Heavy Metal Project: theheavymetalproject.com📸 Instagram: instagram.com/thefirstdegree🕺 TikTok: tiktok.com/@thefirstdegreee👤 Facebook: facebook.com/thefirstdegree⚖️ On the Stand: (818) 446-6889💩 Worst Thing You’ve Ever Done: (818) 446-6889🤝 Advice: [email protected]
7/21/202318 minutes, 34 seconds
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BONUS: KILLING TIME: ASPIRE TO CONSPIRE

This week the girls and the ginger are breaking out those tinfoil hats yet again to dive into some quirky conspiracies. We’re talking CIA, John Lennon, and more! On the stand this round: speeding, listening to a band in the car after seeing them live, skipping the greeting at the register, and TIKI BARS! Then! A worstie tacks on an extra charge! Oh! The word of the day is FOIBLE.🎟 Catch up to FOUR bonus episodes per month plus full video episodes over on Patreon:patreon.com/thefirstdegree❤️ The Heavy Metal Project: theheavymetalproject.com📸 Instagram: instagram.com/thefirstdegree🕺 TikTok: tiktok.com/@thefirstdegreee👤 Facebook: facebook.com/thefirstdegree⚖️ On the Stand: (818) 446-6889💩 Worst Thing You’ve Ever Done: (818) 446-6889🤝 Advice: [email protected]
7/20/202347 minutes, 43 seconds
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LISK: State of NY v. Rex Heuermann

Jac & Alexis are back to give you a real time update of the developments of Rex Heuermann’s arrest and details of his bail application request. They chat about his google search history, bizarre evidence being confiscated from his house, and the possibility of more killers connected to the case. If you knew Rex Heuermann and want to tell your story, email us at [email protected]🎟 Catch up to FOUR bonus episodes per month plus full video episodes over on Patreon:patreon.com/thefirstdegree❤️ The Heavy Metal Project: theheavymetalproject.com📸 Instagram: instagram.com/thefirstdegree🕺 TikTok: tiktok.com/@thefirstdegreee👤 Facebook: facebook.com/thefirstdegree⚖️ On the Stand: (818) 446-6889💩 Worst Thing You’ve Ever Done: (818) 446-6889🤝 Advice: [email protected]
7/19/202355 minutes, 26 seconds
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LISK: Breaking News, The Arrest

Rex Heuermann was charged on Friday July 13th in the Gilgo Beach murders of Melissa Barthelemy, Megan Waterman and Amber Lynn Costello, all thought to be connected to the Long Island Serial Killer. Alexis and Jac are currently in New York, investigating the events unfolding in real time, and will be giving live updates in The First Degree podcast feed as they get them.🎟 Catch up to FOUR bonus episodes per month plus full video episodes over on Patreon:patreon.com/thefirstdegree❤️ The Heavy Metal Project: theheavymetalproject.com📸 Instagram: instagram.com/thefirstdegree🕺 TikTok: tiktok.com/@thefirstdegreee👤 Facebook: facebook.com/thefirstdegree⚖️ On the Stand: (818) 446-6889💩 Worst Thing You’ve Ever Done: (818) 446-6889🤝 Advice: [email protected]
7/15/202322 minutes, 44 seconds
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LISK: The Unidentified

After the Gilgo Four victims were discovered in December of 2010, detectives are looking for more victims of the Long Island Serial Killer. So, in the spring of 2011, law enforcement officers conduct a massive search of Long Island’s Gilgo Beach and surrounding areas. On April 4th of 2011, two sets of human remains are found: Jane Doe #6, later identified as 24-year-old Valerie Mack, and the yet-to-be-identified Gilgo Beach Doe. Though Gilgo Beach Doe’s remains were skeletal, forensic experts determine that they were Asian, between 17 and 23 years old, 5’6” tall, missing several teeth, and may have had a musculoskeletal disorder that affected how they walked. For years, officials referred to Gilgo Beach Doe as “Unidentified Asian Male,” despite evidence suggesting that Gilgo Beach Doe was a transgender woman. In this episode, Jac and Alexis share all known information about Gilgo Beach Doe to spread awareness about the unsolved LISK case.🎟 Catch up to FOUR bonus episodes per month plus full video episodes over on Patreon:patreon.com/thefirstdegree❤️ The Heavy Metal Project: theheavymetalproject.com📸 Instagram: instagram.com/thefirstdegree🕺 TikTok: tiktok.com/@thefirstdegreee👤 Facebook: facebook.com/thefirstdegree⚖️ On the Stand: (818) 446-6889💩 Worst Thing You’ve Ever Done: (818) 446-6889🤝 Advice: [email protected]
7/14/202313 minutes, 28 seconds
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BONUS: KILLING TIME: VIVA LAS VANEK

This week the girls and the ginger return with an epic recap of Jac and Jer’s bachelor/ette trip! What happens in Vegas apparently ends up on this podcast! On the stand this week: Saying “I don’t know who needs to hear this”, podcasts interrupted by map directions, double decker airplane seats, and dinner table intruders! Then! A worstie with a military-grade mistake! Enjoy!🎟 Catch up to FOUR bonus episodes per month plus full video episodes over on Patreon:patreon.com/thefirstdegree❤️ The Heavy Metal Project: theheavymetalproject.com📸 Instagram: instagram.com/thefirstdegree🕺 TikTok: tiktok.com/@thefirstdegreee👤 Facebook: facebook.com/thefirstdegree⚖️ On the Stand: (818) 446-6889💩 Worst Thing You’ve Ever Done: (818) 446-6889🤝 Advice: [email protected]
7/13/202352 minutes, 29 seconds
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Episode 256: Pseudocide

On June 14, 2021, 911 is called to respond to the scene of an accident in Green Bay, Wisconsin. In a local river, a vehicle is submerged, the driver having lost control after leaving a nearby parking lot. Sadly, it’s too late for the 37 year old man, who drowns at the scene. But not everyone who knows the driver is convinced about what happened. There’s questions about how the vehicle ended up in the water, and some of those close to the victim feel something isn’t right, especially when the cause of the accident isn’t made clear. With people in the man’s life feeling confused and overwhelmed about the nature of his death, and their unanswered questions, things only become more intriguing. In episode 256, Jac and Alexis explore the age-old phenomenon of pseudocide, and why not everyone who suddenly loses someone close to them always gets closure.🎟 Catch up to FOUR bonus episodes per month plus full video episodes over on Patreon:patreon.com/thefirstdegree❤️ The Heavy Metal Project: theheavymetalproject.com📸 Instagram: instagram.com/thefirstdegree🕺 TikTok: tiktok.com/@thefirstdegreee👤 Facebook: facebook.com/thefirstdegree⚖️ On the Stand: (818) 446-6889💩 Worst Thing You’ve Ever Done: (818) 446-6889🤝 Advice: [email protected]
7/12/202354 minutes, 19 seconds
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LISK: Getting to know Maureen Brainard Barnes

Ever since she was a little girl, Maureen L. Brainard-Barnes had a generous heart. From stray kittens to down-on-their-luck friends, Maureen was happy to share her money, living space, and more with those in need—often leaving herself with little. Born and raised in the southeast corner of Connecticut, Maureen ended her academic career at age 16 when she realized she was pregnant with her first child. With no high school diploma, Maureen set her sights on becoming a model. In 2004, Maureen posted her photos on a supposed “modeling” website and, inadvertently, began her journey into sex work. By July of 2007, Maureen only did sex work part-time to make ends meet when her notorious generosity created financial hardship. In this episode, Jac and Alexis break down how the threat of eviction forced Maureen back into sex work and left her vulnerable to the still-at-large Long Island Serial Killer.🎟 Catch up to FOUR bonus episodes per month plus full video episodes over on Patreon:patreon.com/thefirstdegree❤️ The Heavy Metal Project: theheavymetalproject.com📸 Instagram: instagram.com/thefirstdegree🕺 TikTok: tiktok.com/@thefirstdegreee👤 Facebook: facebook.com/thefirstdegree⚖️ On the Stand: (818) 446-6889💩 Worst Thing You’ve Ever Done: (818) 446-6889🤝 Advice: [email protected]
7/7/202316 minutes, 29 seconds
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BONUS: KILLING TIME: POKEMON GO TO JAIL

This week, the girls and the ginger have crawled their way back to the studio after July 4th shenanigans to bring you another episode of Killing Time! Today, we’re talking all things Pokemon Go! Misadventures by way of Pokemon hunting. Gotta catch em all! On the stand today: Going through people’s medicine cabinets, open-mouth wedding kisses, sneakers with jeans, and room temp food!! Then! A worstie pokes some holes, we’ll just leave it at that…🎟 Catch up to FOUR bonus episodes per month plus full video episodes over on Patreon:patreon.com/thefirstdegree❤️ The Heavy Metal Project: theheavymetalproject.com📸 Instagram: instagram.com/thefirstdegree🕺 TikTok: tiktok.com/@thefirstdegreee👤 Facebook: facebook.com/thefirstdegree⚖️ On the Stand: (818) 446-6889💩 Worst Thing You’ve Ever Done: (818) 446-6889🤝 Advice: [email protected]
7/6/202345 minutes, 17 seconds
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Episode 255: Richard "Doug" Douglas White

On March 1st of 2007, 46-year-old Richard “Doug” Douglas White prepares to close his small business for the day when two men enter his shop. The next day, Doug’s fiance,  44-year-old Dr. Brenda Kaye Covington, discovers Doug’s body. Doug has been beaten and shot multiple times. Over a year later, state prosecutors prepare for the trial of one of Doug’s alleged attackers, 21-year-old Marine A. Thompson. Suddenly, the case is mysteriously dropped. Apparently, a key witness who allegedly saw Marine and an unknown accomplice enter Doug’s business has vanished. Over a decade passes, and the Pulaski County Sheriff’s Office allows Doug’s case to go cold. However, local authorities confide in Doug’s fiance’s family that Doug was secretly embroiled in dangerous cocaine drug deals which may have cost him his life. In episode 255, Jac and Alexis explain why Doug’s friends and family need the search for justice to continue, despite Doug’s checkered past as a violent abuser.🎟 Catch up to FOUR bonus episodes per month plus full video episodes over on Patreon:patreon.com/thefirstdegree❤️ The Heavy Metal Project: theheavymetalproject.com📸 Instagram: instagram.com/thefirstdegree🕺 TikTok: tiktok.com/@thefirstdegreee👤 Facebook: facebook.com/thefirstdegree⚖️ On the Stand: (818) 446-6889💩 Worst Thing You’ve Ever Done: (818) 446-6889🤝 Advice: [email protected]
7/5/202349 minutes, 5 seconds
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LISK: Getting to know Amber Lynn Costello

On September 2nd of 2010, 27-year-old Amber Lynn Costello leaves her house to go meet a john for sex work. Her final words to her roommate as she leaves are, “If my sister calls, tell her I love her.” Three months later, Amber’s sister, Kim, hears the news that the human remains of four women matching Amber’s description have been discovered along Ocean Parkway on Long Island’s Gilgo Beach. When Kim submits her DNA, her worst fears are confirmed: Amber is one of the Gilgo Four and a victim of the Long Island Serial Killer. Before her death, Amber was a sensitive and caring woman caught in the destructive cycle of drug abuse. In this episode, Jac and Alexis shed light on Amber’s rich life and seek to understand how anyone could want to harm such a joyful person.🎟 Catch up to FOUR bonus episodes per month plus full video episodes over on Patreon:patreon.com/thefirstdegree❤️ The Heavy Metal Project: theheavymetalproject.com📸 Instagram: instagram.com/thefirstdegree🕺 TikTok: tiktok.com/@thefirstdegreee👤 Facebook: facebook.com/thefirstdegree⚖️ On the Stand: (818) 446-6889💩 Worst Thing You’ve Ever Done: (818) 446-6889🤝 Advice: [email protected]
6/30/202313 minutes, 19 seconds
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BONUS: KILLING TIME: ARE WE THE ASSHOLES?

The girls and the ginger welcome you back for another week of Killing Time! This week, we’re taking to Reddit to analyze some stories on r/AmITheAsshole. Also! On the stand: not knowing your drink order at the bar, marriage licenses, bad acting on a good show, and cheese on a protein. And finally, a worstie commits a hit-and-run on her own sibling!!! WTF?🎟 Catch up to FOUR bonus episodes per month plus full video episodes over on Patreon:patreon.com/thefirstdegree❤️ The Heavy Metal Project: theheavymetalproject.com📸 Instagram: instagram.com/thefirstdegree🕺 TikTok: tiktok.com/@thefirstdegreee👤 Facebook: facebook.com/thefirstdegree⚖️ On the Stand: (818) 446-6889💩 Worst Thing You’ve Ever Done: (818) 446-6889🤝 Advice: [email protected]
6/29/202348 minutes, 55 seconds
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Episode 254: Adrian Marshall

On July 29th of 1994 24-year-old Adrian Marshall was senselessly murdered. While there were early suspects, the leads fizzled out, which devastated Adrian’s parents. While the case went an unexpected call would breathe new life into the case more than 10 years later. While justice for Adrian seemed to be inching closer, the case was derailed in the 11th hour. On episode 254, Jac and Alexis speak candidly with the person who was closest to the main suspect- his wife at the time the murder occurred.🎟 Catch up to FOUR bonus episodes per month plus full video episodes over on Patreon:patreon.com/thefirstdegree❤️ The Heavy Metal Project: theheavymetalproject.com📸 Instagram: instagram.com/thefirstdegree🕺 TikTok: tiktok.com/@thefirstdegreee👤 Facebook: facebook.com/thefirstdegree⚖️ On the Stand: (818) 446-6889💩 Worst Thing You’ve Ever Done: (818) 446-6889🤝 Advice: [email protected]
6/28/202349 minutes, 56 seconds
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LISK: Getting to know Megan Waterman

Life wasn’t always simple for 22-year-old Megan Waterman. She was a single mother, in a relationship with a questionable man, and struggling to make ends meet financially. Luckily, Megan was known for making the best out of complicated situations. Throughout her entire life, Megan was a fiercely independent leader who supported those she cared about. Megan would do anything for her loved ones—and that was especially true for Megan’s 3-year-old daughter, Lily Waterman. When Megan began sex work in 2009, she did it for Lily. And, in 2010, Megan tried to stop doing sex work for Lily. In late May of 2010, Megan and her boyfriend traveled to New York City so Megan could practice sex work one final time. Tragically, Megan never returned home. In this episode, Jac and Alexis delve into Megan's life story and the circumstances surrounding her disappearance.🎟 Catch up to FOUR bonus episodes per month plus full video episodes over on Patreon:patreon.com/thefirstdegree❤️ The Heavy Metal Project: theheavymetalproject.com📸 Instagram: instagram.com/thefirstdegree🕺 TikTok: tiktok.com/@thefirstdegreee👤 Facebook: facebook.com/thefirstdegree⚖️ On the Stand: (818) 446-6889💩 Worst Thing You’ve Ever Done: (818) 446-6889🤝 Advice: [email protected]
6/23/202315 minutes, 8 seconds
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BONUS: KILLING TIME: WORLD RECORDS

This week the girls and the ginger are back with a record setting episode! We’re visiting the hall of fame of humans and their super bizarre achievements! It’s time for the weirdest world records! Then! On the stand this week: Mixing black and brown clothing, public pools in random places, disturbing somebody wearing headphones, and mandatory podcast paywalls! And finally, a worstie causes some mercurial mayhem!🎟 Catch up to FOUR bonus episodes per month plus full video episodes over on Patreon:patreon.com/thefirstdegree❤️ The Heavy Metal Project: theheavymetalproject.com📸 Instagram: instagram.com/thefirstdegree🕺 TikTok: tiktok.com/@thefirstdegreee👤 Facebook: facebook.com/thefirstdegree⚖️ On the Stand: (818) 446-6889💩 Worst Thing You’ve Ever Done: (818) 446-6889🤝 Advice: [email protected]
6/22/202345 minutes, 51 seconds
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Episode 253: Cynthia Cole

On February 24th of 2022, 57-year-old Cynthia Marie Cole of Jensen Beach, Florida vanishes into thin air. That morning, she’d walked on the beach. That evening, she’d attended a street festival with a few friends. But, by the next day, Cynthia is missing without a trace of evidence left behind. On March 1st, Cynthia’s friends and family report her disappearance to the local authorities. Within days, investigators discover Cynthia’s decomposing body inside her own septic tank. The process of extricating Cynthia’s submerged body is arduous and dangerous. When the police question those recently in contact with Cynthia, they immediately discover a suspicious character: Cynthia’s handyman and longtime friend 34-year-old Keoki Hilo Demich. From the evidence found on Cynthia’s body and Keoki’s own statements, he is ultimately charged with first-degree murder. In episode 253, Jac and Alexis cover the mind-boggling mystery surrounding Cynthia’s death and her killer’s potential motives.🎟 Catch up to FOUR bonus episodes per month plus full video episodes over on Patreon:patreon.com/thefirstdegree❤️ The Heavy Metal Project: theheavymetalproject.com📸 Instagram: instagram.com/thefirstdegree🕺 TikTok: tiktok.com/@thefirstdegreee👤 Facebook: facebook.com/thefirstdegree⚖️ On the Stand: (818) 446-6889💩 Worst Thing You’ve Ever Done: (818) 446-6889🤝 Advice: [email protected]
6/21/202345 minutes, 47 seconds
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LISK: Getting to know Melisssa Barthelemy

From the moment she was born on June 24th, 1985, Melissa Mary Barthelemy was loved. Between her mother, father, and siblings, Melissa was raised alongside people who truly cared about her. As a child, Melissa was recognized for her cleverness and charming smile. As a young woman, Melissa was respected for her independence and determination. After graduating high school in the early 2000s, Melissa went to cosmetology school and moved to New York City to become a hairstylist. Unfortunately, New York City’s notoriously high cost of living caused Melissa to struggle financially. That is until, one day, Melissa met a man who promised her quick, reliable money through sex work. As a result, on July 12th, 2009, Melissa left her Bronx apartment to meet a Long Island john. She was never seen again. In this episode, Jac and Alexis discuss Melissa Barthelemy’s heartbreaking story and her connection to the still-unsolved Long Island Serial Killer case.🎟 Catch up to FOUR bonus episodes per month plus full video episodes over on Patreon:patreon.com/thefirstdegree❤️ The Heavy Metal Project: theheavymetalproject.com📸 Instagram: instagram.com/thefirstdegree🕺 TikTok: tiktok.com/@thefirstdegreee👤 Facebook: facebook.com/thefirstdegree⚖️ On the Stand: (818) 446-6889💩 Worst Thing You’ve Ever Done: (818) 446-6889🤝 Advice: [email protected]
6/16/202323 minutes, 51 seconds
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BONUS: KILLING TIME: BEN FRANKLIN

This week the girls and the ginger return with an electrifying episode! It’s all things Benjamin Franklin! Find out what it takes to make it onto the 100 dollar bill! Spoiler alert, it’s a lot of weird shit! On the stand this week: separate sleeping zones on the same bed, Red Hot Chili Peppers, befriending birds, and crowdsurfing! Plus! A worstie firstie with a dinnertime diss!🎟 Catch up to FOUR bonus episodes per month plus full video episodes over on Patreon:patreon.com/thefirstdegree❤️ The Heavy Metal Project: theheavymetalproject.com📸 Instagram: instagram.com/thefirstdegree🕺 TikTok: tiktok.com/@thefirstdegreee👤 Facebook: facebook.com/thefirstdegree⚖️ On the Stand: (818) 446-6889💩 Worst Thing You’ve Ever Done: (818) 446-6889🤝 Advice: [email protected]
6/15/202351 minutes, 53 seconds
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Episode 252: Zadie Cooper

On July 4, 2016, 911 is called to respond to a 4 year old girl in Athens, Alabama, who’s not breathing. At the hospital, the youngster is placed on life support while her family hope and pray she regains consciousness. But three days later, with no hope of recovery, the little girl’s distraught parents make the heartbreaking decision to turn off her life support. A cause of death can’t be determined and there’s no obvious sign of injury. But those close to the family, as well as police, are starting to become suspicious. Nine months later, with the case still open, there’s a shocking development. When the killer makes themselves known and the circumstances behind the tragedy become clear, there’s answers, but the pain is not lessened. In episode 252, Jac and Alexis detail the devastating murder of Zadie Cooper, at the hands of one person who loved her more than anything in the world.🎟 Catch up to FOUR bonus episodes per month plus full video episodes over on Patreon:patreon.com/thefirstdegree❤️ The Heavy Metal Project: theheavymetalproject.com📸 Instagram: instagram.com/thefirstdegree🕺 TikTok: tiktok.com/@thefirstdegreee👤 Facebook: facebook.com/thefirstdegree⚖️ On the Stand: (818) 446-6889💩 Worst Thing You’ve Ever Done: (818) 446-6889🤝 Advice: [email protected]
6/14/202352 minutes, 52 seconds
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BONUS: KILLING TIME: BIG BROTHER

This week, the girls and the ginger are PARANOID! We’re here drawing some interesting conclusions between modern society and George Orwell’s dystopian social science fiction novel 1984. But first! On the stand this week: PB&J on wheat bread, hugging, ignoring crooked picture frames, and street sweeping! And finally, a familiar firstie shares her worstie.🎟 Catch up to FOUR bonus episodes per month plus full video episodes over on Patreon:patreon.com/thefirstdegree❤️ The Heavy Metal Project: theheavymetalproject.com📸 Instagram: instagram.com/thefirstdegree🕺 TikTok: tiktok.com/@thefirstdegreee👤 Facebook: facebook.com/thefirstdegree⚖️ On the Stand: (818) 446-6889💩 Worst Thing You’ve Ever Done: (818) 446-6889🤝 Advice: [email protected]
6/8/202352 minutes, 6 seconds
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Episode 251: Thomas Brackett

When you think of public places where children should all be expected to feel safe, school is one of them. Church is another. Sometimes in such spaces, it’s not uncommon to come across unusual, even weird people. But you can’t control who attends a school or turns up to church service on Sundays. Usually we can brush off interactions with these people as just odd encounters. But sometimes, people who make us uncomfortable come into our lives not only for an extended period but in a way involving close contact. If we’re lucky, they eventually drop out of their lives and we don’t hear anything about them ever again. But what happens when you receive sudden news that takes you straight back to your unpleasant memories of someone, and you learn they’re accused of the very thing you always suspected but could never confirm? In episode 251, Jac and Alexis detail the case of Thomas Brackett.🎟 Catch up to FOUR bonus episodes per month plus full video episodes over on Patreon:patreon.com/thefirstdegree❤️ The Heavy Metal Project: theheavymetalproject.com📸 Instagram: instagram.com/thefirstdegree🕺 TikTok: tiktok.com/@thefirstdegreee👤 Facebook: facebook.com/thefirstdegree⚖️ On the Stand: (818) 446-6889💩 Worst Thing You’ve Ever Done: (818) 446-6889🤝 Advice: [email protected]
6/7/202335 minutes, 26 seconds
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LISK: Getting to know Jessica Taylor

Today The First Degree is joined by Jessica Taylor’s cousin, Jasmine- who fondly recalls the details of growing up with her vivacious older cousin. Jessica loved to dance, she loved double dutch, and she loved to read… but most importantly, she was adored by her family.  In July of 2003, when Jessica was only 20-years-old, she was kidnapped and murdered by the Long Island Serial Killer. It’s been 20 years since she disappeared, which is the same number of years Jessica lived before her life was senselessly cut short. Today’s bonus episode is dedicated to keeping Jessica’s memory alive and exploring her place in the unsolved Long Island Serial Killer case.🎟 Catch up to FOUR bonus episodes per month plus full video episodes over on Patreon:patreon.com/thefirstdegree❤️ The Heavy Metal Project: theheavymetalproject.com📸 Instagram: instagram.com/thefirstdegree🕺 TikTok: tiktok.com/@thefirstdegreee👤 Facebook: facebook.com/thefirstdegree⚖️ On the Stand: (818) 446-6889💩 Worst Thing You’ve Ever Done: (818) 446-6889🤝 Advice: [email protected]
6/2/202321 minutes, 22 seconds
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BONUS: KILLING TIME: DOOMSDAY

This week get ready for another installment of Ask a Girl, Ask a Ginger! That’s right, we’re here yet again to offer some advice to some of our faithful firsties! But first! On the stand this week: instrumental interludes in songs, heating pads, the sidewalk salsa, and seeded grapes! And finally, a worstie with a sister secret you have to hear to believe! PLUS! It’s the end of the world as we know it!🎟 Catch up to FOUR bonus episodes per month plus full video episodes over on Patreon:patreon.com/thefirstdegree❤️ The Heavy Metal Project: theheavymetalproject.com📸 Instagram: instagram.com/thefirstdegree🕺 TikTok: tiktok.com/@thefirstdegreee👤 Facebook: facebook.com/thefirstdegree⚖️ On the Stand: (818) 446-6889💩 Worst Thing You’ve Ever Done: (818) 446-6889🤝 Advice: [email protected]
6/1/202345 minutes, 30 seconds
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Episode 250: Suffolk County Police (LISK Part 3)

On December 9th, 2015, the former Suffolk County Chief of Police James Burke is arrested for assaulting Chris Loeb three years earlier. Back in December 2012, Chris stole several items from Burke’s police vehicle, including a black duffel bag with an alleged homemade snuff film inside of it. Concerned that Chris would reveal the contents of his duffel bag, Burke struck Chris repeatedly and threatened to kill him. In November 2016, Burke is sentenced to 46 months in prison for his crimes. But, during the investigation of Burke, more of his corruption was revealed. From January 2012 to October 2015, Burke single-handedly slowed the progress of the Long Island Serial Killer case. He shut out the FBI, forced out detectives on the case, and stopped the searches for more victims. In episode 250, Jac and Alexis delve into how Burke could be responsible for allowing the Long Island Serial Killer to get away with multiple murders.🎟 Catch up to FOUR bonus episodes per month plus full video episodes over on Patreon:patreon.com/thefirstdegree❤️ The Heavy Metal Project: theheavymetalproject.com📸 Instagram: instagram.com/thefirstdegree🕺 TikTok: tiktok.com/@thefirstdegreee👤 Facebook: facebook.com/thefirstdegree⚖️ On the Stand: (818) 446-6889💩 Worst Thing You’ve Ever Done: (818) 446-6889🤝 Advice: [email protected]
5/31/20231 hour, 11 minutes, 58 seconds
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LISK: Her name was Valerie Mack

Valerie Lyn Mack was a loving sister, a caring mother, and a dynamic woman During her childhood, Valerie trekked from foster home to foster home for almost a decade. But, when she was nine years old, Valerie was adopted by two loving parents: Edwin and JoAnn Mack. Valerie thrived with the Macks. Her grades improved, she participated in theater, and she showed real leadership potential. But, throughout Valerie’s teen and adult years, she would struggle financially, battle drug abuse, and become entrenched in sex work. By the fall of 2000, 24-year-old Valerie stopped communicating with her family. Deeply concerned, the Macks attempted to file a missing person report for Valerie, but the New Jersey police refused. In this episode, Jac and Alexis will shed light on Valerie’s life and death, as well as the progress her case has seen over the past two decades. 🎟 Catch up to FOUR bonus episodes per month plus full video episodes over on Patreon:patreon.com/thefirstdegree❤️ The Heavy Metal Project: theheavymetalproject.com📸 Instagram: instagram.com/thefirstdegree🕺 TikTok: tiktok.com/@thefirstdegreee👤 Facebook: facebook.com/thefirstdegree⚖️ On the Stand: (818) 446-6889💩 Worst Thing You’ve Ever Done: (818) 446-6889🤝 Advice: [email protected]
5/26/202319 minutes, 32 seconds
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BONUS: KILLING TIME: DOWN YOU GO

This week the girls and the ginger are back to explore some post-life plans. Turning into a coral reef, maybe a tree? Get launched into the sun? Anything is possible with money! On the stand this week: tasting before ordering a flight, milk, businesses answering the phones with a simple “hello?”, and toe shoes!! Plus! A worstie with some toothbrush treachery!🎟 Catch up to FOUR bonus episodes per month plus full video episodes over on Patreon:patreon.com/thefirstdegree❤️ The Heavy Metal Project: theheavymetalproject.com📸 Instagram: instagram.com/thefirstdegree🕺 TikTok: tiktok.com/@thefirstdegreee👤 Facebook: facebook.com/thefirstdegree⚖️ On the Stand: (818) 446-6889💩 Worst Thing You’ve Ever Done: (818) 446-6889🤝 Advice: [email protected]
5/25/202343 minutes, 36 seconds
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Episode 249: Shannan Gilbert, et al. (LISK Part 2)

On May 1st of 2010, 23-year-old Shannan Gilbert gets into a black SUV with her hired driver and de facto security guard, Michael Pak. Shannan and Michael travel from New York City’s Manhattan to a wealthy gated community on Long Island known as Oak Beach. Shannan, a sex worker, enters the home of her client, Joseph Brewer. Three hours later, Shannan runs screaming from Brewer’s home. She calls 911 and, although she is sometimes incoherent, clearly conveys that someone is trying to kill her. By the time the Suffolk County police arrive on the scene an hour and a half later, Shannan has vanished into thin air. In episode 249, Jac and Alexis demystify how the search for Shannan became the unexpected catalyst that revealed the existence of the Long Island Serial Killer, nine murdered sex workers and a child, and the corruption within the Suffolk County Police Department.🎟 Don't want to wait? This entire 3-part series is available now on Patreon:patreon.com/thefirstdegree❤️ The Heavy Metal Project: theheavymetalproject.com📸 Instagram: instagram.com/thefirstdegree🕺 TikTok: tiktok.com/@thefirstdegreee👤 Facebook: facebook.com/thefirstdegree⚖️ On the Stand: (818) 446-6889💩 Worst Thing You’ve Ever Done: (818) 446-6889🤝 Advice: [email protected]
5/24/20231 hour, 39 seconds
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LISK: Getting to Know Shannan Gilbert

Shannan Gilbert was an aspiring actress, singer, and writer. After overcoming her tumultuous childhood, Shannan moved to New York City for her big break. In order to make ends meet while she began her career in entertainment, Shannan turned to sex work. On May 1st of 2010, 23-year-old Shannan Maria Gilbert went missing after visiting a sex work client in a gated community called Oak Beach which is located on Long Island. The ensuing investigation for Shannan would reveal ten sets of human remains and expose the Long Island Serial Killer. Although Shannan’s case is technically resolved, the Long Island Serial Killer has yet to be caught. In this episode, Jac and Alexis delve into the dynamic life of Shannan Gilbert, the mysteries surrounding the night she vanished, and the suspicions many have over Shannan’s supposed death by “misadventure.”🎟 Catch up to FOUR bonus episodes per month plus full video episodes over on Patreon:patreon.com/thefirstdegree❤️ The Heavy Metal Project: theheavymetalproject.com📸 Instagram: instagram.com/thefirstdegree🕺 TikTok: tiktok.com/@thefirstdegreee👤 Facebook: facebook.com/thefirstdegree⚖️ On the Stand: (818) 446-6889💩 Worst Thing You’ve Ever Done: (818) 446-6889🤝 Advice: [email protected]
5/19/202337 minutes, 37 seconds
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BONUS: KILLING TIME: HELLO DARKNESS

Grab a flashlight! This week the girls and the ginger are getting dark! That’s right! Radiation poisoning, humans birthing rabbits, dancing to death, being buried alive, OH MY! On the stand today: top sheets, joint bachelor/bachelorette parties, FaceTime selfie cam fixation, and leaving time left on the microwave! Then! A worstie spices things up!🎟 Catch up to FOUR bonus episodes per month plus full video episodes over on Patreon:patreon.com/thefirstdegree❤️ The Heavy Metal Project: theheavymetalproject.com📸 Instagram: instagram.com/thefirstdegree🕺 TikTok: tiktok.com/@thefirstdegreee👤 Facebook: facebook.com/thefirstdegree⚖️ On the Stand: (818) 446-6889💩 Worst Thing You’ve Ever Done: (818) 446-6889🤝 Advice: [email protected]
5/18/202348 minutes, 54 seconds
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Episode 248: Megan Waterman (LISK Part 1)

In the early morning of June 6th, 2010, 22-year-old Megan Waterman walks out of a hotel on Long Island and is never seen alive again. A week prior, Megan and her boyfriend, Akeem Cruz, traveled from Maine to New York for business purposes. Megan was a sex worker and Akeem was her pimp. Every few months, the couple would go to New York so Megan could meet with clients for sex work. Once they had made a suitable profit, Megan and Akeem returned home to Maine. But this time, Megan couldn’t go home. On December 13th of 2010, seven months after her disappearance, Megan’s skeletal remains are discovered on Long Island’s Gilgo Beach. Also found near Megan’s remains are the remains of three other victims. All four victims are female sex workers in their twenties. In episode 248, Jac and Alexis unravel how the Long Island Serial Killer, who is suspected to have killed as many as ten sex workers, has continued to evade capture for over twenty years.🎟 Don't want to wait? This entire 3-part series is available now on Patreon:patreon.com/thefirstdegree❤️ The Heavy Metal Project: theheavymetalproject.com📸 Instagram: instagram.com/thefirstdegree🕺 TikTok: tiktok.com/@thefirstdegreee👤 Facebook: facebook.com/thefirstdegree⚖️ On the Stand: (818) 446-6889💩 Worst Thing You’ve Ever Done: (818) 446-6889🤝 Advice: [email protected]
5/17/202348 minutes, 35 seconds
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BONUS: KILLING TIME: M’LADY

Hear ye, hear ye! This week the girls and the ginger are headed to the Renaissance Pleasure Fair! Lace up your tunics, sharpen your axes and join us for some medieval mayhem! On the stand this week: interrogating an only child, tramp stamps, rules, and turkey in general! Then! A worstie blames a buddy!🎟 Catch up to FOUR bonus episodes per month plus full video episodes over on Patreon:patreon.com/thefirstdegree📸 Instagram: instagram.com/thefirstdegree🕺 TikTok: tiktok.com/@thefirstdegreee👤 Facebook: facebook.com/thefirstdegree⚖️ On the Stand: (818) 446-6889💩 Worst Thing You’ve Ever Done: (818) 446-6889🤝 Advice: [email protected]
5/11/202350 minutes, 19 seconds
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Episode 247: Cindy Ching Stevens

On January 12, 2006, a 44 year old woman is shot at her home in Houston, Texas. The community is in a state of disbelief. The wife and mother of two leaves behind a devastated family in an attack that appeared to come out of nowhere. However, when friends and family come to learn the perpetrator’s identity, the shockwaves continue to ripple outward. On the surface, the killer is the last person you might suspect. But underneath a veneer of respectability and a happy home, the signs of deep discontent have been evident for some time. In episode 247, Jac and Alexis detail the devastating case of Cindy Stevens, and how struggles occuring behind closed doors can have far more terrifying, and sadly, deadly consequences than we could ever anticipate.🎟 Catch up to FOUR bonus episodes per month plus full video episodes over on Patreon:patreon.com/thefirstdegree📸 Instagram: instagram.com/thefirstdegree🕺 TikTok: tiktok.com/@thefirstdegreee👤 Facebook: facebook.com/thefirstdegree⚖️ On the Stand: (818) 446-6889💩 Worst Thing You’ve Ever Done: (818) 446-6889🤝 Advice: [email protected]
5/10/202346 minutes, 10 seconds
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BONUS: KILLING TIME: SAY WHAT?

This week the girls and the ginger return with some erroneous excerpts! That’s right, we’ve all been misquoting Marilyn Monroe this whole time. And Gandhi?! On the stand this week: misspelled names, naps, cohost couples, and night owls! Then! A worstie with a budget airline blunder!🎟 Catch up to FOUR bonus episodes per month plus full video episodes over on Patreon:patreon.com/thefirstdegree📸 Instagram: instagram.com/thefirstdegree🕺 TikTok: tiktok.com/@thefirstdegreee👤 Facebook: facebook.com/thefirstdegree⚖️ On the Stand: (818) 446-6889💩 Worst Thing You’ve Ever Done: (818) 446-6889🤝 Advice: [email protected]
5/4/202344 minutes, 55 seconds
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Episode 246: Sam Olson

On the evening of May 27, 2021, police in Houston, Texas, receive a report of a missing 5 year old boy. Everyone in the youngster’s family are beside themselves with worry and make public pleas for his return. A large scale search search operation commences, but as the days pass with no further developments, the outlook isn’t good. Finally a tip comes in. But when investigators follow up, it’s tragically too late. Only six days after the young boy is reported missing, his body is found in a motel room, and he’s died from blunt force trauma. The next day, the first of several arrests in the case is swiftly made, but everyone is stunned when the alleged perpetrator’s identity is revealed. In episode 246, Jac and Alexis detail the heartbreaking murder of Samuel Olson, said to be at the hands of someone in his close circle who, shockingly, was already a parent themselves.  Catch up to FOUR bonus episodes per month plus full video episodes over on Patreon:patreon.com/thefirstdegree📸 Instagram: instagram.com/thefirstdegree🕺 TikTok: tiktok.com/@thefirstdegreee👤 Facebook: facebook.com/thefirstdegree⚖️ On the Stand: (818) 446-6889💩 Worst Thing You’ve Ever Done: (818) 446-6889🤝 Advice: [email protected]
5/3/202349 minutes, 20 seconds
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BONUS: KILLING TIME: MOST LIKELY TO…

This week the girls and the ginger return with a quiz. Who’s most likely to get a tramp stamp? Urinate in public? And more! On the stand this week: The Hamburglar, Trader Joe’s parking lots, sandwiches for dinner, and meat mascots. Then! A worstie with a menstrual mishap! Enjoy!🎟 Catch up to FOUR bonus episodes per month plus full video episodes over on Patreon:patreon.com/thefirstdegree📸 Instagram: instagram.com/thefirstdegree🕺 TikTok: tiktok.com/@thefirstdegreee👤 Facebook: facebook.com/thefirstdegree⚖️ On the Stand: (818) 446-6889💩 Worst Thing You’ve Ever Done: (818) 446-6889🤝 Advice: [email protected]
4/27/202348 minutes, 49 seconds
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Episode 245: La’Reko Williams

On the evening of July 20th, 2011, 21-year-old La’Reko Antonious Williams goes to the movies with his girlfriend in Charlotte, North Carolina. As they prepare to go home using public transportation, the young couple begins arguing. The situation turns violent. Several bystanders call 911, and Police Officer Michael Forbes arrives on the scene. After a tense conversation, Officer Forbes commands La’Reko to get on the ground. When La’Reko doesn’t comply, Officer Forbes tases him in the chest. La’Reko falls to the ground, conscious but in pain. Then, Officer Forbes tases him for a second time. Minutes later, La’Reko dies from cardiac arrest. In the years to come, La’Reko’s family, community, and the Charlotte court system will try to understand if Officer Forbes’s second tase was excessive force. In episode 245, Jac and Alexis unravel La’Reko’s story, the dangers of Tasers, and the complexities behind police brutality.🎟 Catch up to FOUR bonus episodes per month plus full video episodes over on Patreon:patreon.com/thefirstdegree📸 Instagram: instagram.com/thefirstdegree🕺 TikTok: tiktok.com/@thefirstdegreee👤 Facebook: facebook.com/thefirstdegree⚖️ On the Stand: (818) 446-6889💩 Worst Thing You’ve Ever Done: (818) 446-6889🤝 Advice: [email protected]
4/26/202356 minutes, 46 seconds
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BONUS: KILLING TIME: 420

This week the girls and the ginger are dazed and confused about the origin of the term “420”. Follow us to the Mount Rushmore of reefer as we uncover the true meaning behind the numbers! Then! On the stand this week: cakes for Christ, capybaras, reclining your airplane seat, and the dodo! And finally, a worstie firstie you may have heard last week on accident! Oops!🎟 Catch up to FOUR bonus episodes per month plus full video episodes over on Patreon:patreon.com/thefirstdegree📸 Instagram: instagram.com/thefirstdegree🕺 TikTok: tiktok.com/@thefirstdegreee👤 Facebook: facebook.com/thefirstdegree⚖️ On the Stand: (818) 446-6889💩 Worst Thing You’ve Ever Done: (818) 446-6889🤝 Advice: [email protected]
4/20/202346 minutes, 19 seconds
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Episode 244: The O'Connell Funeral Home Murders Part 2

When the murders of Dan O’Connell and James Ellison had all but gone cold, new detectives caught a break while investigating a complaint made against a priest from the local church.  From there the case unraveled quickly, and culminated in another shocking death. Once the truth was revealed things in Hudson would never be the same, and the feelings of shock and betrayal still linger today.🎟 Catch up to FOUR bonus episodes per month plus full video episodes over on Patreon:patreon.com/thefirstdegree📸 Instagram: instagram.com/thefirstdegree🕺 TikTok: tiktok.com/@thefirstdegreee👤 Facebook: facebook.com/thefirstdegree⚖️ On the Stand: (818) 446-6889💩 Worst Thing You’ve Ever Done: (818) 446-6889🤝 Advice: [email protected]
4/19/202346 minutes, 4 seconds
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BONUS: KILLING TIME: PUMPKIN EATER

This week on Killing Time, the girls and the ginger are back and we’re diving into some cheating scandals that rocked our pop culture worlds! That’s right, cheater cheater pumpkin eaters! Scandoval, Shania, Tiger Woods! Then on the stand this week, we have reboots, old socks, and sun exposure! PLUS the sexual cowboy returns to prosecute pushy passengers! And finally, a Worstie gets ringtone revenge! All that and more this week on Killing Time!🎟 Catch up to FOUR bonus episodes per month plus full video episodes over on Patreon:patreon.com/thefirstdegree📸 Instagram: instagram.com/thefirstdegree🕺 TikTok: tiktok.com/@thefirstdegreee👤 Facebook: facebook.com/thefirstdegree⚖️ On the Stand: (818) 446-6889💩 Worst Thing You’ve Ever Done: (818) 446-6889🤝 Advice: [email protected]
4/13/202351 minutes, 30 seconds
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Episode 243: The O'Connell Funeral Home Murders Part 1

The city of Hudson, Wisconsin was rocked when Dan O’Connell and James Ellison were found gunned down in the office of The O’Connell Funeral home. The case would take years to solve and an array of theories tore investigators in several directions. The case was all but cold when a new lead emerged unexpectedly,  leading detectives right to the door of Hudson’s local Catholic Church. Tune in next week for part 2 of our coverage on this case. 🎟 Don't want to wait for Episode 2? Join us on Patreon:patreon.com/thefirstdegree📸 Instagram: instagram.com/thefirstdegree🕺 TikTok: tiktok.com/@thefirstdegreee👤 Facebook: facebook.com/thefirstdegree⚖️ On the Stand: (818) 446-6889💩 Worst Thing You’ve Ever Done: (818) 446-6889🤝 Advice: [email protected]
4/12/202356 minutes, 35 seconds
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BONUS: KILLING TIME: WORM RAIN

This week the girls and the ginger are back with more unsolicited advice in our new segment ask a girl, ask a ginger! But before we get to the throwaway therapy, we’ve got some bitchin’ to do. On the stand this week: overly nice drivers, men’s haircuts, regular rain, and worm rain. PLUS! A worstie minces words!🎟 Catch up to FOUR bonus episodes per month plus full video episodes over on Patreon:patreon.com/thefirstdegree📸 Instagram: instagram.com/thefirstdegree🕺 TikTok: tiktok.com/@thefirstdegreee👤 Facebook: facebook.com/thefirstdegree⚖️ On the Stand: (818) 446-6889💩 Worst Thing You’ve Ever Done: (818) 446-6889🤝 Advice: [email protected]
4/6/202348 minutes, 50 seconds
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Episode 242: Nicole Crystal Sinkule

On October 16th, 2005, the 25-year-old daughter of today's first degree guests had her life taken while she was asleep in her Oceanside, California apartment. The place where she was supposed to feel most safe. Nicole Sinkule's family and friends were beyond horrified upon learning the news... they were gutted, heartbroken and enraged. And while the perpetrator was quickly apprehended - the aftermath, his prosecution and eventual conviction were only the first steps in a long and painful battle to keep a monster behind bars.In episode 242, Alexis and Jac will tell you the story of Nicole Sinkule, how wonderful she was, and how you can help keep her remorseless killer in prison.HELP US KEEP NATHANIEL MARUM BEHIND BARS.Nathanial Marum's next parole hearing date is May 1st of 2023. Please email us a letter opposing his parole to [email protected]. These letters are essential in swaying the outcomes of these parole hearings. Thank you in advance for taking a few moments to help this incredible family.🎟 Catch up to FOUR bonus episodes per month plus full video episodes over on Patreon:patreon.com/thefirstdegree📸 Instagram: instagram.com/thefirstdegree🕺 TikTok: tiktok.com/@thefirstdegreee👤 Facebook: facebook.com/thefirstdegree⚖️ On the Stand: (818) 446-6889💩 Worst Thing You’ve Ever Done: (818) 446-6889🤝 Advice: [email protected]
4/5/20231 hour, 6 minutes, 42 seconds
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BONUS: KILLING TIME: APRIL FOOLERY

This week the girls and the ginger are talking all about pranks! That’s right, it’s spoof and goof season, and we’re going all-in on April fools. Come with us as we dive into not only the origin of the holiday but some of the most legendary leg-pulls of all time! Then! On the stand today we have: chicken salad, Vanderpump Rules, Selena Gomez, and new friends! We’re truly all over the place so settle in and get ready to kill some time with us!🎟 Catch up to FOUR bonus episodes per month plus full video episodes over on Patreon:patreon.com/thefirstdegree📸 Instagram: instagram.com/thefirstdegree🕺 TikTok: tiktok.com/@thefirstdegreee👤 Facebook: facebook.com/thefirstdegree⚖️ On the Stand: (818) 446-6889💩 Worst Thing You’ve Ever Done: (818) 446-6889🤝 Advice: [email protected]
3/30/202350 minutes, 39 seconds
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Episode 241: Jeff Wood

On January 2, 1996, a 31 year old gas station clerk is shot and killed on the job in Kerrville, Texas. The killer then forces his friend at gunpoint, who is waiting outside, to steal $11,000 in cash and checks. The men are quickly arrested, with the accomplice leading police to the murder weapon. Despite having no knowledge of the plan beforehand, the accomplice is charged with murder, along with the killer. What ensues is a nightmare legal battle for one man to prove that while he was at the scene and is proven guilty, he is not deserving of the punishment he faces. In episode 241, Jac and Alexis detail the murder of Kriss Lee Keeran at the hands of Daniel Reneau, who pulled his friend Jeffrey Wood down with him into a quagmire of deadly and unjust consequences, resulting in Jeff’s heartbreaking and ongoing fight for clemency.🎟 Catch up to FOUR bonus episodes per month plus full video episodes over on Patreon:patreon.com/thefirstdegree📸 Instagram: instagram.com/thefirstdegree🕺 TikTok: tiktok.com/@thefirstdegreee👤 Facebook: facebook.com/thefirstdegree⚖️ On the Stand: (818) 446-6889💩 Worst Thing You’ve Ever Done: (818) 446-6889🤝 Advice: [email protected] 
3/29/202356 minutes, 14 seconds
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BONUS: KILLING TIME: PIGEONS

This week the girls and the ginger are on a quest to discover the true meaning behind some phrases we all use day-to-day. Should be a piece of cake. Piece of cake? There’s a story behind that. Then! On the stand this week: PortaPotties, Premature bag retrieval, Lisa Frank, and the word MOIST! And finally, a Worstie with one of the shittiest stories we’ve heard yet!🎟 Catch up to FOUR bonus episodes per month plus full video episodes over on Patreon:patreon.com/thefirstdegree📸 Instagram: instagram.com/thefirstdegree🕺 TikTok: tiktok.com/@thefirstdegreee👤 Facebook: facebook.com/thefirstdegree⚖️ On the Stand: (818) 446-6889💩 Worst Thing You’ve Ever Done: (818) 446-6889🤝 Advice: [email protected]
3/23/202344 minutes, 42 seconds
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Episode 240: Jessica Berry

On July 18th, 2016, 32-year-old Jessica Loraine Berry gets into a red car with a friend. She is never seen again. Six days later, Jessica’s family reports her missing to the local police. Jessica’s family points them to a local veteran: 47-year-old Richard Allen Hurt. The detectives interview Richard briefly, but their investigation slows down quickly because Jessica is a known drug addict. Investigators suspect Jessica is not missing, and is keeping a low-profile during a drug binge. But on July 29th, Jessica’s remains are discovered. Her body was dismembered, stored in black trash bags, and hidden under a home improvement construction site. The homeowners found Jessica’s remains right before their handyman, Richard, was scheduled to pour concrete on the area. Richard admits to dismembering and hiding Jessica’s body, but refutes any involvement in her death. In episode 240, Jac and Alexis explore how Richard may have successfully evaded justice for Jessica’s murder.🎟 Catch up to FOUR bonus episodes per month plus full video episodes over on Patreon:patreon.com/thefirstdegree📸 Instagram: instagram.com/thefirstdegree🕺 TikTok: tiktok.com/@thefirstdegreee👤 Facebook: facebook.com/thefirstdegree⚖️ On the Stand: (818) 446-6889💩 Worst Thing You’ve Ever Done: (818) 446-6889🤝 Advice: [email protected]
3/22/202358 minutes, 59 seconds
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BONUS: KILLING TIME: OWN YOUR SHIT

This week the girls and the ginger are taking a brief look into the Scarlet Letter and the value of owning your shit! Speaking of, we’re starting a new segment to help you own your shit! Ask a girl, ask a ginger! Advice from your favorite non-qualified true-crime hosts! On the stand this week: illegally tinted windows, Diet Coke, crowding the baggage claim, and grocery store cart etiquette! Then, a worstie goes grinch!🎟 Catch up to FOUR bonus episodes per month plus full video episodes over on Patreon:patreon.com/thefirstdegree📸 Instagram: instagram.com/thefirstdegree🕺 TikTok: tiktok.com/@thefirstdegreee👤 Facebook: facebook.com/thefirstdegree⚖️ On the Stand: (818) 446-6889💩 Worst Thing You’ve Ever Done: (818) 446-6889🤝 Advice: [email protected]
3/16/202345 minutes, 58 seconds
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Episode 239: HitmanForHire.Net

On the morning of Saturday, September 16th, 2006, 51-year-old Essam Ahmed Eid and his wife, 43-year-old Teresa Engle, meet with 23-year-old mortgage broker Anne “Lauryn” Royston to refinance their home. As the meeting begins, Eid reveals his true intentions: he is a hitman, and he was hired to kill Lauryn. According to Eid, Lauryn can escape death if she pays him $20,000 within three days. The FBI and Lauryn work together to arrest Eid, the creator of a nefarious website under the domain HitmanForHire.Net. But Eid mysteriously disappears. Meanwhile, in Ireland, 43-year-old Sharon Collins hires Eid to murder her multimillionaire boyfriend and his two sons, so she can steal their family fortune. When Eid and his coconspirators bungle the assassination, the Irish police and US federal agents team up to take down this dangerous man. In episode 239, Jac and Alexis chronicle the misadventures of the unexpected culprits behind HitmanForHire.Net.🎟 Catch up to FOUR bonus episodes per month plus full video episodes over on Patreon:patreon.com/thefirstdegree📸 Instagram: instagram.com/thefirstdegree🕺 TikTok: tiktok.com/@thefirstdegreee👤 Facebook: facebook.com/thefirstdegree⚖️ On the Stand: (818) 446-6889💩 Worst Thing You’ve Ever Done: (818) 446-6889
3/15/202355 minutes, 31 seconds
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BONUS: KILLING TIME: BARBIE BLUNDERS

This week the girls and the ginger are toying around with the most bizarro Barbie blunders of all time! Then, on the stand this week: wacky wedding dances, toothbrushes in the dishwasher, making eye contact with TSA, and small talk before a favor! ALSO! A distracted driver avoids detention! All that and more on Killing Time!🎟 Catch up to FOUR bonus episodes per month plus full video episodes over on Patreon:patreon.com/thefirstdegree📸 Instagram: instagram.com/thefirstdegree🕺 TikTok: tiktok.com/@thefirstdegreee👤 Facebook: facebook.com/thefirstdegree⚖️ On the Stand: (818) 446-6889💩 Worst Thing You’ve Ever Done: (818) 446-6889
3/9/202349 minutes, 36 seconds
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Episode 238: Rebeca Peña

On April 10th, 2001, actress 26-year-old Rebeca Peña works on the film Muhammad Ali in Miami, Florida. Late that night, Rebeca leaves the set and drives to her Miramar apartment. No one ever sees her again. Six days later, fishermen find a suitcase floating in a Miami canal with Rebeca’s body inside. The police investigation reveals that Rebeca’s ex-boyfriend and the father of her child, 26-year-old Berkley Calvin Curtis Jr., may have been involved in Rebeca’s death. For years, Rebeca accused Berkley of physical and mental abuse. But Berkley is quickly cleared when his new girlfriend provides him with an airtight alibi the same night Rebeca was murdered. Berkley’s name is cleared. He moves across the country, raises Rebeca’s daughter, and starts a new family. But, 20 years later, on December 14th, 2020, the police arrest now 46-year-old Berkley. In episode 238, Jac and Alexis reveal how Berkley may have almost gotten away with murder.🎟 Catch up to FOUR bonus episodes per month plus full video episodes over on Patreon:patreon.com/thefirstdegree📸 Instagram: instagram.com/thefirstdegree🕺 TikTok: tiktok.com/@thefirstdegreee👤 Facebook: facebook.com/thefirstdegree⚖️ On the Stand: (818) 446-6889💩 Worst Thing You’ve Ever Done: (818) 446-6889
3/8/202352 minutes, 49 seconds
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BONUS: KILLING TIME: BODIES

This week the girls and the ginger are digging deep! About six feet to be exact! That’s right, we’re talking grave robberies! On the stand this week: calling women females, men calling themselves boys, awkward street crossings, and untidy spaces! Then! Mayhem in the mosh pit as one of The Maine’s fans calls in with a worst thing they’ve ever done!🎟 Catch up to FOUR bonus episodes per month plus full video episodes over on Patreon:patreon.com/thefirstdegree📸 Instagram: instagram.com/thefirstdegree🕺 TikTok: tiktok.com/@thefirstdegreee👤 Facebook: facebook.com/thefirstdegree⚖️ On the Stand: (818) 446-6889💩 Worst Thing You’ve Ever Done: (818) 446-6889
3/2/202354 minutes, 57 seconds
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Episode 237: Nina Viktoria Hilt

On July 2, 2005, 911 is called to respond to a 2 year old adopted girl in Manassas, Virginia, who’s not breathing. At the hospital, medical staff find the girl has suffered severe internal injuries. Not only are the injuries quickly determined to be suspicious, but they were sustained a full day before medical attention is sought for the toddler. Hospital staff quickly notify the authorities. It’s too late to save the young girl’s life, but when the heat is turned up on her mother, nobody anticipates the significant and far reaching ripple effect the full consequences will have, not just for the victim’s caregivers, but for thousands of families across the country who are desperate to be adoptive parents. In episode 237, Jac and Alexis detail the tragic murder of Nina Hilt, at the hands of the very person in her life whose job was to protect and keep her safe.🎟 Catch up to FOUR bonus episodes per month plus full video episodes over on Patreon:patreon.com/thefirstdegree📸 Instagram: instagram.com/thefirstdegree🕺 TikTok: tiktok.com/@thefirstdegreee👤 Facebook: facebook.com/thefirstdegree⚖️ On the Stand: (818) 446-6889💩 Worst Thing You’ve Ever Done: (818) 446-6889
3/1/202356 minutes, 59 seconds
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BONUS: KILLING TIME: BOTCHED

This week the girls and the ginger are back in the studio and we’re diving deep into the wild world of botched executions. Uplifting stuff really! But before we wallow in the gallows, on the stand this week we have some candy charges : mysterious strawberry treats, werthers originals, tootsie rolls, and ludens!! Then! Our first video worstie call! Join us!!🎟 Catch up to FOUR bonus episodes per month plus full video episodes over on Patreon:patreon.com/thefirstdegree📸 Instagram: instagram.com/thefirstdegree🕺 TikTok: tiktok.com/@thefirstdegreee👤 Facebook: facebook.com/thefirstdegree⚖️ On the Stand: (818) 446-6889💩 Worst Thing You’ve Ever Done: (818) 446-6889
2/23/202342 minutes, 5 seconds
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Episode 236: Sidney Ann Merrick

On Monday, September 26th, 1983, 21-year-old Sidney Ann Merrick drives from Salt Lake City to Park City, Utah, to run an errand for her boss. While heading eastbound on I-80, Sidney’s car breaks down. Less than an hour later, Sidney’s body is discovered on an off-ramp near Parleys Summit. She’s been stabbed to death. Eyewitnesses traveling along the freeway place 33-year-old Wesley Allen Tuttle at the scene. Tuttle is apprehended while trying to flee the country and swiftly convicted of first-degree murder. Shortly after, Tuttle escapes prison for five months. Then, the Utah Supreme Court changes Tuttle’s conviction to second-degree murder and significantly reduce his sentence. But, in 2008, new DNA testing proves Tuttle sexually assaulted and murdered another young woman: 14-year-old Lisa Lynne Chambers. In episode 236, Jac and Alexis explain how Wesley Allen Tuttle nearly escaped prison, the court system, and justice for over 25 years.🎟 Catch up to FOUR bonus episodes per month plus full video episodes over on Patreon:patreon.com/thefirstdegree📸 Instagram: instagram.com/thefirstdegree🕺 TikTok: tiktok.com/@thefirstdegreee👤 Facebook: facebook.com/thefirstdegree⚖️ On the Stand: (818) 446-6889💩 Worst Thing You’ve Ever Done: (818) 446-6889
2/22/202351 minutes, 32 seconds
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BONUS: KILLING TIME: BABERAHAM LINCOLN

This week the girls and the ginger are here with some fascinating facial hair facts. One in particular actually. The story of Abraham Lincoln’s iconic beard! It’s four score and seven shaves ago, and the story is certainly one you won’t expect. On the stand this week: voice notes, folded potato chips, mayo on fries, and stinkin’ it up at the gym. PLUS! A New Years kiss of death!🎟 Catch up to FOUR bonus episodes per month plus full video episodes over on Patreon:patreon.com/thefirstdegree📸 Instagram: instagram.com/thefirstdegree🕺 TikTok: tiktok.com/@thefirstdegreee👤 Facebook: facebook.com/thefirstdegree⚖️ On the Stand: (818) 446-6889💩 Worst Thing You’ve Ever Done: (818) 446-6889
2/16/202346 minutes, 20 seconds
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Episode 235: Oscar Alvarado

On August 22, 2010, a 22 year old Salvadoran man is repeatedly stabbed to death in the backseat of a car in broad daylight in Charlotte, North Carolina. Witnesses to the brutal slaying call in the attack to 911. Straight away law enforcement is sure this is a drug deal gone wrong. Later that day a 17 year old young woman and her 18 year old boyfriend are apprehended at a hotel, along with the murder weapon. At the time of the murder, Charlotte is awash with heroin, so officers aren’t surprised about the nature of the killing. But when the identity of one of the suspects in particular is released to the public, everyone is shocked beyond words. In episode 235, Jac and Alexis detail the murder of Oscar Alvarado Chavez, at the hands of Danielle Holmes and her boyfriend Jonathan Fitzgerald, and how the ravages of addiction can sometimes take us to the point of no return.🎟 Catch up to FOUR bonus episodes per month plus full video episodes over on Patreon:patreon.com/thefirstdegree📸 Instagram: instagram.com/thefirstdegree🕺 TikTok: tiktok.com/@thefirstdegreee👤 Facebook: facebook.com/thefirstdegree⚖️ On the Stand: (818) 446-6889💩 Worst Thing You’ve Ever Done: (818) 446-6889
2/15/202345 minutes, 1 second
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BONUS: KILLING TIME: THE VMA’S

This week the girls and the gourmand (Matt’s back!) are taking a trip to the golden days of award television, and we’re talking about all the crazy happenings on the VMA’s over the years. Then, Lex has TWO on the stand’s this week. We’re talking roombas, napkin skimping, TMJ, and… stairs? That’s right, Matt wants to get his steps in! Two Worsties today: one is short and sweet, the other is quite the opposite!🎟 Catch up to FOUR bonus episodes per month plus full video episodes over on Patreon:patreon.com/thefirstdegree📸 Instagram: instagram.com/thefirstdegree🕺 TikTok: tiktok.com/@thefirstdegreee👤 Facebook: facebook.com/thefirstdegree⚖️ On the Stand: (818) 446-6889💩 Worst Thing You’ve Ever Done: (818) 446-6889
2/9/202349 minutes, 22 seconds
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Episode 234: Ana Carrillo

On September 3, 2017, a 35 year old mother of three goes missing from Wyoming, Michigan, after failing to pick up her three children from her 38 year old ex-boyfriend’s house. The next day, when the woman still hasn’t made contact with anyone, her roommate reports her disappearance. As the weeks turn into months without any sign of the missing woman, the mystery deepens. Her family has their suspicions but can’t be sure about anything until a body is found. But when the killer’s identity and their motive for the murder is revealed, this is just the start of unraveling a network of individuals involved in protecting the perpetrator. In episode 234, Jac and Alexis detail the grisly case of Ana Carrillo, and how the most seemingly benign people from our everyday lives can sometimes turn out to be something straight from our nightmares.🎟 Catch up to FOUR bonus episodes per month plus full video episodes over on Patreon:patreon.com/thefirstdegree📸 Instagram: instagram.com/thefirstdegree🕺 TikTok: tiktok.com/@thefirstdegreee👤 Facebook: facebook.com/thefirstdegree⚖️ On the Stand: (818) 446-6889💩 Worst Thing You’ve Ever Done: (818) 446-6889
2/8/202354 minutes, 59 seconds
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BONUS: KILLING TIME: THE OREGON TRAIL

This week the girls and the ginger are heading west to discover all the different ways you can die on the Oregon trail! On the stand this week: the pronunciation of Oregon, not wearing shoes, barging onto an elevator, and excessive group texts! ALSO! Another worstie with a sexual sin! Hallelujah!🎟 Catch up to FOUR bonus episodes per month plus full video episodes over on Patreon:patreon.com/thefirstdegree📸 Instagram: instagram.com/thefirstdegree🕺 TikTok: tiktok.com/@thefirstdegreee👤 Facebook: facebook.com/thefirstdegree⚖️ On the Stand: (818) 446-6889💩 Worst Thing You’ve Ever Done: (818) 446-6889
2/2/202353 minutes, 43 seconds
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Episode 233: Lauri Waterman

On the afternoon of Sunday, November 14th, 2004, Carl “Doc” Waterman and his 16-year-old daughter, Rachelle Waterman, return home to small-town Craig, Alaska, after a weekend trip. But, when they enter their house, Doc and Rachelle notice something strange: an empty wine bottle, a wine glass, and no sign of Rachelle’s mother, 48-year-old Lauri Waterman. In a forest 40 miles north of Craig, local hunters find a still-burning Chrysler van with bones inside. Experts confirm they are Lauri’s human remains and that she was undoubtedly murdered. Law enforcement officials investigate Doc, the potentially cheating husband, and Rachelle, the rebellious daughter with a blog called My Crappy Life. But when Rachelle’s two 24-year-old lovers, Jason Arrant and Brian Radel, break under police questioning, the entire community unravels at what is revealed. In episode 233, Jac and Alexis expose the unexpected killers responsible for the assassination of Lauri Waterman.🎟 Catch up to FOUR bonus episodes per month plus full video episodes over on Patreon:patreon.com/thefirstdegree📸 Instagram: instagram.com/thefirstdegree🕺 TikTok: tiktok.com/@thefirstdegreee👤 Facebook: facebook.com/thefirstdegree⚖️ On the Stand: (818) 446-6889💩 Worst Thing You’ve Ever Done: (818) 446-6889
2/1/20231 hour, 1 minute, 31 seconds
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BONUS: KILLING TIME: HOLLY MADISON

This week, the girls are joined again by the one and only Holly Madison for a Killing Time of epic proportions! Turns out, Holly brought her own On The Stand, so we’re putting on the stand compact car spaces, Playboy bunny tanning stickers, and body glitter! Then for this week’s true crime rewind, we’re taking a deep dive into the sometimes dark and always intriguing inner workings of the Playboy lifestyle!Also - Don't miss Holly's new show "The Playboy Murders" airing on Discovery ID and streaming on D+. Premiering 1/23 and airing Mondays at 8/9 central.🎟 Catch up to FOUR bonus episodes per month plus full video episodes over on Patreon:patreon.com/thefirstdegree📸 Instagram: instagram.com/thefirstdegree🕺 TikTok: tiktok.com/@thefirstdegreee👤 Facebook: facebook.com/thefirstdegree⚖️ On the Stand: (818) 446-6889💩 Worst Thing You’ve Ever Done: (818) 446-6889
1/26/202355 minutes, 38 seconds
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Episode 232: Stacy Arthur with Holly Madison

Playboy is an internationally recognized brand and household name. Whether you were a fan of E!’s hit reality show Girls’ Next Door or whether your brother had a stack of playboys under his mattress- you’ve been exposed to Playboy. Considering the indulgences that the Playboy brand represents-- sex, money, women, and power-- it should be no surprise how many crimes are connected to the institution. And today, with the help of the incomparable Holly Madison, we're going to take you through one of them: the case of January 1991 issue's playmate, Stacy Arthur.Also- Don't miss Holly's new show "The Playboy Murders" airing on Discovery ID and streaming on D+. Premiering 1/23 and airing Mondays at 8/9 central.🎟 Catch up to FOUR bonus episodes per month plus full video episodes over on Patreon:patreon.com/thefirstdegree📸 Instagram: instagram.com/thefirstdegree🕺 TikTok: tiktok.com/@thefirstdegreee👤 Facebook: facebook.com/thefirstdegree⚖️ On the Stand: (818) 446-6889💩 Worst Thing You’ve Ever Done: (818) 446-6889
1/25/20231 hour, 10 minutes, 37 seconds
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BONUS: KILLING TIME: EDGAR ALLAN POEM

This week the girls and the ginger are waxing poetic as they learn some perplexing and polarizing facts about Poe. That’s right, Edgar Allan Poe. Did you know the dude was a lightweight? Anyways. On the stand this week: bathroom door disturbances, self-quoting poets, and sweet gherkins! PLUS! A firstie worstie with some poorly timed bad news! Get ready to snap those fingers, it’s a poem party!🎟 Catch up to FOUR bonus episodes per month plus full video episodes over on Patreon:patreon.com/thefirstdegree📸 Instagram: instagram.com/thefirstdegree🕺 TikTok: tiktok.com/@thefirstdegreee👤 Facebook: facebook.com/thefirstdegree⚖️ On the Stand: (818) 446-6889💩 Worst Thing You’ve Ever Done: (818) 446-6889
1/19/202343 minutes, 23 seconds
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Episode 231: Marcell Eads Jr.

On June 29, 2001, the badly beaten body of a 58 year old Native American man is pulled from his burning home in Wichita, Kansas. The victim has been robbed and left for dead before his attackers set the house ablaze. Within hours, police learn that an 18 year old man and a 16 year old teen may know something about the murder. As police talk to associates of the young men, and the victim’s own family, it becomes apparent that the perpetrators have committed a hate crime - they claim the victim, who was gay, made unwanted advances. When the evidence piles up against the offenders, it seems as though justice will be served. However, this is just the start of a long and painful road for the victim’s family. In episode 231, Jac and Alexis detail the heartbreaking murder of Marcell Eads Jr at the hands of Zachary Steward and his friend Brandon Boone.🎟 Catch up to FOUR bonus episodes per month plus full video episodes over on Patreon:patreon.com/thefirstdegree📸 Instagram: instagram.com/thefirstdegree🕺 TikTok: tiktok.com/@thefirstdegreee👤 Facebook: facebook.com/thefirstdegree⚖️ On the Stand: (818) 446-6889💩 Worst Thing You’ve Ever Done: (818) 446-6889
1/18/202357 minutes, 30 seconds
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Episode 230: Bennie William Schuck

In the early 2000s, the US Army opens a misconduct investigation on Bennie William Schuck II. Bennie’s teenage daughter is accusing him of sexually molesting her seven years ago when she was only five years old. But, when the Criminal Investigation Division struggles to secure an interview with the daughter, they close the investigation. Eleven years later, Bennie retires from the US Army as a respected Sergeant First Class. During his military tenure, Bennie was deployed twice, received multiple medals for excellent service, and was an esteemed expert among his peers. His record was spotless. But on August 8th, 2019, 45-year-old Bennie William Schuck II is arrested for creating and distributing child pornography with his girlfriend, 35-year-old Amber K. Talley. One of their victims is Amber’s 9-year-old daughter. In episode 230, Jac and Alexis discover the shocking truth behind why Bennie William Schuck II was able to escape justice for so long while working for the US Army.🎟 Catch up to FOUR bonus episodes per month plus full video episodes over on Patreon:patreon.com/thefirstdegree📸 Instagram: instagram.com/thefirstdegree🕺 TikTok: tiktok.com/@thefirstdegreee👤 Facebook: facebook.com/thefirstdegree⚖️ On the Stand: (818) 446-6889💩 Worst Thing You’ve Ever Done: (818) 446-6889
1/11/202355 minutes, 2 seconds
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BONUS: KILLING TIME: THE MOSCOW MURDERS

This week, we're releasing our Killing Time episode early to discuss the Idaho Murders. Jac and Lex will be discussing the strange details surrounding the case,  and what we know so far after the release of an affadavit on Thursday.🎟 Catch up to FOUR bonus episodes per month plus full video episodes over on Patreon:patreon.com/thefirstdegree📸 Instagram: instagram.com/thefirstdegree🕺 TikTok: tiktok.com/@thefirstdegreee👤 Facebook: facebook.com/thefirstdegree⚖️ On the Stand: (818) 446-6889💩 Worst Thing You’ve Ever Done: (818) 446-6889
1/9/202352 minutes, 55 seconds
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BONUS: KILLING TIME: DEAD CELEB ISLAND

🎟 Catch up to FOUR bonus episodes per month plus full video episodes over on Patreon:patreon.com/thefirstdegreeGreetings and Happy New Year Firsties! It’s our first Killing Time of 2023 and we’ve got a lot to talk about. On the stand today: multi-level Target stores, bottle service, small talk with your dentist, and byobh (bring your own bottle home). Then we’re doing a deep dive into the wild world of famous alleged celebrity deaths! Then, our Worsties call in with a pregnancy predicament and a dead mouse (not the DJ).📸 Instagram: instagram.com/thefirstdegree🕺 TikTok: tiktok.com/@thefirstdegreee👤 Facebook: facebook.com/thefirstdegree⚖️ On the Stand: (818) 446-6889💩 Worst Thing You’ve Ever Done: (818) 446-6889
1/5/202341 minutes, 31 seconds
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Episode 229: The Milwaukee Ave Massacre

On November 26, 1981, four men are killed and two others are wounded in a shooting massacre on Thanksgiving night in Chicago, Illinois. The murders make headlines as being the worst multiple slayings in the city in four years. In the coming days, police arrest four Mexican nationals over the killings, who also all happen to belong to one family. It soon emerges that the circumstances leading to the massacre are buried in a deep and ongoing dispute between the accused and victims families, resulting in bloodshed. But not everything is as buttoned up and clear cut as the courts make it appear. In episode 229, Jac and Alexis detail the murders of Valente Galindo, and brothers Ramon, Arnulfo, and Heliodoro Sanchez, and the lifelong, far reaching impact on the wrongfully convicted men in their case which irreparably changed lives forever.
1/4/202339 minutes, 1 second
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BONUS: KILLING TIME: NEW YEAR, SAME US

This week, the girls and the ginger are back to ring in the new year! That’s right, it’s the week after Christmas and nobody really knows what to do with their lives. Might as well put some final things on the stand. We’re talking resolutions, a midnight kiss, and cheap advent calendar chocolates. Next, a new segment! Reddit Said It! A deep dive into the blunders of internet strangers! And finally, a worstie firstie with a story we’ve named “Pee Bong”. Happy New Year!
12/29/202249 minutes, 11 seconds
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Episode 228: Dr. Ricardo Cruciani

From 2002 to 2017, 63-year-old Dr. Ricardo Cruciani practices medicine as an esteemed anesthesiologist, neurologist, and pain management specialist. He works in multiple renowned medical facilities where he treats patients with severe chronic pain by providing them with extremely high doses of prescription opioid painkillers. Cruciani’s work in pain management is widely lauded, and his peers consider him a gifted physician. But, in 2016, Cruciani’s employer receives eight complaints about his behavior. Reports indicate that he is sexually inappropriate toward his female patients. By September 2017, Cruciani is arrested on the charges of indecent exposure, indecent assault, and more. Dozens of former female patients come forward, claiming that Cruciani purposefully overprescribed them powerful painkillers so that they would develop an opioid addiction. Then, Cruciani leveraged his patients’ need for opioids to force them into unwanted sexual acts. In episode 228, Jac and Alexis delve into how Cruciani escaped justice for over fifteen years.
12/28/20221 hour, 1 minute, 3 seconds
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BONUS: KILLING TIME: CHRISTMAS IS CREEPY

Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays to all of you wonderful Firsties out there! Today’s Killing Time is all about spreading the holiday cheer, but first, we’re taking the elf off the shelf and putting him on the stand! Also, Mistletoe! Santa?! Adult gifting!? Then! We brought PRESENTS! Lots of presents! And finally, a Worstie Firstie with pants on fire. Yule laugh, yule cry, but whatever you do, don’t shoot out your eye!
12/22/202254 minutes, 45 seconds
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Episode 227: Udoamaka Nwamu, Kaliyah Ratliff & Nikita Green

On June 6, 2021, a 24 year old woman and her 46 year old mother are shot to death inside the older woman’s home in Douglasville, Georgia by an intruder. The sudden and brutal double murder destroys the lives of the women’s families. The younger woman had recently moved back home following the breakdown of her marriage, and was finding her feet outside the relationship. Sadly for the grieving families involved, there will be no resolution, no closure, no retribution, no punishment, and no justice. Because the killer, who’s well known to his victims, takes his own life at the scene. In episode 227, Jac and Alexis detail the double murder of Nikita Green and Kaliyah Ratliff at the hands of Kaliyah’s estranged husband Udoamaku Nwamu, and how the different faces that perpetrators of domestic abuse can present to the world often leave us only with painful questions and no answers.
12/21/202248 minutes, 54 seconds
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BONUS: KILLING TIME: BABY ONE MORE TIME

This week the girls and the ginger become song sleuths to uncover the true meaning behind those sugary pop anthems from the 90’s and beyond! From Barbie Girl to Britney, it’s time to learn what we’ve all actually been singing about. Then! On The Stand heats up with cold leftovers, stork signs, nausea and more! PLUS! A worstie puts a lunch thief in their place with a spicy surprise!
12/15/202241 minutes, 8 seconds
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Episode 226: Mayra De Loa

On December 20, 2003, a 19 year old college student is stabbed 19 times outside an apartment complex in Garland, Texas. It’s a heartbreaking loss for the family and friends of a young woman who had such promise. The victim was an intelligent, ambitious sophomore and talented flutist who played in her university’s renowned marching band. Thankfully, her killer is apprehended at the scene and confesses not long after. But the pain and trauma continues when the attacker tries to plead insanity, despite him telling others of his plans in the weeks leading up to the murder. In episode 226, Jac and Alexis detail the tragic murder of Mayra De Loa at the hands of her ex-boyfriend Paul David Milne, and what happens when the people who are supposed to love us the way they say they do, make the cruel and selfish choice to take away our right to live our life on our own terms.
12/14/202240 minutes, 8 seconds
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BONUS: KILLING TIME: LIKE, LITERALLY!

This week the girls and the ginger are talking about some pretty unbelievable real life crimes that were inspired by fiction! John Lennon, Dexter, Stephen King, Vampires!! It’s all here! On the stand this week: waiting in lines! Watching tv with captions! MORNING SHRIMP?!?! Plus! A worstie firstie with a poster prank that will leave you perplexed!
12/8/202241 minutes, 43 seconds
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Episode 225: Dawsyn, reclaimed

Anyone who has been abused or harmed deserves justice. The kind of justice validated by a courtroom trial and a guilty verdict. But our justice system is an imperfect one. Not everyone’s monster gets punished. Today’s story will show you that a lack of courtroom justice doesn’t mean failure. We’re in control of how we prevail over trauma. And every monster is responsible for the crimes they commit- even if they escape the law.
12/7/202251 minutes, 30 seconds
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BONUS: KILLING TIME: BAKKER’S BUCKETS

Strap yourself IN because this week we’ve died and gone to heaven! If you’re reading this, you’ve been left behind! But good news! Televangelist Jim Bakker has you covered! Step right up and learn all about his wild transition from Pastor to Prepper! And for our lucky Patreon subscribers, you get to watch it all unfold on video! Our first ever from our new studio!
12/1/202249 minutes, 51 seconds
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Episode 224: Anna Marie Emry

On August 13th, 1994, a 9-year-old little girl is snatched from her bed in the middle of the night. Hundreds of volunteers sweep the cornfields of Brighton, Iowa, desperate to locate the little girl. Local law enforcement exhaust their every resource to find her: canine units, helicopters, off-road vehicles, over 500 missing child posters, internet forums, and more. But no matter how hard they look, investigators only discover one clue: a screen door that was removed from its tracks and placed outside the house where the little girl was sleeping. After five days of searching with nothing to show for it, the little girl’s family, the police, and local residents are losing hope. Until, suddenly, the very same man who installed the dismantled screen door confesses. In episode 224, Jac and Alexis explain how Lary Lane Morgan shattered his friends’ trust and destroyed the safety of an entire community when he kidnapped, sexually assaulted, and murdered Anna Marie Emry.
11/30/202259 minutes, 9 seconds
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BONUS: KILLING TIME: OL DUSTY BIRD

This week the girls and the ginger are unbuttoning their pants, laying back, and letting the tryptophan take the wheel. It’s turkey time, and even though we’re super thankful for so much, there’s plenty of bones we have left to pick. Dark meat vs. light meat, talking to your Uber driver, and non-bird related Thanksgiving dinners. Then, it’s time for some terrible turkey related worstie calls!
11/24/202246 minutes, 11 seconds
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Episode 223: Nicki Peterson

On May 19, 2022, a 40 year old woman is shot outside her house in Pleasant Grove, Utah. Everyone in the community is in disbelief. Despite almost losing her life during a brutal assault by an abuser, struggling with addiction, and living with domestic violence, the victim’s life has turned around in the months before her death. She’s recently married, and dedicates her time to helping victims of domestic trafficking reclaim their bodies and lives. When friends and family learn the killer’s identity, it’s the last person they'd ever have suspected. In episode 223, Jac and Alexis detail the devastating case of Nicki Peterson, and how the choices made by those we think we can love and trust can be more dangerous than the people we truly have reason to fear.
11/23/202243 minutes, 28 seconds
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BONUS: KILLING TIME: NIPPLEGATE

This week the girls and the ginger are back and ready to expose themselves… to the horrors of live TV moments gone wrong! Plus, kids on the internet, peeing in the shower, popcorn, and calories on a menu! Get your gavels out, On The Stand is all over the place this week. PLUS! Sexual revenge, and a babysitter gone rogue!
11/17/202246 minutes, 59 seconds
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Episode 222: The River Parishes Serial Killer

On October 17, 1996, a 41 year old repair shop owner and father of three is bludgeoned to death at his home in St Amant, Louisiana, by an intruder. The killer leaves a bloody baseball bat in the victims’ bathtub, but there appears to be little forensic evidence indicating who’s responsible. For detectives, without any leads or solid direct evidence, it seems a confession will be the only way to solve the case. It won’t be until over a year later, in November 1997, that law enforcement would apprehend the killer. Tragically, by this stage he’d killed another five people. In episode 222, Jac and Alexis detail the chilling case of Daniel Blank, a violent offender who became known as the River Parishes Serial Killer, and had older residents of this small region of Louisiana living in fear.
11/16/202245 minutes, 12 seconds
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BONUS: KILLING TIME: THE SINS OF SESAME

This week the girls and the ginger are back to take a walk on the dark side of Sesame Street! Also, one, two, three (AH AH AH!) On The Stands about the invasion of personal space. Finally, saddle up because the sexual cowboy is back with a firstie worstie that leaves Jac and Lex thirsty.
11/10/202245 minutes, 51 seconds
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Episode 221: Chester The Molester

In 1984, 13-year-old Allison Tinsley moves out of her abusive mother’s home in South Carolina. Like a real-life fairytale, Allison is going to live with her rich and loving father, 36-year-old Dwaine Tinsley, in Los Angeles. It's perfect, until one day Dwaine sneaks into Allison’s bedroom and molests her. From then on, for five years, Dwaine would sexually abuse Allison multiple times a week. All the while, Dwaine was the creator of Hustler magazine’s Chester the Molester comic strip, which depicts a perverted old man who tricks little girls into having sex with him. In 1989, Allison informs the police of her father’s abuse, and Dwaine is sentenced to six years in prison. But due to a technicality, his conviction is overturned after two years. In episode 221, Jac and Alexis analyze the complex culture of Hustler magazine and how Dwaine Tinsley hid in plain sight for far too long.Buy Allison’s book here: https://www.allisonunchained.com/
11/9/20221 hour, 8 minutes, 46 seconds
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BONUS: KILLING TIME: OH NO-VEMBER!!!

This week the girls and the ginger are back with an astrological adventure into the month of November. Step right up and find out why we should all be more afraid of babies conceived on Valentine’s day! The courtroom is packed this week with more airplane related on the stand’s, and Alexis has a bone to pick with canned cran. Plus! A Worstie call to end them all. Also! Don’t miss our first ever freestyle Costanza Stanza!
11/3/202248 minutes, 18 seconds
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Episode 220: Garland Joseph Nelson

On July 21, 2019, two brothers from Wisconsin aged in their twenties and thirties go missing after visiting a rural property outside Braymer, Missouri. In the following days, police learn that a 25 year old cattle farmer from the Braymer area may know something about the disappearances. He admits to driving the vehicle the brothers took to the farm, but he hasn’t seen them since. When human remains are discovered at the site 10 days after the brothers were last seen, police realize the truth behind the brothers disappearance is darker than they could have imagined. It’s not long before investigators zero in on the cattle farmer, who owes the brothers a six figure sum. In episode 220, Jac and Alexis detail the murders of the Diemel brothers, Nicholas and Justin, at the hands of Garland ‘Joey’ Nelson, and the lengths he went to to avoid repaying his debt.
11/2/202255 minutes, 56 seconds
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BONUS: KILLING TIME: OOH, PIECE OF CANDY!

This week the girls and the ginger are knocking on your doors and they want candy. That’s right, we’re talking about treacherous trick-or-treats. Also, we debate non-sexy Halloween costumes, Halloween weddings, and getting your Christmas all mixed into your Halloween. PLUS! A chaotic worstie pulls on a prank on a penis. All that and more this week on Killing Time!
10/27/202243 minutes, 55 seconds
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Episode 219: Chris Northon

On October 8th, 2000, 44-year-old Chris Northon is camping in Oregon with his wife, 38-year-old Liysa, and their 3-year-old son. After four years of marriage, Chris and Liysa were no longer happy. Both Chris and Liysa hoped that this weekend getaway could help mend their relationship’s troubles. But when Liysa confronts Chris about his poor behavior and substance abuse, the couple trade harsh words—and blows. That night, Liysa uses her .38-caliber revolver to shoot Chris in the head while he is asleep in his sleeping bag. At trial, Liysa reveals that Chris abused her, physically and emotionally, for years. But when unexpected evidence appears mid-trial, Liysa goes to prison for 12 years with a plea deal. Controversy is sparked years later when prolific true crime author Ann Rule covers the case in her best-selling novel Heart Full of Lies. In episode 219, Jac and Alexis explore the tangled web of lies surrounding Chris Northon’s death.
10/26/202258 minutes, 55 seconds
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BONUS: KILLING TIME: ITS CRYPTOZOOLOGY SZN

That’s right, the girls and the ginger are learning all about those spooky-maybe-real-maybe-not-animals like the classic Big Foot. They debate Southwest Airlines, broccoli stalks, and the complexities of apartment neighbored relationships. Also, did you know Big Foot had boobs? Now you do!
10/20/202254 minutes, 37 seconds
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Episode 218: Matthew Trecker

On November 29, 1996, two young men in Farmington, New Mexico, are murdered and mutliated inside a downtown business known as The Eclectic. At first it seems like a robbery gone wrong, but investigators soon deduce it’s more serious. However, despite the brutal nature of the crime, law enforcement is unable to pin down a suspect, and the city is on edge. It wouldn’t be until 4 years later, in December 2000, that investigators would apprehend the killers. Tragically, by this stage, one of the men had killed at least two more people, both from the Navajo nation, and was facing two additional trials. In episode 218, Jac and Alexis detail the frightening case of Robert Fry, a disturbed offender who over several years terrorised the northwest of New Mexico.
10/19/20221 hour, 3 minutes, 2 seconds
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BONUS: KILLING TIME: BEANBOOZLED

This week the girls and the gourmand (Matt) are back with a stomach-turning adventure! That's right, we're talking the worst of the worst when it comes to jellybean flavors. Also! Is it okay to have more than one Halloween costume? What about free candy? We're getting into it with this week's On The Stand. PLUS! (and this one really doesn't fit the theme) A pants-wetting worstie. Enjoy!
10/13/202256 minutes, 50 seconds
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Episode 217: Hope Parks

On August 18, 2020, a 44 year old mother of two goes missing from Crawfordsville, Indiana, after a heated argument with her husband. Two days later, when she hasn’t returned home, her husband reports her disappearance. The same day, a sickening discovery is made just outside town, but the mystery only deepens. If the victim met her killer after leaving her home, law enforcement is in a race against the clock to find the person responsible before they strike again. But when the real killer is identified, and the motive for the murder is revealed, it’s as disturbing as it is incomprehensible. In episode 217, Jac and Alexis detail the grisly case of Hope Parks, and the gruesome lengths some people will go to when they feel they don’t have a choice.
10/12/202237 minutes, 15 seconds
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BONUS: KILLING TIME: WILD WILD WEST

This week the girls and gourmand dive into the most notorious outlaws of the Wild West. They debate going shoeless in public, dogs in bags on trains, and…cars??? Also is Matt too good of a person to be a part of TFD? Pls let us know
10/6/202249 minutes, 37 seconds
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Episode 216: Justine Vanderschoot

On September 1st, 2003, 17-year-old Justine Vanderschoot sat down with her parents to eat dinner. Her boyfriend, 18-year-old Danny Bezemer, joined them. Recently, Justine and Danny had discussed getting married later that year, and Justine’s parents supported them despite their young age. After dinner, Danny went home and Justine went to bed. The next day, Justine was gone. Immediately, the Vanderschoot family organized search parties, passed out fliers, and organized a candlelight vigil to find their beloved daughter. Sixteen days after Justine vanished, Justine’s boyfriend, Daniel, and his roommate, 21-year-old Brandon Fernandez, led police investigators to her body’s location. After tapping Justine’s phone, Daniel had learned she was speaking to another man. In a fit of jealous rage, Daniel and his roommate Brandon strangled Justine, buried her alive, and killed her. In episode 216, Jac and Alexis unravel the tragic murder of Justine Vanderschoot.
10/5/202257 minutes, 11 seconds
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BONUS: KILLING TIME: WHERE THERE'S A BILL, THERE'S A MAY

This week the girls are joined by none other than May and Bill Vanek. That's right, the entire fam is here and we have quite the special episode for all you firsties. Poisonous Tylenol, botched haircuts, couples in matching outfits, single-use towels, and much, much more.
9/29/202250 minutes, 30 seconds
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Episode 215: Jacque Waller

On June 1, 2011, a 39 year old mother of triplets goes missing from Cape Girardeau, Missouri after visiting her divorce attorney. The woman’s panicked family is extremely concerned for her welfare. Police soon zero in on the missing woman’s husband. Investigators learn that there’s a history of abuse and domestic violence. However, when the victim goes missing, both she and her husband are on the same page about the divorce. In the past he’d threatened her life if she left. But now, he was happy to proceed. How could someone have such a profound shift in their perspective? Can we really trust someone when they change their mind about something so significant? In episode 215, Jac and Alexis detail the tragic case of Jacque Waller, a woman who was on the cusp of a new life when a killer cruelly robbed her of that future.
9/28/202247 minutes, 25 seconds
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BONUS: KILLING TIME: WITCH HUNT

This week, the girls and the ginger are taking a trip to Salem to learn about the hysteria surrounding the town during the witch trials. Plus! The metaverse is on the stand, along with adult birthday parties and surprise drop=by's. Also! Stick around until the end for one of Lex's best Costanza Stanzas to date!
9/22/202247 minutes, 35 seconds
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Episode 214: The Lanz Brothers

On August 3, 2021, 27-year-old Austin Lanz boards a bus to Arlington, Virginia. He exits onto a bus station platform that is mere steps away from the US military headquarters known as the Pentagon. Without any warning or provocation, Austin immediately ambushes and kills a Pentagon police officer, 37-year-old George Gonzalez. Then, Austin kills himself. Two weeks prior, Austin had been charged with breaking into his neighbor’s home after terrorizing and stalking the residents for years. A few months later, Austin's 22-year-old brother Matthew Lanz snaps from the pressure of his emotional turmoil. On November 18th, 2021, Matthew kills the man and woman he believes his older brother was obsessed with, only to discover that this is a tragic case of mistaken identity. In episode 214, Jac and Alexis reveal the wild twists and turns of the Lanz brothers’ crimes and explain how their unwarranted violence affected so many.
9/21/202256 minutes, 12 seconds
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BONUS: KILLING TIME: CHUCKY D

This week the girls and the ginger are rollin out! Looking for America’s greatest diners, drive ins, and dives. That’s right, Guy Fieri is on the stand. Also, we’re discussing the evolution of Charles Darwin’s dating life. Plus! Tongue in a wedding kiss? That’s all right here, right now on The First Degree (Killing Time).
9/15/202243 minutes, 31 seconds
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Episode 213: Terry Barron

On August 22, 1992, a 40 year old woman and her 41 year old boyfriend are brutally attacked in a motel room in Tampa, Florida. The couple is beaten unconscious and hacked at with a knife before their attacker does something unimaginable to his male victim. The seeds of malevolence are sown in this perpetrator long before he gets to this point. But what was his ‘sliding doors’ moment? People don’t just evolve into criminals in a social and environmental vacuum. There’s a tipping point for everyone, a point of no return. When it comes to criminality, is there such a thing as genetic predetermination? When it seems like the world is against us from a young age is there truly hope for us to have the freedom to choose our own path? In episode 213, Jac and Alexis detail the incomprehensible case of Terry Barron, a serial abuser whose desire for control and vengeance knew no bounds.
9/14/202241 minutes, 46 seconds
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BONUS: KILLING TIME: JOAN OF ARC

This week the girls and the ginger discuss Dr. Phil, phones on silent, and loose change! Then, they dive in for a big heaping helping of history, as Alexis tries her best to teach us all about Joan of Arc! Plus, heresy!
9/8/202239 minutes, 28 seconds
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Episode 212: The Railroad Killer

On December 17, 1998, a 39 year old prominent clinical geneticist at the Baylor College of Medicine in West University Place, Texas, is raped, stabbed, and bludgeoned to death at her home by an intruder. When investigators find the victim’s Jeep Cherokee in San Antonio, a stranger’s fingerprints are on the steering column. It wouldn’t be until at least six month later, in June 1999, that law enforcement would apprehend the killer. Tragically, by this stage he’d killed another six people across two states. But the body count was far greater than anyone initially realised. In episode 212, Jac and Alexis detail the disturbing case of Angel Resendiz, a violent offender who became known as the Railroad Killer, and struck terror into the hearts of railroad communities across Florida, Kentucky, Texas, Georgia, IIlinois, and as far west as California.
9/7/202246 minutes, 45 seconds
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BONUS: KILLING TIME: ICEBERG RIGHT AHEAD!

This week the girls and the ginger go back to 1912 and learn all about the dark history of the Titanic. They debate cruises, singing in public, and whether you should sit next to or across from your partner at dinner. Plus, chats about immortal deep sea creatures! 
9/1/202252 minutes, 37 seconds
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Episode 211: Jayna Murray

On March 12, 2011, 29-year-old Brittany Norwood and 30-year-old Jayna Murray are discovered in the bloody backroom of a Lululemon Athletica store. Brittany is alive, but she is bound with zip-ties and injured. Jayna is dead. In interviews with law enforcement, Brittany explains that two masked men robbed the store, attacked the women, and fled the scene. But as police gather more and more evidence about this brutal crime, it's apparent that Brittany’s story doesn’t match reality. In episode 211, Jac and Alexis uncover the true events of Jayna Murray’s tragic murder.
8/31/202258 minutes, 12 seconds
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BONUS: KILLING TIME: THERE’S NO PLACE LIKE HOME

This week the girls and the ginger follow the yellow brick road and learn all of the dark, twisted, messed up facts surrounding The Wizard of Oz. They debate yellow mustard, Dole Whip, and of course…deviled eggs. Plus, wanna know where Toto is buried? We got you!
8/25/202248 minutes, 49 seconds
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Episode 210: Surviving Peter Paul, Part 2

Today concludes Jennifer’s story of escaping Peter Paul, which will inspire you, haunt you, and make you truly believe in the power of karma. Jennifer never should have had to try so hard to escape an abusive relationship, because doing so almost cost her her life. Domestic violence is hidden in every crease and corner of so many people’s lives, and as a society, we need to do better.
8/24/202243 minutes, 22 seconds
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BONUS: KILLING TIME: MURDER & MAKEUP

This week the girls are graced with the presence of a very special guest: their bestie and celeb makeup artist Afton Williams for a very special makeup themed episode. They dive into different killers who incorporated makeup into their M.O. and debate fake freckles, bright eyeliner, and the Little Miss trend. Plus, makeup tips!
8/18/202256 minutes, 43 seconds
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Episode 209: Surviving Peter Paul

Today’s story is one of the most harrowing we’ve ever told, and reveals the dark, and sometimes hopeless reality of being imprisoned by an abusive relationship. There are two key things we want listeners to take away from listening to Jennifer’s story. Number one. Never, ever ask a domestic abuse survivor why they didn’t “just leave?” Number two. Karma is REAL… and if you weren’t a believer before, you will be by the time you finish this story.
8/17/202245 minutes, 8 seconds
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BONUS: KILLING TIME: SELF SABOTAGE

This week the girls and the ginger discuss different murderers whose narcissism and self obsession lead to their own demise. They debate ketchup on eggs, Judge Judy, and taking professional phone calls on the treadmill. Plus, a BTK shit talking sesh!
8/11/202244 minutes, 50 seconds
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Episode 208: Mr. Sanger

Of all the places young women expect to feel safe, the classroom is one of them. Sure, school bullies can make our lives hell, but teachers are meant to be the ones we can trust to guide us through many of the usual pitfalls of high school. Inspiring and compassionate mentors can make all the difference. But what happens when this trust and duty of care is grossly violated in such a painful and traumatic way that it changes your life forever? To make things worse, what if you had to deal with people not only not believing you, but victimizing you further for being brave enough to speak the truth? This story is not only about such a profound violation of privacy and trust, but a sex offence facilitated by technology where most victims don‘t even know they’ve been targeted.
8/10/20221 hour, 53 seconds
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BONUS: KILLING TIME: PLAGUE PARTY

This week the girls and the ginger are talking about pets, pests, and plagues.  They learn about all of the worst infestations in history, and debate having a bug as a pet, saving the world by singing into your phone, and the plague doctor costume.  Plus, capybaras!
8/4/202248 minutes, 24 seconds
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Episode 207: The Gypsy Joker Outlaws

There’s nothing more intriguing than a peek behind the curtain of an elusive and exclusive world… What’s even more seductive is being welcomed into it. On episode 207, Jac and Lex explore the elicit and sometimes violent world of Motorcycle Clubs, specifically, the Gypsy Joker Outlaws.
8/3/202246 minutes, 58 seconds
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BONUS: KILLING TIME: THE HAMBURGLAR

This week the girls and the ginger learn about the most messed up way to make a burger. They debate In N Out fries, breakfast all day, and a cheese-less burger. Plus, when stealing a Pog gets slammed into your mind forever!
7/28/202242 minutes, 22 seconds
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Episode 206: Jesse James Hollywood

On August 6, 2000, a 15 year old student walking not far from his home in Los Angeles is snatched off the street. Little does anyone know, he’ll never see his family again. When details emerge about what preceded the young man’s disappearance and what transpired afterwards, the motive, sequence of events and the many people involved make it seem like something out of a movie. In fact, it does become a movie, which only adds fuel to the fire, thanks to a state prosecutor having a questionable level of creative input on the project. To complicate matters, the orchestrator of the horrific events goes on the run, prompting an international manhunt and evading capture for almost 5 years. In episode 206, Jac and Alexis detail the case of Jesse James Hollywood, and how the murder of Nicholas Markowitz appalled the affluent neighbourood of West Hills, California.
7/27/202258 minutes, 17 seconds
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BONUS: KILLING TIME: MAN ON THE MOON

This week the girls and the ginger celebrate the anniversary of the moon landing by diving into space related conspiracy theories!  They debate lobster ice cream, “the crunch”, and picking money up off the ground.  Plus, we discovered the gateway to hell!
7/21/202252 minutes, 58 seconds
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Episode 205: Chacey Poynter

On September 9, 2016, a 47 year old off duty firefighter attends to assist a vehicle which is stuck in the mud on a road on the outskirts of town. Before the night is over, the man will be dead and his devastated wife inconsolable. When an arrest is made, those who knew the victim are in disbelief. Because there’s more than one person involved in this dark and twisted story, and the motive is truly chilling. In episode 205, Jac and Alexis detail the case of Robert “Bob” Poynter and how his murder shocked the small community of Royse City, Texas.
7/20/202258 minutes, 56 seconds
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BONUS: KILLING TIME: C’EST LA VIE

This week the girls and the ginger put on their berets for a French themed KT! They debate frog legs, ice in drinks, and conversing with your plane seat mate. Plus they go through France’s most bizarre laws. Au revoir!
7/14/202253 minutes, 17 seconds
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Episode 204: Sextortion

Internet technology evolves faster than any of us can keep up with.  And as more and more of our lives are spent online, criminals are adapting. They’re exercising ingenuity, and concocting creative new ways to harm, victimize, and exploit the most vulnerable. This story is about one of those criminals: a pedophile who thought he was untouchable…only he wasn’t.
7/13/202251 minutes, 28 seconds
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BONUS: KILLING TIME: MANDELA EFFECT

This week the girls and the ginger dive into the fascinating phenomenon of the Mandela Effect, and go through some of the craziest false memories from our recent history. They debate the concept of flavor blasted, carpets in airports, and sponges. Plus the best Worstie Firstie revenge involving puzzle pieces!
7/7/202248 minutes, 9 seconds
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Episode 203: Linda LaRoche

In July of 1999, Racine County, WI Law Enforcement was called to the scene of a female victim who had been left in a cornfield. Based on her injuries, she'd suffered years of abuse and had been killed within 24 hours of being placed in the field. In the decades that followed, law enforcement agencies used every resource at their disposal in an effort to not only identify the victim, but also hone in on her killer. The answers to these questions wouldn't be revealed until 2019, and the person responsible for the crime would shock and horrify the people who knew her, especially those who'd  had close encounters with the perpetrator. 
7/6/20221 hour, 1 minute, 40 seconds
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BONUS: KILLING TIME: CHICKEN OF THE SEA

This week the girls and the ginger dive into the messiest celebrity divorces of the 2000s, starting with the iconic Jessica Simpson & Nick Lachey.  They debate over-preparing for a trip, 2 drink maximums at brunch, and shar pei tails.  Plus the most heartwarming Worstie Firstie we’ve ever received.
6/30/202252 minutes, 58 seconds
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Episode 202: Isaac Aguigui, Part 2

Following soldier Deirdre Aguigui’s untimely death in July 2011, her husband Isaac becomes disenchanted with the military and government. For the next five months, Isaac and a small group of fellow soldiers spend the majority of Isaac’s $500,000 life insurance payout to get back payback. Multiple law enforcement agencies know what Isaac and his group are up to, but it’s not until two more innocent people are murdered that anyone is stopped. In episode 202, Jac, Alexis, and Billy detail how Isaac Aguigui funded and founded a militia within the Army, and how doing so led to the deaths of Tiffany York and Michael Roark.
6/29/202255 minutes, 12 seconds
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Episode 201: Isaac Aguigui, Part 1

In 2010, a soldier in her early 20s returns to the US from a deployment to Iraq - she’d been injured in a mortar attack. She and her husband settle into an apartment located on Fort Stewart, Georgia. They soon get pregnant, and are both beyond excited to be parents. But on July 17, all that excitement comes crashing down when the woman dies inside their on-base apartment. Her husband tells everyone he found her unresponsive, and that she died as a result of the injuries she sustained in Iraq. His story seems believable on the surface…until you find out how he spends the wife’s $500,000 life insurance payout. In episode 201, Jac, Alexis, and Billy detail the teenage years of Isaac Aguigui, his military career, and his marriage to Deirdre Wetzker, which ended in her death.
6/22/202240 minutes, 32 seconds
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BONUS: KILLING TIME: PSYCHO KILLER

This week the girls and the goth discuss all of the movies inspired by real life killers, starting with the classic: Psycho. They debate audiobook gate keepers, peeing on the toilet seat, and the gloriousness of Topo Chico. Also a tangent about plane crashes!
6/16/202238 minutes, 34 seconds
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Episode 200: Melissa “Missy” Clary

A 20 year old woman escapes an abusive relationship, and moves into her own place, taking her young son along with her. She starts working at a job she loves, and focuses on providing a better life for her and her son. But just as things are starting to really look up for the woman, she’s found beaten and strangled in her South Carolina home. In episode 200, Jac, Alexis, and Billy detail the murder of Melissa “Missy” Clary, a victim of domestic violence in both life and death.
6/15/202247 minutes, 6 seconds
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BONUS: KILLING TIME: OH DONALD!

This week the girls and the goth do a deep dark dive into Donald Duck’s possible involvement in WWII. They debate $35 beers, wooden utensils, and not throwing your trash away properly.  Oh, and muppet is our new official word used to insult people!
6/9/202242 minutes, 53 seconds
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Episode 199: The Benyon Brothers

On October 21, 2020, two brothers aged in their early twenties are gunned down at their home in Wolcott, Indiana. Their bodies are discovered the next day. In the following days, police get a tip off that a 20 year old woman may know something about the shootings. When she’s interviewed, she admits to being at the scene of the crime with her boyfriend and his associate. She denies being involved in any shooting, and it soon becomes a matter of ‘he said, she said’. But the stories of the three accused don’t line up, especially when evidence emerges suggesting the alleged murders may have been planned all along. In episode 199, Jac, Alexis, and Billy detail the alleged murders of the Benyon brothers, Mathew and Daniel, at the hands of a former classmate Breann Cobb, her boyfriend Marlin Seay and another associate named Dorian Hale Jr.
6/8/202236 minutes, 44 seconds
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BONUS: KILLING TIME: KILLED BY YOUR MAKER

This week the girls and the goth dive into all of the poor, poor inventors who were murdered by the very things they crested.  They debate the two soy sauce maximum, the Mexican Pizza, and the concept of a table soup.  Plus, how much is too much cheese?
6/2/202247 minutes, 59 seconds
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Episode 198: Matthew Kelly

On December 12, 2021, a 34 year old Kansas man is arrested on a misdemeanor count of property damage. As fate would have it, the man’s cellmate is a family friend who fronts him half the money to pay his bond. On the night of the 13th, the 34 year old man is released from jail. Less than three hours later, his body is found in the back of a truck - he’d been brutally murdered. In episode 198, Jac, Alexis, and Billy dig in to the murder of Matthew Kelly and try to make sense of why anyone wanted him dead.
6/1/202257 minutes, 21 seconds
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BONUS: KILLING TIME: I VANT TO SUCK YOUR BLOOD

This week the girls and the goth put their fangs in and dive into the dark history of Dracula!  They debate charcuterie vending machines, binging TV shows, and the word moist.  And real question: was Dracula hot or nah?
5/26/202248 minutes, 15 seconds
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Episode 197: Marie "Lisa" Peak, Part 2

In December 1975, Lisa Peak helps authorities bring down John Carmody, the head of a sex trafficking extortion ring. By September 1976, Lisa, now 19 years old, is starting to move on with her life. She moves into the dorms for her sophomore year at Wartburg College in Waverly, Iowa. Two days later, she’s found dead. The obvious suspect is Carmody, but he’s still behind bars, so authorities look into the possibility that Lisa’s murder is connected to the unsolved murders of 14 year old Valerie Klossowsky and 18 year old Julie Benning. In episode 197, Jac, Alexis, and Billy pore through the details of all three murders and try to figure out if they’re connected. 
5/25/202254 minutes, 37 seconds
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BONUS: KILLING TIME: QUEEN FOR A DAY

This week the girls and the goth learn all about Henry VIII’s 6 wives (victims) and all of his bizarre medieval gaslighting. They debate bartender gatekeeping, iced water vs room temp, and if it’s an abomination for servers to call tap water “sink water”. Fun fact: did you know catfishing was invented in the 1500s?
5/19/202241 minutes, 24 seconds
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Episode 196: Marie “Lisa” Peak, Part 1

In the fall of 1975, Lisa Peak is a freshman journalism student at Wartburg College in Waverly, Iowa when she is trapped into a sex trafficking extortion ring run by a sick and twisted man named John Carmody. After months of abuse, Lisa goes to the police and helps secure a conviction against him. With Carmody behind bars, Lisa tries to move on with her life - she decides to write a book about her experiences and she re-enrolls at Wartburg. But only one day after she moves into the all girls dorm, Lisa goes missing. In episode 196, Jac, Alexis, and Billy examine Marie “Lisa” Peak’s disappearance and her time as a member of John Carmody’s “Family”.
5/18/202242 minutes, 39 seconds
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BONUS: KILLING TIME: DOH!

This week the girls and the goth learn about all the wild predictions The Simpsons made throughout the years. They debate unpacking your suitcase right away, nacho cheese, and judging people by their book covers. PLUS! Is "you're not cool" the best dig ever?
5/12/202245 minutes, 17 seconds
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Episode 195: Terror Begins at Home, Part 2

In part one, our first degree Katie shared harrowing details of her relationship with her ex boyfriend Ryan, and the abuse and escalating violence she experienced first hand. By the time she left him, Katie was convinced that Ryan had the ability to kill... and she was right. In episode 195, Jac, Alexis and Billy learn what happened after Katie escaped this relationship, the victims who came after her, and the senseless murder that sent shockwaves through Mansfield and Ashland Ohio.
5/11/202252 minutes, 2 seconds
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BONUS: KILLING TIME- WHAT'S IN THE BAG, NAPOLEON?

This week, the girls and the goth discuss espresso martinis, unsolicited guitar playing, and the magic of dueling piano bars. Also! A short talk about the Napoleon complex. Plus! Oops, we blew up your car!
5/5/202240 minutes, 41 seconds
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Episode 194: Terror Begins at Home, Part 1

Fifty seven women each month are shot and killed by intimate partners in America. An additional one million women in America have survived being shot by an intimate partner. How do we stop these perpetrators, and how can we avoid getting into relationships with them? The short answer is--We can’t. What we can do is educate ourselves in what behaviors to look out for, which is exactly the purpose of today’s episode. In episode 194, Jac, Alexis and Billy talk to Katie, a woman who survived one of these relationships, getting out of it just in the knick of time. And while she made it out alive, not everyone in this story did.
5/4/202256 minutes, 10 seconds
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BONUS: KILLING TIME- ALIEN AUTOPSY

This week the girls and the goth explore UFO conspiracies and one of the most popular extraterrestrial snuff films of all time. They debate joint Facebook accounts, estate sales, and geese. Plus Catfishing tips!
4/28/202248 minutes, 5 seconds
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Episode 193: Mass Murderer John Doe, Part 2

We conclude with part 2 of our story about the attention-hungry mass murderer who ruined and stole the lives of so many in his pursuit of name recognition and infamy.
4/27/202256 minutes, 45 seconds
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BONUS: KILLING TIME- FESTIVAL FAILZ

This week the girls and the goth go down the rabbit hole of the biggest festival disaster of all time. They debate Eric Church bailing on his job to watch college basketball, Coachella 2022, and talking on speaker phone while going #2. QOTD: do you pull your pants down to your ankles when you go to the bathroom?
4/21/202249 minutes, 34 seconds
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Episode 192: Mass Murderer John Doe, Part 1

On April 23, 2018, a 25 year old man commits the worst mass murder in Canadian history since 1989 by driving a Chevy cargo van down busy sidewalks and streets in the business district of Toronto, striking anyone and everything in his path. In less than 10 minutes, the man takes the lives of 10 innocent victims, and severely injures 16 more. In episode 192, Jac, Alexis, and Billy discuss the Toronto Van Attack, and how one man’s actions left an entire city traumatized. 
4/20/202250 minutes, 12 seconds
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BONUS: KILLING TIME- SIC SEMPER TYRANNIS!

This week the girls and the goth dive into Boston Corbett, the elusive hipster who killed John Wilkes Booth during Billy’s childhood. They debate canned cocktails, crowding gates at airports, and Billy’s disdain for trending tiktok sounds!
4/14/202250 minutes, 49 seconds
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Episode 191: Kay Gosewisch

On July 31, 2020, concerned neighbors contact authorities after not seeing their 73 year old neighbor since mid-April. Mail is piling up, her yard is no longer meticulously maintained, and she’s not answering phone calls or texts. Authorities conduct a welfare check, and find nothing amiss. 19 days later, they’re contacted by the 73 year old woman’s bank - someone has been illegally accessing her accounts. By August 31, authorities finally have enough evidence to enter the woman’s home, but what they found inside was enough to creep out even the most seasoned detectives. In episode 191, Jac, Alexis, and Billy detail the murder of Kay Gosewisch, and try to make sense of why anyone would want to take her life.
4/13/202253 minutes, 4 seconds
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BONUS: KILLING TIME- HELLO HOWARD

This week the girls and the goth learn about the infamous Clay the Serial Killer, who confessed to a dozen murders on the Howard Stern Show. They debate automatic hand dryers, fries and frosties, and shopping cart abandoners. Plus, Alexis decides that skin is IN! 
4/7/202239 minutes, 46 seconds
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Episode 190: Andrea Nance

It was approaching midnight on the evening of March 8th, 2004 when Julie realized something was wrong. Her best friend Andrea was supposed to meet her when she was done with work—but she was a no show. In the days that followed, news of what happened to Andrea would spread through Columbus, and a massive search for would ensue. In episode 190, Jac, Alexis and Billy tell one of the saddest stories they’ve ever told, as the best friend of Andrea tries to make sense of an utterly senseless crime.
4/6/202248 minutes, 54 seconds
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BONUS: KILLING TIME- PARIS IS 4 LOVERZ

This week the girls and the goth learn about the dark side of the Eiffel Tower. They debate Avril Lavigne, forgiving student loans, and creating your own lane. Also, do you think pick pocketers are magicians or no?
3/31/202255 minutes, 5 seconds
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Episode 189: Sydney Sutherland

On August 19, 2020, a 24 year old woman goes for her daily run in rural Jackson County, Arkansas. When she doesn’t return home, her boyfriend alerts the police and a massive search begins. Two days later, a man takes his 28 year old stepson to the police station, believing he has information on the woman’s disappearance. After finding blood on the 28 year old man’s truck, police search his phone’s GPS history and find he was in the area when the woman disappeared. Police go to the GPS coordinates, and mere yards away, find the woman’s body buried in a field. The killer says it was an accident that got out of hand, but police say otherwise. What is the truth? In episode 189, Jac, Alexis, and Billy detail the murder of Sydney Suthlerand at the hands of an old classmate, Quake Lewellyn. 
3/30/202246 minutes, 59 seconds
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BONUS: KILLING TIME- HOUDINI HANDCUFFS

This week the girls and the goth dive into the strange life and stranger death of Harry Houdini!  They debate half birthdays, what to do with leftover haircut hair, and is dipping fries in cheese blasphemy?  Plus learn how to become a lawyer in just one night!
3/24/202245 minutes, 53 seconds
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Episode 188: Gary Wayne Puckett, Part 2

On September 28th, 1997, a 35 year old woman is viciously attacked in a rest area bathroom in North Dakota. She miraculously survives and provides police with a description of her attacker, who is tracked down within hours. Soon after, authorities realize the attacker is not only a registered sex offender, but also the suspect in multiple Washington state murders. But is the attacker actually responsible for all of the murders? In episode 188, Jac, Alexis, and Billy discuss the crimes of Gary Wayne Puckett and try to figure out if he's a serial killer.
3/23/202248 minutes, 51 seconds
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BONUS: KILLING TIME- ST. PADDY'S

This week the girls and the goth throw on their green garb to celebrate St. Paddy's day! They share some bizarre shit that has happened on the lucky day over the years, and debate Irish Car Bombs, outdoor seating, and pinching someone for not wearing green. Plus, does Billy own a merkin? Listen to find out!
3/17/202258 minutes, 31 seconds
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Episode 187: Gary Wayne Puckett, Part 1

On September 23rd, 1997, a 52-year-old woman named Alice and her golden retriever vanished from the Cedar River trail outside Kent, Washington. Alice’s husband and daughter retraced her steps and searched for her… later learning that they may have encountered her killer on the trail. Soon after, authorities realize the attacker is not only a registered sex offender, but could be connected to other violent crimes in the surrounding area. In episode 187, Jac, Alexis, and Billy deconstruct the curious case of Gary Wayne Puckett, and the trail of errors that set him free.
3/16/202250 minutes, 45 seconds
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BONUS: KILLING TIME- ONION NUGGETS

This week the girls and the goth dive into the concept of fingerprints. Are they truly unique special snowflakes?? They debate mayonnaise, McDonalds fried onion balls, and menu hacking? Plus, is stealing clothes to wear to church okay or nah?
3/10/202242 minutes, 35 seconds
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BONUS: KILLING TIME - ESCAPE PLAN

This week the girls and the goth dive into the most infamous prison escapes, including the lil sweetie himself, John Dillinger! They debate pig parking, exclamation points, and the 4 day work week. Plus, should you smear poop on your moms new boyfriend?  Find out now!
3/3/202245 minutes, 9 seconds
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Episode 185: Katie Filiberti

On March 18, 2011, an 18 year old woman goes to a house party with her boyfriend. The next day, her body is found in a creek. Five months later, the killer is arrested, and when the public finds out who it is, they’re shocked. In episode 185, Jac, Alexis, and Billy detail the case of Kathryn “Katie” Filiberti and how her murder affected the small town of Hyde Park, New York.
3/2/202238 minutes, 6 seconds
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BONUS: KILLING TIME- THE QUEEN IS DEAD

This week the girls and the goth discuss that one time (earlier that day) that Billy accidentally started a rumor that the Queen of England died! They debate champagne on ice, FaceTiming in public, and talking with emojis. Bonus chat about President Bush barfing on the Japanese Prime Minister!
2/24/202249 minutes, 13 seconds
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Episode 184: Jeffrey Milo Burks

In 1974, a young man commits a senseless murder, and is sentenced to seven years to life. 10 years later, the man is eligible for parole and is awaiting transfer to the prison where he’ll finish serving his time. But on March 24, 1984, all of those plans are destroyed when two knife-wielding inmates murder another inmate over a personal matter. In 1987, due to incompetence and corruption, the actual murderers are acquitted, and the soon-to-be paroled man is convicted. 35 years later, the innocent man is still sitting behind bars. In episode 184, Jac, Alexis, and Billy discuss the wrongful conviction of Jeffrey Milo Burks, and try to make sense of why he hasn’t been exonerated yet.
2/23/202249 minutes, 15 seconds
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BONUS: BEST OF KILLING TIME

This week the girls and the goth reminisce about their favorite Killing Time moments. From Ted Bundy's sock obsession to Payne Lindsay’s secret life as a boy band member to trick or treating for baked beans, this episode has something for everyone! 
2/17/202239 minutes
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Episode 183: Dee Dee Blanchard

A woman and her disabled daughter relocate to Missouri after losing everything in Hurricane Katrina. They become local celebrities after residents hear what the mother and daughter have been through. For years, the community rallies around them, gathering donations, organizing fundraisers, and more. Then one day, out of nowhere, the mother is found murdered and her disabled daughter is nowhere to be found. A frantic search for the girl begins, and when she’s found, authorities realize everything people have come to know about this mother and daughter duo is a complete lie. In episode 183, Jac, Alexis, and Billy example what led Gypsy Blanchard to murder her mother Dee Dee.
2/16/202248 minutes, 23 seconds
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BONUS: KILLING TIME- VALENTINE VAMPIRES

This week the girls and the goth get in the romantic mood and get to the bottom of the dark history of Valentine’s Day! They debate sending carnations in elementary school, buying yourself flowers just cuz….and why is Billy so obsessed with sexy vampires?
2/10/202239 minutes, 55 seconds
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Episode 182: Charlie Oppenneer & Brooke Slocum

An eight month pregnant teenager and her boyfriend post an ad on Craigslist, hoping to trade sex for cash. A user named “Mike's Hard” reaches out, and they make plans to meet at a local park. The couple leave their apartment and drive to the park, but they never return home. Four days later, the boyfriend is found decapitated in the park, near his abandoned car. The pregnant girlfriend is nowhere to be found. Investigators track down Mike's Hard, but they’re too late - he’s already taken the girlfriend's life, along with his own. But that’s not where this story ends - once investigators step inside Mike's Hard’s house, they discover a scene ripped straight out of a horror movie. In episode 182, Jac, Alexis, and Billy examine the relationship between Brooke Slocum and Charlie Oppenneer, and how they crossed paths with the deranged Brady Oestrike. 
2/9/202250 minutes, 44 seconds
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BONUS: KILLING TIME- THE DAY THE MUSIC DIED

This week the girls and the goth learn about the spooky circumstances surrounding Buddy Holly and the Day The Music Died.  They debate bands “selling out”, gen-z TikTok trends, and the atrocity that is fake pockets.  Now go throw on “American Pie” for old times sake!
2/3/202240 minutes, 6 seconds
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Episode 181: Alyssa Bustamante

A 9 year old girl goes to play with her 6 year old neighbor. She’s supposed to be home by 6:00pm, but she never comes back. Hundreds of people search for the girl in 60 acres of dense woods located behind the girl’s home, but there’s no sign of her. Investigators start focusing on the neighbor’s 15 year old sister as a suspect in the disappearance. They bring her in for questioning, and she confesses to killing the girl for a reason that is beyond belief. In episode 181, Jac, Alexis, and Billy explore the senseless and brutal murder of Elizabeth Olten.
2/2/202253 minutes, 34 seconds
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BONUS: KILLING TIME- DANTE'S INFERNO

This week the girls and the goth go to hell, literally!  In this Inferno themed episode, they travel through the 9 circles of hell, and throw out which celebs they’d like to meet in each.  They debate the “we need to talk text”, being a traitor to small businesses, and crying on Instagram. Which circle of hell do you think you’ll go to??
1/27/202245 minutes, 58 seconds
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Episode 180: Kaila Tran

A 26 year old Winnipeg woman leaves her apartment and walks to her car. As she opens the door, she is attacked by a man with a knife and stabbed over 30 times. The attacker flees, the woman dies, and a police search ensues. A few days later, a man calls the police and says he was with the killer when the woman was murdered - she was killed to pay off a large drug debt, and the person who ordered the hit was the woman’s boyfriend. Police arrest the killer and the woman’s boyfriend, but none of their stories add up. Who is telling the truth? In episode 180, Jac, Alexis, and Billy explore what happened to Kaila Tran and try to make sense of why she was the target of such a brutal attack.
1/26/202255 minutes, 25 seconds
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BONUS: KILLING TIME: ONE MORE SONG!

This week the girls and the goth discuss all of the bizarre ways live shows can go wrong. They debate the concept of mosh pits, taking videos of the concert to post on Instagram, and Alexis’ disdain for t-shirt guns. Also, bet ya didn’t know that Ozzy Osbourne prefers doves over bats!
1/20/202240 minutes, 36 seconds
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Episode 179: The Gainesville Ripper Part 3

While awaiting trial, Danny Rolling confesses to the five Ripper murders. He sits down with authorities and explains how he brutally murdered the college students in their own homes. Later, Danny pleads not guilty and a trial date is set, but right before proceedings begin, Danny has a change of heart and pleads guilty. He is subsequently sentenced to death, and eventually executed. In episode 179, Jac, Alexis, and Billy conclude their three part series on the Gainesville Ripper, the killer who inspired the movie Scream.
1/19/202249 minutes, 37 seconds
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BONUS: KILLING TIME: OH, THE HORROR!

This week the girls and the goth take a cute little road trip to the Amityville Horror house! They chat about the mass murder that took place, the paranormal activity that ensued, and who the hell was Jodi the pig?? Plus, debates about celebrity tequila brands, the gloriousness of teledoc, and how bare feet on planes make us wanna hurl. 
1/13/202244 minutes, 37 seconds
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Episode 178: The Gainesville Ripper Part 2

Florida investigators are working around the clock to track down and apprehend the Gainesville Ripper, who brutally murdered five college students over the course of four days. After a few months, investigators find the Ripper…in jail. As investigators get a closer look into the man behind the mask, they discover that he is responsible for many other unsolved crimes including the massacre of a family and multiple armed robberies. In episode 178, Jac, Alexis, and Billy lay out the details of how one of Florida’s largest manhunts of all time led authorities to 36 year old Danny Rolling.
1/12/202244 minutes, 20 seconds
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BONUS: KILLING TIME- THAT'S SO 90s

This week the girls and the goth time travel back to the 90s to discuss the biggest scandals of the decade. They’re talking Nancy Kerrigan / Tonya Harding, Pee Wee Herman’s arrest, Pam & Tommy Lee’s sex tape, and the travesty that was Woodstock 99, and their favorite 90s toys! Plus, are vans sexy?
1/6/202249 minutes, 58 seconds
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Episode 177: The Gainesville Ripper Part 1

It’s August 1990, and the fall semester is about to start. College students start trickling into the city, and while they’re moving into their new places, they have no idea that a monster has also moved to town: a serial killer who preys on young, unsuspecting female students. At the end of his four day spree, the killer will steal five innocent lives, and leave a small town drowning in fear. In episode 177, Jac, Alexis, and Billy delve into the Gainesville Ripper, a sadistic serial killer who later inspired the movie Scream.
1/5/202239 minutes, 7 seconds
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BONUS: KILLING TIME- NEW YEAR NEW US

This week the girls and the goth reminisce on all of the bullshit that 2021 brought them. They debate New Years resolutions, going out on NYE, and the disgusting idea of paying to go to a nightclub. Plus, Billy reads bad reviews (even though we told him not to).
12/30/202150 minutes, 37 seconds
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Episode 176: See Ya 2021

The very last episode of The First Degree of 2021 is dedicated to the biggest true crime headlines of the year. The trio discusses everything from the bodies discovered during the Gabby Petito case to the recent arrest in the Shopping Cart Killer and more. Plus we play voicemails from our Firsties about their takeaways from the year and hopes for 2022.
12/29/202148 minutes, 18 seconds
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BONUS: KILLING TIME- A FESTIVUS MIRACLE

This week the girls and the goth celebrate the very sacred holiday of Festivus! They debate unsolicited gift lists, giving cash as a present, and THE most controversial Christmas song. Plus, the infamous Harry Potter pants shitting story and the inception of BleakFest!
12/23/202146 minutes, 29 seconds
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Episode 175: Happy Holidaze

Are you the kind of weirdo who is always trying to slip true crime facts into normal conversation? Well you’re in luck, because this week is an unconventional episode of TFD where the gang will supply you with little known tidbits you can talk about over holiday dinner with the fam! Plus they chat about their McDonalds orders, weird modern day cults, and Alexis’ porch pirate. 
12/22/202137 minutes, 6 seconds
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KILLING TIME: SECRET SANTA

This week the girls and the goth get festive! They discuss different murders committed by Santa himself and debate secret Santa, wool sweaters, and of course… fruit cake.
12/16/202139 minutes, 54 seconds
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Episode 174: Susan Heyliger

It’s closing time at the bar, so a 42 year old bartender checks the bathrooms to make sure they're empty, shoos the lingering patrons out the front door, then locks the deadbolt. Thinking she’s alone and safe in the bar, the bartender starts her list of closing duties. Then, out of nowhere, a man drops out of the ceiling - he is shocked to see the bartender - he thought the bar was empty. A struggle ensues and the bartender fights hard for her life, but the man eventually overcomes her. The man then robs the cash register and flees. He is not brought to justice for 21 years. In episode 174, Jac, Alexis, and Billy follow the long path it took to bring the killer of Susan Heyliger to justice.
12/15/20211 hour, 1 minute, 43 seconds
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KILLING TIME: THE STAIRCASE

This week the girls and the goth talk about Michael Peterson and dive into all of the bizarre theories surrounding Kathleen Peterson’s death. They debate wearing shoes in the house, hot cocktails, and when is the appropriate time to refill the ice tray?
12/9/202147 minutes, 32 seconds
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Episode 173: Irene Katuran

A woman breaks up with her boyfriend. A month later, she files for a restraining order after her ex strangles her. Not long after, she is found brutally murdered in her bathroom - she’d been stabbed more than 34 times and sustained multiple blunt force injuries. A manhunt for her ex-boyfriend ensues, and he is arrested weeks later - 1,200 miles from home. He claims insanity at trial, but the jury doesn’t believe him. He’s sentenced to death. In episode 173, Jac, Alexis, and Billy explore the murder of Irene Katuran at the hands of her ex-boyfriend, David Gulbrandson. 
12/8/202157 minutes, 10 seconds
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KILLING TIME: ANOTHER YEAR CLOSER TO DEATH

This week the girls and the goth celebrate the birthday of their very own Alexis Linkletter!  She takes a trip down memory lane to share some past dark birthday moments, and they debate surprise parties, sharing gift wish lists, and decorating before Thanksgiving.
12/2/202145 minutes, 40 seconds
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Episode 172: Generro Sanchez

Jeana West received a call that is every mother's worst nightmare. Her son, Generro, who was off at college, was dead. From that moment, she began fighting an uphill battle to secure justice for her son and hold his murderer accountable. In episode 172, Jac, Alexis & Billy share the story of Generro Sanchez, and his mother's unrelenting quest to protect others from the suffering her family endured.
12/1/202147 minutes, 49 seconds
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KILLING TIME: GOBBLE GOBBLE

This week the girls and the goth bitch about all things Turkey day. They learn about Thanksgiving murders over the years, and debate turducken, cranberry sauce, and keeping the TV on during dinner. 
11/25/202140 minutes, 59 seconds
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Episode 171: Thanksgiving 2021

On this very special Thanksgiving episode of The First Degree, the gang chats about the forensic advancements, solved cold cases, and justice served that they are thankful for this year. They then hand the mic over to their amazing listeners (aka Firsties) to share what they are thankful for!
11/24/202148 minutes
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KILLING TIME: DRINK THE KOOL-AID

This week the girls and the goth get culty and talk all things Jonestown, from Jim Jones’ “F*ck Schedule” to his pet monkey Mr Bubbs. They debate cult uniforms, over-wearing sunglasses, and how we all know it was Flavor Aid.
11/18/202144 minutes, 40 seconds
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Episode 170: Lola Blanc

A woman of LDS faith is excommunicated from her church. After three years of repentance, the woman moves halfway across the country to Utah with her daughter and sons. In Utah, the woman attends an LDS singles dance, and that’s where she meets a man claiming to be the true prophet. After indoctrinating the woman and her daughter, the woman is forced into sex trafficking, which lasts for months until a “customer” realizes what’s really going on. The “customer” gets the woman out of the horrifying situation, and she and her daughter leave the cult. In episode (170), Jac, Alexis, and Billy talk to Lola Blanc about how she and her mother, Christine, believed in a false prophet, and how that affected their lives.
11/17/202153 minutes, 51 seconds
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KILLING TIME: PISTORIUS

This week the girls and the goth are analyzing the infamous Oscar Pistorius case, from the step by step recap of what happened on Feb 14, 2013, to why it’s so hard to prove intent in court. They debate table cloths, demolishing historic buildings, and the annoyance of lawn mowers.
11/11/202146 minutes, 6 seconds
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Episode 169: Modern Day Bonnie & Clyde

Once the quintessential cheerleader in high school, a 30 year old woman’s life is nothing like it used to be. The husband she had a tumultuous relationship with has died, and she’s turned to drugs. She starts dating another 30 year old drug user, and while she has a prior criminal history, it’s nothing like her boyfriend’s. Within five days of becoming Facebook official, the new couple heads off on a 10 day multi-state crime spree. Along the way, they acquire the nickname “Modern Day Bonnie and Clyde”. In episode 169, Jac, Alexis, and Billy delve into why Brittany Harper was willing to risk her life to join Blake Fitzgerald on a crime spree ending in tragedy.
11/10/202141 minutes, 54 seconds
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KILLING TIME WITH BAILEY SARIAN

This week the girls and the goth interrogate the iconic Bailey Sarian! They chat about Bailey’s introduction to true crime as a kid, debate who killed JonBenet, and she confesses the worst thing she’s ever done!
11/4/202145 minutes, 3 seconds
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Episode 168: Brandon Brown

A senior in high school suffers an injury that puts an end to his dream of playing college basketball. His life spirals out of control, and one night in 2008, he finds himself pointing a gun at a bouncer outside a Portland, Maine bar. He fires one shot, hitting the bouncer, a sniper with the Marines, in the chest. The bouncer is left paralyzed below the waist, and the shooter goes to prison for attempted murder. While there, the shooter becomes the first inmate to enroll in a graduate program, where he starts a groundbreaking study into rehabilitating prisoners. By 2020, the shooter has made so many strides, that the bouncer supports the shooter’s application for clemency. In Episode 168, Jac, Alexis, and Billy recount the story of Brandon Brown’s redemption after he shot and paralyzed James Sanders.
11/3/202149 minutes, 11 seconds
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KILLING TIME: SPOOKY SZN

This week the girls and the goth celebrate a SPOOKY week with a Halloween themed episode of Killing Time! They learn about different Halloween murders over the year and debate healthy Halloween snacks, teenagers trick or treating, and the glorious 100 Grand candy bar.
10/29/202146 minutes, 23 seconds
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Episode 167: Jesse & Brad

Episode Title: Jesse & Brad A chance encounter in a Wal-Mart parking lot leads to two nights of partying…before things take a dark and unexpected turn. On episode 167, Jac, Alexis & Billy tell a harrowing tale of taunting texts, betrayal, a near death encounter and a horror movie turned real.
10/29/202155 minutes, 19 seconds
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KILLING TIME: JAC’S ENGAGED!!!

This week the girls and the goth celebrate Jac and Jared getting engaged in a wedding themed episode of Killing Time! Jac and Alexis take you through the night of the proposal and try to put the blurry pieces together one of the best and most nerve wracking nights of Jac’s life!
10/29/202153 minutes, 10 seconds
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Episode 166: Linda Stoltzfoos

A young Amish girl goes missing while walking home from church. Because the police aren’t sharing any details, people come up with theories on what happened. Some think the girl ran away to escape the strict confines of her religion, others think something more sinister happened. Then, seemingly out of nowhere, an arrest is made. But police still don’t know where the girl is, and they won’t find out for nine months. In episode 166, Jac, Alexis, and Billy examine what happened to Linda Stoltzfoos, and how her disappearance affected both the Amish and English communities.
10/29/202157 minutes
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KILLING TIME: CANNIBALISM

This week, the girls and the goth are talking cannibalism: from Jeffrey Dahmer to the Donner Party to weird dudes who eat body parts in the name of art. They put pumpkin spice, candy corn, and white chocolate on the stand, and get VERY involved with a Worstie’s threesome gone bad.
10/29/202157 minutes, 36 seconds
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Episode 165: Amy Vick Part 2

By the time Tony Vick was 31 years old, he had been prosecuted for fraud, suspected of arson, had become a cult leader, and had collected more than 500k in life insurance payouts resulting from the death of those closest to him. Somehow, Tony had evaded consequences for these sins-- despite the cloud of suspicion that had hovered over him...That is, until the inexplicable disappearance of his second wife, 39-year-old Kathy Beadle. In episode 165, Jac, Alexis and Billy conclude with part 2 of the curious case of Tony Vick.
10/29/202144 minutes, 21 seconds
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KILLING TIME WITH PAYNE LINDSEY

This week the girls and the goth have an epic chat with their friend Payne Lindsey, host of the Up and Vanished podcast! They talk about all things involving Season 3 of the podcast, focusing on Ashley Loring Heavyrunner and missing and murdered Indigenous women. The crew then gets silly and dives into fan questions for Payne and end up revealing an incredible nugget from his past.
10/29/202151 minutes, 51 seconds
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Episode 164: Amy Vick Part 1

A man finds his wife unconscious in a bathtub, just a few months after he was diagnosed with cancer. Friends and family grieve for him—but what they don’t know is that he has a history of being an elaborate scam artist. In episode 164, Jac, Alexis and Billy uncover the bizarre tale of a criminal who rivals “The Jinx.”
10/6/202144 minutes, 15 seconds
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KILLING TIME: CURSED CAR

This week, the girls and the goth revisit James Dean’s fatal car crash and the trail of destruction The Little Bastard caused post mortem. They debate backseat DJs, car phonecalls, and trunks filled with goodwill bags.
9/30/202148 minutes, 58 seconds
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Episode 163: Vickie Edge

A Florida woman starts dating a man she met online, and after a quick courtship they start planning their future together. He promises her a house, a new car and the wedding of her dreams. For her, he was “Mr. Right.” How could anything go wrong? In episode 163, Jac, Alexis and Billy, reveal the startling details of this love story gone wrong.
9/29/202152 minutes, 52 seconds
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KILLING TIME: PAUL IS DEAD

This week, the girls and the goth go back in time to 1969 when the “Paul Is Dead” hoax took over Beatlemania! They dive into all of the theories, secret messages, and easter eggs found in their albums and music. They also debate Cheesecake Factory, the top sheet, and...what the hell even is aioli?
9/23/202149 minutes, 4 seconds
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Episode 162: Randall Mercier

Meaghan Rice was the most popular girl in school—and many thought she was the prettiest. Meaghan also had two boyfriends—David and Randall. When David said he was moving away, she concocted a bizarre plot to win his affection and make him stay. It involved a truck, a secret code word, a knife and an unthinkable act of brutality. In episode 162, Jac, Alexis and Billy tell the tale of a true high school nightmare.
9/22/202147 minutes, 15 seconds
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KILLING TIME: MUSICAL TORTURE

This week, the girls and the goth talk all things musical torture. From the bizarre songs used to torture in the CIA, to what songs would drive us insane. We debate the Happy Birthday song, the French Horn, and Imagine Dragons. Also, what song would you want as your “final song”?
9/16/202157 minutes, 57 seconds
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Episode 161: Simeonette Mapes

Two teachers fall in love after discovering their passion for education in one another. After coming home from running errands, the husband finds his wife dead at the bottom of their stairs with several stab wounds. He frantically calls 911, but there is no weapon and no suspect found at the scene. Was it a robbery gone wrong, or something much more sinister? In episode 161, Jac, Alexis and Billy, explore the lies and uncover the deception that led to the loss of an incredible woman's life. 
9/15/202149 minutes, 14 seconds
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KILLING TIME: TREMBLING LOINS

This week, the girls and the goth talk all about the dark history of Elvis, and it’s not what you think. They debate whether warm ketchup and hot guacamole are acceptable or not, and reminisce about finding out that Santa wasn’t real.
9/9/202141 minutes, 27 seconds
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160: Noreen Schmid Boyle Part 3

After his mother’s body was found entombed in the basement of his father’s new house, Collier Boyle has no time to grieve—he now has to testify against his father in court. In episode 160, Jac, Alexis and Billy lay out the details of how Jack Collier planned the murder of his weeks, the brutal aftermath for a little boy who lost both his parents, and how he was able to carve out a life afterwards.
9/8/202140 minutes, 29 seconds
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KILLING TIME: SAY MY NAME

This week the girls and the goth discuss the great London fire and weird serial killer names. They debate cold pizza, hangover cures, and creepy white vans. Plus, they need your help coming up with their serial killer monikers. Help them on Instagram!
9/2/202146 minutes, 22 seconds
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159: Noreen Schmid Boyle Part 2

When Collier Boyle wakes up, his father tells him his mother has “gone on a little vacation.” But the 11~year old boy knew better. He knew his father was lying, and he was determined to find the truth. In episode 159, Jac, Alexis and Billy tell a tale of double lives, betrayal and a little boy working secretly with the police to bring his own father to justice.
9/1/202141 minutes, 42 seconds
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KILLING TIME: BO$$ BABE

This week, the girls and the goth dig into the dark, predatory history of MLMs. They debate whether they love or hate water parks, read receipts, and clapping when the plane lands. Oh, and lots of trash talking Keith Ranierie! Please support the show by checking out our sponsors! Upstart: Find out how Upstart can lower your monthly payments today when you go to UPSTART.com/FIRSTDEGREE Slumber Cloud: Save 10% on your purchase when you go to www.slumbercloud.com and use our exclusive code: FIRSTDEGREE10
8/26/202151 minutes, 12 seconds
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Episode 159: Noreen Schmid Boyle Part 1

A mother tells her 11-year-old son: “if I ever go missing, I would never leave you. But you need to know your father is dangerous.” After the boy hears a scream in the middle of the night, he wakes up to find his mother gone. In episode 159–one of the most intense First Degree stories they’ve ever encountered—Jac, Alexis and Billy tell the tale of The Boyle Family.
8/25/202132 minutes, 55 seconds
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KILLING TIME: SATANIC PANIC

This weekend, the girls and the goth are talking everything satanic panic. They dive into the West Memphis Three, why printed press matters, and is cereal a soup???? Please support the show by checking out our sponsors! Best Fiends: Download the 5 star-rated puzzle game, Best Fiends FREE today on the App Store or Google Play
8/19/202139 minutes, 41 seconds
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Episode 158: The Shrout Family

On May 25, 1994, Sarah went to school like any other day. It was the last week of her 8th grade year and she intended to enjoy every moment of it. What was supposed to be an easy slide into summer took a turn towards tragedy when rumors began circulating through the halls. The violent events of that day would soon be revealed, hitting Sarah closer to home than she ever imagined. In episode 158, Jac, Alexis and Billy are joined by First Degree Sarah as they delve into the horrifying events of that day; dark interests, murder, kidnapping and a school packed with kids.
8/18/202142 minutes, 14 seconds
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KILLING TIME: ICEBERG RIGHT AHEAD

This week, the girls and the goth dive into the dark, dark history of nursery rhymes! They also debate about who should take the armrest on airplane middle seats, iceberg lettuce, and Billy’s deep desire for human connection.
8/12/202140 minutes, 54 seconds
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Episode 157: Jody Plauche Part 2

Police rescue Jody Plauche after he was kidnapped by his karate instructor—and learn the horrific details of what the 10-year-old boy endured at the hands of his captor. When it’s time for his abuser to be brought back to justice, camera crews capture his arrival at the airport—and capture a shocking moment of vigilante justice. In episode 157, Jac, Alexis and Billy are once again joined by Jody as they conclude the tale of Jeff Doucet, Gary Plauchet and Jody Plauchet.
8/11/202135 minutes, 53 seconds
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KILLING TIME: THE PEOPLE'S SHOE

This week the girls call out the goth for complaining about his summer birthday, explore the many Marilyn Monroe conspiracy theories, the polarizing reputation of Birkenstocks (aka the peoples' shoe) and the lost art of stealth party exits.
8/5/202137 minutes, 56 seconds
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Episode 156: Jody Plauche Part 1

In March of 1984, Jody Plauche made national headlines when he was abducted by his karate teacher, Jeff Doucet. A national manhunt ensued before police zeroed in on Motel more than 2,000 miles away. In episode 156, Jac, Alexis and Billy are joined by Jody, who shares his story of betrayal, abduction, and ultimately, his rescue- which was far from the end of his harrowing experience.Please support the show by checking out our sponsors!Slumber Cloud: Save 10% on your purchase with our exclusive code: FIRSTDEGREE10 at www.slumbercloud.com.Seed: Visit seed.com/FIRSTDEGREE and use codeFIRSTDEGREE to redeem 20% off your first month of Seed’s Daily SynbioticUpstart: Find out how Upstart can lower your monthly payments today when you go to UPSTART.com/FIRSTDEGREE.
8/4/202141 minutes, 23 seconds
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KILLING TIME: HANDSHAKES FROM HELL

This week, the girls and the goth dish on the sordid history of the royal family, the blasphemy of reserving a parking spot with your body, the two day Vegas time limit- and how handshakes should be banished eternally.
7/29/202141 minutes, 9 seconds
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Episode 155: Peter Porco Part 2

When the police asked Joan Porco if it was her son who attacked her and her husband with an ax, she nodded yes. But when she came out of a three week coma, she said he had nothing to do with it. But the evidence is stacking against him. What do we believe?
7/28/202152 minutes, 19 seconds
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KILLING TIME: SLIP N' SLIDE FROM HELL

This week on Killing Time, the girls and the goth talk about the history of 911 and react to a few classic 911 calls. Plus, they put Britney Spears' conservatorship on the stand, and have a spirited debate about cheese on chicken sandwiches. Later, they come up with new ways to increase male listenership. Billy will have to do a lot more work.
7/22/202146 minutes, 32 seconds
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Episode 154: Peter Porco Part 1

A man doesn’t show up to his job. A co-worker goes to check on him and sees a smear of blood on the front door. Inside, he finds the man dead, his head bludgeoned. Upstairs, his wife is in bed, clinging to life. And under the covers is a bloody axe. Who could have done this? In episode 154, Jac, Alexis and Billy begin to unravel the horrifying tale of Peter and Joan Porco.
7/21/202146 minutes, 50 seconds
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KILLING TIME: PASTA SMOOTHIES

This week on Killing Time, the girls and the goth dive into the bizarre murders in the happiest country in the world! Plus, they debate the Seinfeld finale, why people hate on women’s voices, and brainstorm a better replacement for paper / pasta straws. No penne Alfredo smoothies, please!
7/15/202147 minutes, 30 seconds
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Episode 153: Alex Stevens Part 3

Megan Shaffer has been arrested for the murder of Alex Stevens. And after months of speculation, we finally hear what Megan says happened that night. She claims that she and Stevens went to the woods to burn possessions in a cleansing ritual. But then they fell off a cliff, both became injured and Stevens asked her to help take his own life. Will the jury believe her? In episode 153, Jac, Alexis and Billy conclude the tale of Alex Stevens and Megan Shaffer.
7/14/202148 minutes, 1 second
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KILLING TIME: DATING SHOWS ARE BANANAS

This week on Killing Time, the girls and the goth take dating games, bridesmaids and bachelor parties to the stand. They also listen to another "worst thing I have ever done story" that involves a toothbrush. Please support the show by checking out our sponsors! Daily Harvest: Go to DAILY HARVEST.com and enter code FIRST to get $25 off your first box! Upstart: Find out how Upstart can lower your monthly payments today when you go to UPSTART.com/FIRSTDEGREE Noom:Sign up for your trial at Noom.com/FIRSTDEGREE.
7/8/202145 minutes, 42 seconds
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Episode 152: Alex Stevens Part 2

A woman who had gone missing breaks into a cabin and calls the police. She is naked, her back and shoulder broken. She tells them that she was with a friend and they fell off a cliff together. She tells them she’s still in the woods, and he didn’t make it. But when they find his naked body, they discover his throat has been slashed. In episode 152, Jac, Alexis and Billy continue the tale of Alex Stevens and Megan Shaffer, which now includes a possible motive.Please support the show by checking out our sponsors!Noom: Start building better habits for healthier, long-term results. Sign up for your trial at Noom.com/FIRSTDEGREEAway: Start your 100-day trial and shop the entire Away lineup of travel essentials, including their best-selling suitcases, at AWAYTRAVEL.com/degree
7/7/202149 minutes, 54 seconds
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KILLING TIME: SOCKS IN THE CITY

This week on Killing Time, the girls and the goth take their listeners requests to the stand! It’s time to settle the debate once and for all about pineapple on pizza, wearing socks to bed, and if a hot dog is actually a sandwich (or is it simply just a meat sling?). They dive into bizarre pandemic crimes, and Billy's hat of sadness is mocked once again.
7/1/202145 minutes, 1 second
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Episode 151: Alex Stevens Part 1

In the middle of the night, a man and a woman go missing in the woods of Savage River State Forest. Their friend finds their cars at the trailhead, along with a pet cat in a carrier, candles and a bottle of motor oil. The events that unfold over the next 24 hours will create one of the most perplexing cases in true crime. In episode 151, Jac, Alexis and Billy begin the tale of Alex Stevens and Megan Shaffer.Stitch Fix: Get started today at StitchFix.com/FIRSTDEGREE and you’ll get 25% off when you keep everything in your Fix!
6/30/202137 minutes, 48 seconds
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KILLING TIME: CAMP TRAUMA

This week, the girls, the goth and the ginger party like it’s the summer of 2001! We debate if Friends is funny or not, try to convince Bennifer to televise their wedding, and Jac reveals the bizarre “games” she played at church camp. This week's got Ted Bundy, King Henry the 8th, blowing up cars, heavy petting, and so much more.
6/24/202143 minutes, 44 seconds
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Episode 150: Down the Stairs

News travels through a middle school in the Pacific Northwest—the wife of a well-liked teacher has died of a tragic accident. But when the police arrive at the scene, things just don’t add up. Then they check the search history on the computer. On episode 150, Jac, Alexis, Billy tell a tale of middle school teacher affairs, Craigslist threesomes and a sociopath hiding in plain sight.
6/23/202159 minutes, 32 seconds
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KILLING TIME: BUTTCHEEKS OF JUSTICE

This week, the girls, the goth and the ginger do a deep dive into notorious crime cars. Billy gets booped, Lex gushes over the return of Costco samples, and Jac disparages the modern day loofah. Plus, you’ll never look at brushing your teeth the same way again.
6/17/202140 minutes, 13 seconds
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Episode 149: Catholic Supply Store Killer Part 2

After being arrested for sexually assaulting two women, and killing a third woman at a Catholic supply store in St. Louis, Missouri, the authorities look deeper into their suspect. Could this horrific and brazen crime have been his only offense? In episode 149, Jac, Alexis and Billy investigate the other potential crimes of Thomas Bruce.
6/16/202147 minutes, 49 seconds
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KILLING TIME: Killer Sound

This week on a very special musical themed Killing Time, the girls, the goth, and the ginger dish on Mario Lopez's 2 week marriage. Billy condemns late 90's alt bands, Lex defends Lil Nas X's sexual pants split, Jac leads the emo resurgence, and Jared mediates with his ginger locks and musical precision.
6/10/202144 minutes, 51 seconds
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Episode 148: Catholic Supply Store Killer Part 1

In November, 2018, a 911 call comes in from a store in the suburbs of St. Louis. A man had just walked into the Catholic supply store with a gun. He ordered three women inside to perform sex acts on him. When one of them said no, he shot her in the head and then fled. In episode 148, Jac, Alexis and Billy tell the tale of the hunt for the rapist and killer, which ends with an arrest of a supposed man of god.
6/9/202144 minutes, 41 seconds
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KILLING TIME: OH, THE PROFANITY!

This week on Killing Time, the girls and the goth defend crime podcast profanity, critique cold-calling without a heads-up text, and hard core call out Lori Vallow & Casey Anthony, Please support the show by checking out our sponsors! Barre3: Listeners get a 15 day free trail & 75% your subscription go to Barre3.com/firstdegree
6/3/202142 minutes, 21 seconds
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Episode 147: Sabrina Bebb-Jones Part 2

31 year-old mother Sabrina Bebb-Jones is missing. Everyone thinks the husband knows something, but no one can prove anything. After a year, he sells the motel they owned together and moves to England to start his new life—as a professional poker player. In episode 147, Jac, Alexis and Billy tell the tale of how a discovery in the desert and a $100,000 poker win sealed the fate of a killer.Please support the show by checking out our sponsors!StoryWorth: Give your dad the most meaningful gift this Father’s Day and get $10 off your first purchase by going to StoryWorth.com/firstdegreeSongFinch: Go to songfinch.com, and use code FIRST for a total of $70 off the perfect gift.
6/2/202144 minutes, 52 seconds
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KILLING TIME: LAST MEALS

This week on Killing Time, the girls and the goth talk about washing your legs in the shower, the utility of golf, whether the mullet is a good look, famous last meals, and human reviews. Noom: Sign up for your trial today at noom.com/FIRSTDEGREE Upstart: Find out how Upstart can lower your monthly payments today when you go to UPSTART.com/FIRSTDEGREE.
5/27/202156 minutes, 7 seconds
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Episode 146: Sabrina Bebb-Jones Part 1

A young couple drops off their child with a babysitter for a quick romantic getaway to Dinosaur National Park. But when the trip is over, only the husband returns to pick up the child. His wife? He says she just got up and left him. In episode 146, Jac, Alexis and Billy begin a tale that includes a missing persons investigation, a move overseas, a big poker tournament win and a desert full of lies,Please support the show by checking out our sponsors!Magic Spoon: Get your next delicious bowl of guilt-free cereal at MagicSpoon,com/FIRSTDEGREE and use the code FIRSTDEGREE to save five dollars offProse: Go to Prose.com/degree for your FREE in-depth hair quiz and 15% off.Seed: Visit seed.com/FIRSTDEGREE and use codeFIRSTDEGREE to redeem 20% off your first month of Seed’s Daily Synbiotic
5/26/202132 minutes
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KILLING TIME: Beware the Murder Hornets

This week on Killing Time, the girls and the goth dish on Scott Peterson theories, Jac's unreasonable love for bucket hats, the enigma that is Gwennyth Paltrow, murder hornets, and whether blindfolding your friend and leaving them in an abandoned warehouse is an appropriate birthday surprise.
5/20/202147 minutes, 38 seconds
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Episode 145: A Murder in Cement

When word spread throughout Cement High School that Billie Joe Powell, a 16-year-old high school sophomore, had shot and killed her father—no one was sure if it was true. It was. But the reason why she did it would expose an entire system that failed to protect her. In episode 145, Jac, Alexis and Billy tell the tale of a teenage girl who fought back against the abuse her family suffered at the hands of her father.Please support the show by checking out our sponsors!Seed: Visit seed.com/FIRSTDEGREE and use codeFIRSTDEGREE to redeem 20% off your first month of Seed’s Daily SynbioticStitch Fix: Go to StitchFix.com/FIRSTDEGREE and you’ll get 25% offDaily Harvest: Go to DAILYHARVEST.com and enter promo code FIRST to get twenty-five dollars off your first box!
5/19/202142 minutes, 7 seconds
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KILLING TIME: Jac Hates Birthday Weeks!

This week on Killing Time, Jac, Alexis and Billy talk about Jac's disdain for the adult birthday week, Billy argues that Hootie & The Blowfish are just as goth as The Cure, and pandemic accessorizing with Alexis.
5/13/202146 minutes, 12 seconds
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Episode 144: A Murder in Ninnekah

A high school junior calls her boyfriend from a payphone in front of an abandoned convenience store—then she’s never heard from again. Her family begins a frantic search, which ends by the creek. In episode 144, Jac, Alexis and Billy tell the tragic small town horror story that forever changed the fabric of this community.Please support the show by checking out the sponsors below:Thrive: Visit ThriveCausemetics.com/degree for 15% off your first order!Warby Parker: Try 5 pairs of glasses at home for free at warbyparker.com/degreeTalkSpace: As a listener of this podcast, you’ll get $100 off of your first month with Talkspace. To match with a licensed therapist today, go to Talkspace.com. Make sure to use the code FIRSTDEGREE to get $100 off of your first month
5/12/202135 minutes, 16 seconds
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KILLING TIME: Oh, The Humanity!

This week on Killing Time, Jac, Alexis & Billy explore historic explosions, secret underground tunnels, the many methods of execution, bare legs on airplanes, the cilantro controversy and Elon Musk's baby.
5/6/202154 minutes, 35 seconds
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Episode 143: "The Formans"

A young mother fails to show up for work. Her husband says his wife, Clara, is sick. But a welfare check is conducted at her house. Her husband now says Clara left him and took the kids with her. The police conduct a search of the house anyway—and discover the truth. In episode 143, Jac, Alexis and Billy cover the tragic case of the Forman family.
5/5/202145 minutes, 39 seconds
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Episode 142: Patricia Marquez

A couple’s argument at a local watering hole leads to an altercation. The drunk and belligerent man is asked to leave by the bar owner and a good samaritan. As he walks away, he vows revenge. In episode 142, Jac, Alexis and Billy tell a tale of how domestic violence can not only affects members of the family—but anyone in the vicinity.
4/28/202148 minutes, 46 seconds
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Episode 141: Ski Mask Rapist Part 2

The conclusion of our two part series on The Bay Area Ski Mask Rapist. Please support the show by checking out our sponsors! Daily Harvest: Go to DAILYHARVEST.com and enter promo code FIRST to get twenty-five dollars off your first box! Audible: Visit Audible.com/degree or text degree to 500-500 OSEA: Get 10% off your first order with my promo code FIRSTDEGREE at OSEAmalibu.com Barre3: Go to barre3.com/FIRSTDEGREE and enter promo code FIRSTDEGREE to unlock 30% off today.
4/21/202125 minutes, 10 seconds
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Episode 140: Ski Mask Rapist Part 1

A young woman is on the phone with her boyfriend, who is out of town on a business trip. She is home alone. She feels a chill, and goes to the thermostat to turn up the heat. But it’s on full blast? Then she looks at the window and realizes why the chill—it’s open, and outside, underneath it is a chair. She runs out of the house, and a swarm of cops run out of the bushes? What the hell is going on? In episode 140, Jac, Alexis and Billy tell the story of the Ski Mask Rapist, and how his reign of terror left more than two dozen survivors in its wake.Please support the show by checking out our sponsors!Prose: Take your FREE in-depth hair quiz and get 15% off your first order today! Go to Prose.com/degreeUpstart: Upstart can lower your monthly payments today when you go to UPSTART.com/FIRSTDEGREE.Talkspace: Go to Talkspace.com. Make sure to use the code FIRSTDEGREE to get $100 off of your first month
4/14/202132 minutes, 4 seconds
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Episode 139: Cathy Callahan

A young girl watches her mother as she answers the phone. She can tell by her body language that something isn’t right. But she had no idea how the world of her family was about to be turned upside down. In episode 139, Jac, Alexis and Billy discuss the attitudes of domestic violence in the 1970s and the case of Cathy Callahan.
4/7/202153 minutes, 31 seconds
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Episode 138: Kelsie Schelling Part 2

Last week we took you through the Feb 4th, 2013 disappearance of 21-year-old Kelsie Schelling. She was on her way to visit her boyfriend—the father of her unborn baby. Based on all the evidence, seemingly everyone believe they knew he was responsible. But the Pueblo police department refused to act . On episode 138, Jac, Alexis and Billy conclude the story of Donthe Lucas and Kelsie Schelling.Please support the show by checking out our sponsors!Fitish:Try Fitish CBD for yourself to get the best wellness in the game at Fitish.com and use the code FIRSTDEGREE15 for 15% off your orderRitual: Ritual is offering First Degree listeners 10% off during your their first 3 months. Visit ritual.com/FIRSTDEGREE to start your Ritual todayUpstart: Find out how Upstart can lower your monthly payments today when you go to UPSTART.com/FIRSTDEGREE
3/31/20211 hour, 5 minutes, 56 seconds
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Episode 137: Kelsie Schelling Part 1

22-year-old Kelsie Schelling has just learned that she was pregnant. She texted a picture of the ultrasound to her boyfriend, Donthe Lucas and drove two hours to see him. Then she disappeared. In episode 137, Jac, Alexis and Billy begin to tell the dark tale of Donthe and KelsiePlease support the show by checking out our sponsors!Fitish CBD: Go to FITISH.com and enter the CODE (FIRSTDEGREE15) at checkout for 15% off your orderAudible: Visit Audible.com/degree or text degree to 500-500OSEA: You can try OSEA risk-free for 30 days and get free shipping on orders over $50. They even send free samples with every order and get 10% off your first order with my promo code FIRSTDEGREE at OSEAmalibu.comCaldrea: Get 20% off with code [FirstDegree20] when you buy online at Caldrea.com
3/24/20211 hour, 2 minutes, 29 seconds
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Episode 136: Dana Laskowski Part 3

The police are zeroing in on the unlikeliest of suspects in Dana’s murder—Dana’s favorite niece and her niece’s best friend. But they still don’t know what actually happened that night. And they don’t know which one of them had the motive and means to kill her. Loose lips...and pages in a journal may lead them to answers. In episode 136, Jac, Alexis and Billy complete the twisted tale of the murder of Dana Laskowski.Please support the show by checking out our sponsors!Hello Fresh: Go to HelloFresh.com/first12 and use code first12 for 12 free meals, including free shipping!Talkspace: As a listener of this podcast, you’ll get $100 off of your first month with Talkspace. To match with a licensed therapist today, go to Talkspace.com or download the app. Make sure to use the code FIRSTDEGREE to get $100 off of your first month and show your support for the show
3/17/202156 minutes, 14 seconds
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Episode 135: Dana Laskowski Part 2

36-year-old Dana Laskowski has been found strangled to death in her home—and there are no shortage of suspects. Her ex-husband, her boyfriend, and her new lover. The police attempt to pull on every string to find the killer. But they have no idea what they are about to find. In episode 135, Jac, Alexis and Billy delve deep into the investigation of who killed Dana, and arrive at a suspect that will shock you.Daily Harvest: Go to DAILYHARVEST.com and enter promo code first to get twenty-five dollars off your first box!Noom: Ready to learn how to live healthier? Sign up for Noom today at NOOM.com/FIRSTDEGREEUpstart: Find out how Upstart can lower your monthly payments today when you go to UPSTART.com/FIRSTDEGREE
3/10/202152 minutes, 46 seconds
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Episode 134: Dana Laskowski Part 1

A 36-year-old mother fails to show up to her nanny job. Police perform a welfare check and find her dead on the couch of her home—a home she just moved into one month prior. She had been strangled by what the medical examiner determined to be a very strong individual. But who? In episode 134, Jac, Alexis and Billy tell the tale of the murder of Dana Laskowski.Please support the show by checking out our sponsors!Ritual: Ritual is offering First Degree listeners 10% off during your first 3 months. Visit ritual.com/FIRSTDEGREE to start your Ritual todayTalkspace: Go to Talkspace.com or download the app. Make sure to use the code FIRSTDEGREE to get $100 off of your first month and show your support for the show
3/3/202153 minutes, 51 seconds
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Episode 132: Brent Fitch

An 18-year-old is found running down the street, screaming, naked and covered in blood. In the house she ran from the police find a horrific scene. In a case that seems cut and dry a dark turn emerges. In episode 132, Jac, Alexis and Billy delve into the case of Brent Fitch—the who, the where, and most importantly— the why.
2/17/202150 minutes, 12 seconds
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Episode 131: Scout Schultz

A student who was thriving on campus, a leader in student groups, with a 3.9 GPA, is shot dead. A police officer is behind the barrel of the gun. On episode 131, Jac, Alexis and Billy tell the tragic tale of Scout Schultz, putting a spotlight on the need for mental health awareness and the need for resources on college campuses—as well as cities across the country.
2/11/202154 minutes, 58 seconds
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Episode 130: The Swiss Cheese Pervert

A group of girls are driving home from a John Mayer concert when a man pulls up next to them. The man reaches out his hand, holding up a piece of Swiss cheese. In his hand: a piece of cheese. In his other hand...well, you get the picture. And this wasn’t the first time he did this. In episode 130, Jac, Alexis and Billy tell the sordid, rancid tale of the Swiss Cheese Pervert, with the help of their first degree Kelsey, and a bonus special guest, Paul Holes.
2/3/20211 hour, 4 minutes, 4 seconds
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Episode 129: DJ Fickey

DJ and Brandy fell in love. They got married and had three children. All seemed good until a guy named Mike entered the picture. A love triangle, physical altercations and a shotgun—Mike’s shotgun—followed. In episode 128, Jac, Alexis and Billy investigate the infuriating case of DJ Fickey.
1/27/202154 minutes, 11 seconds
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Episode 128: The Andrews Family Part 3

In the shocking conclusion to the Andrews family story, a man has been arrested for their murder—a man who had a motive. His girlfriend was sleeping with Mr. Andrews. You will never guess how he tried to explain why his DNA was left at the house and why eyewitnesses spotted him at the scene. On top of that, you’re really not going to believe what happened on the jury. On episode 128, Jac, Alexis and Billy finish the horrific tale of the Andrews Family slaying.Please support the show by checking out our sponsors:Cladrea: Get 20% off with code [FirstDegree20] when you buy online at Caldrea.com
1/20/202146 minutes, 18 seconds
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Episode 127: The Andrews Family Part 2

A husband and wife are found slain in their bedroom—him shot in the head, her beaten to death. Their two year old baby, with blood on his socks, is in the house all alone. The killer having called 911 and placed the phone in his tiny hands. Who could have done this? On episode 126, Jac, Alexis and Billy continue the horrific tale of the Andrews Family slaying in part two of their three part series on the case. Please support the show by checking out our sponsors! Daily Harvest: Go to DAILYHARVEST.com and enter promo code FIRST to get twenty-five dollars off your first box! Noom: Sign up for your trial today at NOOM.com/FIRSTDEGREE.
1/13/202152 minutes, 54 seconds
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Episode 126: The Andrews Family Part 1

The only sound on the 911 call sounded like an infant. Authorities entered the house and found a toddler. But where were his parents? It would take a search of the house to make a startling discovery. On episode 126, Jac, Alexis and Billy begin the twisted tale of the Andrews Family slaying.
1/6/202145 minutes, 27 seconds
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Episode 125: 2020 Is Almost Over

An extended Killin' Time episode where Jac, Alexis & Billy reflect and wax hopeful about 2021 Please support the show by checking out our sponsors! Chil Wellness: Visit Chilwellness.com and enter 25OFF at checkout for 25% off your order. TalkSpace: Go to Talkspace.com or download the app. Make sure to use the code FIRSTDEGREE to get $100 off of your first month and show your support for the show TheRealReal:Download the RealReal app today to shop and sell your favorite luxury brands and get 20% off select items with code REAL. Plus, new shoppers get $25 off their first purchase.