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The Chad & Cheese Podcast

English, Finance, 1 season, 1287 episodes, 3 days, 22 hours, 3 minutes
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Industry veterans Joel Cheesman and Chad Sowash are here to punch the recruiting industry right where it hurts, complete with breaking news, brash opinion, and loads of snark. Chad & Cheese discuss a wide variety of topics and current news stories around recruiting, human resources and employment. Hiring companies, employers and vendors tune in weekly for insights from practitioners, vendors, startups and more.
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Indeed's Staffing Shakeup

In this episode, Chad and Lieven dive into the world of tech startups, recruitment platforms, and AI in the workplace, while Joel is busy perfecting his tan in Vietnam. Lieven plays tech guru as he explains the mind-numbingly simple three steps of Carve's AI platform and contemplates shoehorning it into their already cluttered software. Chad and Lieven then take a joyride through the chaos that is Indeed's expansion into the staffing industry, lamenting how it's going to screw over staffing companies. They toy with the naive idea of staffing companies uniting to create their own job platform, as if herding cats wasn't hard enough. The conversation wraps up with a desperate plea for the staffing industry to wake up and deal with the mess that Indeed is making.
6/17/202445 minutes, 11 seconds
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Fraud, French AI, and Boring Acquisitions: Joonko, Mistral, and Gem

In this episode, Chad and guest host Maureen (Mo) Clough dive into the murky waters of AI scandals and industry dynamics, starting with Joonko’s founder facing SEC charges for defrauding investors, highlighting the persistent problem of AI washing. We question ZipRecruiter’s claim of being a “great place to work” amid listener skepticism about their treatment of employees. Mistral AI’s significant funding round signals continued enthusiasm for AI technologies, while McKinsey’s research reveals accelerating adoption and notable benefits of generative AI. We also tackle ageism in tech, discuss AI's transformative potential in hiring and content creation, explore the controversy over age restrictions in restaurants, and scrutinize the issue of excessive CEO compensation, proposing that executive pay be tied to the wages of their lowest-paid workers. Join us as we unpack these hot topics with a blend of insight and snark.
6/14/202452 minutes, 28 seconds
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SmartRecruiters Unplugged with Interim CEO Rebecca Carr

To say the ATS business is a challenging one these days would be an understatement. Between mergers and acquisitions, slumbering IPO ambitions and figuring out the whole AI Revolution, staying ahead of the game is complex. That's why we invited SmartRecruiters interim CEO and CPO Rebecca Carr to the show. She's an industry veteran with a good story to tell and as an industry product person to the bone, she can add nuance to the landscape. Covering everything from the hibernating IPO speculation to the botched acquisition with iCIMS to her time with - wait for it - Branchout, a high flying player from over a decade ago, who flamed out and die at the hand of Facebook before it really caught fire. It'a a walk down Memory Land, and a glimpse into the future that's a must-listen.
6/12/202430 minutes, 8 seconds
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The Unicorn Parade with Jason Corsello

The world of venture capital is a mystery to most. Who gets funded and why? What's the math around valuations? And why is there so much "betting on the jockey"? So many questions with so few answers. That's why we invited Jason Corsello, founder and general partner at Acadian Ventures, on the podcast. He'll help us better understand the unicorn parade from a few years back, which resulted in a VC winter, which has led to the gradual thawing of capital into the world of work. What kind of companies are getting his attention, and wallet share, and what advice does he give to startups looking to raise that first seed round of capital. The veils are being lifted and the crystal balls are coming out on this one. Enjoy. Chapters 00:00 Introduction and Background 03:14 The Unicorn Parade and VC Winter 07:16 Opportunities for Seed Investors 10:23 The Thaw and the Future of Venture Capital 16:23 Investment Themes: AI, Compliance, and Global Workforce 22:36 Advantages and Disadvantages of Incumbents in Leveraging Data 23:53 Challenges of Integrating HR Tech Systems 26:15 Evaluating Startup Pitches and the Importance of Referrals 29:55 Evaluating European Startups vs. US Startups 33:49 The Potential for Disruption in the ATS Market 35:23 Best Bets, Worst Mistakes, and Missed Opportunities in Venture Capital
6/10/202436 minutes, 58 seconds
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Ashby Gets Cash, Seek Pulls Out, and Hockey Hooters

Get ready for another wild ride with the Chad & Cheese Podcast! Joel Cheesman and Chad Sowash kick things off by gushing over Ronaldo and reminiscing about D-Day, because why not mix soccer and history? Shoutouts abound, from Dennis "Tepperdamis" Tupper's eerie predictions to Sweet Green's robot salad makers.  Next up, they dive into Ashby's latest funding round, wondering if this ATS can stay the "hot chick" in a fickle market. Seek pulls out of Latin America, and Chad has some colorful memories of OCC Mexico. The guys then shred Rubio's Coastal Grill for blaming California's $20 minimum wage for their bankruptcy and eviscerating Walmart's "generous" employee bonuses. Flight attendants are fed up, and Chad channels his inner union boss, while Joel fears the future of paid service for basic flight amenities. Finally, in the most important segment of all, an Edmonton Oilers fan's flashing antics spark a debate on the year of the boobs. Because, really, what's a podcast without some hockey Hooters? Tune in for laughs, rants, and the inevitable dad joke to cap it all off. Chapters with Timestamps 00:00 - Opening Banter 02:21 - D-Day 05:53 - Tupper Indeed Prediction 08:10 - Recfest, Singapore, & Guest Hosts 15:01 - Ashby more like Cashby 22:53 - Seek Pulls Out 28:48 - Walmart & American Airlines BS 42:24 - Hockey Hooters
6/7/202445 minutes, 47 seconds
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Shredded: Deel, Ashby, Indeed Flex, Dice, Carv, Ph.Creative, ClearanceJobs, HappyDance & More

The Shred is a weekly roundup of who’s raised funds, who’s been acquired and who’s on the move in the world of recruitment. The Shred is brought to you today by Jobcase.
6/6/20245 minutes, 45 seconds
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The Evolution of the Workforce with Janine Yancey

Recorded LIVE from Transform earlier this year. This episode explores the dynamic changes in the modern workplace including in-depth conversations with Janine Yancey, the CEO and founder of Emtrain. With her rich background as an employment lawyer and her innovative work, Janine provides unique perspectives on transforming HR practices, compliance training, and workplace culture. Episode Chapters 0:00:00 - Podcast Intro 0:00:23 - Live from Transform Las Vegas 0:00:42 - Welcoming Janine Yancey 0:01:03 - Janine Yancey's Background 0:04:03 - Differentiating in a Competitive Market 0:06:10 - Partnerships with Industry Leaders 0:07:39 - Developing Management Skills 0:08:26 - Measuring Team Chemistry 0:09:49 - Building a Unified Team Culture 0:11:00 - Launching New People Analytics Tools 0:14:02 - The Impact of AI on Work 0:17:20 - Evolution of the Workforce
6/5/202422 minutes, 30 seconds
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Gerry Tales from Unleash

To know industry icon Gerry Crispin is to love Gerry Crispin. And if you missed our Gerry Tales series, do yourself a favor and check it out at https://www.chadcheese.com/gerry-crispin. Then come back for an after-hours interview with Gerry live from Unleash in Las Vegas. It's a walk down Memory Lane, a breath of fresh air for our times, and a sobering forecast of where things might be going. Chapters: 0:00:00 - Introduction and Welcome 0:00:35 - Gerry Crispin's Background 0:02:17 - Early Days and Formation of CareerXroads  0:03:09 - The Internet and Job Boards Revolution 0:05:49 - Writing and Publishing the First Book 0:14:45 - Transition to Building a Community 0:16:35 - Reflecting on the Evolution of Talent Acquisition 0:17:31 - AI and the Future of Recruiting  0:19:42 - Current State of Talent Acquisition Technology 0:25:11 - Improving Recruiting Efficiency and Integration 0:30:40 - DEI and the Supreme Court Decision Impact  0:36:01 - Corporate Responsibility and Community Engagement 0:37:01 - Insights from the UNLEASH Conference 0:38:16 - Conclusion and Gerry’s Contact Information
6/3/202443 minutes, 3 seconds
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Exposed: Indeed Masterplan | Cornerstone'd & SkyHive'd as a Kite

This week, the boys cover a wide range of topics, including favorite new TV shows, shoutouts, events, and industry news, including a possible meltdown at DailyPay and a day of reckoning for Joonko. They dig into the recent acquisition of Teamable by Humanly and the acquisition of SkyHive Technologies by Cornerstone OnDemand. Plus, the uncover Indeed's strategic plans for market expansion shared on a corporate video. Then, WeWork better beware, 'cause Chuck E. Cheese is coming for a piece of its pizza pie as a remote workspace of choice. 00:00 - Intro and Entertainment 03:51 - Industry News and Acquisitions 13:11 - Events and Celebrations 18:39 - Humanly Acquisition 26:26 - CornerSone Acquisition 26:52 - Indeed's Market Expansion Strategy 27:34 - Challenges of Skills-Based Hiring 43:37 - Chuck E. Cheese as a Remote Workspace
5/31/202446 minutes, 56 seconds
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Shredded: Indeed, Cornerstone OnDemand, Humanly, Teamable, DailyPay, 10x.team, Jobtoolz & More

The Shred is a weekly roundup of who’s raised funds, who’s been acquired and who’s on the move in the world of recruitment. The Shred is brought to you today by Jobcase.
5/30/20246 minutes, 42 seconds
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Cancel Culture and Respectful Disagreement with Justin Jones-Fosu

The pendulum goes back-and-forth. In 2021, a survey was published that showed people had never been more afraid to speak their minds (a shocking 9 out of 10 people have felt emotionally or physically unsafe to speak their mind more than once in the past 18 months. Unsurprisingly, the conversation topics that have generated the most fear include political or social issues (74%) and COVID-19 issues (70%). It was the peak of MeToo and George Floyd cancel culture. Fast forward to today, and thought leaders from Professor Scott Galloway to James Carville are pushing back. It's a lot to digest. That's why we invited Justin Jones-Fosu, founder and CEO of Work. Meaningful. to the show. Author of the upcoming book "Respectfully Disagree," Justin and the boys cover a wide array of topics that many are afraid to bridge, but shouldn't be. If you've ever found yourself keeping quiet, instead of engaging, this is a must-listen. And if you speak your mind on every occasion to do so, it might just be for you too.
5/29/202441 minutes, 28 seconds
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Indeed's 'Dumb Tax' & Seekout Cuts

In this episode of the Chad and Cheese Podcast, the boys discuss their experiences in Scotland, including trying haggis and visiting distilleries. They also give shoutouts to Jobs on Google and Workplace by Facebook. The hosts talk about upcoming events and the differences between Glasgow and Edinburgh. They also share their visit to Glenkinchie distillery and their tasting experience. The conversation covers their experiences in Scotland, the Glasgow event, and insights from the event. Plus, they discuss the layoffs at Seekout and the challenges the company is facing. They also talk about Indeed's decision to prioritize paid postings over organic traffic, increasing the "dumb tax" on lazy employers. 00:00 - Exploring Scotland: Haggis and Distilleries 12:26 - Glasgow vs. Edinburgh: Contrasting Cities 15:33 - Tasting Experience at Glenkinchie Distillery 16:29 - Experiences in Scotland 23:08 - Challenges at Seekout: A Go-to-Market Problem 31:59 - Indeed's Shift to Paid Postings 35:38 - Reducing Reliance on External Platforms
5/24/202439 minutes, 42 seconds
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Shredded: Seekout, Meta, Workvivo, LinkedIn, fynk, Code Nation, VEDA & More

The Shred is a weekly roundup of who’s raised funds, who’s been acquired and who’s on the move in the world of recruitment. The Shred is brought to you today by Jobcase.
5/23/20246 minutes, 56 seconds
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Talkin' 'Bout a Revolution with Fuel50 Founder & CEO

On this episode, the boys are chatting with Anne Fulton, founder and CEO of Fuel 50. They dive into the impact of AI on businesses, the revolution in talent management, and the evolution of education in a skills-based economy. Anne emphasizes the importance of employee voice, data-driven change, and branding in today's workforce. Discover the origin of Fuel 50's name and its mission to match people with opportunities. Don't miss this lively discussion on HR, talent management, and the future of work. Connect with Anne and learn more about Fuel 50 at fuel50.com.
5/22/202427 minutes, 19 seconds
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What's Next for Tech Talent with Mark Chaffey

According to Layoffs.fyi, over 200,000 tech industry employees lost their jobs in 2023, and almost 50,000 have already been laid off this year. So what's going on? Well, it's complicated, but - spoiler alert - the world isn't ending for tech pros looking for great opportunities. To help us make sense of it all, we invited Mark Chaffey, CEO at Hackajob on the podcast to understand it all. What's the impact of generative AI and ChatGPT on tech jobs? How can junior tech pros evolve? And what is going on with seed round-level startups after the dust has settled. If you hire techies, it's a must listen to survive today's challenging landscape.
5/20/202437 minutes, 4 seconds
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Indeed Layoffs, ZipRecruiter Cat Turds & Eightfold Smoke and Mirrors

This week, the boys discuss various topics including Indeed's layoffs, the ban on lab-grown meat in Alabama, Jerry Seinfeld's commencement speech, and the financial struggles of ZipRecruiter. They also dig into the introduction of Eightfold Talent Tracking, and the partnership between Stack Overflow and Indeed. They express their disappointment with ZipRecruiter's performance and call for better leadership. They criticize Eightfold for expanding too quickly and losing focus, and they mock the buzzword-filled description of their new product. They also question the strategy behind Twitter's, er, X's job recommendations and express their frustration with the lack of innovation. Finally, they discuss the controversy surrounding the Portal Project between New York and Dublin and how an OnlyFans model reminds us how much we all love boobies ... or is it potatoes? Eh, just listen.
5/17/202455 minutes, 16 seconds
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Shredded: Indeed, ZipRecruiter, Upwork, Fiverr, Anthropos, Sona, Worky, Sesame, AimHi Earth & More

The Shred is a weekly roundup of who’s raised funds, who’s been acquired and who’s on the move in the world of recruitment. The Shred is brought to you today by Jobcase.
5/16/20249 minutes, 6 seconds
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Firing Squad: HR Geckos' Jay Polaki

Jay Polaki, CEO and founder of HR Geckos, joins the Chad and Cheese Podcast for a session of Firing Squad. HR Geckos is an HR operations co-pilot that automates key HR processes, connects all HR systems, and provides an AI-powered help desk for HR. Jay shares her personal journey in HR and the inspiration behind starting HR Geckos. The company aims to replace fragmented HR systems with a unified, digital platform that connects employees to the information and services they need. Jay discusses the competitive landscape, pricing, go-to-market strategy, and the importance of partnerships. The hosts provide feedback and advice on raising funds, building a team, and scaling the business. Does she survive the Firing Squad? Gotta listen to find out.
5/15/202435 minutes, 24 seconds
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The HR Circus: Juggling Budgets, Boomers, and Blunders

Strap in for another episode of HR's most irreverent show where we dive headfirst into the HR abyss. The Chad & Cheese sit down with John Baldino, a man who’s been around the HR block longer than our interns have been alive, and dissect everything that's hilariously wrong (and sometimes right) in the world of human resources. Fear Factor: HR Edition: Why is HR so terrified of the C-suite? We'll explore the existential dread of asking for more budget and why HR prefers to live in the land of "No Money, Mo' Problems." Tech Wreck Tech Deck: Listen as we ridicule the shiny new HR technologies that promise the moon but deliver a piece of cheese. John breaks down why these tools often end up as expensive digital paperweights. The Boomerang Boomers: Why are retirees flooding back to the workforce? Is it for the love of the job or just because they can't afford Netflix on their pensions? We'll look at why the golden years are now being spent in cubicles rather than on cruises. Leadership or Lack Thereof: Get ready for John's rant on why today's HR leaders might just be masquerading as competent professionals. Spoiler alert: It involves a lot of snark and some uncomfortable truths about leadership (or the absence of it). Tune in for an episode that promises to be as enlightening as it is entertaining, with plenty of laughs, a few cringes, and maybe some existential questioning of your career choices. Don't forget to leave your sensibilities at the door—this ride isn’t for the faint of heart or the humorless in HR.
5/13/202424 minutes, 15 seconds
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UpWork is Blowin' Up, Unleash's 'Magic' Trick

Live from Unleash in Vegas, the boys are covering the conference and all the wild 'n' wonderful things they've done with sponsors Outhire.ai, Jobpixel and Plum (while looking good in some Montreal Canadiens jerseys from HiringBranch), while also covering some of the hottest news from the week. What's that, you ask? How about Upwork crushing their quarterly earnings, a "Big Nude Boat" cruise and a roundup of all things Unleash, which included a keynote from Magic Johnson. Plus, new CEOs at VONQ and a new CTO at iCIMS. Enjoy.
5/10/202438 minutes, 48 seconds
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Shredded: VONQ, UpWork, iCIMS, Kelly Services, Job&Talent, SonicJobs, OfferUp & More

The Shred is a weekly roundup of who’s raised funds, who’s been acquired and who’s on the move in the world of recruitment. The Shred is brought to you today by Jobcase.
5/9/20246 minutes, 49 seconds
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Revving to a HireRoad with Kristen Boyle

In this episode of HR's Most Dangerous Podcast, co-hosts Chad and Joel are joined by Kristen Boyle, the vibrant VP of Marketing at HireRoad. Recorded live on day two of the Transform conference in Las Vegas, the episode dives deep into Kristen's recent career move, HireRoad's strategic direction, and her insights on the evolving HR technology landscape. Highlights: - Kristen introduces herself, sharing her six-week tenure at HireRoad and her rich history in HR tech with companies like Amazon and Indeed. - Formerly known as Ascendre, this Australian ATS has recently been rebranded as HireRoad, aiming to make a mark in the HR tech arena with new leadership and innovative products like People Insight by HireRoad. - Kristen discusses the challenges and strategies in rebranding and marketing in a competitive industry, emphasizing understanding diverse customer bases and leveraging partnerships. - The conversation turns to the role of AI and data analytics in HR, where Kristen elaborates on HireRoad's capabilities in people analytics and predictive analytics, and how these tools aid in succession planning and talent retention.
5/8/202424 minutes, 29 seconds
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Booze, Gummies, and AI: A No-BS Look at HR Tech & Podcasting

In this riotous episode, Chad and Joel are joined by Adam Posner, in what can only be described as a collaboration no one asked for but everyone will painfully endure. From discussing the endurance required to survive HR tech conferences without succumbing to the temptations of free booze and dubious gummies, to diving headfirst into the murky waters of AI and vaporware, no topic is off-limits and no vendor is safe. Whether you're an HR veteran or just trying to get through your commute without falling asleep at the wheel, tune in for a mix of brash opinions, occasional wisdom, and relentless mockery of everything the HR tech industry holds dear. Just remember, you were warned. So buckle up, it’s going to be a bumpy ride, and by the end, you might just find yourself wishing you had spent your time doing literally anything else.
5/6/202418 minutes, 17 seconds
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LinkedIn Plays Games & Hired.com Take Dirt Nap

This week, the boys discuss various topics including their upcoming trips, shoutouts to listeners, the NFL draft, AI girlfriends, and the shutdown of Hired.com. They also touch on LinkedIn's revenue growth despite a weaker hiring environment. LinkedIn has launched three in-app games to engage users and potentially monetize through a subscriptions model. The games aim to make the platform more sticky and increase user engagement. This move is part of LinkedIn's strategy to expand beyond recruiter seats and tap into the larger market of marketing and advertising spend. While the games may not have a significant impact on revenues, they are a step towards making LinkedIn a more captivating platform.
5/3/202439 minutes, 59 seconds
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Shredded: LinkedIn, DailyPay, Greenhouse, Tesla, Job&Talent, Advantage.ai, Grayscale & More

The Shred is a weekly roundup of who’s raised funds, who’s been acquired and who’s on the move in the world of recruitment. The Shred is brought to you today by Jobcase.
5/2/20246 minutes, 50 seconds
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Happy Rebels in Recruitment with Rika Coppens

Welcome to the “HAPPY REBELS,” episode a no-holds-barred journey through the chaotic, snark-filled corridors of human resources with the fearless Rika Coppens at the helm. As CEO of House of HR, Rika tears down conventional walls, sometimes literally, all while her company pulls in cool billions. Want to learn how to balance being a Happy Rebel and a powerhouse CEO? Or maybe just figure out whether chatbots are killing your vibe more than your operational inefficiencies? Dive into the depths of European HR like never before, from the comfort of your own headphones. Forget the bland and the boring—here, it’s all about shocking stats, bold strategies, and a sprinkle of HR snark, because who says employment strategies have to be dry? Not us, and certainly not Rika. Buckle up; it’s going to be a rebelliously enlightening ride!
5/1/202428 minutes, 41 seconds
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Transforming Talent Acquisition into a Revenue Engine with Data

In this episode, Desiree Goldey, director, talent operations & culture at ZRG Partners, dives into the transformation of talent acquisition (TA) from a cost center to a revenue driver. She underscores the pivotal role of data in showcasing TA's contribution to revenue growth through metrics like cost per hire and quality of hire. Goldey emphasizes the need for HR and TA to collaborate closely with other departments, such as marketing, to enhance overall efficiency. She also touches on the impact of automation on recruiting processes and the future of HR in a more automated and flexible landscape. Goldey advocates for updating outdated processes and embracing a hybrid work model for better talent management. She concludes with a call for data-driven decision-making in HR and TA, especially in diversity, equity, and inclusion efforts.
4/29/202429 minutes, 49 seconds
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Workday A.I. vs EEOC

This week, Chad & Cheese discuss various topics including the EEOC targeting Workday, non-competes taking a hit, and the acquisition of Pivot CX by Daxtra. They also talk about their upcoming events in Scotland and Vegas, jumping off the Stratosphere, as well as the ban on TikTok. The conversation covers a range of themes including technology, acquisitions, events, and current news. They discuss recent developments at ZipRecruiter, LinkedIn, and Workday. They also touch on the banning of non-compete agreements, the raising of the salary threshold for overtime eligibility, and the unionization of Volkswagen workers in Chattanooga. The conversation concludes with a discussion on a TikTok influencer partnering with Shake Shack and Chipotle's success with their new chicken offering ... take that, Chik-fil-A.
4/26/202455 minutes, 43 seconds
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Shredded: Workday, Rippling, Greenhouse, Langdock, Keep Company, ShiftMed & More

The Shred is a weekly roundup of who’s raised funds, who’s been acquired and who’s on the move in the world of recruitment. The Shred is brought to you today by Jobcase.
4/25/20247 minutes, 2 seconds
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Diversity or Diversion? The Blair Fambro Confessions

Brace yourselves for the roller coaster ride of snark that is the "Chad and Cheese Podcast." It's your audacious dive into the world of HR, where co-hosts Chad Sowash and Joel Cheesman take no prisoners and spare no feelings. Each episode is a concoction of brash opinions, industry insights, and a healthy dose of mockery, aimed at anyone within earshot. Join us as we dissect the recruiting world, interview industry bigwigs like Blair Fambro from Hershey, and generally wreak havoc in the most delightful way possible. If you're looking for political correctness, you've taken a wrong turn somewhere.
4/24/202421 minutes, 18 seconds
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Here's Why Executive Search is Whack!

In this podcast episode, the boys chat with Kyle Samuels, founder & CEO at Creative Talent Endeavors. The conversation revolves around the intricacies of executive search, focusing on retained executive search and its traditional practices. The discussion highlights the challenges and dynamics of the industry, including high fees, limited diversity, and the impact of remote work on recruitment. Kyle emphasizes the importance of human connection in the workplace and suggests ways for startups to navigate their first executive search. The episode concludes with a light-hearted note about Kyle's favorite Taco Bell meal.
4/22/202431 minutes, 26 seconds
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Time for ZipRecruiter's CEO to Go?

In this episode of the Chad and Cheese podcast, the boys discuss various topics including the Paradox' Analyst Day, the exit of Vonq from the US market, and the success of CV Wallet. They also touch on the news of Rippling's potential $13 billion valuation, the rebranding of Broadbean and Pandologic to Veritone Hire, and the acquisition of Cannabis Temp by Vangst. The hosts also mention the addition of a verified recruiter badge on LinkedIn profiles. The episode concludes with a discussion on the challenges and potential of Veritone Hire and the future of job distribution. In this conversation, Chad and Joel discuss various topics including the consolidation of brands, the potential of AI in the recruitment industry, the challenges of the cannabis market, and the leadership fails of ZipRecruiter, Nike, and Bear. They also play a game of 'Who'd You Rather' and share their thoughts on recent funding rounds. Overall, the conversation highlights the importance of innovation, adaptability, and effective leadership in today's business landscape.
4/19/202440 minutes, 4 seconds
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Shredded: ZipRecruiter, LinkedIn, Factorial, Draftboard, CV Wallet, Vangst, Veremark & More

The Shred is a weekly roundup of who’s raised funds, who’s been acquired and who’s on the move in the world of recruitment. The Shred is brought to you today by Jobcase.
4/18/20247 minutes, 29 seconds
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Europe's Job&Talent's Growth in the US Market

In this episode, the boys discuss various topics from Europe, including the growth of Job&Talent in the US market, the Automatic Wage Indexing System in Belgium, and the German court ruling that robots must take Sundays off. Job&Talent's recent success in the US market and its focus on high-volume shift work starts off the news analysis, also discussing the potential impact of immigration policies on the demand for hourly and gig workers in the US. Covering a range of timely and diverse topics, they cover additional topics including the acquisition of Orgnostic by Culture Amp, the commoditization of HR analytics platforms, and highlights from the recent E-Recruitment Congress event organized by Lieven and his team at House of HR.
4/17/202437 minutes, 26 seconds
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Firing Squad: Boostpoint CEO Sam Beiler

"Leave job boards in the dust." A bold statement for sure, but Sam Beiler, CEO and co-founder at Boostpoint, believes his startup has the muscle to really stick it to the job board industry. How? With a mix of social media marketing, automation, SMS and lots more, like - of course - an AI writing assistant. A lovely cocktail, for sure, but is it enough to put Indeed out of business. Well, about that ... oh, you'll just have to listen to find out what we think of Boostpoint.
4/15/202435 minutes, 24 seconds
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LinkedIn Streaming: A Love Story Fraught with Technical Difficulties

This week, the boys discuss the recent layoffs at Checkr and the launch of connected TV (CTV) and live event ads on LinkedIn. They speculate on Checkr's future and the potential for LinkedIn to tap into the B2B market with video advertising. They also highlight the importance of targeting decision-makers and the challenges of streaming partnerships. In this conversation, Joel and Chad discuss various topics including the potential for LinkedIn to automate job ads on streaming services, the diverging paths of Job.com and Job&Talent, the acquisition of Searchlight by Multiverse, and the partnership between Waymo and UberEats for automated food delivery. They also play a game of 'Who'd You Rather' between Summer and Cariloop. Automation, recruitment, and the future of work ... throw in a fat man in a red suit and you've got Christmas.
4/12/202450 minutes, 21 seconds
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Shredded: LinkedIn, Homebase, Cariloop, Multiverse, CareerArc, Lumina, StepsConnect & More

The Shred is a weekly roundup of who’s raised funds, who’s been acquired and who’s on the move in the world of recruitment. The Shred is brought to you today by Jobcase.
4/11/20246 minutes, 25 seconds
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Talent Acquisition Tales from Bar Taco with Sheri Zippo

In this episode of the Chad & Cheese Podcast, hosts Joel Cheeseman and Chad Sowash dive into the world of talent acquisition with Sher Zippo, a specialist from Bar Taco, a restaurant brand renowned for its upscale casual street food and innovative service model. Zippo shares insights into Bar Taco's unique approach to hiring, leveraging technology like QR codes to enhance both customer and employee experiences, and maintaining a fun, equitable work environment across their 30 locations. The conversation covers everything from the origins of Bar Taco, the challenges of scaling in the hospitality industry, to the impact of automation and the importance of human interaction in creating a memorable dining experience. Zippo emphasizes the brand's commitment to competitive salaries, team-based service, and a culture that prioritizes fun and professional growth, making Bar Taco not just a place to eat, but a place to build a career.
4/10/202418 minutes, 25 seconds
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Revolutionizing DEI with Debbie Tang and Ryan Whitacre

In this episode, join us as we sit down with Debbie Tang and Ryan Whitacre from Bridge Partners, a leading executive search firm focusing on diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI) initiatives. Debbie, a former lawyer from DC, and Ryan, adopted from Seoul and raised in Flint, Michigan, share their unique journeys into executive search and their passion for DEI. We delve into why DEI is a cornerstone at Bridge Partners, tracing its roots back to the early 2000s when multiculturalism was at the forefront. Our guests discuss a recent survey they conducted on DEI initiatives in corporate America, revealing that 80% of respondents consider DEI important, with it ranking as the top priority among non-core business initiatives. The conversation also touches on the challenges faced by Chief Diversity Officers, who often have the shortest tenure in the C-suite due to a lack of support and resources within companies. Join us as we explore the evolving landscape of DEI in organizations and the future of leadership diversity.
4/8/202439 minutes, 12 seconds
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Indeed Attacks LinkedIn

In this episode, the boys discuss the recent upgrades at Indeed, including the revamped user profile page and the introduction of AI-powered writer and smart sourcing suites. They also talk about LinkedIn's testing of TikTok-style video options. Chad criticizes Indeed for focusing on the top of the funnel and not moving down the funnel to provide better data for matching candidates. Joel sees Indeed's upgrades as a direct response to LinkedIn's shortcomings and believes that the video feature will increase engagement and interest from advertising agencies. In this episode, Chad and Joel discuss various topics including the potential for LinkedIn to compete with Twitter for advertising dollars, the buy or sell game featuring MetaView, Modal, and Home from College, the impact of minimum wage laws on fast food workers, Amazon's decision to replace its Just Walk Out technology with smart carts, and Apple's exploration of mobile robots for the home.
4/5/202456 minutes, 42 seconds
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Shredded: LinkedIn, Indeed, Employ, Inc., Metaview, Seso, Inner AI, Modal & More

The Shred is a weekly roundup of who’s raised funds, who’s been acquired and who’s on the move in the world of recruitment. The Shred is brought to you today by Jobcase.
4/4/20247 minutes, 32 seconds
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Fit to Be Tied with Liz Owens

In this episode of Talent Acquisition Week 2024, Liz Owens, the Talent Acquisition Manager at West Coast Fitness, joins Chad & Cheese for a laid-back therapy session. Liz delves into the intricacies of hiring for a renowned brand within the profitable fitness sector, discusses the challenges of collaborating with HR technology providers, and educates Joel on why the phrase "Fitness pizza in my mouth" isn't an accurate application of the word 'fitness' in the workplace.
4/3/202424 minutes, 38 seconds
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Transform Onstage: A Dive into HR Innovation and Challenges

In this riveting episode of HR's most dangerous podcast, Chad Sowash and Joel Cheesman take the stage at Transform in Las Vegas, Nevada, alongside a distinguished panel of HR leaders. Carolyn Frey from Hungry Root, Jessica Swank from Box, and Joey Lee from Panda share their unfiltered insights on a broad range of pressing HR topics. From leveraging AI in talent acquisition and management to navigating the complexities of remote work, this episode is packed with thought-provoking discussions. The panelists delve into how their organizations are pushing the envelope in HR technology, addressing talent shortages, and fostering diversity, equity, inclusion, and belonging in today's evolving workplace. Tune in for an enlightening conversation that punches the recruiting industry right where it hurts, all while offering loads of snark and invaluable perspectives on HR's future.
4/1/202444 minutes, 39 seconds
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Indeed's New Buffet on Your Budget

This week on Chad & Cheese, Blueboard has shut down due to financial struggles. Indeed is rumored to be changing its policy on how employers can contact veterans, while apparently eliminating organic traffic in the US. Microsoft appoints Mustafa Suleyman as CEO of its AI division to compete with OpenAI, Google, and other Big Tech companies. Anthropic's Claude 3 Opus surpasses GPT-4 on the Chatbot Arena leaderboard, marking the first non-OpenAI model to do so. Mark Zuckerberg is also personally recruiting Google DeepMind talent for Meta AI without requiring interviews. HR AI is also on the rise, with Toronto-based Borderless AI and its HR assistant Alberni securing $27 million in seed funding. Hippocratic AI raises $53 million in Series A funding, bringing its valuation to $500 million. Economists argue that immigration has been a major boon for the economy, boosting employment and consumer spending. Policymakers like Federal Reserve Chairman Jay Powell acknowledge the benefits of migration on labor shortages. BMW is testing robot workers at its South Carolina plant, and a controversy at a Florida school over a mother's OnlyFans account sticker on her car led to the expulsion of nine students.
3/29/202453 minutes, 58 seconds
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Shredded: Job&Talent, Seek, Culture Amp, Borderless AI, ZayZoon, Cloverleaf & More

The Shred is a weekly roundup of who’s raised funds, who’s been acquired and who’s on the move in the world of recruitment. The Shred is brought to you today by Jobcase.
3/28/20248 minutes, 25 seconds
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Money Power with Nico Simko

Paying employees as soon as they clock out of a grueling day of work seems like science fiction, but it shouldn't. That's why we invited Nico Simko, founder & CEO at Clair, a company who helps employees get paid as soon as possible to the podcast. Nico's also a Forbes 30 Under 30 and a Harvard grad. Founded 2019, they've raised $194.6M, and have 80 employees. But while it's as common sense idea, it's not without its detractors, including those who claim businesses like his are just a payday loan scam preying on the poor and desperate. So, an invaluable tool to improve retention and solve the problem of absenteeism, or the devil? You decide.
3/27/202429 minutes, 39 seconds
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Shredded: LinkedIn, Glassdoor, Daxtra, Hippocratic AI, NOVA & More

The Shred is a weekly roundup of who’s raised funds, who’s been acquired and who’s on the move in the world of recruitment. The Shred is brought to you today by Jobcase.
3/26/20246 minutes, 7 seconds
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AI Guru Strikes Again

Nothing strikes fear into the hearts of employers or the vendors that service them quite like the threat of a lawsuit. These days, legal challenges and the opportunity to take a business to court are aplenty ... compliments of artificial intelligence. Whether it's an entire block of countries like the EU, or individual states like California and New York, the risk of new laws and regulations putting an organization at risk are higher than they've ever been. That's why we had to get Guru Sethupathy, co-founder and CEO at FairNow, a company that helps ensure your AI solutions are compliant and well-governed, on the show for a quick check-in not the current State of AI. Whether it's the UK adopting it’s own alternative approach to regulating AI, California's Safe and Secure Innovation for Frontier Artificial Intelligence Systems Act, NYC Local Law 144 or even India's latest regulations on hiring, we need a guru - yep, pun intended - to help us better understand what's going on. It's a must-listen if your hiring practices leverage AI or if your company provides such services to employers.
3/25/202440 minutes, 4 seconds
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LinkedIn Plays Games

In today's episode, we're diving into the world of LinkedIn, where reports suggest the platform is dipping its toes into gaming with puzzle-based experiences like "Queens" and "Inference." But is LinkedIn playing games or getting serious about engagement? We'll discuss. But first, let's talk funding. Milan's Talentware just secured €800,000 for its AI-driven SaaS platform, while NOVA, a freelancer hub, snagged $1.75M in seed funding. Talent management software is hot, folks, and NOVA's growth from a private Instagram page to a powerhouse in the freelance world is impressive. Now, onto the self-serve saga. Big retailers like Dollar General, Target, and Walmart are rethinking self-checkout due to theft concerns and customer experience woes. Dollar General's pulling out self-checkouts in some stores, while Target's implementing "express self-checkout" with item limits. Who would've thought petty crime would lead to job creation?
3/22/202429 minutes, 50 seconds
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Creating a Talent Collective with Natalie Stones

Join us on "The Chad and Cheese Podcast" for a lively and enlightening conversation with Natalie Stones, the founder of Talent Collective. In this episode, titled "Unleashing Talent: The Natalie Stones Interview," we delve into Natalie's passion for talent acquisition, her journey from corporate recruiting to building a thriving community for women in recruiting, and her adventures in fractional recruiting. Natalie shares her insights on AI in recruiting, the challenges of unbiased hiring, and the current trends in talent acquisition. We also discuss the changing landscape of diversity, equity, and inclusion initiatives, the rise of fractional work and its impact on women, and the evolving dynamics of the workforce post-pandemic. Don't miss Natalie's candid thoughts on LinkedIn and the role of recruiting technology in shaping the future of talent acquisition. Tune in for an episode packed with humor, snark, and thought-provoking discussions that redefine the world of recruiting. 
3/20/202425 minutes, 55 seconds
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Shredded: Paradox, iCIMS, ZipRecruiter, Recruiter.com, Talentware, HRPanda & More

The Shred is a weekly roundup of who’s raised funds, who’s been acquired and who’s on the move in the world of recruitment. The Shred is brought to you today by Jobcase.
3/19/20247 minutes, 6 seconds
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Unholy Trinity: The Greatest Threats to Job Boards

The last time Chad & Cheese welcomed Jeff "The Job Board Doctor" Chasey-Dickens to the podcast, chaos ensued as Cheese's Four Horsemen of the job board apocalypse rode wild in a healthy debate on the future of job boards. This time, the doc brings his own flavor of death and destruction he sees for the job board industry, dubbed Unholy Trinity. Three isn't as much as four, but the despair is no less frightening. If you're a job board owner or employee, it's a must listen.
3/18/202434 minutes, 27 seconds
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Paradox Crowning, PageUp Selling and Jobiqo Evolving

This week on "Live from Transform," we're broadcasting straight from the heart of Las Vegas, bringing you the most sizzling updates from the business and work sector. Expect nothing less than the hottest of hot news! First up, we delve into Paradox's latest move – appointing a brand-new CEO. This change at the top has the industry buzzing, and we're here to analyze what this means for the company's future direction. Then, we're going TMZ-style, uncovering a high-profile industry veteran caught in an unexpected situation Down Under. Rumors are swirling about a potential acquisition in the works, and we've got the inside scoop that's heating up the business world. But that's not all! We're also talking about Veritone's latest strategic play, joining forces with one of the largest job board networks globally. This partnership could reshape the landscape of job seeking and recruitment, and we're breaking down all the implications. If these fiery topics don't get you all jacked up, you've got to ask yourself – why are you even listening? Tune in for an episode packed with insights, intrigue, and insider info from the world of work. It's all happening right here, live from Transform in Las Vegas!
3/15/202438 minutes, 37 seconds
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Voice of Innovation: Qualifi's Journey and the Future of Recruiting

The podcast episode features Darrian Mikell, co-founder and CEO of Qualifi, discussing the evolution of his company and its impact on the recruiting industry. Mikell shares insights on Qualifi's journey from a simple phone interview automation tool to an end-to-end screening solution, emphasizing the importance of capturing the voice of candidates beyond resumes. He also delves into the challenges of market education and the potential of using AI and automation in recruiting while maintaining a focus on diversity and inclusion. The conversation also touches on Mikell's personal journey, his experience working with family in business, and his competitive spirit, reflecting both in his athletic background and business ambitions.
3/13/202430 minutes, 2 seconds
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Attrition is Killing You with Dr. Jim

In this episode of the podcast, the boys dive deep into the world of talent strategy and employee satisfaction with Dr. Jim Kanichirayil, VP of growth at EngageRocket, researcher, writer, podcaster, and a seasoned professional in the tech industry. Dr. Jim sheds light on the dissatisfaction brewing among workers within traditional employment structures, pointing towards the rise of freelance work and the gig economy as potential alternatives. We explore the phenomenon known as the "Great Resignation" and its lasting impact on the workforce, uncovering underlying issues like stagnant wages, layoffs, and limited career growth opportunities. The financial toll of attrition on organizations is also brought to the forefront, highlighting the significant costs associated with replacing employees. As Chad and Joel question why talent acquisition professionals aren't taking more proactive measures to address retention and productivity concerns, Dr. Jim suggests that short-term fixes often take precedence over long-term talent management strategies. He stresses the crucial role of effective leadership and managerial support in retaining employees. Throughout the discussion, we delve into key aspects of employee retention and development, including brand integrity, onboarding processes, and the importance of clear communication. Dr. Jim draws parallels between corporate practices and military training, emphasizing the need for continuous learning and development. We also explore shifting attitudes towards stability and career paths among different generations, advocating for a more flexible and entrepreneurial approach to career management. Ultimately, the conversation underscores the importance of organizational adaptation to meet the evolving expectations and aspirations of employees, fostering long-term engagement and loyalty.
3/11/202437 minutes, 26 seconds
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ZipRecruiter is Lost

As usual, this week, Chad & Cheese dive into the latest news and developments in the HR and technology sectors, featuring updates on Deel, Klarna's AI integration, Google's data deal with Stack Overflow, and lots more. Drink it in: DEEL's Acquisition Spree: We start with Deel, the HR startup making waves with its recent acquisition of African-based PaySpace, following last week's purchase of Zavvy. This marks Deel's largest acquisition yet, as it aims to strengthen its presence in Africa and reach $500M in annual recurring revenue, with plans for an IPO in 2025/2026. ZipRecruiter and Appcast's Pricing Changes: While Deel celebrates its growth, others like ZipRecruiter are facing scrutiny for a nearly 74% price hike without clear additional value. Meanwhile, Appcast is transitioning its business model away from supporting customers below the $20K/mo. spend, raising questions about its strategy and impact on agencies. Klarna's Efficiency with AI: Klarna's partnership with OpenAI has resulted in significant efficiency improvements, with its chatbot managing two-thirds of customer service chats in 23 markets and 35 languages. The integration is expected to increase profits by $40 million in 2024, raising questions about the impact on recruiting. Google's Data Deal with Stack Overflow: Google's Gemini chatbot will now utilize Stack Overflow's Q&A for coding assistance, marking Stack Overflow's first customer for paid access to content used to train AI chatbots. This deal could have significant commercial implications for Stack Overflow. Indeed's Missteps: Finally, we touch on Indeed's recent controversies, including a disappointing Willy Wonka chocolate factory experience and a racist job ad that was posted on the platform. These incidents raise questions about Indeed's oversight and use of AI in job postings. It's enough to make you forget politics, global conflict and the increase in prices at Chipotle. You're welcome.
3/8/202454 minutes, 54 seconds
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Shredded: Deel, Lattice, Craigslist, wagely, Remofirst, Healthee, PeopleForce, RemotePass & More

The Shred is a weekly roundup of who’s raised funds, who’s been acquired and who’s on the move in the world of recruitment. The Shred is brought to you today by Jobcase.
3/7/202410 minutes, 55 seconds
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Recruiting with Grit and Wit with Michael Goldberg

Dive into the irreverent world of talent acquisition with Michael Goldberg, the Senior Director of TA and Sourcing at US Renal Care, on The Chad and Cheese Podcast. Recorded live from TA Week, this episode is not your typical HR talk. Michael, with over two decades in the recruiting game, shares his unfiltered take on balancing tech and human touch in the industry. Expect a mix of hard-hitting insights, candid anecdotes, and a good dose of humor as Michael talks about transforming decent recruiters into exceptional ones, all while navigating the AI-dominated future of hiring. From snarky remarks to deep dives into the soul of recruiting, this episode is a rollercoaster ride through the highs and lows of talent acquisition. Tune in for an episode that's as much about laughs as it is about learning.
3/6/202420 minutes, 49 seconds
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Firing Squad: SmartRank CEO Keith Hulen

In case you missed it, automation, ranking candidates, DEI and managing applicants are all pretty popular solutions in the HR tech stratosphere. But all things for a 80 percent of the non-enterprise market? Well, that's a tough task to say that least, but startup SmartRank thinks they've got the secret sauce, promising to stack-rank and filter job applicants without using a resume, and helping companies achieve their DE&I initiatives by removing unconscious bias from the screening process. That's not all, but you get the idea. Do they have a better mousetrap or just another pile of mouse droppings? Gotta listen to find out.
3/4/202435 minutes, 3 seconds
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Workday Sucker Punches Eightfold and Beamery

This is the kitchen sink of episodes for us. The stars have somehow aligned and we got news drop from all your favs this week: ZipRecruiter, LinkedIn, Indeed, Deel ... and of course, OnlyFans. We even mention the likes of CareerBuilder, Monster and HotJobs. Hell, we even through background check talk along with AI lawsuits on hiring practices with some of the most well-known companies in our space. Seriously, settle in for this one, grab a bourbon and enjoy. We're about to cause chaos and rock like Amadeus.
3/1/202450 minutes, 25 seconds
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Shredded: Workday, Deel, First Advantage, ZipRecruiter, HiredScore, Zavvy, HelloHive, Glean & More

The Shred is a weekly roundup of who’s raised funds, who’s been acquired and who’s on the move in the world of recruitment. The Shred is brought to you by Jobcase.
2/29/20249 minutes, 2 seconds
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HelloWork Heats Up & JobiJoba Eyes America

This week on The Chad & Cheese Podcast Does Europe, the boys dive into the world of recruitment aggregators and the challenges they face with the rise of AI in talent acquisition. They discuss how some aggregators are adapting with personalization and AI capabilities, while others struggle to evolve and invest, potentially leading to their demise. The podcast also covers the potential rise of pay-per-apply models driven by AI predictions. Plus, they share their thoughts on recent industry news, including the shutdown of Finnish HRtech startup Workfellow, the launch of Amsterdam-based Samen Slimmer AI's venture Qneiform, the legal ruling affecting anonymity of reviewers on sites like Kununu, HelloWork's impressive growth and the birth of JobiJoba (what?) and a whole lot more.
2/28/202450 minutes, 28 seconds
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LinkedIn Changes and Why Recruiters Hate Them

Live from TA Week in San Diego from the Qualifi booth, the boys chat with Brian Fink, a TA partner at McAfee, and discussed the recent changes to LinkedIn and the impact on sourcing and recruiting. The conversation also touched on the competition between LinkedIn and other platforms like Google, Bing, and X. Specifically, Fink details the recent changes to the way LinkedIn displays profiles, which can affect how recruiters find and engage with potential candidates. He also highlighted the importance of using different search engines like Google and Bing to find candidates and the potential benefits of each. The role of Microsoft in the competition between LinkedIn and other platforms was also discussed, with the potential impact on recruiters and job seekers being a key point of interest. The rise of alternative platforms like Polywork and the potential for new competitors to emerge in the recruiting space were also mentioned. Fink emphasized the importance of recruiters being adaptable and not relying solely on one platform like LinkedIn for sourcing candidates. He also stressed the need for recruiters to be creative and think outside the box when it comes to finding and engaging with candidates.
2/26/202420 minutes, 7 seconds
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LinkedIn Loves Your Data

It was another wild week in the world of work. The boys cover a wide range of topics. Here's a breakdown of some of the highlights: PageUp: U.S. tech investor Battery Ventures is looking to cash out of talent management platform PageUp, which it funded in 2018. Despite efforts to expand globally and through acquisitions, PageUp struggled to gain traction in the U.S. market. HireRight: Investment funds affiliated with General Atlantic and Stone Point Capital are acquiring background check solution HireRight for approximately $1.65 billion. The sale suggests a smart move to sell while the stock is high. Beamery: Beamery's CTO and co-founder Michael Patterson has exited the company, amid rumors of acquisition by Workday. However, Workday may wait to acquire Beamery at a lower price, as Beamery has faced layoffs and client loss. The Hatch: Australian startup The Hatch has raised approximately $4.6 million to create a job platform targeting Gen Z professionals, aiming to disrupt traditional job boards by using AI to match users with jobs based on their values and skills. In addition, Chad and Joel discuss various topics related to current events and news, including the National Labor Relations Board's disputes with Amazon, SpaceX, and Trader Joe's, LinkedIn's legal troubles, North Korean hackers using AI for phishing scams, and more. Join us for a lively discussion on labor rights, privacy, and corporate ethics!
2/23/202454 minutes, 31 seconds
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Shredded: LinkedIn, Fiverr, HireRight, Fama, SocialCrowd, Hatch, TrueBlue, Idenfit & More

The Shred is a weekly roundup of who’s raised funds, who’s been acquired and who’s on the move in the world of recruitment. The Shred is brought to you today by Jobcase.
2/22/20248 minutes, 37 seconds
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The Power of Employer Branding with Carrie Corcoran

Live from TA Week at the Qualifi booth, the boys sit down with Carrie Corcoran, a leading expert in employment branding and recruitment marketing. With her extensive experience in the industry and her passion for helping businesses create inclusive and diverse work environments, Carrie is a force to be reckoned with. In this episode, we dive deep into the world of employer branding and discuss its importance in attracting top talent. Carrie shares her insights on how companies can leverage technology to improve the candidate experience and create a positive employer brand. As the founder of Carrie Cares Employment Brand Consulting, Carrie has helped numerous businesses develop and implement effective strategies to improve their employer brand and recruitment efforts. She is also a strong advocate for the over 50 workforce, believing that they have a wealth of knowledge and experience to offer companies.
2/21/202417 minutes, 29 seconds
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Torin Ellis Truth Bombs on 'Wokeism' Backlash, Supreme Court Missteps & More

Torin Ellis, a self-described coach, consultant, and speaker specializing in diversity and inclusion joins the boys for a Black History Month check-on on the current state of diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI). Torin shares his perspective on the importance of universal design and organizational redesign in fostering inclusivity, addressing the backlash against "wokeism," the challenges in advancing DEI, and the need for a collective voice to combat setbacks, such as Supreme Court decision to terminate Affirmative Action. Torin emphasizes the significance of taking action and not just relying on discussions, urging organizations to address issues like pay inequality actively. The trio explores strategies to navigate the socio-political landscape and drive progress in DEI initiatives. Then we discuss a controversial statements made by Governor Ron DeSantis, equating slavery to a work training program, and emphasizing the importance of addressing racism and inequality beyond just conversations in black churches but spreading awareness in various communities. The conversation delves into the challenges of building relationships, advocating for honest discussions around diversity, equity, and inclusion. Torin shares insights into the increasing demand for diversity and inclusion education in companies, highlighting the need for CEOs to make a genuine commitment, allocate resources, and be held accountable for diversity initiatives. The discussion also touches on the performative nature of some diversity efforts and the importance of tangible outcomes. Torin reflects on the debate between Elon Musk and Mark Cuban, emphasizing the need for action in addition to public discourse. Finally, as it is Black History Month, Torin shares his personal connection to the month and encourages understanding and support from individuals, acknowledging the potential for positive change when addressing interference in achieving diversity goals.
2/19/202437 minutes, 41 seconds
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HiBob Buys a Pento, Earnings Disappoint & Biden Loves Chips

In this episode, we discuss the acquisition of Pento, a Copenhagen-born payroll automation platform, by HiBob, an Israeli-based HRIS. The terms of the deal remain undisclosed, but the acquisition aims to create an all-in-one solution, streamlining the entire payroll workflow. Founded in 2017, Pento had raised around $54 million. The acquisition is expected to save time for various teams by simplifying the traditionally cumbersome payroll process. We also delve into the latest earnings reports from various companies in the HR and recruiting industry. Recruit Holdings reported a decrease in revenue due to a contraction in hiring activities in the U.S. and Europe. DHI Group, the owners of Dice and Clearance Jobs, experienced a decline in revenue, primarily driven by a decrease in revenue from Dice. Randstad reported a drop in revenue, attributing it to global economic uncertainty. Monster revenue was also down. Despite a roaring U.S. economy, these companies are facing challenges, including upskilling, less job-hopping, and the need for internal networking. In other news, the Biden administration announced a $5 billion investment to support research and development in advanced computer chips. This initiative aims to reverse the decline in the U.S. semiconductor manufacturing industry and boost domestic production of advanced semiconductors. However, companies are struggling to adapt quickly enough to a convergence of tech, generational turnover, and the fast pace of change. About 44% of workers' skills are set to be disrupted in the next five years, and about 60% of workers will require training in the next three years. Jobster, the company behind the world's first predictive job advertising platform, is making a comeback. Jobster, first famous in the mid-2000s, is now back under new ownership. The return of Jobster could signal a new programmatic ad solution in the job market. Lastly, Neon Money Club, a fintech platform, has launched a new dating app called Score, which requires users to have a credit score of at least 675. Users who are denied access will be directed to resources to improve their financial literacy and credit scores. The app has received mixed reactions due to its exclusionary nature, with some viewing it as aspirational and others seeing it as perpetuating class divides. Neon Money Club has raised over $10 million in venture capital and is the first Black-owned tech business to launch a credit card with AMEX.
2/16/202450 minutes, 43 seconds
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Shredded: Indeed, HiBob, iCIMS, Dice, Monster, Glassdoor, Deazy, Geektastic, Qneiform & More

The Shred is a weekly roundup of who’s raised funds, who’s been acquired and who’s on the move in the world of recruitment. The Shred is brought to you today by Jobcase.
2/15/20247 minutes, 47 seconds
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Making Sense of Gen Z with Author Anthony Onesto

Who's ready for a new generation to enter the workforce? Well, like it or not, Gen Z is on their way in, and - stop me if you've heard this one before - they're different from all the preceding generations. How exactly? Well, no clue. That's why we invited Anthony Onesto, advisor, chief people officer, Gen Z & Future of Work Visionary and author of The New Employee Contract to the podcast. All kidding aside, a generation who's grown up in the shadow of 9/11, the Great Recession and a global pandemic, all while never knowing a world without internet and a smartphone are bound to introduce a wide variety of nuance to the world. And that, of course, includes recruitment and retention in new and sometimes scary ways. If you're hiring Gen Z, and hoping they stay awhile, you owe it to yourself to tune into this episode.
2/14/202440 minutes, 55 seconds
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Firing Squad: OnLoop CEO Projjal Ghatak

No one in the world of work likes form-filling, complex systems and bureaucracy. Yet, teams need to feel motivated, aligned, and accountable on the job, which usually means a lot of that stuff we hate. So what's an employer to do? OnLoop is here to turn every manager into a supercharged coach, and CEO and founder Projjal "JJ" Ghatak is on Firing Squad to try and prove his company has the juice to fulfill that promise and take it to established players like Lattice, 15five, Culture Amp and others. Does this former Uber executive's startup have what it takes to survive Chad & Cheese? Gotta listen to find out.
2/12/202433 minutes, 57 seconds
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Google Pulls Out, Lyft Puts Out & Apple Tells Porn "Get Out!"

It's a Chad-less week, as Serge Boudreau of The Recruitment Flex podcast fills in. We've got some follow-up from last week's show: Google unexpectedly shut down its job-advertising test due to performance issues, leaving speculation about staffing cuts and competing priorities. In other news, Appcast analysis shows an increase in clicks and applies per job posting in 2023, but the median cost per click fell. Moving on, Fora, an Executive Relationship Management platform, has launched with $3.8 million in pre-seed funding. Featuring industry veterans like Joe Essenfeld and Susan Vitale, Fora aims to revolutionize decision-making for executives with tailored AI technology. Lyft is making waves in the U.S. ride-hailing industry with weekly earnings guarantees for drivers, aiming to attract more to its platform amidst competition with Uber. Starship Technologies has secured $90 million to expand sidewalk delivery robot operations, while the NYPD ends its AI-driven security robot deployment in Times Square. And guess who's back? NYPD's K9 robot Digidog returns to service. Lastly, Apple's Vision Pro VR headset disappoints buyers as it blocks access to VR porn. Despite anticipation, users can't access explicit content, sparking frustration on social media and Reddit.
2/9/202455 minutes, 42 seconds
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Shredded: Nexxt, Lyft, Joveo, Benepass, Fora, Starship Technologies, Colossyan, Robert Half & More

The Shred is a weekly roundup of who’s raised funds, who’s been acquired and who’s on the move in the world of recruitment. The Shred is brought to you today by Jobcase.
2/8/20248 minutes, 41 seconds
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Personio's Shake-Up, HireAra vs. Poetry & Amazon's French Fiasco

What's on tap on this episode of The Chad & Cheese Podcast Does Europe? Munich-based company Personio has laid off 101 employees, constituting 5% of its workforce, to strengthen its market position and advance its product roadmap. The layoffs primarily affected the technology and product departments. The move follows Personio's valuation at $8.5 billion, and the boys discuss the trend of venture capital and private equity focusing on headcount growth, emphasizing the importance of revenue. They predict more layoffs from other unicorns that have received substantial funding. The discussion also touches on the IPO plans for Personio and the challenges faced by companies expanding to the US, citing the example of VONQ. The podcast later features a "Who'd You Rather" segment comparing two companies, HireAra and Poetry HR, and their recent funding rounds. The hosts share their preferences, highlighting the significance of the founders in their decision-making. The episode concludes with a discussion on Amazon's French arm being fined over 27 million pounds for implementing an intrusive surveillance system to monitor staff performance. The hosts express varying opinions on the impact of the fine and the ongoing global conversation about workplace monitoring and employee privacy. Looking to attend House of HR's E-recruitment Congress in March? Use CODE CP51000 and get 50% OFF when you register at https://www.erecruitment-congress.com/
2/7/202434 minutes, 21 seconds
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The State of Nurse Hiring w/ Dr. Beth Brooks

In case you missed it, the nursing profession is going through a pretty challenging time. Whether it's COVID burnout, a severe lack of skilled workers or the Baby Boomers putting immense pressure on the health care system - just to mention a few - times are tough. It's certainly an issue Chad & Cheese aren't qualified to solve, let alone fully understand. That's why Dr. Beth A. Brooks, president of The Brooks Group, joined the boys to discuss a wide variety of topics, such as the current state of nursing, how the gig economy is impacting the profession, the power of pay transparency and if / when the robots will finally be the ones giving colonoscopies. It's a must listen for nurse recruiting professionals, healthcare networks around the country and, frankly, nurses themselves.
2/5/202430 minutes, 1 second
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Google Kills Job Ads

The boys are live from TA Week in the Qualifi booth dropping more commentary from the world of work. First up, the boys cover recent updates on Google for Jobs killing off their pay-per-click (PPC) pilot with employers and agencies. Then, HireVue has a new CEO - Jeremy Friedman, bringing his tech growth expertise to the company. HireVue specializes in candidate evaluation through video interviews, boasting over 1,000 customers. In CEO updates, rumors suggest Arno Schafer is out at Vonq, the job advertising platform. Now, let's dive into tech news - ADP has launched ADP Assist, a cross-platform solution powered by generative AI, revolutionizing HR productivity. Moving on, Twitter Jobs introduces featured job ads, giving verified organizations benefits like priority posts and premium support. Now, from Japan, Indeed Plus is automating job matching by distributing postings on various job boards within Recruit Holdings. Lastly, UPS is cutting 12,000 jobs, saving approximately $1 billion after a 31.8% drop in quarterly profit. UPS CEO Carol Tomé announces the end of the hybrid work schedule, requiring employees to return to the office five days a week. Plus, over 10,000 autoworkers from non-union companies have signed union cards with the UAW.
2/2/202441 minutes, 34 seconds
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Shredded: LinkedIn, Personio, Hirevue, Compa, OfferZen, Acadian Ventures, HireAra, Sema4.ai & More

The Shred is a weekly roundup of who’s raised funds, who’s been acquired and who’s on the move in the world of recruitment. The Shred is brought to you today by Jobcase.
2/1/20249 minutes, 32 seconds
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Talent Acquisition Excellence w/ Kevin Wheeler

The future of recruiting is a popular topic these days. With AI and automation tools that are on a whole other level to tech of the past, many wonder how the future will play out for the profession that has for so long been a staple of corporate strategy. Fortunately, we have wise ol' veterans who know the past, but can also see around corners better than most. Age and vision are in short supply. That's why we had Kevin Wheeler, author, speaker and founder of Global Learning Resources, to the podcast. Kevin has a new book coming out in February entitled, “Talent Acquisition Excellence: Using Digital Capabilities and Analytics to Improve Recruitment,” that will prove helpful to those hoping the navigate the future like an ancient oracle. We're talkin' predictions for 2024, the pandemic impact, labor uprisings, how the kids are alright, and much more. Listen, subscribe, like and share.
1/31/202434 minutes, 21 seconds
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Job Board Brawl: Cheese vs. The Doctor

We say a lot of things on the podcast that people disagree with. Most people stop short of writing a blog post about how wrong they think one, or both, of us are. However, Jeff Dickey-Chasins, affectionately known as Job Board Doctor, decided to put the virtual pen-to-paper and express how wrong Joel was in his analysis of how job boards are facing a Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse in the form of Google / LinkedIn, AI, automation and the gig economy. Just when you think the debate will get too nasty to take, Chad swoops in as peacemaker ... or is it instigator? A must listen for every job board employee and customer alike. The Doctor is IN.
1/29/202441 minutes, 28 seconds
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LinkedIn's Message to Recruiters

Hold onto your resumes, wage slaves, because The Weekly Show's about to launch. This week's itinerary? Corporate drama as spicy as sriracha lattes: LinkedIn's Labyrinth: Remember stalking profiles like paparazzi? Now it's paywalled, like a Kardashian's closet. Moneybags Mania: Buckle up for a cash explosion! Huler's McDucking it, Ceridian's playing Monopoly with learning platforms, and DailyPay's got a billion-dollar piggy bank. Your salary? A rounding error. Job Board Jeopardy: Hold onto your FlexJobs! Bold.com snatched it like a free croissant at a networking event. Meanwhile, Sports Illustrated might be taking a dirt nap thanks to The Arena Group's fumble. Are robots writing your news now? Google's Global Games: Across the globe, Google's playing musical chairs with its Korean employees. But guess what? They're not having it. So there you have it, work world circus in a nutshell. Laugh, cry, maybe fart a little – that's what we're here for. Tune in next week for more corporate clowning and your weekly dose of The Weekly Show. Because in this game, we're all just juggling deadlines and dodging banana peels. Keep calm and carry on… with your trusty air freshener. P.S. Spread the word, wage slaves! We're all in this crazy ride together.
1/26/202455 minutes, 9 seconds
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Shredded: Indeed, LinkedIn, DailyPay, Lensa, Bold, Huler, Flexjobs, Recruitics & More

The Shred is a weekly roundup of who’s raised funds, who’s been acquired and who’s on the move in the world of recruitment. The Shred is brought to you today by Jobcase.
1/25/20248 minutes, 3 seconds
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Peak Stepstone? Google Jobs Lands & Lieven Predictions

With an upcoming annual conference, Lieven's been really busy, but he found some time for a chat with all the news coming out of Europe lately. First up, Stepstone is touting its best year ever, but at least one co-host if calling for peak Stepstone, meaning it's call downhill from here. Another reason for pessimism is the entry of Google for Jobs in Stepstone's backyard: Germany. It's going to be interesting, and maybe Appcast, Stepstone's shiny new toy, can save the day? We discuss. And how about a little Buy-or-Sell, reviewing startups Demando, JobCannon, and Bubty (no, it's not a new techno band out of Finland). Then we roll a grenade down the hall and give you Lieven's predictions for 2024 (spoiler alert: Goodbye SEO).
1/24/202443 minutes, 2 seconds
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Reunion Squad: Real Links' Sam Davies

We had employee referral software solution Real Links, and their CEO and co-founder Sam Davies, on Firing Squad four years ago. Chad gave them a rousing applause, while Cheese was a bit more tempered, giving them a gold clap. Needless to say, a lot has happened in the world since January 2020, so we thought a reunion would be apropos. When we last talked to Davies, they had just raised a little over a million bucks, employed nine people and were considering changing their domain from dot-io to a dot-com. So what's new? Ya' gotta listen to find out. Spoiler alert: LinkedIn has been as integral to their business as they thought it'd be. Visit www.reallinks.io for more.
1/22/202432 minutes, 57 seconds
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Indeed's Smokescreen & LinkedIn's Jet Engine

News has been slow since the holidays, but things are getting back to normal. Most notably, Indeed and LinkedIn are still doing stupid stuff, and we're happy to oblige with some razor-sharp commentary. They're the gift that keeps on giving. Additionally, DJ Sol at Goldman Sachs has finally figured out and fixed racism ... hallelujah! OK, not really, but you decide. Plus, it's a Who'd Ya' Rather, pitting PerformYard against Mercor (call it the 2 a.m. edition, because neither choice is all that appealing). How can it get even better, you ask? Can we interest you in Pornhub's annual report on global porn consumption? Spoiler alert: It's a lot to swallow. Talking about the data! There are some real sickos out there. Wait, did I mention our bulging Spotify metrics? Like, Share, Subscribe and Review!
1/19/202448 minutes, 38 seconds
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Shredded: Eightfold, LinkedIn, Remuner, PerformYard, Ask-AI, weavix, Aya Health & More

The Shred is a weekly roundup of who’s raised funds, who’s been acquired and who’s on the move in the world of recruitment. The Shred is brought to you today by Jobcase.
1/18/20248 minutes, 24 seconds
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The Algorithm: How AI Decides Who Gets Hired

Artificial intelligence and the world of work are strange bedfellows, especially when it comes to recruiting. It's OK if you're a bit confused, but trust us, you're not alone. We're pretty lost too, particularly when you start imagining where things could go as AI develops at lightning speeds. That's why we invited Hilke Schellmann, NYU Professor, Emmy Award-Winning Technology Journalist, and author of How AI Decides Who Gets Hired, Monitored, Promoted, and Fired and Why We Need to Fight Back Now to the podcast. Together, we cover a broad range of topics from her take on HR Tech, to bias on steroids to rampant sexism to vocal biomarkers (say what?). It's a must-listen for navigating the ever-evolving minefield that is AI in recruiting.
1/17/202434 minutes, 56 seconds
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Firing Squad: Draftboard's Zach Roseman

Do the names H3, Zubka, YorZ, Jobster, Refer.com and KarmaOnef mean anything to you? How about Indeed Crowd? Still no? Well, they're all that created a referral marketplace and eventually called it quits. History does not look fondly on empowering regular people to promote jobs to their networks for money. Draftboard, however, thinks they've cracked the code. CEO and founder Zach Roseman joins the boys on a lively episode of Firing Squad. To say Zach had a mountain to climb is an understatement, but he just may sway the world into his way of thinking. We are all recruiters? Well, maybe ... maybe not. Gotta listen to see if Draftboard survives the Firing Squad.
1/15/202442 minutes, 11 seconds
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Dry January? Hold My Big Mac & Scooter

Like a good fight? Well, you're in luck. This episode is for you. This week, the boys are covering fights between OpenAI and The New York Times, Elon Musk and Mark Cuban, and Miller Lite and Bud Light. Good thing Chad is back from Europe and in a fighting mood. We take on challenges to DEI and the rise of minimum wages in New York and California, while beer mints are hoping to be a thing. (It's not.) What's more snarky TikTok'ers, Big Macs, and Bird scooters ... Oh, my. Grab a cold one and enjoy. Again, what the hell is Dry January?
1/12/202456 minutes, 45 seconds
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Shredded: Bullhorn, Lever, JitJatJo, Burro, JobCannon, Sinecure.ai & More

The Shred is a weekly roundup of who’s raised funds, who’s been acquired and who’s on the move in the world of recruitment. The Shred is brought to you today by Jobcase.
1/11/20247 minutes, 33 seconds
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Diving Into HR Tech M&A w/ Jim Holzer

What's going to happen to all those remote-work unicorns who raised hundreds of millions during the pandemic, now that RTO is back and WFH is out? What's the current state of M&A in HR Tech in 2023, heading into 2024? And when will the IPO dam finally break and throw companies like iCIMS, Greenhouse, Personio and others to the public markets? All great questions, but ones Chad & Cheese aren't exactly proficient in answering. That's why we asked Jim Holzer, managing partner at Drake Star Partners, on the pod. Jim manages M&A and capital raising in the HR tech vertical for Drake Star. A must listen for anyone raising, selling or just surviving this turbulent market. Don't go into 2024 without checking this one out.
1/10/202428 minutes, 18 seconds
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Startup Pitches, HR Tech, and Career Progression: Taylor Weiss from PeakSpan Capital

Recorded live at the HR Tech Conference from the Fuel50 booth in Las Vegas, Chad & Cheese sit down with Taylor Weiss, a Technology Investor at PeakSpan Capital. Taylor discusses her role, preferences for startups, emphasizing the importance of honest, succinct pitches. The conversation explores tech founders' ages, backing the right founder, excitement for innovative solutions in HR Tech, and leveraging AI for career advancement. Taylor stresses honesty's significance in career progression, proposing early education on self-awareness. She advises startups to align with investors' ethos and highlights PeakSpan's focus on alignment with entrepreneurs. To learn more about Fuel50, visit https://fuel50.com.
1/8/202417 minutes, 41 seconds
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Predictions 2024

Another year, another podcast full of predictions that (mostly) won't come true. Yup, it's finally 2024 and the boys have sobered up enough to give their best guesses for what will happen over the next 12 mos. And if you already long for 2023, never fear, we also review last year's hits and (mostly, again) misses. Plus, we reflect on 2023's podcast takeaways, our fantasy football champion is crowned, and travel heats up again. And what the hell is Dry January?
1/5/202449 minutes, 1 second
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Shredded: Sterling Check, Kelly Services, Welcome to the Jungle, Bubty, Otta, HRtechjob & More

The Shred is a weekly roundup of who’s raised funds, who’s been acquired and who’s on the move in the world of recruitment. The Shred is brought to you today by Jobcase.
1/4/20246 minutes, 43 seconds
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From AI to Mental Health: EEOC's Keith Sonderling's Insights

Recorded live at the HR Tech Conference from the Fuel50 booth in Las Vegas, Chad & Cheese are joined by Keith Sonderling, EEOC Commissioner. We're talking the impact of AI and technology on HR and employment, including issues like remote work accommodations, discrimination claims, and the increasing use of generative AI. Sonderling breaks down the importance of considering the legal and ethical implications of AI in the workplace and urges HR pros to engage in the interactive process when addressing accommodation requests. He also discusses the rise in retaliation claims and shares details about the EEOC's first AI-specific case involving a hiring website. To learn more about the EEOC, visit www.eeoc.gov. Commissioner Sonderling can be found on LinkedIn at www.linkedin.com/in/keith-sonderling. To learn more about Fuel50, visit https://fuel50.com.
1/3/202423 minutes, 6 seconds
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Naughty or Nice 2023

Hallelujah! Holy sh!t! Where’s the Tylenol? This week, we’re checking it once, we’re checking it twice, and we’re going to talk about who’s been naughty, and who’s been nice in 2023. It's a combination of eight companies and individuals, so pour yourself an egg nog and enjoy. Just don't shoot your eye out!
12/29/202336 minutes, 6 seconds
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Exploring Pay Equity with Legal Expert Heather Bussing

Recorded live at the HR Tech Conference from the Fuel50 booth in Las Vegas, Chad & Cheese are joined by Heather Bussing, a legal expert in employment law. They discuss the topic of pay equity and how it impacts diversity and inclusion in the workplace. They explore how technology can help address pay equity issues and the importance of pay transparency. They also touch on the rise of unions and the impact of COVID-19 on changing perspectives in the workforce. Heather shares her insights on how employers can navigate these challenges and ensure fair compensation for their employees. To learn more about Fuel50, visit https://fuel50.com.
12/27/202318 minutes, 9 seconds
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Cybertruck Frights and Threads Delight

As you probably guessed, the week before Christmas, recruiting news is a bit light. However, that won't stop the Chad & Cheese commentary train, even if things are a little less recruit-y. Elon's Cybertruck is hitting some snags in Europe, and it's not just the narrow roads in Cork that might keep it out of bounds in the Old Country. Threads has also hit Europe, successfully maneuvering the EU regulation machine. Does that spell more trouble for Elon's X? We discuss. Sticking with Europe (why not?), it's a Who'd Ya' Rather: Ménage à Trois edition, featuring Urban Sports Club, Harriet and Mistral. What's more? How about the future of self-checkout and giving eternal life to your favorite porn stars, thanks to AI. Indeed, the happiest time of the year starts with this warm and fuzzy episode of Chad & Cheese. Hallelujah! Holy sh!t! Where's the Tylenol?
12/22/202350 minutes, 6 seconds
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Shredded: iCIMS, The Mom Project, Salesforce, LinkedIn, Jobjack, Salt Labs & More

The Shred is a weekly roundup of who’s raised funds, who’s been acquired and who’s on the move in the world of recruitment. The Shred is brought to you today by Jobcase.
12/21/20236 minutes, 16 seconds
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Firing Squad: Jason Radisson of Movo

Frontline workers are in high demand. They're essential to keeping the lights on for companies of all sizes. To say there's a lot of money spend on hiring and retaining those employees is an understatement, but the ability to support those initiatives will also managing that workforce is equally important. That's why Movo was built and why Jason Radisson, founder and CEO of the company came on Firing Squad. That's the good news. The bad news is there are lots of competitors with trusted brands and even deeper pockets. So is Movo a knife in a gunfight, or do they bring a special sauce the others don't. Radisson and his background at Uber may just be cooking up something unique, but we'll let the intense line of questioning answer that question. Does he survive The Squad? Gotta listen to find out.
12/20/202336 minutes, 29 seconds
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Unlocking HR Tech Insights with IDC Analyst Zachary Chertok

Recorded live at the HR Tech Conference from the Fuel50 booth in Las Vegas, Chad & Cheese connect with Zachary Chertok, Market and Industry Analyst at IDC to dive into the realm of HR tech and employee experience. Chertok has a strong professional background in the Human Capital Management (HCM) space, and addresses shifts in workforce management due to the pandemic, the ever-evolving tech stack, data centralization, and the overall challenges faced by HR professionals. Chertok also highlighted the importance of aligning HR strategies with business goals and the complexities of HR navigating between advocating for employees and organizational constraints. Notably, he also shared some interesting observations from HR Tech, such as a trend towards emphasizing the data use case over functionality, and noted advancements in areas like skills taxonomy, benefits tools, and more nuanced vendor differentiation. To learn more about Fuel50, visit https://fuel50.com.
12/18/202322 minutes, 50 seconds
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Google's Gemini, Indeed's Mess and LinkedIn's Crackdown

Chad is back this week following a week of British hospitality and has some things to add to last week's discussion around Indeed and Appcast. Then it's on to Google's Gemini, they're answer to taking AI up a notch, including multimodal intelligence. That's text, images, audio, video and even code, if you didn't know. What else? Well, LinkedIn's campaign to kill fake accounts and the companies that create them is in high gear, as legal cases are closing, and fines are coming. Plus, Facebook fraudster Barbara Furlow-Smiles, a former global diversity executive at Facebook, comes into view and might explain why the social network's diversity strategy has seemed so out of whack lately. And because we love you, dear listener, so much, we drop some breaking news out of iCIMS to close the show, along with some commentary (of course). Enjoy, and be sure to check us out on YouTube, where we're publishing some really cool content, including the weekly podcast.
12/15/202355 minutes, 7 seconds
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Shredded: HireVue, LinkedIn, Lattice, Checkr, Upwork, ContactMonkey, Fiverr & More

The Shred is a weekly roundup of who’s raised funds, who’s been acquired and who’s on the move in the world of recruitment. The Shred is brought to you today by Jobcase.
12/14/20237 minutes, 36 seconds
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HR's Data Frontier: Jack Berkowitz of ADP Discusses Evolution & AI Advancements

Recorded live at the HR Tech Conference from the Fuel50 booth in Las Vegas, Chad & Cheese interview Jack Berkowitz, the Chief Data Officer at ADP. They discuss various topics such as ADP's data-driven approach, AI strategy, skills graph, personalized employee experiences, and the intersection of HR and marketing. Berkowitz highlights the importance of treating employees as consumers, leveraging data for talent acquisition and management, and the role of ADP Ventures in engaging startups. He emphasizes ADP's focus on data flow and its impact on delivering cohesive experiences across various HR functions. The conversation delves into ADP's commitment to respecting data rights, collaborating with government entities, and their excitement about AI advancements in their Gen.AI project. Berkowitz also mentions companies like Vizier and Workday, discussing their impact and contributions to the HR tech ecosystem. Overall, the interview emphasizes ADP's data-centric approach and its evolution towards personalized, impactful HR solutions. To learn more about Fuel50, visit https://fuel50.com.
12/11/202321 minutes, 45 seconds
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Indeed Dumps Pay-Per-Applicant, "YOU Days"

When the Chad's away, the Cheese will play. With Sowash taking a PTO day, Cheese welcomes guest co-host Jim Stroud, editor at SourceCon to fill-in. We're talkin' the state of sourcing, Indeed's double moonwalk from pricing and employees, a drop in the jobs report, Remote launching an Upwork competitor (or is it Fiverr?). Plus, life imitates art at Chipotle, Minnesota strippers and plenty of rizz. Enjoy, ya' filthy animals.
12/8/20231 hour, 4 minutes, 5 seconds
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Shredded: Randstad, Remote, Workleap, Pingboard, Corazon, Harriet, Laborsmart & More

The Shred is a weekly roundup of who’s raised funds, who’s been acquired and who’s on the move in the world of recruitment. The Shred is brought to you today by Jobcase.
12/7/20237 minutes, 1 second
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VC Insights: HR Tech Growth with Philip Dur of PeakSpan Capital

Recorded live at the HR Tech Conference from the Fuel50 booth in Las Vegas, Chad & Cheese sit down for a candid conversation with Philip Dur, co-founder of Peakspan Capital. They discuss partnering with growth-stage companies post-product market fit, offering domain expertise and capital. Dur also highlights focus, talent, and scalability challenges for startups on our space, and they also delve into investment strategies, avoiding trendy markets, focusing on high-impact solutions, and foreseeing societal responsibility in HR tech. To learn more about Fuel50, visit https://fuel50.com.
12/6/202320 minutes, 13 seconds
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Exploring HR's Narrative Power with Johnson & Johnson's Doug Shagham

Recorded live at the HR Tech Conference from the Fuel50 booth in Las Vegas, Chad & Cheese interview Doug Shagham, Head of People Data and Insights at Johnson & Johnson. Shagam shares his unconventional journey from aspiring drummer to data analytics, emphasizing the power of people analytics and storytelling in HR. He discusses integrating multiple HR platforms, democratizing data, and shaping J&J's talent acquisition. Highlighting their J&J Learn program, he explores skills inference, employee growth, and the significance of sharing the company's vision with its workforce. Shagham's insights reflect the intersection of data, technology, and employee experience in HR. To learn more about Fuel50, visit https://fuel50.com.
12/4/202319 minutes, 36 seconds
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Twitter's Job Board Blip & Amazon's Chat

Can't get no satisfaction with those other podcasts? Well, you've come to the right place. This week was one helluva news cycle, including an 'F bomb' from our favorite billionaire nut job, Elon Musk, to go along with a job board launch out of Twitter, er, X. Spoiler alert: Indeed's probably not losing a lot of sleep over it, but if employers don't want jobs on a platform with antisemitic content, they may want to pay attention. (Talkin' to you, too, Appcast.) Plus, Amazon is officially in the ChatGPT competition game, with something HR should be paying attention to, LinkedIn has finally figured out it can make money in healthcare, unions keep winning, and Machine Gun Kelly is hoping to poach NFL star Travis Kelce back to his hometown Cleveland. Who says you can't always get what you want? Not our listeners. We even throw in some AARP-inspired "Help, I've fallen and I can't get up" jokes to talk about The Rolling Stones recent ticket pre-sale on AARP's website. Don't want to spoil it for you, but the computer screen was 'painted black' for a lot of would-be ticket buyers.
12/1/202349 minutes, 54 seconds
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Shredded: Amazon, LinkedIn, Artisan, Every, Inclusively, Tanda & More

The Shred is a weekly roundup of who’s raised funds, who’s been acquired and who’s on the move in the world of recruitment. The Shred is brought to you today by Jobcase.
11/30/20237 minutes, 32 seconds
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EUROPE: Move Over Paradox, Here Comes Ava, Manuel

The Dutch Trump is something we never thought would be uttered on our podcast, yet here we are. This episode of The Chad & Cheese Podcast (Does Europe) starts with a lesson in European politics and the rise of mini-Trumps around the in places like Italy, France and, yes, Holland. That's followed by a breakdown of recent tech news, including London-born startup Artisan and it's AI, named Ava, raising funds, Ukraine's Jooble quietly winning and Spain's Manuel making moves on Paradox's Olivia (Is she interested? We discuss.) Then it's off to startup land where companies are refocused on retention and pay equity in light of higher interest rates and a dead IPO market. From there, it's off to Deutschland where a recession has led Europe's largest economy to rethink immigration ... assuming you're the "right" kind of immigrant, of course. Chad opines that "there's too many stupid humans" in the world. He's not talking about our listeners, of course. Enjoy this wunderbar episode.
11/29/202345 minutes, 58 seconds
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Europe's Ever-Evolving HR Tech w/ EY's Hendrick Schmahl

How could the boys head to Europe for UNLEASH World and not get a hot take on the current state of the continent when it comes to the world of work? European businesses like Personio, HiBob, Job&Talent and others are shaking things up, and it goes both ways with the likes of Appcast reshaping European stalwarts like Stepstone. That's why we invited Hendrik Schmahl, Partner at EY in Berlin to the Textkernel booth for a chat. Schmahl is busy leading the consulting practice advancing HR transformation and digitization, but found some time for Chad & Cheese. If you're looking for a different take on how things are evolving in Europe, and particularly in Germany, then this interview is a must.
11/27/202318 minutes, 53 seconds
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Countdown: Jive Turkeys of the Year

Thanksgiving week means it's time for our annual Jive Turkeys edition of the podcast. This year, the boys take on Twitter's failed hiring platform after Elon Musk's acquisition, Kid Rock's inconsistent behavior and impact on Bud Light, Grindr and Xing's questionable shifts into job matching, Joonko's collapse due to unethical practices, and OpenAI's leadership upheaval with Sam Altman and Greg Brockman quitting abruptly. Next up: iCIMS' CEO's sudden resignation of Brian Provost, and Silk Road's rebranding to Rival-HR ... this after multiple leadership changes. It's a fun-filled episode of industry missteps, unethical behavior and sudden, drastic changes within these companies or individuals ... ultimately labeling them as our Jive Turkeys for 2023. Gobble! Gobble!
11/24/202343 minutes, 4 seconds
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You Cannot Hide from AI w/ Larry McAlister

Recorded live at the HR Tech Conference from the Fuel50 booth in Las Vegas, this episode features Larry McAlister, a three-time CHRO and author. We discuss his book "The Power to Transform," which serves as a field guide for building a human-centered, tech-enabled work culture. The episode also covers various topics, including the importance of HR technology, the need for HR professionals to embrace technology, and the impact of generative AI on the industry. Larry emphasizes the importance of self-care for job seekers and offers advice on how to make oneself more marketable in the evolving job market. The podcast also touches on the potential ethical issues and risks associated with AI in recruiting. Larry can be found on LinkedIn or at his website, LarryMcAlisterBook.com, and his book is available on Amazon. To learn more about Fuel50, visit https://fuel50.com.
11/22/202317 minutes, 38 seconds
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Private Equity is Hungry - The State of M&A

The world is a volatile place. Inflation, conflict, elections and AI, to name a few, have meant a lot of things in business are taking a pause. Mergers and acquisitions are no exception. However, things are still moving, and signs of new life are everywhere. That's why we invited Georgios Markikus, managing partner at Venero Capital Advisors to the Textkernel booth in Paris at UNLEASH World to chat about the state of M&A. From the recent Clevy acquisition by Fountain to the current thawing of markets to how hungry private equity is at the moment to make things happen. Turns out, there's a lot of dry powder out there, which not only makes this interview interesting, but necessary for anyone who makes their living in workforce businesses.
11/20/202316 minutes, 6 seconds
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OpenAI Poaches, Beamery Sinking and Deel, um, Dealing

King Kong vs. Godzilla. Rocky vs. Apollo Creed. Democrat vs. Republican. People love a good showdown, and the world of work is no different. This week's show highlights the trending conflicts between Google against OpenAI, Deel against Rippling, RTO against WFH, Labor against Capital ... and most importantly, Elon against Everybody. Beyond that, the boys are talkin' layoffs at Beamery, Josh Bersin's Galileo™, and Twitter ... er, X's new job search design. With Thanksgiving in America right around the corner, consider this week's show a solid appetizer for what's sure to be an overrated meal of dry turkey, runny potatoes, and undercooked stuffing.
11/17/202350 minutes, 35 seconds
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Shredded: Harri, Indeed, EarnBetter, Engagedly, theEMPLOYEEapp, Jooble & More

The Shred is a weekly roundup of who’s raised funds, who’s been acquired and who’s on the move in the world of recruitment. The Shred is brought to you today by Jobcase.
11/16/20237 minutes, 22 seconds
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EUROPE: Like a Rolling Stepstone, All Xings Must Pass

If rubbernecking pertained to podcasts, this one might be at the top of the list. It's just one car crash after another, and you'll find it hard to look away as you figuratively drive by. Whether it's Stepstone stepping in it, again, or Xing thinking the job board business is a good pivot from its failed attempt at taking on LinkedIn, we have you covered. Appetite for destruction not quenched? Then how about an all-Sell round of Buy-or-Sell, that'll have you in stitches. In fact, it got so bad, it turned into a commercial for one of House of HR's businesses. Gotta love Lieven for always talking us off the ledge. Call your therapist, or grab a beer, at least, and tune in now.
11/15/202339 minutes, 10 seconds
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Firing Squad: Koios CEO Tom Sherwood

Can we interest you in voice-driven AI algorithms to offer personality insights for the candidates you're looking to hire? Your current crop of employees? A start-up called Koios is betting that you will. OK, so skills-based insights are all the rage right now, thanks to organizations like Plum, HiringBranch and others, but personality insights? The boys are skeptical, but welcome Tom Sherwood, co-founder and CEO at Koios on Firing Squad to find out what all this witchcraft is about. Does he leave unscathed? Abracadabra, Holmes! You gotta listen to find out.
11/13/202336 minutes, 25 seconds
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Google Reveals, Indeed Falls, & Labor Wins

It's earnings season, which means our show's usual suspects are opening up the books and showing off their numbers. Unfortunately, unless your name is Upwork, Uber and DoorDash - darlings of the gig economy - the numbers aren't all that exciting. Spoiler alert: Indeed, Glassdoor, ZipRecruiter and Dice disappointed pretty much every shareholder. While job sites are losing, however, labor continue to win in light of the recent UAW smackdown of Detroit's Big Three. In addition to carmakers, airlines are getting in on the act, and don't be surprised if more segments start blowing up, thanks to so much China hating going on at the moment in the West. What's more? Google for Jobs keeps evolving, RTO policies keep sucking, especially for mental health disabilities and challenges and Russia continues to ruin everything. This is why we can't have nice things, but at least we still have podcasts like this one to spread joy around the world.
11/10/202349 minutes, 58 seconds
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Shredded: Indeed, Upwork, Harver, Fuel50, Harri, The Muse, Spotted Zebra, Adway & More

The Shred is a weekly roundup of who’s raised funds, who’s been acquired and who’s on the move in the world of recruitment. The Shred is brought to you today by Jobcase.
11/9/20238 minutes, 6 seconds
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Talkin' LLM, AI, Parsing, and Tech with Gerard Mulder

Ya' down with LLM? How artificial intelligence is leveraging Large Language Models to power solutions like ChatGPT is redefining how recruiting and hiring is done. Problems is, it's early innings, which means the masses don't quite understand the ramifications and how to harness the new tech in order to take their staffing strategies to a new level. That's why we invited Textkernel CEO Gerard Mulder on the podcast to make sense of it all. Textkernel’s LLM Parser, powered by GPT-3.5, represents a groundbreaking fusion of Textkernel’s proprietary industry knowledge with ChatGPT, making this dynamic combination the next generation in parsing technology, offering recruiters and HR professionals unparalleled levels of accuracy, efficiency, and insights into candidate data. Yeah, it's kind of a big deal, and the boys grill Mulder on the benefits, competitive landscape and potential threats. We also cover Textkernel's recent acquisition of Joboti, and dive into what potential moves the company might be eyeing in the future. Recorded live from the Textkernel booth in Paris at Unleash, you won't want to miss this conversation with long time Chad & Cheese sponsor.
11/6/202322 minutes, 53 seconds
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Big Week for LinkedIn, Labor, and Liberals

Things tend to get a little kooky around Halloween, which the world celebrated this week, and the news around work was a bit discombobulated too. Our eighty-something president laid down an executive order regarding AI regulation, labor unions struck a big blow to The Big Three, and LinkedIn cuddled up to frenemies like Beamery, Eightfold, and Radancy. Plus, OnlyFans-inspired dismissals strike the same school twice, and an epic duel of Who'd Ya' Rather pitting Yourco's David against Traba's Goliath. The boys even throw in some KFC rejection letter entertainment, brought to you by social media, and the demise of WeWork. Thanks, internet!
11/3/202350 minutes, 3 seconds
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Shredded: Stepstone, Personio, Freelance.com, DICE, Yourco, Traba, ERE Media, Shakers & More

The Shred is a weekly roundup of who’s raised funds, who’s been acquired and who’s on the move in the world of recruitment. The Shred is brought to you today by Jobcase.
11/2/20238 minutes, 15 seconds
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Employee Retention is a Thing w/ Madeline Laurano

Employee retention. Ever heard of it? It’s kind of a big deal. See, employers would rather hold on to the existing crop of workers than have to go back to the well year after year. Ever heard of the gaming industry? Yeah, it’s kind of a big deal too, and hold onto those employees are particularly tricky. Good thing we ran into Madeline Laurano, the founder and chief analyst of Aptitude Research, while we were in Paris at Unleash, because she actually gave a presentation on the topic and decided to hangout with your boys in the Textkernel booth for some knowledge droppin’. 
11/1/202318 minutes, 29 seconds
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Interview: ERIN CEO Mike Stafiej

Did you happen to catch ERIN at the SHRM show this summer? If you did, you’re probably wearing a Chad & Cheese T-shirt right now. You also probably learned about a start-up in the employee referral space who just raised millions for their business. In case you missed it, employers say referrals are their No. 1 source of hire. For these reasons alone, we had to invite Mike Stafiej, CEO at ERIN, on the show to break it all down for us. We also make fun of Cardboard Chad. Confused, gotta listen.
10/30/202337 minutes, 25 seconds
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Radancy Buys, Employment Hero Raises & Bullhorn Cuts

It's Halloween time again, and as usual, this episode is full of tricks and treats from the world of work. We're talkin' layoffs at Bullhorn and Nomad Health, Radancy acquiring Brazen, Employment Hero claiming unicorn status and more. What's more, you ask? How about Amazon introducing human-like robots into its warehouses and Cruise driverless cars getting pinched by the government regulators. The biggest trick of all probably goes to all the Return-to-Office mandates dropping on the heads of unsuspecting workers, like moms and the disabled. Of course, we end on a treat, talkin' about adult film star Riley Reid's new AI girlfriend app, that promises to be as naughty as you want her to be ... virtually, of course. Carve a pumpkin, grab a glass of witch's brew and enjoy this week's episode of HR's most dangerous podcast.
10/27/202348 minutes, 40 seconds
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Shredded: Bullhorn, Employ Inc., Employment Hero, Slinger, Micro1, Jobvite, JazzHR & More

The Shred is a weekly roundup of who’s raised funds, who’s been acquired and who’s on the move in the world of recruitment. The Shred is brought to you today by Jobcase.
10/26/20236 minutes, 28 seconds
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Failing Child Labor Laws with Reid Maki

The low standards around child labor laws in America are enough to make anyone think they're taking crazy pills. Shockingly, many states and local governments are going backward when it comes to protecting our most vulnerable, particularly in agriculture. That's why we invited Reid Maki, Child Labor Advocacy Director at the National Consumers League and Child Labor Coalition on the podcast. It's a sobering discussion on the state of working kids and immigration failures throughout the country and its heartland. It's also a discussion, however, about how change can happen for the betterment of everyone. We are failing our kids and it's high time we make a change. Knowing is the first step.
10/25/202331 minutes, 15 seconds
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Shredded: LinkedIn, DailyPay, Pack, The Martec, Yardstik, TransactionLink, Harmony, Connetic Ventures & More

The Shred is a weekly roundup of who’s raised funds, who’s been acquired and who’s on the move in the world of recruitment. The Shred is brought to you today by Jobcase.
10/23/20236 minutes, 57 seconds
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Vive la UNLEASH!

Week Two of Chad & Cheese's back-to-back travels is a tour de force that finds the boys in Paris for Unleash - taking residency at the Textkernel booth - after a stint in Vegas for HR Tech. The recruiting news never sleeps, of course, so the boys are covering alerts out of LinkedIn, Stack Overflow, The Martec, Yardstik and Citibank this week. Additionally, there's an extensive list of shoutouts from their European adventures and a few special birthday announcements. Grab a baguette and a chunk o' fromage, Pierre! There's a podcast révolution goin' on up in here!
10/20/202332 minutes, 49 seconds
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JobIndex vs. Google Drama Continues

When asked why he robbed banks, Willie Sutton simply replied, “Because that's where the money is.” The same might be said for JobIndex's lawsuit against Google for copyright infringement, claiming the world's most popular search engine is taking their content and publishing it to Google for Jobs without permission. Anyway, the boys dig into this claim and voices, tempers and hilarious soundbites commence. But wait, that's not all. They also dig into cover letters and why AI either does or doesn't make a bit of difference. (Spoiler alert: There's a story about a perfume-drenched CV.) Then ending on a high note, it's Who'd Ya' Rather with CareerFairy and Mintago.
10/18/202342 minutes, 33 seconds
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Upskilling Mind Games w/ Geri Morgan

Mind Games was a song penned by John Lennon. This interview has nothing to do with the famous Beatle, but up-skilling your workforce through the power of gamification is all the rage right now. That’s why we invited Geri Morgan, chief people officer at Intellum, an Atlanta-based learning technology company, on the show. Turns out, Geri is doing some amazing things with gamification that every employer could learn from. You probably won’t get Pac-Man Fever, but you’re likely to practical tips on how to improve retention and empower your workforce like never before.
10/16/202328 minutes, 1 second
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Achtung HR Tech Vegas!

The boys are snapping necks and cashing checks this week from the HR Tech Conference in Las Vegas from the Fuel50 booth. After giving some much-deserved love appreciation to Friends of Chad & Cheese that we’re in attendance, the boys dig into the latest news from show sponsor Harri, covering the latest round of funding with the company’s CFO, who jumped in during the show. If that’s not enough for a shortened roadshow, the guys discuss takeaways from the conference and wonder why startups in certain parts of the country have a tough time with naming their companies. Oh yeah, and a breakdown of U2 at the Sphere goes down. It was a beautiful day, indeed.
10/13/202335 minutes, 49 seconds
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Shredded: Harri, Jisr, Gigster, Lance Free, candidate.fyi, Workfully & More

The Shred is a weekly roundup of who’s raised funds, who’s been acquired and who’s on the move in the world of recruitment. The Shred is brought to you today by Jobcase.
10/12/20237 minutes, 9 seconds
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Google for Jobs Insights w/ Alexander Chukovski

When Google launched their job search engine, dubbed Google for Jobs, a lot of people scoffed, remembering past failures from the world’s largest search engine dipping its toes into employment. Hello, Google Base and Google for Hire? Well, no one’s scoffing now. Google seems to be all-in, with a pay-per-click (PPC) offering coming soon. Optimizing for search results can be challenging. That’s why we invited Alexander Chukovski, founder at Crypto Careers, to take a look at the ins and outs of optimizing for Google when job postings are in play. Crypto Careers connects professionals and businesses building digital assets and blockchain technology, so Alexander knows how to tackle the tough segments. If your jobs are on Google - and they probably are - then this is an episode you don’t want to miss.
10/11/202334 minutes, 14 seconds
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Firing Squad: Vette's Amber Wanner

Recruiting startups hoping to replace human beings in the hiring process - or at least minimize them - litter the landscape. Chatbots, for example, are all the rage. At least one startup, however, thinks you can have the best of both worlds: scale and high touch. Amber Wanner, founder and CEO of Vette, brings her message to the Firing Squad to see if Chad & Cheese can be convinced that there’s still a place for humans in Human Resources. Does she survive? Gotta listen to find out.
10/9/202333 minutes, 33 seconds
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LinkedIn's Appetite for Destruction & Indeed's New Lipstick

This episode could've been a double album it's so full of amazing content ... Chad & Cheese: The White Album, if you will. We're talkin' layoffs at Snagajob and Meta, Indeed telling customers, "There's nothing to see here," LinkedIn embracing its inner Guns 'n' Roses, OpenAI taking aim at Apple's iPhone, Tesla getting nervous about the UAW strike, Who'd Ya' Rather with Hiring Branch and Transfr and Chipotle's "cobotics," collaborative robots that work with, rather than replace, humans. It's a nice compliment to Chipotle’s Chippy and Autocado automation. Drink it all in, because the boys are travelin' for the next 2 weeks, so we made sure this one was the Big Mac of podcast episodes.
10/6/202357 minutes, 16 seconds
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Shredded: ADP, EEOC, Randstad, Visier, JobSync, Daxtra, Factorial, Fuell, Transfr & More

The Shred is a weekly roundup of who’s raised funds, who’s been acquired and who’s on the move in the world of recruitment. The Shred is brought to you today by Jobcase.
10/5/20237 minutes, 48 seconds
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Germany’s Personio is Comin' to America

The European show is typically filled with one or the other: An American company in Europe, or a European company in America. This week, lucky listener, includes BOTH. America’s Uber, on the heels of dealing with similar legislation in California, now finds itself juggling an EU who wants to treat giggers as full-time employees. (Cue the higher-rates, longer waits fear mongering!) On the other end of the continental expansion is Deutschland-HQ’d Personio growing its footprint in America with an office in New York City. What’s more? How about a lively conversation spurred by the latest round of Buy or Sell, featuring Heyu Works, Recrubo, Freework and Kenjo.
10/4/202347 minutes, 54 seconds
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The AI Guru Talks Regulations

The word audit scares most people. Hello, IRS? But sometimes audits can be your best friend for getting a good night’s sleep, especially when A.I. recruiting is involved. With laws being passed all the time that could put your company in jeopardy, you need some solid advice. That’s why we invited Guru Sethupathy, founder & CEO of FairNow AI to help us make sense this A.I. audit stuff. FairNow is a platform for simplifying and automating fairness compliance. They help businesses by auditing and monitoring AI algorithms in hiring. FairNow is on a mission to help companies build trust in their A.I. and if you’re looking at giving your vendors a deep dive to make sure they keep you out of the crosshairs of law enforcement, then this episode if a must.
10/2/202338 minutes, 44 seconds
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Google, Amazon, and Microsoft's AI Showdown

The news this week is hot. In fact, in the time it took to write that sentence, the news got a little hotter. We're talkin' picket lines, Josh Bersin trash-talkin', LinkedIn is your new crazy uncle HOT. We're talkin' Amazon is droppin' billions to invest in generative AI companies, job boards are bailin' on ChapGPT job searchin', Getty Images sealin' its content from AI hot. And we're talkin' NFL stars goin' into porn after football HOT! Someone get us a cold beer and a fire extinguisher!!!
9/29/202348 minutes, 19 seconds
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Shredded: LinkedIn, Erudit, CareerFairy, Mintago, Giftpack & More

The Shred is a weekly roundup of who’s raised funds, who’s been acquired and who’s on the move in the world of recruitment. The Shred is brought to you today by Jobcase.
9/28/20235 minutes, 56 seconds
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Will AI Take Recruiter Jobs w/ Amy Butchko

“Is recruiting dead?” On this episode, Chad Sowash goes straight for the jugular and doesn’t let up. Fortunately, Amy Butchko, VP of TA at Maximus, is light on her feet and takes everything the boys throw at her and counters like the true champ she is. This interview was part of ATAP’s recent online event and covers all things A.I. when it comes to hiring. From audits to legal minefields to messaging to budgeting and everything in between, this one’s got it all, including Q&A with the live audience of recruiting veterans.
9/27/202331 minutes, 29 seconds
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Firing Squad: Hyperjob's Janis Kreilis

Effective LinkedIn outreach can be the difference between a recruiter on Skid Row and one on Easy St. One start-up that promises to put headhunters on the fast track to champagne ‘n' cocaine is HyperJob, a solution that says it”ll replace your plain-text job descriptions with interactive job microsites. The solution, founded by Janis Kreilis, CEO and co-founder, uses A.I. to evaluate LinkedIn profiles and craft individual messages with artificial intelligence from there. Hmmm, another start-up relying on LinkedIn for its success. What could possibly go wrong? Gotta listen to see if HyperJob survived the Firing Squad or not.
9/25/202339 minutes, 27 seconds
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HiBob Growth, Oyster Shrinkage

The world seems to be balancing a lot of good news with the bad news these days. At least that’s an improvement from the days of COVID when it was all bad. Anyway, that same balance impacts the recruiting industry, and thus this episode. The good news: Amazon, Salesforce are hiring and companies like HiBob, Druid, Catalyte, Betterleap and others are raising new funds. The bad news: Google just laid-off hundreds of recruiters globally and Oyster, who’s raised $224 million is going through its second round of layoffs this year. Then the boys cover the UAW strike vs. the Big Three, ask whether we really need CEOs when there’s AI and wonder why Elon isn’t turning X (formerly Twitter) into an OnlyFans competitor. Even Rep. Lauren Boebert would approve. Enjoy.
9/22/202351 minutes, 41 seconds
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Shredded: HiBob, Personio, Bullhorn, Spark Hire, Workfree, Chally, Betterleap, Catalyte & More

The Shred is a weekly roundup of who’s raised funds, who’s been acquired and who’s on the move in the world of recruitment. The Shred is brought to you today by Jobcase (https://www.jobcase.com).
9/21/20237 minutes, 54 seconds
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JobIndex Blames Google

I once had a roommate who dated a stripper named Candy. Never thought that would be relevant to a podcast, but here we are. Strange days, but that’s Europe for ya’. On this episode of The Chad & Cheese Podcast Does Europe, the boys aren’t only (un)covering strippers, but also discussing Google’s latest lawsuit, alleging Big G unfairly competing against job board JobIndex, a new lie detection software that’s bound to be abused by rogue recruiters, and Elon Musk’s X Hiring from a European point of view. Did I mention these are strange days in Europe? Yup, gotta listen.
9/20/202334 minutes, 32 seconds
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Special Delivery! How UPS Leverages Text Recruiting

Text messaging, or SMS, first came into prominence two decades ago by voting on American Idol, but the technology is as hot as ever for employers. It’s starting to look like text recruiting is here to stay. That’s why we invited Rick Koerner, VP of unified communications at UPS on the podcast. Rick has been texting with job candidates for almost a decade, and he brings his best tips and takeaways to the podcast. Along the way, he throws in anecdotes on all things UPS, like how deliveries only happen one right turn at a time to increase efficiency, and his own story about why he doesn’t have a LinkedIn profile. Say what?!?!?
9/18/202327 minutes, 12 seconds
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Uber Takes Aim at TaskRabbit

Looking for an episode as spicy as Nashville hot chicken sandwich? Then you’ve come to the right place. Heading into Day Two of Recfest, the boys keep things tight this week, thanks largely to hangovers and healing vocal cords. Topics include a rundown of Recfest, parties hosted by yours truly and insights into all things Nash-Vegas. There is news too, however, and the boys are covering stories from Grindr (yep, they’re back on the pod), Uber taking on TaskRabbit and a certain CEO in Australia saying the things about workers that all other CEOs are thinking. Grab some BBQ sauce, pour a glass of Jack and enjoy this week’s show.
9/15/202342 minutes, 36 seconds
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Shredded: Uber, First Advantage, CareerArc, Bandana, Lumber, Lumina & More

The Shred is a weekly roundup of who’s raised funds, who’s been acquired and who’s on the move in the world of recruitment. The Shred is brought to you today by Jobcase.
9/14/20236 minutes, 44 seconds
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Firing Squad: Skillit's Fraser Patterson

What a start-up calls itself usually says a lot about it. It can also say a lot about its prospects for future success. Enter Skillit, a company that connects the supply of skilled workers with contractor demand in the $1.6 trillion annually construction industry through its platform for sourcing, skills assessment, hiring, and training. And you thought a name like Skillit would be serving Grand Slam breakfasts at your favorite brunch spot, didn’t you? Nope, and Fraser Patterson, founder, and CEO of the company is on Firing Squad to tell you why he’s the next big thing? Hey, we’ll be the judge of that, pal. Listen and reveal Skillit’s fate.
9/13/202336 minutes, 58 seconds
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Pay Transparency Directive w/ Maria Colacurcio & Anita Lettink

Europe has been a leader when it comes to passing laws that protect individual privacy and support pay equity for years, and a new law taking hold will require a large number of companies to publish salary ranges just a few short years from now. It’s all pretty detailed - and probably pretty confusing to a lot of Americans - which is why we invited Maria Colacurcio, CEO at Syndio and Anita Lettink, future or work speaker & HR tech advisor, to the podcast. We have so many questions, and it’s a good thing they have all the answers. If you’re doing business in Europe, it’s a must-listen. And if you’re in North America, it could be a crystal ball into the future. https://synd.io/blog/eu-pay-transparency-cheat-sheet/
9/11/202340 minutes, 56 seconds
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Women Are Leaving LinkedIn

A new survey says 74 percent of women on LinkedIn believe the “relentless flirtations” on the network are too much to bear and either limit their use of the platform or left entirely. That’s a serious problem for LinkedIn, and the boys dig into the issue and offer some possible remedies. LinkedIn isn’t the only one with problems, of course. Deel, an industry player who’s raised a total of $679 million to date, has its feet to the fire following an exposè by The Information. Plus, AI is trying to kill us, or at least the good folks of New Zealand, while kids in America are the new slave labor down on the farm. Then you have Delta who, along with Tom Brady, have formed an unholy alliance that’s wrong on so many levels. At least there’s some good news out of Indeed … wait, what? Gotta listen to find out.
9/8/202352 minutes, 13 seconds
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Shredded: The Muse, deskbird, Koios, Starred, Talenthub, Fairygodboss, Kingsley Gate & More

The Shred is a weekly roundup of who’s raised funds, who’s been acquired and who’s on the move in the world of recruitment. The Shred is brought to you today by Jobcase.
9/7/20236 minutes, 24 seconds
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Are Newspapers Still Relevant for Employers? Kinda.

Newbies in recruiting have a hard time understanding the time when newspapers ruled the world of work and finding talent. Gannett was one of those world rulers. Maybe you know USA Today, for example? Anyway, technology has forced them to evolve to survive, and they sometimes play an invaluable role for employers looking to attract Human Resources. That’s why we had to get Anna Brekka, Director Recruitment Strategy at Gannett | USA TODAY NETWORK, on the pod. Anna is an industry veteran with a robust understanding of the business, so you’d be wise to put on your thinking cap while you listen. Yeah, she brings data to the party too. (By the way, this one isn’t just for the kids; it’s an awesome trip down memory lane for the gray hairs too.)
9/6/202322 minutes, 19 seconds
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Indeed Flexes, LinkedIn Cringes and Amazon Reneges

Looking to celebrate Labor Day with some labor-focused news? Then you’ve come to the right place. Twitter taking on the world of work with X Hiring is officially official as Elon Musk trash talks LinkedIn. Indeed is flexing its muscle by expanding Indeed Flex into storefront locations in Texas. Two startups - TeamSense vs. Nursa - battle it out in a game of Who’d Ya' Rather? Amazon’s CEO is whipping employees back into the office after supporting a very relaxed policy since Covid, and airlines are making life a little easier for travelers who enjoy a little peace and quiet, while making things less comfortable for plus-sized trekkers. Plus, we update you on iCIMS exiting CEO, upcoming parties, and “masterdating.”
9/1/202348 minutes, 46 seconds
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Shredded: Smartrecruiters, Oyster, Nursa, Teamsense, Raise & More

The Shred is a weekly roundup of who’s raised funds, who’s been acquired and who’s on the move in the world of recruitment. The Shred is brought to you today by Jobcase.
8/31/20236 minutes, 7 seconds
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Europe is Old

Summer is winding down and Europeans are coming down from their holiday highs, so it’s a great time to drop some knowledge bombs from the Old Country. Staffing agencies are under fire for what politicians say is price-gauging customers in return for placements in the healthcare space. The care may be subsidized in Europe, but the placements are capitalism at its best (or worst). A toxic combination. A little Who’d Ya' Rather? follows, pitting 11x AI against Borderless. Weird names, but interesting businesses. Who wins? Gotta listen. A story out of Italy closes out the show with a new story about ending benefits for thousands of families and individuals deemed "fit to work.”
8/30/202348 minutes, 18 seconds
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Seven Circles of Compliance Hell with Jocelyn King

In the past, we’ve been critical of SHRM investing money into startups. Seems like a big conflict of interest, but whatever. Since SHRM isn’t running to talk to Chad & Chelsea about it, how about the next best thing: The company SHRM gave money? That’s why we brought Jocelyn King, CEO of VirgilHR to the show. VirgilHR is an interactive technology that lets employees ask HR compliance questions in real-time. Seems like a company ripe for disruption from the likes of ChatGPT, but you’d be wrong (or at least that’s what Jocelyn says). The way that they chose their name is pretty cool too. Heck, it’s an all-around banger of an interview. Enjoy.
8/28/202321 minutes, 29 seconds
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Grindr Takes Aim at LinkedIn

As summer drags on, the boys had to get out of the house for a change of scenery, deciding to head to Chicago to see how things at Shaker Recruitment Marketing were doing … as well as do a show in the process. (That means the usual dose of cameras, crowds and a debauchery, of course, just in real life this time.) The boys discuss tons of AI topics, including The New York Times taking on OpenAI and the state of New York regulating employee monitoring. Plus, The America First Legal Foundation is crying reverse discrimination, while Kid Rock is still drinking Bud Lite and Grindr and X, the artist formerly known as Twitter, are looking to be the next LinkedIn (yeah, really). As an added bonus, Shaker president Joe Shaker, Jr. joins us for a fireside chat, focused on the state of programmatic job advertising, to close out an amazing 24 hours in the Windy City.
8/25/20231 hour, 6 seconds
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Shredded: CareerBuilder, ThisWay Global, Howdy, Teamshares, Geekhunter, Borderless & More

The Shred is a weekly roundup of who’s raised funds, who’s been acquired and who’s on the move in the world of recruitment. The Shred is brought to you today by Jobcase.
8/24/20237 minutes, 42 seconds
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Kudoboard says You’re Kind of a Big Deal

Employees love to be recognized. It’s not just promotions and big deals, however. We’re talkin' birthdays, anniversaries, adopting a cat, everything. OK, maybe not a cat adoption, but you know what we mean. That’s why we brought Aaron Rubens, cofounder and CEO at Kudoboard to the show. He runs the online workplace appreciation solution for special occasions, shout outs, and everything in between, helping to replace the card that’s passed around and signed on birthdays, holidays, and special occasions for generations. Crazy thing is, they’re crushing it. To find out why - and how - you gotta listen.
8/23/202318 minutes, 2 seconds
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What's My Problem with Josh Rock

It’s a rare breed of professional that has worked on the vendor side of HR tech, as well as the TA practitioner side. So, when we got the opportunity to chat with Josh Rock, currently Talent Acquisition Manager at Nuss Truck, and former executive at JobDig, LinkUp and CollegeRecruiter, we jumped at the chance. Recorded at SHRM, it’s a candid conversation about the industry from both sides of the fence.
8/21/202327 minutes, 27 seconds
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iCIMS CEO Abruptly Steps Down

This week was all over the map. After less than a year on the job, iCIMS' CEO is stepping down in a rather unexpected way, the EEOC settled its first AI-based hiring discrimination case, Recruiter.com sold some IP to Job Mobz (who?), college degrees lose more luster, tech jobs remain strong after layoffs from Big Tech throughout 2023 and chatbots continue to have their fans, as well as their detractors. Oh, and robotaxis are invading San Francisco. The summer may be starting to wind down, but the recruiting news remains red hot! Enjoy, Like and Share!
8/18/20231 hour, 3 seconds
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Shredded: Dice, Recruiter.com, Toothio, Futuris, Noor Staffing Group, 11x AI & More

The Shred is a weekly roundup of who’s raised funds, who’s been acquired and who’s on the move in the world of recruitment. The Shred is brought to you today by Jobcase.
8/17/20237 minutes, 23 seconds
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Remote Work Tug of War w/ Mary Elkordy

The work-from-home movement is under fire. Jamie Dimon says it’s a productivity issue. Elon Musk says it’s a moral issue. As a result, more and more employers are forcing people back to the office. Even Zoom is bringing people back. The future is uncertain, for sure. That’s why we brought Mary Elkordy, president & CEO at Elkordy Global Strategies to the show. Elkordy Global Strategies is a full-service PR firm, well-versed in influencer marketing, talent integration, social media strategy, strategic communications, and digital marketing. A great guest with a unique perspective on a complicated topic. Enjoy!
8/16/202323 minutes, 50 seconds
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A Wild Ride to Rivian /w Rameen Fattahi

Ever wanted to hear an interview with a former recruiter at Facebook, Apple and Tesla? How about one that’s currently blazing a trail at EV maker Rivian? Well, it’s your lucky day, because Chad & Cheese sat down with Rameen Fattahi, director, recruiting operations & insights at Rivian while they were all at iCIMS Inspire to hear Rameen’s story. Don’t worry. Along the way, there are stories about Elon and Zuck.
8/14/202345 minutes, 5 seconds
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ZipRecruiter’s Terrible, Horrible, No Good, Very Bad Day

Think you’re having a bad day? It’s probably not as bad as ZipRecruiter’s shareholders had this week. To say times are tough would be an understatement. But it’s not just Zip, as much of the space is having a pretty tough time on Wall Street and just about everywhere else. Dice. Recruit. All bad. Not dire enough? Want some more dogs-and-cats living together scenarios? Zoom employees are going back to the office (yeah, that Zoom), WeWork is more like WeOuttabiz, everyday Americans are beating up UberEats' rolling automated coolers, Elon is still loco, America doesn’t have enough semiconductor talent to support the Chips Act and fake women are becoming more popular than real women. Grab a bottle of your favorite whiskey for this one. Things are gettin' gettin', gettin' kinda hectic.
8/11/202351 minutes, 8 seconds
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Shredded: Employ, Flo Recruit, One Model, Hirewell, The Collective Search & More

The Shred is a weekly roundup of who’s raised funds, who’s been acquired and who’s on the move in the world of recruitment. The Shred is brought to you today by Jobcase.
8/10/20235 minutes, 8 seconds
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Discipline is Key w/ Shannon Pritchett

Live from UNLEASH America in the Workhuman booth, Shannon Pritchett, head of marketing and community at HireEZ, joins the boys for a conversation covering the state of sourcing, how HireEZ is embracing ChatGPT and other AI technologies around recruiting and how disruption is set to be business as usual throughout our industry. More: Shannon Pritchett - www.linkedin.com/in/sourcingshannon/ Workhuman - http://www.workhuman.com UNLEASH America - http://www.unleash.ai
8/9/202319 minutes, 41 seconds
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Firing Squad: InSquad's Alex Svinov

Tech hiring is in kind of a weird place right now. Newsworthy layoffs, artificial intelligence threats, and a down economy mean a lot of indecision and uncertainty. Many companies are just pushing pause as a result. All this makes for a tricky environment for any and all startups looking to place high-tech workers. InSquad, a one-click solution to source and hire top-quality vetted remote software developers, ain’t scared though. That’s why CEO Alex Svinov decided to face the Firing Squad. He thinks he has a better mousetrap than the likes of Upwork, Turing, Andela, and many others. Is he right? Gotta listen to find out.
8/7/202334 minutes, 23 seconds
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LinkedIn's New AI and Rippling's New ATS

Tech teams must have a little time on their hands. Either that, or they’re abnormally inspired after a spring of big tech layoffs. OK, maybe both. Anyway, LinkedIn is apparently launching new A.I. features for job seekers and Rippling is getting into the ATS game. Other than that, the boys discuss Yellow trucking’s epic crash, chatbots like Paradox landing in Forbes' penalty box, and Tom Brady beefing up his resume and investment portfolio. Throw in the beginning of the NFL season and marriage advice from porn star Mia Khalifa and you’ve got one helluva show.
8/4/202345 minutes, 36 seconds
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Shredded: Rippling, Robert Half, Perceptix, Avionté, Humu, SimpleVMS & More

The Shred is a weekly roundup of who’s raised funds, who’s been acquired and who’s on the move in the world of recruitment. The Shred is brought to you today by Jobcase.
8/3/20235 minutes, 9 seconds
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Euro Trip Recovery aka Hot Lieven Summer

Europeans are well-known for taking a long break from work in the summer, but if you think the world of work has taken a break, think again. On this episode, the boys cover the Appcast acquisition of Bayard from a European point of view, and how Stepstone (might) play a part in this game of chess. France has also been a full plate of work related activities and challenges, which get covered. If you love buy-or-sell, we have a robust line-up, and a hotly debated group of startups, including inploi, Propel, Settly, Zelt and Neople … no, not Nipple, you sicko … Neople.
8/2/202349 minutes, 57 seconds
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A.I. Trifecta: Military, Google, & Tom Hanks w/ Thom Kenney

Just when you thought you understood the definition of artificial intelligence, along comes generative A.I. Confusing? Yeah. That’s why we invited Thom Kenney, former Smashfly CEO and current director at Google on the show. T.K. helps us better understand what the hell is going on in the world today, including diving into the current writer’s strike in Hollywood, security concerns and what in the world comedian Sarah Silverman is so upset about. Put your thinking cap on for this one.
7/31/202347 minutes, 39 seconds
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Google Battleplan: Crushing Indeed & ZipRecruiter

Elon is just the gift that keeps on giving, isn’t he? But this week is particularly special as Twitter, er, X, or whatever, has gone through a rebrand, and more importantly, getting into recruitment with the launch of Twitter Hiring. Not to be outdone, Google is set to launch a full-on PPC solution for its Google for Jobs offering. How will Indeed and others respond? We discuss. What’s more, DEI initiatives are on life-support according to a recent Wall Street Journal article and Eons 2.0 is here in the form of Peppermint. And in China, young adults becoming perma-children as a form of employment is now a thing. Yeah, really. By the way, Chad is back in the USA after his stint in Europe, and let’s just say the disappointment is strong, which you’ll see on our YouTube channel.
7/28/202351 minutes, 27 seconds
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Shredded: Twitter, inploi, Immediate, Smartlinx, Zelt, Skillit & More

The Shred is a weekly roundup of who’s raised funds, who’s been acquired and who’s on the move in the world of recruitment. The Shred is brought to you today by Jobcase.
7/27/20237 minutes, 19 seconds
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Recruiter Genie Tech Hacks w/ Angad Madra

Not sure if you’ve heard or not, but recruiting and retaining healthcare professionals is a hot topic these days. No one has really figured out the secret sauce or found the magic bullet. That’s why Chad & Cheese sat down with Angad Madra, director HR technology and analytics at Ardent Healthcare, at iCIMS Inspire in San Diego. On this episode, get ready to snack on a tasty dose of healthcare recruitment, best retention practices and impact of the gig economy. Your blood pressure is sure to normalize after this one if you’ve been stressed about hiring in this sector.
7/26/202319 minutes, 46 seconds
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Shredded: ThisWay Global, Trillium, Offsite, Ascend, Smartstaff & More

The Shred is a weekly roundup of who’s raised funds, who’s been acquired and who’s on the move in the world of recruitment. The Shred is brought to you today by Jobcase.
7/24/20235 minutes, 53 seconds
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Indeed Mirage & Business Blockers w/ Julia Levy

Live from UNLEASH America in the Workhuman booth, Julia Levy, industry veteran, superfan of the podcast, and former head of global talent acquisition at CommScope, join the boys for conference takeaways, the current state of recruiting, and how organizations can best adapt to change in a world that, let’s face it, has gone a bit nutso. Indeed mirage products, LinkedIn just doesn't care, and Talent Acquisition trying to remove business and budget blockers.
7/24/202317 minutes, 52 seconds
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Glassdoor's New Gossip Machine

If you loved last week’s episode breaking down Appcast’s acquisition of Bayard, then you’ll love this one too. Plenty of commentary and criticism in the aftermath of the deal to discuss whether or not Stepstone knows what it’s doing. Not to be outdone, Glassdoor’s R&D department woke-up long enough to build an “innovation” it calls Bowls. (Yeah, we’re confused too.) Then there’s so much AI news that we had to go rapid fire and highlight our favorite stories. And, of course, another week of sexbots, chips in your brain and living like Hugh Hefner at the Playboy mansion for the rest of your days. Good times, and a great listen.
7/21/202354 minutes, 10 seconds
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Chatbots Are Not Enough w/ Sean Behr

Hourly hiring remains incredibly challenging for employers all over the world. Fountain is one of the leading solutions to help companies solve this problem. That’s why we invited Fountain CEO Sean Behr to the show. Hot off the heels of a recent acquisition and live from SHRM, if you’re doing high-frequency hiring, this interview is a must-listen.
7/19/202333 minutes, 18 seconds
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Firing Squad: Kula's Achu Ravi

Automated sourcing, referrals and analytics are all pretty popular features to have in your tech stack these days, but what about a startup that delivers - or at least hopes to deliver - all these things. That’s where newbie Kula comes in. Achu Ravi, founder & CEO of the company that is “On a mission to turn every employee into a recruiter” takes on the Firing Squad in this episode. A bold undertaking, and barely out of diapers, Kula has raised nearly $15M dollars to take on the world but let's see if they can even get past The Squad. MORE Kula: www.kula.ai Achu: www.linkedin.com/in/achuthanand-ravi-b341ab59/ Chad & Cheese: www.chadcheese.com
7/17/202335 minutes, 3 seconds
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Appcast Goes Full-Blast

After a week of travel and nursing a Recfest hangover, the boys are particularly feisty this week. The recent acquisition of recruitment marketing agency Bayard by Stepstone’s Appcast provides ample fodder for some big-time opinion on the news and the ripple effect it’ll have on the industry as a whole. What’s more, could Meta’s strike against Twitter with Threads be a sign of things to come in recruitment or not (talkin' to you, LinkedIn). Plus, buy-or-sell with alfii, RecruitBot and Zinc, then a deep dive into the Lazy Girl trend taking TikTok by storm.
7/14/202351 minutes, 54 seconds
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Shred: alfii, RecruitBot, Propel, stellarup

The Shred is a weekly roundup of who’s raised funds, who’s been acquired and who’s on the move in the world of recruitment. The Shred is brought to you today by Jobcase.
7/13/20235 minutes
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Grow At All Costs w/ Vanessa Burnaby

Another top-notch interview from our time at iCIMS Inspire in the spring. This one features Vanessa Burnaby, VP of Global TA at Avalara, a cloud-based tax compliance solution to handle every transaction in the world. Previously, Vanessa also served at Workday and SAP as a talent acquisition leader. She has been efficiently scaling and building strong teams, most recently, through recruitment automation, the ability to streamline processes and scale, primarily through focusing on strong analytics strategies. We don’t spend a lot of time interviewing TA pros with such a deep competency of the job and the industry, so this one is a must-listen.
7/12/202317 minutes, 50 seconds
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Appcast Buys Bayard - THE SHRED

Appcast, the global leader in programmatic recruitment advertising technology and services, announced today its acquisition of recruitment marketing pioneer, Bayard Advertising.
7/10/20233 minutes, 51 seconds
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Belly to Belly w/ Sean Christian

Live from UNLEASH America in the Workhuman booth, Sean Christian, senior employer brand & recruitment strategist at Discount Tire, and former Air Force recruiter, joins Chad & Cheese for a lively discussion … like, two military dudes talkin' sh!t kinda lively. Aside from the Air Force vs. Army talk, Sean drops knowledge bombs around quality vs. quantity of job boards, how metrics are the only thing that matters and how to earn a seat at the table. More: Sean Christian - https://www.linkedin.com/in/seanpchristian/ Workhuman - www.workhuman.com UNLEASH America - www.unleash.ai
7/10/202327 minutes, 47 seconds
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Stepstone Steps In It

Things have been pretty quiet on the unicorn front lately, but thanks to ChatGPT and Nvidia, that’s about to change, and it will undoubtedly impact the recruitment space. The boys discuss. The US Supreme Court struck down Affirmative Action, and it too will undoubtedly impact recruiting. The boys discuss. Stepstone’s CEO stepped in it this week, and they’re more than a little defensive about their own DEI efforts. Again, discuss. Plus, Beyond.com insight, flying cars and spider humans. Oh, and full English breakfasts. What’s up with the baked beans anyway?
7/7/202347 minutes, 28 seconds
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A.I. Can't Replace Recruiters w/ Andreea Wade

Probably one of the most enjoyable podcasts you've listened to this year or ever. Yea, it's that fun and good! They say never meet your idols. They also say don’t fall in love with new tech. OK, the latter saying is less popular, but Andreea Wade, VP of product strategy, says it, and that’s why we wanted to chat with her, live at iCIMS Inspire in San Diego. Andreea’s also a winner of Chad & Cheese’s Death Match competition - and we love her - so there was plenty of reason to hangout. Andreea is kind of a big deal when it comes to AI, has strong opinions about ChatGPT and enjoys a good convo about bias.
7/5/202320 minutes, 32 seconds
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Shredded: VanHack, NinjaJobs, Settly, Oliva, Cakewalk, Neobrain, DataPeople & More

The Shred is a weekly roundup of who’s raised funds, who’s been acquired and who’s on the move in the world of recruitment. The Shred is brought to you today by Jobcase.
7/4/20237 minutes, 8 seconds
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Shifting Talent Tectonics with Steven Hunt

Shifting demographics combined with the digitalization of all aspects of life are transforming the nature of work. This is forcing companies to rethink how they design jobs and recruit, develop, and engage employees. Live from UNLEASH America in Las Vegas, Dr. Steven Hunt joins Chad & Cheese to discuss his new book. In Talent Tectonics: Navigating Global Workforce Shifts, Building Resilient Organizations, and Reimagining the Employee Experience, Dr. Hunt explains how technology is changing the purpose of work and why creating effective employee experiences is critical to building organizations that can thrive in a world of accelerating change and growing skill shortages. It’s a must-listen for anyone navigating the ebbs and flows of managing a global workforce. Enjoy and get smarter in the process. More: Dr. Steven Hunt - www.linkedin.com/in/steventhunt/ The Book - https://www.amazon.com/Talent-Tectonics-Navigating-Organizations-Reimagining/dp/1119885183
7/3/202324 minutes, 42 seconds
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Indeed Goes to France and Joonko Goes Down

While Joel takes some time in the "happiest place on earth" Chad pulls in industry pro Quincy "Queen of Chatbots" Valencia to fill in and add needed snark to this week's episode.  INDEED GOES TO FRANCE Indeed hops in the trojan horse for a trip to France where they are introducing a pay-per-results pricing model, after retreating from launching full-scale PPSA and PPA models in the US.  IS JOONKO GOING DOWN? After allegations of fraudulent conduct by Joonko's CEO?  FUTURE OF AI WORK McKinsey predicts AI's impact to occur by 2030, more than 70% of organizations struggle with the risks of using AI tools and that's just scratching the surface - ENJOY! 
6/30/202346 minutes, 20 seconds
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HR Tech Funding and M&A w/ Georgios Markakis

Let’s look at a few trends going on in workforce tech right now: inflation, layoffs, lack of VC funding, tightening budgets, and technological disruption. All combined to create uncertainty in multiple dimensions and end up laying the table for what should be a feeding frenzy for M&A. That’s why we invited Georgios Markakis, managing partner at Venero Capital Advisors, to the show. In addition to the acquisition and fundraising landscape, we look back at what things were like during the pandemic, what’s going on with IPOs, and what makes a good founder when dissecting M&A opportunities. It’s a must-listen for vendors and the founders who run them.
6/28/202329 minutes, 56 seconds
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Upskilling Essential Workers and Unleashing Worker Potential with Ashley Miller

Essential workers are all the rage right now. The only thing more popular is figuring out how to recruit them. That’s why we invited Ashley Miller, VP of HR operations at Quanta Services to sit down with us at iCIMS Inspire in San Diego. According to Ashley, start with a strong message targeted toward an inclusive audience, including military veterans, give them incredible benefits, including upskilling, and leverage technologies like SMS and video, and treat workers like family. What a concept!
6/26/202316 minutes, 6 seconds
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Cross-Continental Podcast Delight: Humanly Raising, Yale's Inspiration Porn, and More

What do you get when one cohost is in Vienna, Austria and the other is in Orlando, Florida? Pure podcasting gold, baby! Throw in the fact they’re talkin’ Humanly raising, Vidcruiter acquiring, Yale rehabbing (kinda), Google employees whining and Bud Light still losing, and you’ve got the best podcast you’ll hear today (probably). One man’s pork tenderloin is another man’s schnitzel, this week, on Chad & Cheese.
6/23/202342 minutes, 32 seconds
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Shredded: Humanly, Vidcruiter, Pollen, Kibbi, Yayem, Kitt, Tandym Group & More

The Shred is a weekly roundup of who’s raised funds, who’s been acquired and who’s on the move in the world of recruitment. The Shred is brought to you today by Jobcase.
6/22/20236 minutes, 30 seconds
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Raising Cane w/ JD Cummings

Live from UNLEASH America at the Workhuman booth, J.D. Cummings, Vice President of Recruiting at Raising Cane’s, a fine purveyor of chicken finger goodness, joins the boys to talk turkey, er, chicken, I guess. On the agenda: The art of high-volume hiring, living your brand, must-have tech tools, and yes, even the secret menu at Raising Cane’s. Be prepared to get BOB’d and have your mind opened by one of Chad & Cheese’s favorite people (and not just because he comes with gift cards). More: J.D. Cummings - https://www.linkedin.com/in/jdcummings/ Workhuman - https://www.workhuman.com UNLEASH America - https://unleash.ai
6/21/202320 minutes, 53 seconds
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Firing Squad: SHAZAMME's Rick Maré

Landing pages? Wait, did I hear you correctly? A platform for landing pages? That's correct and, in this Deja, vu moment Rick Maré and the team over at SHAZAMME are betting on a platform that helps hiring companies build better landing pages quicker. No question, this is definitely a case of "what is old is new again", but has the idea run full circle? Has it lost its luster or is it just in time? Will Rick receive big applause, a golf clap, or the FIRING SQUAD? You gotta listen to find out.
6/19/202338 minutes, 59 seconds
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NVIDIA + SYNTHESIA = Scary

Twist and SHRM, Industry Acquisitions Come Together Cheese is back from a whole week in Vegas, where he attended the SHRM National show, so we start with an update from the expo hall, including vendor takeaways, podcast superfans and a budding romance between Cardboard Chad and Cardboard Dolly Parton 🔥 Back to business, Adzuna, Beamery and Synthesia embrace AI, which is something we’ll certainly see more of from the solutions space. The show also covers recent industry acquisitions from Spark Hire and WebMD (yes, that WebMD). Then it’s Buy or Sell with Ferretly, 2045 and Swing Education. And what better way to end a show that starts with the adult playground that is Vegas than a story about an OnlyFans creator shutting down conservative commentator Piers Morgan?
6/16/202349 minutes, 27 seconds
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Shredded: Spark Hire, Ferretly, Netchex, Comeet, Swing Education, RecruitNow & More

The Shred is a weekly roundup of who’s raised funds, who’s been acquired and who’s on the move in the world of recruitment. The Shred is brought to you today by Jobcase.
6/15/20236 minutes, 9 seconds
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Peak Geezer Performance w/ Jason Cochran and Ira Wolfe

Four podcasters walk into a German bar in downtown Indianapolis to discuss the state of recruitment and chaos ensues. You know (and love) two of the podcasters (Chad & Cheese) but you may not be familiar with the other two: Ira Wolfe and Jason Cochran, co-hosts of The Geeks, Geezers, and Googlization Show. Everything from AI to automation to … ah, hell, there were too many German beers and links of sausage to remember, but trust me, it was entertaining. Gern geschehen!
6/14/202348 minutes, 20 seconds
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Innovation to Integration w/ Bennett Sung

Live from UNLEASH America in the Workhuman booth, Bennett Sung, co-founder at New Cherry and longtime industry know-it-all, joins the show to talk about everything from employer branding to the hottest takeaways from the conference to even explaining the name of his company. I mean, New Cherry? What’s that all about? For more: Bennet Sung - https://www.linkedin.com/in/bennettsung/ Workhuman - https://www.workhuman.com UNLEASH America - https://unleash.ai
6/12/202319 minutes, 58 seconds
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Indeed Uprising

Indeed Shills, HackerRank Whack-a-Mole & Cardboard Chad War games, worker woes and Cardboard Chad littered our news feed this week, so it’s fair to say this is one helluva show. Cardboard Chad is LinkedIn’s hottest trend in years (IYKYK) and is making its way to SHRM in Vegas next week. (Gotta listen to make sense of this one, sorry.) Indeed is still messing up, but they’re doing it on multiple continents this week. HackerRank plays Whack-a-Mole with ChatGPT and drones are going to kill us all. Unions and strikes are trending too. Oh yeah, Martha Stewart tells us why we should get back to the office.
6/9/202348 minutes, 4 seconds
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Shredded: UKG, Fountain, 2045, MeetFrank, Immedis, Clevy, Hybr1d & More

The Shred is a weekly roundup of who’s raised funds, who’s been acquired and who’s on the move in the world of recruitment. The Shred is brought to you today by Jobcase.
6/8/20236 minutes, 24 seconds
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HR Tech Noise w/ James Appleton

Live from UNLEASH America in Las Vegas, James Appleton, director of talent acquisition at Harri, joins Chad & Cheese for a conversation about the other side of the coin … ya' know, life through the eyes of a practitioner dealing with an onslaught of solutions looking to make recruiting more tolerable. That’s because prior to Harri, James was head of recruitment for a variety of companies, which means he knows what he’s talking about. And now he’s on the other side, pitching to employers where he used to toss opportunities to job seekers. I know, it’s confusing, but it’ll make sense after you listen. MORE Harri: www.harri.com James Appleton: www.linkedin.com/in/james-appleton1/ UNLEASH America: www.unleash.ai Chad & Cheese: www.chadcheese.com
6/7/202318 minutes, 2 seconds
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F*CK INTERVIEWS w/ Stephane Rivard

Interviews kinda suck. There’s got to be a better mousetrap, right? That’s why we brought Stephane Rivard, CEO & founder at Hiring Branch on the podcast. Proudly wearing a T-shirt that says “F*CK INTERVIEWS,” Stephane takes us through his plan to toss job interviews into the dustbin of history. No easy task, and Chad & Cheese are here to see if Hiring Branch can actually walk-the-walk. MORE Hiring Branch: www.hiringbranch.com Stephane Rivard: www.linkedin.com/in/stephane-rivard-entrepreneur/ Chad & Cheese: www.chadcheese.com
6/5/202313 minutes, 46 seconds
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Veritone Flips the ‘Bean

Layoffs, acquisitions and world-destroying A.I. … Oh, my! Veritone spreads its wings and snags Broadbean from CareerBuilder for a reported $52 million. Dice and ZipRecruiter initiate layoffs and a CEO takes a 30% pay cut. Experts say AI could soon be smarter and more powerful than us and it is time to impose limits to ensure they don't take control over humans or destroy the world (don’t worry, we talk you off this ledge). And Elon’s brain chip has been cleared for FDA testing. Wait, what?
6/2/202347 minutes, 29 seconds
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Shredded: ZipRecruiter, Veritone, Broadbean, Dice, bNear, Sana, UnifyWork & More

The Shred is a weekly roundup of who’s raised funds, who’s been acquired and who’s on the move in the world of recruitment. The Shred is brought to you today by Jobcase.
6/1/20236 minutes, 53 seconds
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No Google Bard for You!

After a long weekend on both sides of the Atlantic, the boys have downed some Tylenol and taken a nap before turning on the mics, discussing a wide range of topics. First-up is an update on CareerBuilder’s sale to Greece-based Kariera and what comes next in Europe for the brand. If you love layoffs triggered by AI, then you’ll love the story out of BT, who says they’ll cut 55,000 jobs, mostly in the UK, by the end of the decade as part of cost-cutting measures powered by AI. And speaking of AI, Google’s Bard is expanding to 180 countries, but noticeably absent from the list are countries in the European Union (EU). What’s up with that? We discuss. Then it’s on to Buy-or-Sell with Abby, Centuro Global and Belgium-based Whale.
5/31/202344 minutes, 24 seconds
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Women Exit w/ Shannon Lucas & Tracey Lovejoy

A new study says for every woman stepping into a director-level leadership role at work, two are choosing to leave. Forty-three percent of women leaders reported feeling burned out, compared to 31 percent of men, according to Lean In and McKinsey data. Women leaders are leaving their organizations at the highest rate ever. What the hell is going on? Well, don’t ask two white guys, ‘cause they’re clueless. And that’s why we brought Tracy Lovejoy and Shannon Lucas, cofounders of Catalyst Constellations and co-authors of Move Fast, Break Shit. Burn Out onto the show to dive in and find some answers. Uncovered was a lot of intriguing data, and insightful commentary … and we all got in touch with our feminine sides. Grab the Kleenex box and enjoy.
5/29/202337 minutes, 38 seconds
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Google for Jobs Takes a Nap

It’s Memorial Day weekend in the U.S. So it shouldn’t be a shock that some industry players are “out to lunch.” Google for Jobs search results have really been wacky for a lot of users around the world, and we’re here to break down why. Indeed, who’s apparently taking an extended vacation, throws some more spaghetti at the wall, and we decide if any of it will stick. And then there’s Goldman Sachs, who’s CEO is permanently at the country club (at least his lawyers are working overtime). It’s not all OOO, however, Instawork raised millions and MOD Pizza is looking to hire millions after doing away with background checks for entry-level workers. Plus, strippers unionize! God bless ‘Murica!
5/26/202348 minutes, 58 seconds
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Shredded: Stepstone, Instawork, JobGet, Opus, HR Datahub, Withe & More

The Shred is a weekly roundup of who’s raised funds, who’s been acquired and who’s on the move in the world of recruitment. The Shred is brought to you today by Jobcase.
5/25/20236 minutes, 16 seconds
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Firing Squad: Metaview's Siadhal Magos

It’s no mystery that ChatGPT is already making inroads into HR tech. So, who’s ready for “ChatGPT for interviews”? Metaview thinks you are. That’s why Siadhal Magos, Metaview co-founder and CEO, faces the Firing Squad. A former Sr. product manager at Uber, Magos, created Metaview to automatically write interview notes for recruiters in order to “save time and focus on high-quality interactions with candidates.” Maybe he’ll use Metaview to summarize his interview on Chad & Cheese, but it will be no defense against a smackdown if his pitch is a dud. Locked and loaded, let’s do this.
5/23/202336 minutes, 6 seconds
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Talent Acquisition's Elephants w/ Manjuri Sinha

This episode is a masterclass in understanding Talent Acquisition and Talent Management business strategy through the eyes of Manjuri Sinha, Global Director of Talent Acquisition at OLX, and Quincy "Queen of Chatbots" Valencia, VP and Research Director over HCM Tech at Ventana Research.  In this episode:  2021's Unethical Scaling and the impact No track of productivity metrics for Expensive Staff  Always buying and not upskilling  Attrition versus Upskilling and more!  Get ready to take notes.
5/22/202337 minutes, 3 seconds
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CareerBuilder Fire Sale

Everything Must Go at CareerBuilder! Who doesn’t love a good garage sale? Items that have outlasted their usefulness going for pennies on the dollar to a new owner. We don’t usually associate the garage sale with HR tech, but here we are (again) with the once mighty CareerBuilder giving us plenty of bargains and clearance rack specials to talk about. Lots to talk about. But the gold plated content doesn’t stop there. Twitter has made an acquisition in our space, Elon thinks remote work is a moral issue, Google just may crush half the businesses in our space with their new search, Qualifi continues to make us Hoosiers proud and there’s a new Caryn in town, and this one mints money while vacationing, well, wherever the hell she wants. Lots to digest this week; good thing Chad & Cheese are here to make sense of it all.
5/19/202348 minutes, 4 seconds
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Shredded: CareerBuilder, Twitter, BambooHR, Recruitics, Bonusly, Qualify, Salsa & More

The Shred is a weekly roundup of who’s raised funds, who’s been acquired and who’s on the move in the world of recruitment. The Shred is brought to you today by Jobcase.
5/18/202310 minutes, 6 seconds
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Acquisition Surprise

A recruitment marketing podcast with a surprise news alert? Yes, please. Recruitics made a move that all three hosts like a lot. But listen and make up your own mind. Regularly scheduled news, however, includes everything from tip bullying to Miller Lite following Bud Light, bending conservatives out of shape to Goodwill doing, well, good. All the feels in this episode. Enjoy.
5/17/202340 minutes, 9 seconds
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LIVE at iCIMS Inspire

The LIVE onstage energy is back with this performance, complete with two amazing guests, Lauree Porter, Director of HR Systems at PENN Entertainment, and Christy Spilka, Global Head of TA at iCIMS who help the boys cover a wide range of topics that preceded them during a full day of rich content. The Chad and Cheese take the stage, Joel nearly breaks a hip, hurl some t-shirts, drink some beer, and close out the first day at iCIMS Inspire, which took place Tuesday, May 9th at the Loew's Coronado Resort. Enjoy!
5/15/202331 minutes, 53 seconds
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Google & Dice Epic Fails

Imagine for a moment the 1980’s classic, “Goin' Back to Cali” by LL Cool J. Now imagine the music video, and replace LL with Chad & Cheese, and you have a pretty good picture of our week with Veritone and iCIMS. Quality time with some quality people. Of course, news travels west too, so in addition to our Cali adventures, news from Hirevue, LinkedIn, Google, Indeed, ZipRecruiter, Wendy’s and even Dice fill our show with tasty content. Enjoy … and pass the sunscreen. Links www.chadcheese.com www.youtube.com/@chadcheese
5/12/202353 minutes, 9 seconds
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Shredded: LinkedIn, Hirevue, Modern Hire, Würk, Jooble, Adsee, Jobbnorge, Build Talent & More

The Shred is a weekly roundup of who’s raised funds, who’s been acquired and who’s on the move in the world of recruitment. The Shred is brought to you today by Jobcase.
5/11/20236 minutes, 49 seconds
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Turnover Contagion w/ Andrea Derler

Did you know quitting a company is contagious? Yeah, us either. Luckily, there are really smart people looking at data and making such conclusions. That’s why we invited Andrea Derler, Ph.D., principal, research and value at Visier, a human-resources analytics company, to the show. Visier found that when employees were laid off or terminated, the likelihood that their direct colleagues would quit was 7.7 percent higher than if those employees had remained. Ooooh, that’s juicy. Sounds like a podcast topic … so let’s do this.
5/10/202329 minutes, 58 seconds
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Build, Buy, or Partner with Chris Conrad

Build, buy, or partner? Fewer questions have dogged mankind as much as this one, especially when it comes to HR tech. That’s why Chad & Cheese added Textkernel’s VP of sales in North America, Chris Conrad, to get to the bottom of this pickle, live from the big stage at UNLEASH America in Las Vegas. Along the way, they break down the issue, visit the historical implications and shine a light for current and future generations to answer this puzzling question, once and for all.
5/8/202330 minutes, 55 seconds
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HackaJob + SkyNet

Do you like your snark served up with a heaping helping of despair? Then this episode is for you. Permanent layoffs, stock crashes, and a commercial real estate meltdown are just the beginning of what A.I. has in store for us. And let’s throw in robot baby daddies to boot and child labor run amok at McDonald’s. The good news may be ridding ourselves of high-priced CEOs forever. Oh yeah, and a couple of startups - Hackajob and Simpplr - got funding, but we’re kinda mixed on those too. We’ll even throw in fake obituaries and a Gen X rant. The end is nigh, humans. 🤖 Check out more Chad & Cheese at www.chadcheese.com
5/5/202352 minutes, 45 seconds
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Shredded: Hackajob, NinjaTech AI, Simpplr, Centuro Global, Verb & More

The Shred is a weekly roundup of who’s raised funds, who’s been acquired and who’s on the move in the world of recruitment. The Shred is brought to you today by Jobcase.
5/4/20237 minutes, 12 seconds
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E5 - Pivots Happen

From a name change to another pivot, HourWork caught a wave that resulted in nearly 10,000 clients signing up. Additionally, more investments poured in, and our friend Rahkeem Morris shares his experience of being a black man raising funds for his startup. All these events led to the birth of HourWork, the company as we know it today, with a vision that's making them one of the hottest names in the industry. This finale, part of The Chad & Cheese Podcast's Voices series, may not be as thrilling as Breaking Bad or The Sopranos, but it's truly remarkable, even though I may be a bit biased. Until next time, I'm co-host Joel Cheesman, and this is more of our interview with Rahkeem Morris, the CEO and founder of HourWork.
5/3/202324 minutes, 47 seconds
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E4 - Calculated

We often hear about the inception of companies secondhand, but in this episode, you have the opportunity to hear it straight from the mouth of a co-founder. Rahkeem Morris, the CEO and founder of HourWork, shares his experience of participating in a startup competition that led them to secure their seed round. He also talks about the challenges they faced during the pandemic and the changes they had to make to their strategy. Brace yourself for a rollercoaster of emotions; you may laugh or even shed a tear, but one thing is for sure - you won't want to miss the final episode. Enjoy the show!
5/3/202315 minutes, 51 seconds
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E3 - The Google Whiteboard

Have you ever imagined being in charge of managing more than $1 billion in corporate expenses, especially in your mid-twenties, and for a renowned Silicon Valley giant? Well, in this episode, we catch up with Rahkeem Morris, the CEO and founder of HourWork, as he shares his experience of doing just that. We also delve into the early days of his entrepreneurial journey, which paved the way for even greater accomplishments. Brace yourself for yet another inspiring episode that will leave you eagerly anticipating the next one.
5/3/202316 minutes, 56 seconds
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E2 - Riding the Bus

Prepare to gain a fresh perspective on Taco Bell. In this episode, we continue our conversation with HourWork's CEO and founder, Rahkeem Morris, as he shares his experiences of working demanding hourly jobs while attending an Ivy League school. This journey proved to be rewarding, eventually leading him to secure a position at one of Silicon Valley's most esteemed companies. Tune in and enjoy.
5/3/202311 minutes, 19 seconds
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E1 - Small Town Vibes

Do you believe your childhood was difficult? Well, think again. In this episode, we have a virtual chat with Rahkeem Morris, the CEO and founder of HourWork, who joins us from downtown Boston. Rahkeem shares with us his childhood experiences, which challenged and tested him, ultimately shaping him into the successful man and leader he is today. This journey is both humbling and inspiring, and definitely worth listening to. No spoilers though!
5/3/202314 minutes, 18 seconds
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Getting The Pulse w/ Mike Woodrow

It’s helpful to check the pulse of the recruitment industry from time-to-time. It’s especially useful when the company rep who comes on the show has a newsletter called The Pulse. That’s why we brought industry veteran Michael Woodrow, CEO at Aspen Tech Labs, on the podcast. With over 120K source sites and 9M jobs in their kitty, Michael is able to speak from a position of deep understanding about the labor markets. We discuss job openings, popular trends (ChatGPT alert!), just how bullish Michael is on ZipRecruiter and whether or not a hard or soft landing is on the offing. Tune in and get smarter. Mike's last interview - Woody's Google for Jobs LOVE/HATE
5/1/202335 minutes, 20 seconds
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Beer and Podcasting in Las Vegas

We are unleashed this week as, um, UNLEASH America makes its third trip to the states. The boys wax poetic about their time in Vegas, which includes a Chad & Cheese party, a pot party and selfie consultants … don’t worry, it’ll all make sense. News-wise, CV Wallet raised money, Jobcase cuts heads and CEOs are still losing their minds over remote work. Pass the Tylenol, bet it all on black and enjoy this live episode from a Vegas dive bar.
4/28/202336 minutes, 7 seconds
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Shredded: CV Wallet, Sonet.io, Spayr, Whale, Abby & More

The Shred is a weekly roundup of who’s raised funds, who’s been acquired and who’s on the move in the world of recruitment. The Shred is brought to you today by Jobcase.
4/27/20235 minutes, 42 seconds
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Technical Debt Happens with Sean Luitjens

There’s all kinds debt. Like our bar tab. Don’t even get us started. Or technical debt, the kind that makes life difficult of developers everywhere, but especially the tech behind a lot of HR tech. That’s why we’ve invited Sean Luitjens, vice president of product management for Korn Ferry Intelligence Cloud to the podcast. After a walk down Memory Lane, highlighting Sean’s days at Monster in the ‘90s, we come back to the 21st Century and talk about issues creating headaches for tech teams today. Additionally, we discuss smart questions customers (that’s probably you) can ask vendors to make sure landmines aren’t stepped on in the future. We also explore if the technical debt can be a good thing, and what the hell is wrong with LinkedIn and its crazy high debt.
4/26/202332 minutes, 42 seconds
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iCIMS' Front Row Seat w/ Al Smith

Al Smith, CTO at iCIMS, is back on the podcast recording from his front-row seat to the AI race, he talks ChatGPT, chatbots deciding to compete with applicant tracking systems like his, what we can expect from the upcoming INSPIRE conference (icims.com) (new CEO on stage alert!) and why, exactly, he dislikes the term “ATS” so much. Al is always smart, candid, and transparent - almost like he has no filter at all - so this is a must-listen if you want an honest breakdown of the current state of tech at his company and the industry at large.
4/24/202334 minutes, 38 seconds
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Indeed Retreats

Companies rise and fall - usually because of of ego and hubris - and our industry is no different. Take CareerBuilder and Indeed for example; each to varying degrees are facing headwinds thanks to the unbridled belief that the good times will always roll and the competition is unworthy. Based on news this week, it’s looking more and more like Indeed is on the road to be the next CareerBuilder, and the boys dig in. Additionally, consolidation continues, as Fama has acquired Social Intelligence, making them a juicy acquisition target for the likes of Checkr and Sterling. What’s more, the CEO of MillerKnoll put her foot in her mouth and is paying the price on social media, while Amazon’s AWS is taking aim at Google and Microsoft’s OpenAi as another player in the artificial intelligence arms race. By the way, if you’re in Vegas for UNLEASH America next week, stop by the WorkHuman booth on Wed. and say Hi (you might even get a T-shirt).
4/21/202350 minutes, 45 seconds
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Shredded: Zoom, Workvivo, Fama, Pera, Astrix, Loopin, Innential, Augmentir & More

The Shred is a weekly roundup of who’s raised funds, who’s been acquired and who’s on the move in the world of recruitment. The Shred is brought to you today by Jobcase.
4/20/20238 minutes, 10 seconds
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Zoom'ing with Workvivo

Zoom - yes, that Zoom - has made an acquisition in the employment space and to say the boys have an opinion is an understatement. Will it be enough to fend off Microsoft, Salesforce, Google and others? So we’re sayin' there’s a chance, and I’ll leave it at that. Then it’s time for Buy-or-Sell with startups Loopin, Pera, and Equitas, which gets pretty ugly, not gonna lie. Lastly, “strategic autonomy” is something we should all add to our bandwidth as France’s Emmanuel Macron talks about moving away from the United States and becoming a third superpower. It all ends up in a pretty animated, colorful episode. Enjoy.
4/19/202340 minutes, 1 second
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Should Brands Go Woke?

Warning: This episode might make you hungry, as Chik-fil-A, In-N-Out, McDonald’s, and others get mentions. If you dare listen, however, you’ll get knowledge bombs on the trend of remote layoffs, how Hilton is turning happy workers into big profits and taking on AirBNB, and whether employers are “going broke by going woke.” Google’s pay-per-click for job postings gets airtime too … imagine that. And chicken nuggets. Lots of talk about chicken nuggets.
4/17/202344 minutes, 15 seconds
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Textio is Toast

Textio is Toast, OnlyFans is Sleepless & LinkedIn “Clears” Up Listening to Chad & Cheese is like going to your favorite restaurant: You know what’s on the menu, and you know that you love it … which is why you keep coming in for more. Cheese is back from vacation and the boys are covering acquisitions, artificial intelligence, robots, LinkedIn, OnlyFans and so much more. All the flavors you know and love. Specifically, Mitratech has gobbled up Circa and Trakstar, Textio is toast thanks to ChatGPT and the White House sounds off on AI best practices. Then, LinkedIn partners with Clear to verify IDs, Digidog is back on the beat in New York City and Walmart keeps automating to phase out more and more workers. Lastly, the boys introduce you to Claudia, OnlyFans' worst nightmare.
4/14/202348 minutes, 16 seconds
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Shredded: LinkedIn, Remote, Velocity Global, Circa, Mitratech, Assis, Rodeo, Trakstar & More

The Shred is a weekly roundup of who’s raised funds, who’s been acquired and who’s on the move in the world of recruitment. The Shred is brought to you today by Jobcase.
4/13/20236 minutes, 40 seconds
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Firing Squad: Compt's Amy Spurling

People love perks. Employees love them even more. Unfortunately, startups looking to make employee perks easy, scalable, and tax-compliant have come and gone over the years. Compt.io thinks they have a better mousetrap. That’s why Amy Spurling, CEO, and founder, has come on the Firing Squad. In a market expected to reach approximately $346 million by 2025, the stakes are high. Does Amy make it out alive? Gotta listen.
4/12/202332 minutes, 25 seconds
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Shredded: HiBob, Radancy, LeapXpert, Hyperjob, Fyndo, Ascendify & More

The Shred is a weekly roundup of who’s raised funds, who’s been acquired and who’s on the move in the world of recruitment. The Shred is brought to you today by Jobcase.
4/10/20237 minutes, 5 seconds
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Radancy Retrofit

On this week's episode I'm joined by Quincy "Queen of Chatbots" Valencia as Joel continues his aspirations to be more like his idol, Clark Griswold, with a family Vegas vacation. I got nothin' man, seriously. Any who, this week's episode is packed with goodies like: Radancy acquiring Ascendify LeapXpert gives creepy a run for its money Kelly Fusion launches DIGITAL WORKERS! 300 million jobs to be replaced by automation Everybody gonna ChatGPT - Hireology, Beamery, Seekout, Phenom, who else?!?! Is GDPR Europe's secret weapon? ... and your office mates say that you talk too much, you never shut up! It's another tech-packed episode and The Queen of Chatbots is holding court! You're welcome!
4/7/202350 minutes, 15 seconds
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Stepstone Dumps Cammio

Finland joins NATO, virtual cheese is now and thing and WOW, that whole Axel Springer taking Stepstone public isn't going well... Is it? After being acquired by Stepstone, Cammio, a video recruitment platform, is won back through a management buyout. Lieven professes his obsession with ChatGPT. Okay his healthy obsession, while we debate ownership, banning, GDPR, and some techniques. Plus, Buy or Sell with Patch, Cruit, and Epinote. If you're allergic to great content you have been warned, grab your EpiPen, a cold beer and enjoy!
4/5/202342 minutes, 13 seconds
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Co-Opting Recruiting A.I.

Thank heavens for tenue... How else would The Chad & Cheese's brash, challenging, and no-bullshit attitude get in the same room, hell the same solar system, as NYU and UNC academics? Yup, tenue has got to be the answer. Earlier this year, NYU’s Institute for Public Knowledge, the 370 Jay Project, and the NYU Tandon Department of Technology, Culture and Society hosted a new discussion in the series “Co-Opting AI”, which included this humble podcast. This event was created to examine how AI intersects with recruiting and with gaining access to the labor market. Taking a deep look into the industry and providing insights on the HR tech sector. The players: Ifeoma Ajunwa is an Associate Professor of Law with tenure at UNC School of Law. https://www.linkedin.com/in/ifeomaajunwa/ Mona Sloane is a sociologist working on design and inequality, specifically in the context of AI design and policy. https://www.linkedin.com/in/mona-sloane-ph-d-8b512656/ ...and The Chad & Cheese :) Props to The Co-Opting AI event series and Mona Sloane. It is hosted at IPK and co-sponsored by the 370 Jay Project, and the NYU Tandon Department of Technology, Culture, and Society, and the NYU Center for Responsible AI. https://ipk.nyu.edu/ https://engineering.nyu.edu/academics/departments/technology-culture-and-society https://engineering.nyu.edu/research-innovation/centers/center-responsible-ai
4/3/20231 hour, 10 minutes, 17 seconds
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Chatbots Are Back!

If you’re tired of hearing about ChatGPT, employers and vendors behaving badly, money-grubbing startups, and millions being made on OnlyFans, then maybe this episode isn’t for you. But in the likely chance that these topics are just what the doctor ordered, Chad & Cheese cover: Beamery boarding the ChatGPT train, Deel and Chipotle losing the Employer of the Year competition in just the first quarter of 2023, Buy-or-Sell with Paraform, Workera, and Payday, and a lawyer giving up the legal professional for a lewd career on OnlyFans. Feel free to hold us in contempt of court, counselor! FULL TRANSCRIPT AT chadcheese.com
3/31/202349 minutes, 21 seconds
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Shredded: Workera, Paraform, CoachHub, Payday, EuroJobsites, Carbon Neutral Club & More

The Shred is a weekly roundup of who’s raised funds, who’s been acquired and who’s on the move in the world of recruitment. The Shred is brought to you today by Jobcase.
3/30/20236 minutes, 48 seconds
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Marketing is Clueless with Brett Marz

Too often, marketing and Human Resources seem to speak different languages, which is a shame, because they have so much in common. The message that happy employees equals happy customers is ignored by too many companies. That’s we brought Brett Marz, co-founder at BAMKO (not to be mistaken for Ronco). Haven’t heard of BAMKO? They’re a more than $200 million company that designs, manufactures, and delivers award-winning branded merchandise for some of the world’s biggest brands, typically supporting employee engagement items. Needless to say, he has a lot to say on the disconnect between marketing and talent acquisition, and you’re going to hear about it. Enjoy.
3/29/202337 minutes, 44 seconds
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Building a Talent Powerhouse with Tech, Automation & Revenue Growth

Today we have a special edition of The Chad & Cheese Podcast for you today. Cue the ABBA music, which can only mean one thing, a Swedish twist as Sara Dalsfelt, Head of Brand and Community, over at Adway invited Joel and me to come on her show to talk about Building a TA Power House through Tech, Automation, & Revenue Growth. With over 1,800 registrants, much like every show, Joel and I knew that we had to bring the heat. So, we did... Enjoy!
3/27/202338 minutes, 12 seconds
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Laid off? Indeed, You Are

Layoffs! Just when you thought it was safe to go back in the water, Indeed dropped a layoff bomb this week, saying adios to 2,200 employees. Paradox officially launched an applicant tracking service, telling Fountain AI, “hold my beer.” Rippling slimes us, Ghostbusters-style. The boys play a little Buy-or-Sell with Rain and RiseKit. Karat acquires TripleByte’s tired ass and Dice gets a proverbial smackdown from the Feds. Whew! There’s a lot of meat on the bones of this week’s show, you lucky bastards.
3/24/202348 minutes, 38 seconds
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Shredded: Rippling, Radancy, Wingspan, RogueHire, RiseKit, ZingHR, Cruit, dscout & More

The Shred is a weekly roundup of who’s raised funds, who’s been acquired and who’s on the move in the world of recruitment. The Shred is brought to you by Jobcase.
3/23/20238 minutes, 30 seconds
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Grouch to Grinch

If you hear “CTO” and think chief technology officer, you clearly don’t work for United Airlines, where CTO now means chief trash officer. That’s right, United has employed Sesame Street’s Oscar the Grouch for their latest ad campaign. Don't worry, it’ll make sense after you listen. Additionally, Recruitics has published a great piece on ChatGPT as it pertains to recruiting and we discuss. We go from Grouch to Grinch to end the show, as we chat about Elon Musk’s recent foot-in-mouth actions that make DEI fans cringe and champions of serfdom cheer. Again, just listen, it’ll make sense.
3/22/202333 minutes, 53 seconds
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Fixing Factory Job Gaps w/ Patrick O'Rahilly

Over 7 million men in America have opted out of the workforce. That’s a big problem for a lot of employers, but it’s an 800 lb. gorilla kind of problem for manufacturing businesses. So what the hell is going on? Thankfully, we invited Patrick O'Rahilly (pronounced like “O’Reilly”), founder at FactoryFix, a company dedicated to curing what ails such businesses. The boys didn’t quite solve this complex problem, but they sure had a lot of fun trying. Almost as much fun as you’ll have listening.
3/20/202326 minutes, 58 seconds
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Chatbot Wars

Let’s see, Ted Lasso is back, St. Patrick’s Day is here and March Madness is in full effect. So how exactly are we supposed to muster the strength for a podcast? Well, OK, anything for you, you loyal listening selfish bastard! Here’s what's on tap this week: More Silicon Valley Bank drama, Fountain goes after Paradox, Acquisitions by Textkernel and Andela, Who’d Ya' Rather with Upduo and HeadRace A tale of two cities … one in Florida and one in New York (I know, the suspense is killing you). Now, back to the Jameson. Sláinte!
3/17/202351 minutes, 3 seconds
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Shredded: Textkernel, Horsefly, Andela, Medwing, Upduo, Orio, HeadRace & More

The Shred is a weekly roundup of who’s raised funds, who’s been acquired and who’s on the move in the world of recruitment. The Shred is brought to you by Recruitology.
3/16/20238 minutes, 56 seconds
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Europe's SVB Inoculation

You’ve heard about the meltdown at Silicon Valley Bank, right? Well, did you know that startups that employ more than 10,000 people and have raised venture funding totaling £3.5 billion in the UK were banking with SVB? Sometimes, when Corporate America sneezes, Europe gets a cold. We discuss. Then it’s time for a little Buy-or-Sell with Jobgether, Desana and Horsefly. And what podcast episode in 2023 would be complete without ChatGPT, this time with a European spin? It’s the perfect cocktail of recruitment news and commentary, just in time for St. Patrick’s Day.
3/15/202339 minutes, 13 seconds
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Firing Squad: Wilco's On Freund

We are total suckers for the ‘80s. That’s why we love Wilco’s website so much. If you haven’t checked it out, do yourself a favor if you love Pac-Man, Galaga, and Donkey Kong … basically, all-things 8-bit. Anyway, back to business, On Freund and Wilco has created a sort of knowledge base for developers within a company to not only learn new skills but also get the occasional refresher for the more seasoned professional. Is it the next big thing, or destined to the dustbin of history, along with Custer’s Revenge? Gotta listen to find out.
3/13/202336 minutes, 26 seconds
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LinkedIn's Old and Indeed's Giggy

What a week! Fast Company celebrated LinkedIn’s 20th birthday, Indeed relaunched its Gig platform and TikTok is getting closer and closer to a ban in the U.S. Good thing Chad & Cheese are here to help you make sense of everything. In addition, AI has made resume carpet bombing easier than ever, and “body doubling” is now a thing we get to talk about in workforce circles. Money keeps flowing, which means more Buy-or-Sell, this time with Barley, Fount, and Glider AI are on the chopping block. More corporate insanity: Salesforce looks seriously out of touch, laying off thousands of employees while paying actor Matthew McConaughey $10 million annually to be a "creative adviser and TV pitchman" for the firm. It can all make you want to sail away, which is good because a new cruise line promises to be your floating workplace of the future. Ships ahoy! Let’s do this!
3/10/202346 minutes, 33 seconds
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Shredded: Glider, GoCo, Fount, Barley, Tilt, Henchman, Highway Benefits, Jobgether, Desana & More

The Shred is a weekly roundup of who’s raised funds, who’s been acquired and who’s on the move in the world of recruitment. The Shred is brought to you by Recruitology.
3/9/20239 minutes, 50 seconds
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The People MBA with Jeff Lackey

You've heard it before: "HR deserves a seat at the table." It's far from reality for most organizations that see talent acquisition as a cost center and not the heartbeat of any successful company. That's why we invited Jeff Lackey, founder and CEO at JKL Advisors and podcast host of 'Growing Your Business with People' to come to give some sound advice on how Human Resources can get off the sidelines and into the game. A great discussion for newbies and grizzled veterans alike.
3/7/202334 minutes, 40 seconds
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Shredded: WorkLlama, Bonusly, Leapgen, Gable, Robin AI, Bitwise Industries, Mercer & More

The Shred is a weekly roundup of who’s raised funds, who’s been acquired and who’s on the move in the world of recruitment. The Shred is brought to you by Recruitology.
3/6/20238 minutes, 2 seconds
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Indeed's House of Cards

Joel is haggard from 2,000 miles on the road this week, but that's nothing a beer, chicken tenders, a LIVE recording from a bar in Columbus Indiana, and BIG NEWS can't fix. What big news? Google for Jobs PAID ads present a serious risk to Indeed's new CPSA model ChatGPT presents a serious risk to Indeed's new CPSA model Indeed's model change wasn't timed well Workday's A.I. goes to court Mercer gets a shot of LeapGen botox and Buy or Sell with WorkLlama, Bonusly, and Gable... Sit back, pop a cold one, and enjoy what we do best - drink and talk. You're welcome!
3/3/202354 minutes, 34 seconds
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Big in Deutschland

Joel takes this week off from the Europe show but leaves a little Virtual Cheese behind for the listeners. On this week's show: American companies make a vanity play with workers, Facebook steals instead of innovating, Lieven digs into House of HR's big acquisition in Germany Buy or Sell featuring Willo, Crew, and Brigad Plus the newest Serbian delegate to Pornhub Gern geschehen!
3/1/202345 minutes, 21 seconds
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Reunion Squad: BrightHire's Teddy Chestnut

Reunited, and it feels so good. Last time we talked to Teddy Chestnut cofounder at Brighthire - the self-proclaimed “first interview intelligence platform” - they were cleaning on big applauses on Firing Squad. That was way back before the pandemic, and needless to say, the world is different. So how are things going. Chad & Cheese bring Teddy back check-in on the startup that was founded back in 2019 and has raised almost $40 million. Even Peaches and Herb would be envious.
2/27/202328 minutes, 10 seconds
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Plum Cash & Indeed Trashed

You’re gonna feel this one, way deep down in your plums. While the number of companies getting over $50 million in funding these days is light, the number of companies getting millions isn’t waning. That’s why we highlight companies like Plum.io, Workpay, LaborWorx and HireLogic, who’ve gotten funding this week. Want some AI with your startups, we cover news of artificial intelligence algos making layoff decisions at employers. Want some news from the world of remote work? Got that too. Amazon is pivoting to 3-day workweeks, a study of companies going with 4-day workweeks was a great hit and employers who’ve take tax incentives may find themselves forcing employees back to the office. Of course, what episode would be complete with more roasting of Indeed and their new pricing structure; expect this time, the trash talking comes from the buyers on the ground.
2/24/202344 minutes, 41 seconds
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Shredded: Plum, Finch, Empyrean, Workpay, Hirelogic, Fring, Laborworx & More

The Shred is a weekly roundup of who’s raised funds, who’s been acquired and who’s on the move in the world of recruitment. The Shred is brought to you by Recruitology.
2/23/20237 minutes, 3 seconds
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The DACH Bubble w/ Wolfgang Brickwedde

If you believe Europe is a major player in the HR tech landscape - we certainly do - then you need to pay special attention to Germany, Austria, and Switzerland, a region where much of the continental growth is happening. To prove that point, Chad & Cheese had Wolfgang Brickwedde, Director of the Institute for Competitive Recruiting on the podcast while hanging out at UNLEASH in Paris. Based in Germany, "Wolfie" is uniquely positioned to give us a deep dive into this crucial region's role in recruitment globally, not just in Europe.
2/22/202311 minutes, 9 seconds
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Has Indeed Gone Too Far?

Has Indeed finally gone too far? We dig into the latest from the Indeed / Glassdoor cartel. Their new pricing model is giving customers fits, stickin' it to small- and medium-sized businesses, and in some cases, making taxpayers foot the bill for their evil deeds. Then it’s time for a little Who’d Ya' Rather with Magic.dev and Kanarys. Jumping into Upwork's new full-time offering and a trip back in time where child labor is all the rage in Minnesota and Iowa follow what’s already a bangin' episode. Want more? We dissect bounced checks, unhappy customers, and ruined Thailand vacations, compliments of Starbucks.
2/17/202344 minutes, 56 seconds
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Shredded: Fountain, Kanarys, Magic.dev, Willo, Crew, Adecco & More

The Shred is a weekly roundup of who’s raised funds, who’s been acquired and who’s on the move in the world of recruitment. The Shred is brought to you by Recruitology.
2/16/20237 minutes, 5 seconds
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The Promise of AI w/ Ryan Steelberg

ChatGPT. Deep fakes. Avatars. Google's Bard. In case you haven't noticed, artificial intelligence is changing the game. That's why we have Ryan Steelberg, Veritone's CEO and President, back on the show to check-in on the state of AI and how it impacts employment, as well as everything from communications to advertising and marketing. Veritone, who recently acquired PandoLogic, as well as Pando's Wade & Wendy, conversational AI solutions, also powers Chad & Cheese in French, Spanish, German and Portuguese. ¡Bueno!
2/15/202326 minutes, 28 seconds
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Roe vs Wade's Corp Impact

Roe v. Wade being overturned has caused a wave of political upheaval in the United States, and many employers are being impacted. It's a big deal, especially for those who hire and employ Millennials and Gen Zs. That's why the boys invited Dr. Tana M. Session, an award-winning consultant, speaker, performance coach and best-selling author to the show. We're breaking down the tough issues and challenges companies are facing with the issue of abortion rights, and even throw in a little pay transparency debate for good measure.
2/13/202335 minutes, 22 seconds
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Indeed's Monopoly

Pretty standard stuff this week: Industry layoffs at Eightfold.ai, Jobcase, and others. Unicorns. The Indeed Cartel. Buy-or-Sell with Moonhub, Listo, and Disclo. Workday's sugar daddy complex and pushes toward a 4-day work week. But while the menu is a bit vanilla, you can rest assured the spices that Chad & Cheese mix into this dish are guaranteed to leave you with a horrible case of heartburn. You have been warned, even though you know you can't look away.
2/10/202346 minutes, 59 seconds
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Shredded: ShiftMed, Greetr, DailyPay, Moonhub, Listo Global, Disclo, ChangeEngine & More

The Shred is a weekly roundup of who’s raised funds, who’s been acquired and who’s on the move in the world of recruitment. The Shred is brought to you by Recruitology.
2/9/20239 minutes, 10 seconds
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Ford's Euro Madness Job Cuts

Lieven and Chad dig deep into this week's topics as Joel takes time with family in Texas complete with a 6-pack of Lonestar. The boys talk about the impact of foreign job cuts in the EU. Is a maddening inflation-bloated economy the reason or just an excuse for Ford and others to bring jobs back to the U.S.? Welcome to the Jungle receives a big funding round and the boys break down the good, bad, and ugly aspects of the platform. Plus, a game of Buy or Sell with Coverflex, Emocional, and new Metaverse player Gemba. All the industry intelligence you can handle - No spy balloons necessary!
2/8/202336 minutes, 25 seconds
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The Guild Effect

Re-skilling and up-skilling were a common theme throughout 2022, and it shows no signs of slowing down as we head into 2023. Turns out, offering candidates and employees the opportunity to grow professionally is great for recruiting and retention. That's why we invited Natalie McCullough president and chief commercial officer at Guild on the podcast. A graduate of Stanford and Harvard Business School, as well as being a Microsoft alum means she's a great person to talk to on the subject matter. Plus: Unicorn alert! Guild has raised over $643 million and has a $3.75 billion valuation. Companies like Walmart and Target rely on them to offer valuable continuing education solutions to their workforce. It's a must-listen for anyone hiring essential workers.
2/6/202334 minutes, 9 seconds
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Can Entelo Pull It Off?

This week, the boys are all over the place. It's like Pulp Fiction were a podcast episode. CareerBuilder's all-white leadership team embraces its inner DEI, Who'd Ya' Rather with Dalia and Cleary. Entelo is turning into those deadly fungi from HBO's 'The Last of Us,' eating Silkroad Technologies from the inside out. Big fast-food chains are taking on California while speeding up that whole 'fewer employees / more robots' thing. Returnships are a new word we're all going to have to get used to and ARK's Cathie Wood believes Amazon could have more robots than employees by 2030. Is your head spinning just reading all that? Just wait till you have a listen.
2/3/202347 minutes, 33 seconds
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Shredded: Welcome to the Jungle, Dalia, Cleary, Fibery & More

The Shred is a weekly roundup of who’s raised funds, who’s been acquired and who’s on the move in the world of recruitment. The Shred is brought to you by Recruitology.
2/2/20235 minutes, 50 seconds
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The Indeed Cartel

We cover all the hot topics in this episode of The Chad & Cheese Podcast Does Recruitment Marketing: Pay transparency, ChatGPT and the Indeed / Glassdoor cartel. RecrtuimentMarketing.com's Julie Calli joins us, as usual, and her rant on Indeed is a can't-miss for anyone in the business. Plus, how will employers react to the real trend of salary transparency and is "prompt engineering" the new Boolean search string for sourcing pros?
2/1/202343 minutes, 56 seconds
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Firing Squad: JobPixel's Omar Khateeb

Video. All the kids are doin' it. But how about employers? Start-up JobPixel is pretty confident TikTok-style video is the future of recruiting. That's why Omar Khateeb CEO & founder at JobPixel decided to come on Firing Squad to pitch his company. Video may be the future, but is JobPixel the company that's going to bring it to the masses? Gotta listen to find out.
1/30/202331 minutes, 35 seconds
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Clovers Buys, Walmart Spins and TikTok Bans

Agree to disagree. Maybe that should be the title of this week's show, because there's a lot of disagreement this week. Aside from seeing eye-to-eye that the recent acquisition of TalVista by Clovers.ai makes sense, a game of Who'd Ya' Rather between Skillit and Grazzy goes sideways. So does whether or not TikTok is on its way to becoming illegal to use in the U.S. And don't even get us started on minimum wage increases at Walmart. At least we end the week in agreement that interviewing 3D avatars is both cool and creepy as well. And you thought Tengai the Recruiting Robot haunting your dreams for the last couple of years was scary! You ain't seen nothing yet.
1/27/202347 minutes, 7 seconds
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Shredded: Skillit, Grazzy, SnapNurse, Mobica, Amalia.io & More

The Shred from Chad & Cheese is a weekly roundup of who’s raised funds, who’s been acquired and who’s on the move in the world of recruitment. The Shred is brought to you by Recruitology.
1/26/20236 minutes, 36 seconds
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Euro Tech Gets Cash

The checks being written in 2023 may not be as big as the ones in 2022/21, but there sure are a lot of them already. That's why the boys play an EXTREME version of Buy-or-Sell on this episode, including HR Bot Factory, Amalia.io, awork, Arctic Shores, Huler and Gigged.ai. Our friends at Textkernel get "wise" with their recent acquisition and Wales embraces pay equality with the world's most popular sport. Oh yeah, and House of HR CEO Rika Coppens is still a total bad-ass, and she has the hardware to prove it.
1/25/202336 minutes, 58 seconds
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Reunion Squad: TalkPush's Max Armbruster

Back in 2018, we had a little competition called Death Match that pitted four startups against each other to win a coveted gold chain. It was New Orleans and the Bloody Marys were flowing. Conversational A.I. solution TalkPush, and its flamboyant CEO Max Armbruster, was there to pitch their company to a panel of judges. We go back to that moment in 2018 and then catch-up with what's been going on since then, as well as glimpse into the future for what's next. Enjoy.
1/23/202329 minutes, 34 seconds
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Beamery, Lattice, and Netflix Dumpster Fires

The boys are back, baby! The holidays are over, Chad's stateside again and predictions are in the can. That means we're back to business-as-usual, which means we're talkin' news out of Indeed, Netflix, ChatGPT, Deel and even CareerBuilder (kinda). You want more? How about layoffs at a handful of unicorns and start-ups in our space, like Beamery, Lattice, Oyster, Remote and more? If it bleeds, it leads, so you don't want to miss this Big Gulp of Chad & Cheese snarky-filled goodness.
1/20/202348 minutes, 53 seconds
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Shredded: Deel, Huler, Arctic Shores, Sona, awork, Gigged.AI, MyInterview & More

The Shred is a weekly roundup of who’s raised funds, who’s been acquired and who’s on the move in the world of recruitment. The Shred is brought to you by Recruitology.
1/19/20238 minutes, 32 seconds
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TikTok Excites and LinkedIn Snoozes

If you thought TikTok's foray into employment was going to be short-lived, it might be time to change your thinking. On this episode of The Chad & Cheese Podcast Does Recruitment Marketing with Julie Calli, we're talkin' trends from 2022 and what to look out for in '23, exclusively from the RecruitmentMarketing.com community, as well as winners from their recent industry polling. What's more, they're covering TikTok's latest push into a Creative Talent Marketplace and how savvy employers are taking advantage of influencers to market their employer brand and job openings, as well as seven updates coming from LinkedIn this year. It's a must listen if you want to stay ahead of the curve. And that said, be sure to sign-up at www.recruitmentmarketing.com and subscribe to this show too.
1/18/202342 minutes, 11 seconds
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Dad Dancing w/ Bill Boorman

To say Bill Boorman has been around the recruitment block a time or two is like admitting fish and chips is a little heavy. Both are well-known facts. That’s why we had to grab Bill at UNLEASH World in Paris for his current views on the state of employment, as well as his current engagement with VONQ. 
1/16/202327 minutes, 22 seconds
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2023 Predictions Show

You know 'em. You love 'em. It's prediction time for 2023, and we're not messing around this year. That's why we brought on J.T. O’Donnell, AKA "Nostro'Donell," Founder & CEO at Work It Daily to share prediction duty with the boys. Hey, a female perspective is a good thing, trust us. In addition to making 2023 predictions, we go over what we got right and wrong in 2022. As usual, LinkedIn, Indeed, Monster, iCIMS, Greenhouse, Web3 and much more get highlighted. And we may or may not have been drinking on this episode, not that that's a bad thing. Cheers!
1/13/202358 minutes, 20 seconds
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Shredded: Recruitics, gigaroo, Howdy, Inbenta, Agency WorX & More

The Shred is a weekly roundup of who’s raised funds, who’s been acquired and who’s on the move in the world of recruitment. The Shred is brought to you by Recruitology.
1/12/20235 minutes, 17 seconds
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StepStone is Stepping Out

Boy, turn your back on Europe for one second over the holidays and Axel Springer announces Stepstone is going IPO. Europe never sleeps when it comes to employment, indeed. What's more? How about a rumored billion Euro acquisition of a staffing company, Russia posting jobs for trench diggers in Ukraine and Pornhub's yearend Most Popular Searches, featuring the naughty habits of European countries from Spain to Finland. Find out what pegging, and hentai are. Sorry (and you're welcome)! Oh yeah, and the date for House of HR's annual conference in Amsterdam gets revealed.
1/11/202336 minutes, 8 seconds
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No Registration Needed w/ Bas van de Haterd

Let's be honest. Your career site probably sucks. But there's little data out there to show you exactly HOW MUCH it sucks. That's why we wanted to have a chat with Bas van de Haterd, an independent consultant and entrepreneur based in The Netherlands, while we hangout at UNLEASH in Paris recently. For the last 10 years Bas has run a major piece of research that audits the career sites of the largest 500 Dutch employers and he has a huge amount of data to share, including how to audit a career site, what social media sites perform best and how to best build an employer brand. If you have a career website - and you know you do - then this interview is a must-listen.
1/9/202314 minutes, 14 seconds
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New CEOs at Workday, Snagajob; Indeed's Sneaky New TOS

A new year always brings new promise. For three companies in the employment space, it also means a new CEO. For Indeed, it means a new Terms of Service wrought with unpleasant surprises for those not paying attention. It also means new and interesting ways to quit your job, as Walmart recently found out. With Chad still getting his holiday hangover under control, Cheese is joined by industry veteran Sarah White, CEO at Aspect43, to help make sense of everything going on in the world of recruitment for the first week of 2023.
1/6/20231 hour, 4 minutes, 53 seconds
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Shredded: BetterPlace, Workday, Sterling Check, Socrates, Atreus, Ingenovis Health & More

The Shred is a weekly roundup of who’s raised funds, who’s been acquired and who’s on the move in the world of recruitment. The Shred is brought to you by Recruitology.
1/5/20235 minutes, 21 seconds
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Your Clone is Ready w/ Natalie Monbiot

We get it. Tech is moving fast. From chatbots and conversational A.I. to automated video recruiting to the metaverse and more, it's exhausting to keep up. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but it's about to get a little more complicated. Meet Hour One, a company specializing in the development of virtual humans for use in professional video communications, including human resources. The company's head of strategy, Natalie Monbiot, joins Chad & Cheese for a wide array of questions, including Why waste your time on HR? Give your brain a good stretch, and let's do this.
1/4/202329 minutes, 49 seconds
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2022's Top 3

The year is almost over, so the boys are taking a second to nurse their holiday hangovers and reminisce about their favorite episodes from 2022. Included are shows featuring everything from Indeed to witchcraft to TikTok to killing Madonna and much, much more.
12/30/202227 minutes, 30 seconds
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Naughty and Nice 2022

What's a holiday season without the boys giving their top picks for naughtiest and nicest stories, characters, and commentary from the year that was 2022? Hot garbage, that's what! Featured are Slack, LinkedIn, pay transparency, Indeed, and (of course) OnlyFans. The boys also give their picks for most binge-worthy content from music to podcasts to movies and more. Enjoy ... and don't shoot your eye out!
12/23/202235 minutes, 26 seconds
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Shredded: retrain.ai, Jaid, Keith Forshew, Grata, EsquireX & More

The Shred is a weekly roundup of who’s raised funds, who’s been acquired and who’s on the move in the world of recruitment. The Shred is brought to you by Recruitology.
12/22/20225 minutes, 53 seconds
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Best and Worst - Holiday Show

Maybe you've noticed that we're on the doorstep of another holiday season. If not, what's wrong with ya', ya' filthy animal? As such, The Chad & Cheese Podcast Does Recruitment Marketing, featuring Julie Calli, President at RecruitmentMarketing.com, dives into the movies and songs that make the season so special (or a nightmare, in this case). Specifically, the gang shares their favorite and least favorite flicks and tunes. Hallelujah! Where's the Tylenol?
12/21/202226 minutes
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The Pay Equity Fix w/ Zev Eigen

Think empowering organizations to solve the gender and racial pay gap, cutting costly unwanted attrition, reducing bias in employment decisions, and improving true engagement and collaboration was something you couldn't quantify? Think again. That's why Chad & Cheese grabbed Syndio's CEO and Chief Data Scientist, Zev Eigen, while at UNLEASH in Paris to dive into the topic of pay transparency. The technology around the issue being developed is fascinating, making this a must-listen. ICYMI listen to our Pay with Equity episode with Maria Colacurcio.
12/19/202227 minutes, 33 seconds
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Facebook Exits Job Board Biz

Unicorn alert! It's been awhile since a new unicorn has come on the scene, so it's refreshing to see Beamery enter unicorn territory as we close out 2022. Should the ATS market be worried? We discuss. Facebook, which entered the jobs space in 2017, finally calls it quits. We discuss what could be next for the social media giant. Then it's time for some Who'd ya' rather? with Kadence and Outdefine. Afterward, we discuss Side Hustle Nation, highlighting a recent survey from Upwork, and the boys saved the naughtiest for last with "Porn Cop." You're welcome.
12/16/202246 minutes, 47 seconds
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Shredded: Beamery, PepTalk, Teamed, Outdefine, Kadence, Deloitte & More

The Shred is a weekly roundup of who’s raised funds, who’s been acquired and who’s on the move in the world of recruitment. The Shred is brought to you by Recruitology.
12/15/20227 minutes, 1 second
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Home Depot Cracks the Code

What do Home Depot, New York City, and LinkedIn have in common? They're all topics of discussion on this episode of The Chad & Cheese Podcast Does Recruitment Marketing with Julie Calli, President at RecruitmentMarketing.com. Specifically, Home Depot has cracked the code (maybe) on how to develop more laborers while increasing the number of loyal customers to their business, New York City is putting employers' feet to the fire when it comes to using A.I. in recruitment and LinkedIn has published it's Global Talent Trends report. We dig into each accordingly. Enjoy.
12/14/202246 minutes, 43 seconds
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Firing Squad: Cliquify's Amit Parmar

Share, share, share! Everyone's sharing everything on social media. Employers and recruiters who are sharing, however, aren't really doing it right most of the time. That's why Cliquify was founded. Think of them as "Canva for Recruiting." Amit Parmar, CEO at Cliquify joins the boys to pitch his company, and its concept, on Firing Squad. Are employers ready to embrace The Share? Does he make it out alive? Gotta listen to find out.
12/12/202238 minutes, 30 seconds
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LinkedIn, The Innovation Killer

Our robotic overlords are closer to running all this shit than you think. Have you heard of OpenAI and ChatGPT? If not, Chad & Cheese are here for an introductory lesson. To say it might change writing job descriptions, resumes, and interviewing forever is an understatement. Yeah, really. Then it's time for a little Who'd Ya' Rather with Allwork and Hunters Club (no, not the Polo knock-off from the '80s) and a little good-cop / bad-cop with LinkedIn and ending with a roundup of the good, the bad, and the ugly on the current state of global corporations. Ho-ho-holy hell it's a great episode of HR's Most Dangerous Podcast. God bless us, everyone.
12/9/202246 minutes, 29 seconds
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Shredded: Hunt Club, AllWork, Melon, Popwork, Snap Health & More

The Shred is a weekly roundup of who’s raised funds, who’s been acquired and who’s on the move in the world of recruitment. The Shred is brought to you by Recruitology.
12/8/20225 minutes, 28 seconds
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Leapsome, Coming to America

"Coming to America" isn't just a great Eddie Murphy movie from the '80s. It's also the rallying cry for many European companies looking to grow their bottom lines in the world's biggest economy. Enter Leapsome out of Germany who is the latest industry player to make their way across the Atlantic, opening up and promising to hire well over 50 people in New York City this year alone. As you expect, there's very little agreement with the move being a good one or not. Then the boys play a little Buy-or-Sell with iFeel, Vektor and Surfboard. (Spoiler alert: There's almost no agreement by anyone.) Closing the show is a discussion on a recent court decision out of France that ruled companies can't fire their workers for failing to be sufficiently "fun." Well, that's no fun! This episode, however? Loaded with fun! Enjoy!
12/7/202236 minutes, 54 seconds
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Amazon Recruiting Deja Vu?

Chad & Cheese are reunited after a couple weeks apart, and it feels so good. (Side note: If you've been waiting for the episode with a Duncan Sheik reference, well it's your lucky day.) Aside from that, it's a show filled with cash-money, layoffs, robots and Big Macs. What could possibly be more fulfilling? Specifically, the boys are talking about Sapia.ai, WorkJam, and Job.com getting new funding, then jumping to Amazon replacing their recruiting teams with bots, tech layoffs galore and what it means for the recruiting industry. Next up: Firing people via email in the middle of the night right before Thanksgiving, a McDonald's Gold Card offering food for life, Pickle, Nuro and so much more. Enjoy.
12/2/202245 minutes, 34 seconds
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Shredded: Job.com, Piñata, Surfboard, Cognizant, Sapia.ai, Simbel & More

The Shred is a weekly roundup of who’s raised funds, who’s been acquired and who’s on the move in the world of recruitment. The Shred is brought to you by Recruitology.
12/1/20226 minutes, 26 seconds
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Fuel Your Workforce w/ Jo Mills

Everyone is talkin' internal talent mobility and workforce agility these days ... and for good reason. Empowering your current talent pool to fill the opportunities of the future is an incredibly powerful tool for blowing up the bottom line. That's why we had Jo Mills, Chief Experience Officer at Fuel50, to help us make sense of the topic and explore ways companies can take better advantage of this exceptional opportunity. If you're looking to make the most out of your current workforce - and who isn't? - this interview from UNLEASH in Paris is a must-listen.
11/30/202214 minutes, 17 seconds
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Shredded: WorkJam, Fearless+, Vektor, Pickle, HireQuest & More

The Shred is a weekly roundup of who’s raised funds, who’s been acquired and who’s on the move in the world of recruitment. The Shred is brought to you by Recruitology.
11/28/20225 minutes, 8 seconds
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Jive Turkeys Featuring Indeed, ZipRecruiter, Wells Fargo & More

If last week's show was lactose free, this week is an extra cheese edition of Chad & Cheese, because Chad is away in merry ol' England and Cheese is running the show. Anyway, this week is Thanksgiving in America, which means we highlight the year's biggest jive turkeys. Industry veteran Jonathan Duarte of GoHire helps break down some turkeys too. We'll leave it up to you as to which "turkey" gobbles the loudest. Even Chad weighs in from London. Turkeys in London? Oh yeah, turkeys are everywhere. Enjoy and don't hog all the stuffing, damn it!
11/25/202259 minutes, 25 seconds
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Globalizing Your Employer Brand w/ Oana Iordachescu

Hiring globally is all the rage, thanks to a pandemic that supported the growth of an anywhere workforce. To compliment this growth, many organizations are looking to grow their footprint of products and services all over the world. That's why we brought Oana Iordachescu, Head of Talent Acquisition, Technology and Analytics at Wayfair (you've got just what I need!) on the pod while hangin' out at UNLEASH in Paris this past Oct. Turns out, creating large technology teams when no consumer or employer brand exists in new markets is no easy task. But don't worry, we got you. Well, technically, Oana's got you, but you know what we mean.
11/23/202218 minutes, 54 seconds
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Buy, Transition, and Grow w/ Gerard Mulder

It’s been a year since Textkernel acquired Sovren, creating a Wonder Twin-style deal that brought the two most well-known resume parsing solutions together. So what better time to catch-up with Textkernel CEO Gerard Mulder to see how things are going while we were in-person at UNLEASH in Paris in October. Lots going on, a lot of growth globally, and maybe even a scoop or two. Enjoy this frank conversation with a Chad & Cheese longtime sponsor. 
11/21/202219 minutes, 55 seconds
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Will iCIMS Give Us "The Bird"?

This week on a lactose-free Chad and Cheese podcast we have questions... Luckily, tech and product stud Adam Godson joins us to answer questions like... Will The Miami Heat Bang and Blame? Will iCIMS finally give us The Bird? Can robots be taxed? Will Jeff Bezos be able to keep his super yacht with all of the Amazon layoffs? Most important of all, is the age of social media end? Man, I hope not, what the hell would Joel do without big booty Latinas and bug fights?  Enjoy!
11/18/202245 minutes, 42 seconds
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Shredded: Keka, Adway, Drive My Way, Apploi, Speakfully, Woven, Paiger & More

The Shred is a weekly roundup of who’s raised funds, who’s been acquired and who’s on the move in the world of recruitment. The Shred is brought to you by Recruitology.
11/17/20225 minutes, 31 seconds
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Euro Job Site Evolution

Sometimes Chad & Cheese get so far up their own asses, it pays to take a step back and look at the big picture. Luckily, there's no better place to take a deep breath and ponder than Europe, which is why the boys look at the job board landscape across Europe. Inspired by an article from show favorite Geert-Jan Waasdorp entitled “Why the European job board market is on the verge of a major transition,” we dig into the rise of Indeed across Europe, programmatic becoming more and more popular, the gig economy gaining influence and even Web3's increasing impact on employment. It's a lot to digest, so a little Buy-or-Sell is in order to relax and let off steam. This episode, CloudPay, Job Protocol and EarnHire get put under the microscope. Lastly, we end with Lieven's take on European success-story and news item Beekeeper's recent raise.
11/16/202247 minutes, 37 seconds
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VR Recruiting with Heather Jackson

Turn down the lights and turn up the Marvin Gaye, because we're talking about VR in recruiting on this episode. Turns out, there's a really cool organization called VisionThree that's raising $80 million to advance virtual reality in schools and partnering with corporations and local governments to increase the level of talent in the workforce. Heather Jackson, chief revenue officer at VisionThree breaks it all down for us. Spoiler alert: It's all Mark Zuckerberg's fault. 
11/14/202235 minutes, 38 seconds
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LinkedIn Plays King Kong

Who doesn't love a good underdog story? LinkedIn, apparently. It's starting to look like King Kong has finally won its legal battle with spunky start-up HiQ Labs, which we cover this week. Moving from 800-lb. gorillas to tiny bees, Beekeeper has raised $50M to grab a huge chunk of the mobile workforce management market. What's more? New York City's pay transparency law is off to a rocky start, buy-or-sell with 5MINS, WorkTorch and Sparkplug, and those crazy Swedes at Tengai are back, so cue the ABBA!
11/11/202248 minutes, 45 seconds
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Shredded: Beekeeper, WorkTorch, SparkPlug, 5Mins, UKG, Groove, HirePower, AMS & More

The Shred is a weekly roundup of who’s raised funds, who’s been acquired and who’s on the move in the world of recruitment. The Shred is brought to you by Recruitology.
11/10/20227 minutes, 9 seconds
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Future Jerks by Indeed

Ya' know how mobile developers have to build for two distinctly different platforms iOS and Android? Well, you'd better get ready for strategizing and building for Indeed ... and then everyone else. That's the vision Indeed laid out for attendees at their recent annual meeting, and RecruitmentMarketing.com's Julie Calli is here to lay out all the details from the event. If you use Indeed, it's a must-listen and a nice alternative voice to what Indeed is doing from what Chad & Cheese are droppin' on the topics of CPA, RPO, Flex, Hire, and more from Indeed. And if that's not enough, the gang dives into a new advertising option from LinkedIn that should not only get the attention of B2B marketers everywhere but also the attention of savvy employers. We even throw a little Elon and Kanye in there for some additional employer brand commentary. 
11/9/202241 minutes, 47 seconds
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Firing Squad: SkillGigs' Brad Hill

eBay did it with Flea Markets, Netflix to Blockbuster, but can the old stodgy multi-trillion-dollar staffing industry be changed overnight? Brad Hill, President of Digital at SkillGigs is betting on it, but will he and SkillGigs have what it takes to get past the Firing Squad? You've gotta listen to find out.
11/7/202237 minutes, 28 seconds
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Dump Monster, Add Qwick-y

Love a good Qwick-y? Then this episode is for you. That is, restaurant staffing platform Qwick landed a $40 million round to take on the staffing woes of restaurants in the U.S. Not quite as exciting, the boys move on to AtlasJobs, which might make you long for 2009 (or 1999) all over again. Lastly, PaintJet takes aim at the $175 billion painting industry by taking people out of the equation and filling that void with a big-ass painting robot. Welcome to the metaverse, Dorothy! Plus, it's a double-LinkedIn shoutout session and the boys introduce a segment called "Slipping It In." Yeah, what could go wrong with that one?
11/4/202236 minutes, 2 seconds
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Shredded: AtlasJobs, Qwick, HireBetter, Teleperformance, Diverse Recruiting Experts & More

The Shred is a weekly roundup of who’s raised funds, who’s been acquired and who’s on the move in the world of recruitment. The Shred is brought to you by Recruitology.
11/3/20225 minutes, 24 seconds
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Can Indeed Force PPA in Europe?

Think unicorns only roam the plains of America? Well, think again. This week, the boys discuss Factorial, Europe’s newest workforce startup to hit $1 billion in value. Then it’s time to break down some unicorn wannabes with buy-or-sell, covering Easop, Enate, and Jomigo. Rounding out this episode is looking at Indeed’s new PPA and its impact on the European market. Oh, and of course, we must chat some Elon and Twitter. 
11/2/202246 minutes, 21 seconds
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Need Indeed? Indeed, You Don't w/ Jim Durbin

To say Indeed has made changes this year would be a gross understatement. Here's a roundup: 1) changes to bid optimizer, 2) changes to their resume reward system 3) alterations to Geo and Title expansions And to say some people are unhappy with the changes is also an understatement. That's why we invited Jim Durbin, the man Indeed calls "The Indeed Whisperer" to the podcast to get to the bottom of what's going on at the world's most popular job site.
10/31/202233 minutes, 29 seconds
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iCIMS Treats, Indeed Tricks

The wait is over! It's our Halloween show, full of dad jokes and bad soundbites. You're welcome. We even get to some news, covering the iCIMS acquisition, and Indeed's pivot to PPA, Voilà! coming to America and Oracle's new Booster. Also, Bloomberg says self-driving cars are headed for a fatal crash, while Bloomberg then publishes articles about Waymo coming to Los Angeles and Intel's Mobileye going IPO. Oh, Bloomberg, such a two-faced. Unlike the two faces, you really love: Chad & Cheese, the podcast that 'ghosts' its fans on Halloween week. 
10/28/202247 minutes, 58 seconds
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Shredded: iCIMS, Voilà!, Boostrs, ingenium, Visier, SkillSurvey & More

The Shred is a weekly roundup of who’s raised funds, who’s been acquired and who’s on the move in the world of recruitment. The Shred is brought to you by Recruitology.
10/27/20225 minutes, 50 seconds
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UNLEASH the FOMO w/ Marc Coleman

If you attended UNLEASH in Paris earlier this month, you know what a must-attend event it is. If you didn’t attend, well, we’d better see you there next year. Marc Coleman, the man behind the conference, sat down with Chad & Cheese for a rundown of the highlights, as well as preview the show in Vegas next spring. 
10/26/202222 minutes, 28 seconds
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Catching the VONQ w/ Arno Schäfer

We joke about VONQ sounding like an STD our "roommate" caught in college, as well as saying their executive teams look like the bad guys from the Bruce Willis classic Die Hard, but truth be told, they're a company making waves in the employment space. That's why we recently sat down with CEO Arno Schäfer to dig into what's going on at the company. Turns out they're doing some really interesting things, like private labeling their tech so applicant tracking systems can make even more money. What a world, amirite!?!?! Enjoy this one, live from UNLEASHworld in Paris.
10/24/202225 minutes, 12 seconds
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Amazon Ain't FairyGodBoss of Me

After a weeklong hiatus, thanks to a little trek to Unleash in Paris, the boys are back and badder than ever. On this episode, they dissect the recent acquisition of Paycor and Talenya, the investment in Ten Thousand Coffees - which has nothing to do with actual coffee, by the way - and then play a little thumbs-up / thumbs-down with The Muse acquiring Fairygodboss, CareerBeacon buying Ruutly (a Canadian double-double, Tim Hortons-style), Glassdoor filters and TaTiO grabbin' that paper. Amazon is in a pickle again and Robot Baristas take on San Francisco (boycott THIS! workers).
10/21/202251 minutes, 28 seconds
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Shredded: Talenya, Ten Thousand Coffees, Beeline, Utmost, Paycor, CareerBeacon & More

The Shred is a weekly roundup of who’s raised funds, who’s been acquired and who’s on the move in the world of recruitment. The Shred is brought to you by Recruitology.
10/20/20226 minutes, 1 second
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Round Peg, Square Cho w/ Richard Cho

How often do you hear an interview with a recruiter who’s done time at Cisco, Facebook, Docusign, eBay, Robinhood and now Gem? Well, today’s your lucky day. Chad & Cheese has a chat with Richard Cho, Chief Recruiting Officer at Gem to talk about a wide variety of challenges around being a CRO, like recognizing that the bottom-line rules all, navigating the Chief People Officer and managing a down economy. We even veer off course down Memory Lane once or twice. Enjoy. 
10/19/202231 minutes, 31 seconds
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Firing Squad: Hireproof's Nick Barth

An American and a Finn meetup on Reddit and a startup is born. Finland-based Hireproof promises to make anyone a world-class interviewer just by clicking a link. Really? Yeah, really. Cofounder Nick Barth joins Chad & Cheese for a lively episode of Firing Squad, pitching his product that promises "delight," "happiness" and "less bias" in the hiring process. Is Hireproof primed to set the world on fire, or is it a wet blanket. Gotta listen.
10/17/202230 minutes, 53 seconds
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UNLEASH Wrap & AI Hiring Regulations

Live from Paris at UNLEASH World, the boys are on stage with Keith Sonderling, EEOC Commissioner & Oana Iordachescu Associate Director, Talent Acquisition - Technology Europe/Asia at Wayfair Deutschland. And they’re talkin’ A.I. issues in hiring, focused on Europe. We’re always keeping you away from land mines, no matter the continent. What’s more? How about a special show summary with fellow podcaster Matt “That British Guy” Alder? You’re welcome. 
10/14/202251 minutes, 21 seconds
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Shredded: Fairygodboss, The Muse, Enate, Humaans, Jomigo, Revelio & More

The Shred is a weekly roundup of who’s raised funds, who’s been acquired and who’s on the move in the world of recruitment. The Shred is brought to you by Recruitology.
10/13/20225 minutes, 19 seconds
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World Domination, Okay HR Podcast Domination

The Chad and Cheese Podcast has already taken the world by storm. What's next?
10/12/20222 minutes, 23 seconds
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Stop Pinkwashing Already

Over 8 million workers in the U.S. identify as LGBT. Spoiler alert: That's a lot! Yet, corporate America isn't very hospitable to this influential demo when it comes to work. In fact, a recent UCLA survey found 50 percent of LGBT employees are not 'out' to their supervisors, and 34 percent of LGBT have left their job due to treatment by their employers. What's the problem? Never fear, we have answers. That's why we invited Sara Grossman, founder & CEO of CODE-MKTG, and Sabrina Kent, EVP of programs and external affairs for the National LGBT Chamber of Commerce (NGLCC) to come on the pod and set us straight. Did we learn a lot? You bet we did. And you will too.
10/10/202238 minutes, 58 seconds
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Unicorn Falling?

Recording from downtown Nashville and nursing a hangover, the boys cover a plethora of topics, including iCIMS settling a legal battle, layoffs and “layoffs” at Indeed and Eightfold, SHRM playing kingmaker with vendors and the World’s Worst CEO. Raising money this week is Erin, Grayscale, and Workstream. Pass the Hot Chicken!
10/7/202239 minutes, 32 seconds
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Shredded: Salary.com, SHRM, Erin, Workstream, ZenHR, Grayscale, Rely.io, Comprehensive & More

The Shred is a weekly roundup of who’s raised funds, who’s been acquired and who’s on the move in the world of recruitment. The Shred is brought to you by Recruitology.
10/6/20228 minutes, 25 seconds
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VR, Virtual Dumping, and a Foursome

If you were building a perfect podcast episode, what ingredients would you include? An acquisition? Some VR? And a side of offshoring? Well, today’s your lucky day, because Lieven and the boys cover all that and much more on The Chad & Cheese Podcast Does Europe. 
10/5/202247 minutes, 35 seconds
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TikTok is Glassdoor Gone Wild

The winds of change isn’t just a killer Scorpions' tune from the ‘80s. It also defines recruitment marketing in 2022. Pay transparency is trending, TikTok is on the top of every employers’ lips and CEOs actually stand for something … both good and bad, depending on how you view the world. Jump on and enjoy the ride, as Julie Calli, President at RecruitmentMarketing.com President joins Chad & Cheese to dive into what’s hot. 
10/3/202241 minutes, 26 seconds
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Indeed's Walk of Shame

No need to get into specifics, but we all know about the walk of shame. Turns out, corporations aren't immune to taking the proverbial shuffle home, still wearing last night's now-wrinkled clothes. Just ask Indeed, who's become Google's latest corporate conquest. Don't worry, it'll make sense, just have a listen. Also, this week, Calendly gets in the employment game, the nursing shortage is real (but we have solutions) and Walmart tries to hypnotize the metaverse-lovin' youth of America (spoiler alert: it doesn't go well). Then it's time for a little Buy-or-Sell with TurboHire, Hofy, and Remofirst. You're welcome.
9/30/202250 minutes, 24 seconds
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Shredded: CV-Library, Hofy, TurboHire, Remofirst, Calendly, Wellable, Prelude & More

The Shred is a weekly roundup of who’s raised funds, who’s been acquired and who’s on the move in the world of recruitment. The Shred is brought to you by Recruitology.
9/29/20227 minutes, 27 seconds
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Female Founding, Google Accelerating, and Whiskey!

The boys recently held a private event at HR Tech for around 40 people with ThisWay founder and CEO Angela Hood. Luckily for you, the mics were on, so we caught the whole conversation, just for you. We discuss what happens when you become a Google accelerated startup, what unbiased recruiting really looks like, the dos and don'ts of crowdfunding, and much more. It's like you're a fly on the wall. Enjoy.
9/28/202244 minutes, 29 seconds
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DEI Death Zone w/ Dr. T

DEI is failing. That's the opinion of Dr. Tiffany Brandreth, and that's also why we had to bring her on the podcast. Among the topics Chad & Cheese discuss with "Dr. T" include 1) why leaders are simultaneously advocating and oppressing DEI efforts, 2) how oppressive decisions have no consequence and are concealed through visible DEI activities, and 3) what the five unconscious biases are leading DEI yet driving it into the "death zone." What's the "death zone"? Gotta listen. It's a no-holds, honest take on the state of DEI in Corporate America.
9/26/202236 minutes, 1 second
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LinkedIn, Don't Fear The Polywork

The HR Tech Conference hangover is cured and it's back to business. Fortunately for you, there's a lot of cover. Namely, big funding for Polywork, Atlas, The Muse gets lots of of attention, followed by some Buy-or-Sell with Gig and Take, Knoetic and Ashby. Spoiler alert: Selling, lots and lots of selling! Oh, and robots ... gotta talk about robots. 
9/23/202257 minutes, 3 seconds
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Shredded: Polywork, The Muse, Ashby, MVP Match, Atlas, Knoetic, Gig and Take & More

The Shred is a weekly roundup of who’s raised funds, who’s been acquired and who’s on the move in the world of recruitment. The Shred is brought to you by Recruitology.
9/22/20227 minutes, 50 seconds
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EU Wages and The Queen

Believe it or not, minimum wage debate is not exclusive to the U.S. Europe, it turns out, has their own set of issues, so it's no surprise European Union lawmakers have adopted new legislation aimed at guaranteeing “decent” minimum wages for all workers across the 27-nation bloc. The boys discuss and come up with a variety of angles to view the challenges faced by the EU. Then it's Buy-or-Sell with Benivo, MVP Match and GoJob (spoiler alert: things get pretty ugly). And how could be not talk about the queen the week following her passing ... we just do it in a way only The Chad & Cheese Podcast can.
9/21/202237 minutes, 57 seconds
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Firing Squad: Confirm's Josh Merrill

Ever feel like your performance reviews are stuck in the 1940s? Well, you're not alone, but it's probably time to join the party and jump into the 21st Century. That's why we invited Confirm.com on Firing Squad. This company, led by CEO Josh Merrill, the former CPO at Carta, thinks they have the answer to give employee review software a big refresh. Blame the Millennials. And yeah, they have some well-funded competitors that might have something to say about their success. Don't worry, we'll get into that. Can they pull it off? Gotta listen to find out.
9/17/202234 minutes, 24 seconds
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Eightfold's Ferrari Complex

Viva Las Vegas! The boys are in Sin City this week at the HR Tech Conference, so there’s a lot to unpack. First, it’s shoutouts galore - featuring HireEZ, ThisWay, FactoryFix, Dice, and many more - as the world gets back to in-person events. Then it’s time to dissect news of the week, highlighting Reejig and Joonko raising money while Paychex gives new meaning to the word innovation … NOT! Now, keep it quiet while we nurse these hangovers!
9/16/202238 minutes, 23 seconds
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Shredded: Reejig, Joonko, Benivo, Direct Recruiters, Careers in Nonprofits & More

The Shred is a weekly roundup of who’s raised funds, who’s been acquired and who’s on the move in the world of recruitment. The Shred is brought to you by Recruitology.
9/15/20225 minutes, 58 seconds
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Employment Brand Superstar 101

If you want to learn how to be an exceptional recruitment marketer and employment brand superstar, it might help to listen to a pro at a company that knows a little bit about marketing. That's why we invited Ashlee Gerow, Senior Manager, Employer Brand at HubSpot, to the podcast. From implementing diversity to dicing-up data to creating rich content and much, much more, this Cult Brand series gives hosts Julie Calli, president at RecruitmentMarketing.com, and Chad & Cheese plenty to talk about with their guest. 
9/14/202237 minutes, 15 seconds
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European Talent Intelligence 2022

Europe is largely an aging, over-regulated, polarized economy with immigration challenges and a war on its doorstep. That's the bad news. Now to the good news, as told by Intelligence Group's CEO and founder Geert-Jan Waasdorp: The Old World is a more equitable, tech-driven, dynamic economy that's on solid footing and filled with interesting startups. But can he sell that rosy vision to Chad & Cheese? You need to listen to find out.
9/12/202233 minutes, 5 seconds
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ZipRecruiter & JobAdder Screw-Ups

Maybe they're just well-rested from the Labor Day weekend, or maybe they're just antsy with HR Tech in Vegas next week, but the boys are pretty salty this week. After covering the big news of the week: Sense acquiring Skillate, the move-in for the kill, covering news out of ZipRecruiter, Jobadder, and California. It's all very fantastic! But never fear, we release some stress from the campus of Cannabis Community College. All's well that ends well. See you in Vegas!
9/9/202245 minutes, 38 seconds
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Shredded: Sense, Skillate, HumanQ, Learnsoft, S.i. Systems & More

The Shred is a weekly roundup of who’s raised funds, who’s been acquired and who’s on the move in the world of recruitment. The Shred is brought to you by Recruitology.
9/8/20225 minutes, 4 seconds
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Europe Reigns & Drains

House of HR? More like House Party of HR! Big announcement this week, as our buddies from Belgium announce the acquisition of four - yes, FOUR - businesses, including France's StaffMe and Germany's LD Personalvermittlung GmbH. Don't worry, we'll explain everything. If that's not enough, the boys play Buy-or-Sell, weighing in on startups deskbird, Catch, and nPloy. Spoiler alert: Lots of sell ratings. Ending the podcast is a salute to Poland and their "chance of a lifetime," compliments of Ukraine. Shoutouts include a dash of Irish gold, In Truss We Trust (Maybe), and wait, there goes my hero!
9/7/202240 minutes, 37 seconds
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Firing Squad: Sense's Pankaj Jindal

The battle to be the Swiss Army Knife for all things hiring is real. While many vendors may serve as your pocket scissors, can opener or toothpick, few can promise every feature while also delivering the goods. Sense (www.sensehq.com) claims to be that Swiss Army Knife, providing all things from the top of the funnel to the bottom. Do they deliver on that promise? You'll just have to listen, now won't you?
9/5/202232 minutes, 25 seconds
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SmartRecruiters: Times Are Changin'

It's a jungle out there. Inflation is still running rampant while unemployment remains historically low. Some companies are saying get back to the office, while some are saying never come back again. And some businesses in our space are seeing incredible carnage, while others are riding high. The real sign of the apocalypse though? LinkedIn thinks its solving the inclusion problem. It's enough to wish you had free beer. Mass hysteria, buy-or-sell, LinkedIn-sanity and free booze. You're welcome!
9/2/202244 minutes, 43 seconds
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Shredded: Glints, Kula Deskbird, Husys, Ceresa, People2.0, Dysis, M Genio & More

The Shred is a weekly roundup of who’s raised funds, who’s been acquired and who’s on the move in the world of recruitment. The Shred is brought to you by Recruitology.
9/1/20227 minutes, 57 seconds
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Upgraded Robot-Proof Recruiter

Katrina Collier, author of "The Robot-Proof Recruiter" is one of our favorite guests to have on. Aside from being a proud Gen X’er and sharing a birthday with Chad (same year and everything), she is a well-loved global keynote speaker, and host of The Hiring Partner Perspective (Unedited) podcast. We chatted with her when the 1st Edition of the book came out, pre-pandemic, but the 2nd edition is just as appetizing. In it, Katrina teaches companies how to recruit without an existing online presence, and she covers the unexpected impact of the COVID-19 pandemic on recruiting in detail. Oh yeah, and there are plenty of new case studies to discuss. Enjoy.
8/31/202222 minutes, 23 seconds
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Should You Repel Candidates?

The U.S. Marines have made a career out of recruiting based on letting 18-year-olds know how tough and challenging becoming a Marine actually is. It's a concept that can also work for businesses of all sizes. That's why we invited Charlotte Marshall, director, global employer brand & recruitment marketing expert & best selling author of “Give and Get Employer Branding Repel the Many and Compel the Few with Impact, Purpose and Belonging” on the podcast. In it, Charlotte reveals why the most effective employer brands don’t attract candidates; they repel them. This episode is part of our Cult Brand series, sponsored by RecruitmentMarketing.com and the boys are joined by Julie Calli.
8/29/202237 minutes, 1 second
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RUMOR ALERT - SmartRecruiters & Snagajob

It's The Shred a mini-Chad and Cheese bite of Breaking News -- This is Chad Sowash This Shred entails two big moves from two big brands.  RUMOR ALERT #1 -- SmartRecruiters c-level cuts RUMOR ALERT #2 -- Snagajob reduction
8/26/20223 minutes, 38 seconds
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iCIMS' New Sugar Mama

Quiet quitting, boomeranging and petitioning ... Oh my! This episode has it all. In addition to covering some of the hottest trends in work this week, the boys cover big news out of iCIMS and play some Buy-or-Sell with Sabanto, Growthspace, and Modern Loop (again). Plus, Lowe's latest news is a down-low, dirty shame, and Indeed gets into bed with TikTok. Your ears are already thanking you, aren't they?
8/26/202244 minutes, 50 seconds
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Shredded: Roleshare, GrowthSpace, Haystack, RecruitLab, Sabanto, ModernLoop & More

The Shred is a weekly roundup of who’s raised funds, who’s been acquired and who’s on the move in the world of recruitment. The Shred is brought to you by Recruitology.
8/25/20226 minutes, 56 seconds
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Personio vs. HiBob

Love a good ole fashioned unicorn cage match? How about some buy-or-sell with three of Europe’s hottest recruiting startups? This episode of The Chad & Cheese Podcast Dies Europe has all that, featuring HiBob, Personio, Haystack, RoleShare, and more. We even throw in chicken Big Macs, dancing PMs, and the state of healthcare recruiting vendors on the continent. Lieven and The Boys bring their A-Game to this one. Enjoy. 
8/24/202238 minutes, 47 seconds
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A Change in the World w/ Steve Pemberton

Steve Pemberton is Best Selling Author, Philanthropist, Acclaimed Speaker, and Senior Level Executive. He wasn't given a chance in the world; he proved them wrong. Steve's chance is now focused on change. In this interview we talk about the pace of change, the fluidity of change, scaling belief and purpose, the end state of remote work, the future of equity, who was responsible for getting companies through the pandemic, and more.  Steve was not given a chance in the world and now he's changing it. Enjoy!
8/22/202227 minutes, 35 seconds
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HiBob? More Like "Hi Unicorn!"

What recession? This week, we have two new unicorns and another on its way in HiBob, Incredible Health and 15Five. Needless to say, however, we're not particularly bullish on every one. What's more, Whole Foods says, "Get off my lawn," and Adam Neuman of WeWork fame goes full Svengali on his new startup, Flow, to the tune of $350 million for an idea that will allegedly take form sometime in 2023. What could possibly go wrong? Oh yeah, we even talk about LinkedIn's "crying CEO" that's blowing up the socials this week. You're welcome! Now go sign-up for a chance to win free stuff at www.chadcheese.com.
8/19/202243 minutes, 13 seconds
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Shredded: HiBob, Incredible Health, 15Five, SumTotal, Cornerstone OnDemand, Bacon & More

The Shred is a weekly roundup of who’s raised funds, who’s been acquired and who’s on the move in the world of recruitment. The Shred is brought to you by Recruitology.
8/18/20227 minutes, 51 seconds
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Chatbot Evolution w/ Sumit Gupta

Your life really isn't complete until you've gotten a complete breakdown of the past, present, and future of recruiting chatbots. That's why we asked PandoLogic CTO Sumit Gupta on the podcast to get a breakdown. Turns out, that chatbot may not be the correct label, considering job seekers have interviews with virtual Brad Pitt and Darth Vader to look forward to. Yeah, really. You gotta listen to this episode if you want a real taste of the future of recruiting. Or at least one company's vision of it.
8/17/202231 minutes, 26 seconds
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It's Not a Labor Shortage w/ Sean Behr

There is no labor shortage. At least that's the position taken by Sean Behr, CEO at Fountain, a solution for industries with high turnover. Nope. There's a SPEED shortage, instead. What the hell does that mean? The boys dig into his theses and tackle a wide variety of high frequency hiring issues plaguing so many companies these days in the process. A must-listen for employers having issues hiring truckers, nurses, restaurant staff, warehouse workers ... yeah, OK, pretty much all essential workers. 
8/15/202230 minutes, 46 seconds
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Entelo & Pymetrics Panic Sale?

Maybe we should have named this episode Three Acquisitions and a Vendor Moving to Crazy Town? Remember the '80s movie "Three Men and a Baby"? This episode could be called "Three Acquisitions and a Vendor Who's Lost Their Damned Mind!" Silkroad Technologies acquired Entelo, Harver bought pymetrics and Mitratech gobbled up TalentReef. Can you guess which acquisition we like? Gotta listen. Then we take a trip to Crazy Town, where old-timey job distribution service provider eQuest has made the mother of all pivots, and the boys can't quite make sense of it (but want a hit of whatever they're smoking'). Oh, and Home Depot ends the show with a bit of sanity and common sense. Enjoy! 
8/12/202243 minutes, 18 seconds
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Shredded: Harver, pymetrics, Entelo, SilkRoad Tech, Cera Care, TalentReef & More

The Shred is a weekly roundup of who’s raised funds, who’s been acquired and who’s on the move in the world of recruitment. The Shred is brought to you by Recruitology.
8/11/20225 minutes, 1 second
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London Calling

Europe is surging! Travel is way up, the cash is flowing and employers of all shapes and sizes are embracing the continent, in light of Covid being in the rearview mirror. Most notably, London is the world's hottest new destination for employers and innovative companies, while Spotify is giving us a blueprint for increased retention, greater diversity and salary equality. Why, exactly? Gotta listen. And if that wasn't enough, the boys sit down with Elke Moerenhout, a marketing manager at Jobat, one of the top job boards in Belgium, to chat about the importance of employer brand and how to harness it in the fight for top talent. 
8/10/202253 minutes, 5 seconds
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Storytime w/ Tim "Magic Man" Dineen

Make yourself comfortable, boys and girls, because it's story time. On this episode, the boys bring Tim Dineen, co-founder, and chief innovation officer at Recruitics on the show. For those who don't know Tim, he was also the search engine optimization brains at Indeed back in the 00s. It's fair to say Indeed wouldn't be Indeed without Tim, which is why we rev-up the "way back machine" and pull back the covers on the early days of Indeed, as well as what the future may hold. For those who aren't students of history, don't worry, we spend plenty of time talking about the current state of recruitment tech and the future. 
8/8/202227 minutes, 29 seconds
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Lever? I Hardly Know Her!

If Chad & Cheese ever opened a restaurant, this episode might give you an idea of the menu items. In addition to talking about the acquisition of Lever by Employ (Jobvite, JazzHR), layoffs at you favorite companies, and Tesla putting its ATS in the rearview mirror, food and beverage take center stage. Big news out of Taco Bell, Chik-fil-A, and your favorite beer distributors. Kinda job-related. Anyone else hungry? 
8/5/202241 minutes, 6 seconds
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Shredded: Lever, Ben, Vero, Korn Ferry, Accurate Background & More

The Shred is a weekly roundup of who’s raised funds, who’s been acquired and who’s on the move in the world of recruitment. The Shred is brought to you by Recruitology.
8/4/20226 minutes, 5 seconds
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Turing.com CEO talks Remote First

Don't believe the headlines. Hiring competent developers is still really, really challenging. One start-up that's helping solve the quandary for companies is Turing, who - by the way - has already raised $153 million to cure what ails employers. Jonathan Siddharth, CEO and founder at Turing, joins the boys to discuss what makes Turing different, how Upwork gets it wrong, and why pay transparency and equality are still such a hurdle.
8/3/202232 minutes, 17 seconds
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Glassdoor Cracks and Job.com Denies

If you love burritos, pizza and virtual reality - and who doesn't - then this episode's for you! Or should I say if you love automation, call centers and workforce training, this one's for you? Oh hell, you'll just have to listen if you're not following. What else? Job.com goes shopping and its CEO gets salty with the media. Glassdoor may not be as anonymous as it wants you to believe and we play a little Who'd Ya' Rather with HireArt and InternMatch. Now, put that in your Barbacoa Bowl and smoke it!
7/29/202247 minutes, 1 second
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Shredded: Job.com, InternMatch, HireArt, allwhere, CareerCurve, Kona and More

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