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Great Women in Compliance

English, Finance, 1 season, 235 episodes, 5 days, 11 hours, 42 minutes
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For a long time, compliance was perceived as a part of the larger legal world. Today, compliance is its own profession -- a place where people work tirelessly to make the world a better place, one where doing the right thing is the standard for everyone. There are a lot of amazing and inspirational women who have helped the compliance field develop into what it is today and women who are joining this field every day. They are leading the work on cutting-edge issues and breaking barriers for women. Join Mary Shirley and Lisa Fine as they talk with women in compliance who are making a difference. This podcast is part of the Compliance Podcast Network.
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Amy Hanan – ‘Relentless Curiosity’ in Life and Work

While marketing professionals typically operate “behind the curtain,” Amy Hanan is taking center stage these days. As a chief marketing officer for LRN, she’s recently been a keynote speaker at a headline session for a major compliance event and is traveling the globe leading roundtables that connect top compliance & ethics professionals with the latest research trends. Hanan’s career path has included the Associated Press (when the internet was in its infancy), along with B2B and legal marketing positions when marketing automation technology was brand new. Honing her professional skills – and her people skills – along the way, Hanan has blazed a trail in a niche where her passion for compliance and ethics serves her well. Listen in as she talks about the things she’s learned along the way.  Highlights: ·      How raising your hand can change the trajectory of your career ·      The value of “relentless curiosity” in both life and work  ·      Curating a leadership style ·      Learning from mistakes – and the power of exercise, tea & fuzzy socks Resources Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here.
7/17/202434 minutes, 56 seconds
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Erica Salmon Byrne: Building a Legacy of Ethical Value

In this episode of Great Women in Compliance, Hemma visits with Erica Salmon Byrne, Chief Strategy Officer and Executive Chair of Ethisphere. Having long admired Ethisphere for its commitment to advancing business integrity in a meaningful way, Hemma invites Erica to share how her organization backs that up with research, data from industry benchmarking and culture assessments, and the creation of a strong compliance community. Erica shares her ethics and compliance origin story and critical insights on building a legacy of ethical value and business integrity. Highlights include the compliance value creation story and how not to be merely a cost center, how to stay outcome-driven rather than activity-based, what we can learn from decades of data on measuring culture, the crucial role of managers in ethics and compliance, the meaning of an employee-centered approach and treating employees as tangible assets, and the power of community in compliance. Erica is the Chief Strategy Officer and Executive Chair for Ethisphere, the global leader in defining and advancing the standards of ethical business practices that fuel corporate character, marketplace trust, and business success. In this role, Ms. Salmon Byrne oversees product strategy and M&A initiatives for the company while advancing Ethisphere’s founding ethos—that businesses that focus on the long term, commit to doing business with integrity, and invest in their stakeholder communities will outperform their peers. Erica is also the Chair of the Business Ethics Leadership Alliance (BELA), where she works with the BELA community to advance dialogue, collaboration, and best practices around ethics and governance. Over her tenure at Ethisphere, Erica has held several roles, including overseeing Ethisphere’s products and solutions, including data-driven program assessments; The Sphere, which offers benchmarking against peers and best practices, along with expertise and related regulatory guidance; ethical culture assessments; and the World’s Most Ethical Companies. To learn more about Ethisphere’s work, visit www.ethisphere.com A prolific public speaker, Erica is known throughout the ethics and compliance industry as a leader, educator, and advocate for ESG, values-based leadership, and business integrity. In 2022, she was recognized as a Modern Governance 100 Leader by governance firm Diligent. Erica has been featured in the Wall Street Journal, The Washington Post, Fast Company, Forbes, SXSW, and various ethics and compliance publications and podcasts. You can join the LinkedIn podcast community. Join the Great Women in Compliance podcast community here. Resource: 2024 Ethical Culture Report: Closing the Speak Up Gap
7/10/20241 hour, 3 minutes, 15 seconds
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Back to School: Advanced Ethics and Compliance Studies

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance podcast on the Compliance Podcast Network, sponsored by Corporate Compliance Insights. One of the themes amongst Ethics and Compliance professionals is how we “fell into compliance.” Once that happens, how do we learn the skills we need? In this episode, Lisa and Sarah Hadden are talking about advanced compliance studies. Their guests are Barbara-Ann Boehler, Senior Director, Compliance & Ethics at Fordham Law and Cindy Marsh, who is a Senior Manager, Global Trade and Compliance at Victaulic and received her Masters in Studies of Law in Corporate Ethics and Compliance in 2022 from Fordham. Barbara talks about her experience leading the program, as well as being a faculty member, and how they put together and structure this program. Cindy enrolled at Fordham to grow her expertise from trade sanctions work into compliance and talks about her ongoing relationship with peers and how these are built. The group also talks about all of the other resources for compliance learning if an advanced degree program is not the right path, and how the ethics and compliance community has so many avenues for learning and networking. Cindy is also an experienced improv performer, and she also leads a program to bring improv to corporate settings. Lisa has just started to do improv, so that was an unexpected and shared part of the episode. Topics include: Different types of continuing education programs to learn ethics and compliance The benefits of getting an advanced compliance degree and the types of programs The community and network that can be built through compliance education programs The impact of continuing compliance education You can join in the LinkedIn podcast community Join the Great Women in Compliance podcast community here.
6/26/202429 minutes, 6 seconds
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GWIC and Everything Compliance

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance podcast on the Compliance Podcast Network, sponsored by Corporate Compliance Insights.  In today’s episode, we have a special episode, which is cross-posted with Everything Compliance, which we call Ladies Night: Exploring Compliance in All-Female Podcast Takeover. In this special Ladies Night edition of the Everything Compliance Podcast, guest host Christy Grant Hart is joined by notable women in compliance as guest panelists,  Karen Woody, Karen Moore, Lisa Fine, and Hema Lomax for an in-depth discussion. Topics covered include the complexities of Caremark duties and its recent interpretations, Boeing's ongoing compliance issues, the implications of the Mike Lynch acquittal on due diligence, and ways to enhance the effectiveness of compliance training. The episode wraps up with each guest sharing their rants or raves, offering insights and reflections on the state of compliance today. Highlights Include ·      Karen Woody on Caremark Duties Explained ·      Karen Moore on Boeing's Compliance Issues ·      Lisa Fine on  the Mike Lynch acquittal and HP's Acquisition of Autonomy ·      Hemma Lomax on Effective Compliance Training ·      Rants and Raves You can join in the LinkedIn podcast community Join the Great Women in Compliance podcast community here.
6/20/202458 minutes, 41 seconds
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Privacy and AI Compliance-A Principled Approach

In this episode of the Great Women in Compliance podcast, Hemma and Ellen host a roundtable with Hope Anderson, a partner in White & Case’s Data, Privacy & Cybersecurity Practice, and Jean Liu, Assistant General Counsel, Privacy, Safety, and Regulatory Affairs who joined Microsoft in 2023 as part of the Nuance Communications, Inc. acquisition.    Together, Hope and Jean have a wealth of experience advising on privacy, AI, and data governance compliance issues and they are well positioned to leverage this experience in the wake of a rapidly evolving regulatory landscape. Hemma and Ellen didn’t waste a minute mining these two experts for practical tips and recommendations for those of us looking to get smart quick and grapple with what seems like a behemoth task of keeping up with developments in the technology and the legislation, while at the same time, making sure we don’t get left behind in learning to leverage AI in our own functions. Join us for an engaging ride through the ups and downs of privacy and AI compliance, and be inspired as we were by the great opportunities to develop new and exciting use cases while mitigating risk and the chance to unlock the power of responsible and ethical AI for our businesses.  Key Highlights Getting up to speed with rapidly evolving regulatory landscape The role of AI principles vs policies and procedures Human Rights, Bias, and AI Keeping the “Human in the Loop” Thoughts on a US Federal AI or Privacy Law Leveraging AI for Ethics and Compliance Key resources and recommendations Resources Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here.
6/12/202434 minutes, 9 seconds
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Beth Colling – Common Sense and Compliance

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance podcast on the Compliance Podcast Network, sponsored by Corporate Compliance Insights. In this episode, Lisa speaks with Beth Colling, Senior Vice President and Chief Compliance Officer at CDM Smith. Beth joined organizations after they had to address a significant regulatory change or investigation, and she worked to operationalize and then maintain a compliance program. Lisa and Beth specifically talk about how, as issues inevitably arise, compliance officers will get the resources they need to make and implement changes, but over time, memories fade, and the attention and resources may diminish. Beth provides her insight on this. Beth uniquely evaluates her work and program by “firing herself” on Friday and re-hiring herself on Monday to examine it with new eyes. After the past several years, with the pandemic and hybrid work, this review became even more relevant. This leads to a discussion of “common sense,” not just within a compliance program but also in terms of personal responsibility and how employees rationalize bad behavior. One of Beth’s (and Lisa’s) childhood heroes was “Wonder Woman,” and Beth may be Wonder Woman. Outside her work, she coaches young adults to enjoy running, and by the end of 2024, she will have completed 5 of the 6 “World Marathon Majors.” You can join the LinkedIn podcast community. Join the Great Women in Compliance podcast community here.
6/5/202432 minutes, 31 seconds
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Building Great Mentor/Mentee Relationships

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance podcast on the Compliance Podcast Network, sponsored by Corporate Compliance Insights. In today’s episode, Lisa Fine and Ellen Hunt speak with Melanie Sponholz and Margarita Derelanko, Senior Director of Compliance, Ivy Rehab Network, about mentor/mentee relationships. The group discusses various aspects of mentoring, from choosing a mentor to building a relationship. They also discuss how this is a 2-way street and how mentors and mentees learn from one another. Mel and Margarita have an established mentoring relationship, and they talk about their experiences with one another and what they see as successes and pitfalls. They discuss the importance of having an authentic connection between the two individuals. A mentor can provide critical support and guidance throughout one’s career. This episode can help those looking for mentors and how you can maximize this relationship, whether you are the mentor or mentee. Topics include: How being curious is a critical skill for a mentor The importance of being open and vulnerable How to reach out and make an initial connection with a potential mentor Mentor/mentee relationships take many different forms  Practical tips for mentors and mentees You can join the LinkedIn podcast community or the Great Women in Compliance podcast community here.
5/29/202430 minutes, 53 seconds
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Juliana Molina on The Culture We Deserve

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast. In this episode, Hemma visits with Juliana Molina, the globe-trotting Compliance and Ethics expert. With law licenses in Brazil and Spain, and as in-house counsel in the US, she brings a multicultural touch to her work. She thrives as an advisor to various industries, driven by a passion to make compliance and ethics more human-centric. Juliana’s extensive international experience gives her a unique perspective on how culture influences compliance and ethics practices, and how to adapt to different cultural contexts. She prioritizes facilitating ethical choices and fully informed decisions. Juliana’s perspective on cultural transformation in ethics and compliance is deeply rooted in her belief that an ethical organization is one that views compliance not just as a matter of adherence to rules, but as a commitment to prioritizing the well-being and dignity of all its stakeholders. Her experience in advising international businesses has reinforced her emphasis on understanding and addressing the diverse needs and experiences of everyone involved, including employees, customers, shareholders, and vendors. Juliana’s vision of a human-centric approach to compliance promotes empathy, open communication, and collaboration in the co-creation and implementation of compliance programs. By embracing the diverse perspectives within an organization, Juliana believes we can make more informed decisions, drive cultural change, and ultimately align our operations with our vision and goals. Key Highlights: Human-Centric Cultural Transformation in Ethics and Compliance Fostering Open Communication for Ethical Leadership Leadership’s Role in Driving Organizational Cultural Transformation Ethical Leadership to Prevent Toxic Workplaces Ethical Culture Through Compliance and Empathy An Inclusive Approach for Female Empowerment in Compliance Resources: Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here.
5/9/202441 minutes, 17 seconds
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Juliana Molina on the Culture We Deserve

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast. In this episode, Hemma visits with Juliana Molina, the globe-trotting Compliance and Ethics expert. With law licenses in Brazil and Spain, and as in-house counsel in the US, she brings a multicultural touch to her work. She thrives as an advisor to various industries, driven by a passion to make compliance and ethics  more human-centric.   Juliana's extensive international experience gives her a unique perspective on how culture influences compliance and ethics practices, and how to adapt to different cultural contexts.  She prioritizes facilitating ethical choices and fully informed decisions. Juliana's perspective on  cultural transformation in ethics and compliance is deeply rooted in her belief that an ethical organization is one that views compliance not just as a matter of adherence to rules, but as a commitment to prioritizing the well-being and dignity of all its stakeholders. Her experience in advising international businesses has reinforced her emphasis on understanding and addressing the diverse needs and experiences of everyone involved, including employees, customers, shareholders and vendors.  Juliana's vision of a human-centric approach to compliance promotes empathy, open communication, and collaboration in the co-creation and implementation of compliance programs. By embracing the diverse perspectives within an organization, Juliana believes we can make more informed decisions, drive cultural change, and ultimately align our operations with our vision and goals. Key Highlights ·      Human-Centric Cultural Transformation in Ethics and Compliance ·      Fostering Open Communication for Ethical Leadership ·      Human-centric Leadership Drives Organizational Cultural Transformation ·      Ethical Leadership to Prevent Toxic Workplaces ·      Ethical Culture through Compliance and Empathy ·      Inclusive Approach for Female Empowerment in Compliance Resources Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here.  AI Strategy: The Whole Brain Approach Will Win in forbes.com
5/8/202442 minutes, 28 seconds
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Jess Nall on Defending Tech Innovators

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast. In this episode, Hemma visits with Jess Nall, a partner at Baker McKenzie. Jess is a leader of Baker McKenzie’s AI and Cyber practice and leads the Firm’s government defense practice in the US heart of technological innovation, the San Francisco Bay Area. For more than twenty years, Jess has defended technology innovators in high-profile federal and state government enforcement and investigations involving AI, cyber-security, algorithmic price-fixing, economic espionage, and trade sanctions. With two decades of tech law experience under her belt and playing a pivotal role in various global technology enforcement cases, Jess has a grounded understanding of the complexities surrounding AI compliance and enforcement. She highlights the rapidly evolving global regulation and the increasing pressure it places on compliance professionals. Jess advocates for a proactive approach to comprehension and readiness for the enforcement and governance aspects of AI, encouraging clients to have robust good faith narratives that illustrate their compliance efforts. This perspective is formed not only from her substantial professional experience but also her deep understanding of the potential risks and malpractices related to the use of AI technology. Key Highlights: AI Regulations: Impact on Businesses and Compliance Navigating Risks in AI Compliance and Enforcement Deceptive AI Marketing Practices in Industry Fostering Collaboration for AI Compliance Success Enhancing Regulatory Compliance with AI Analytics Enhancing Legal Access with AI Translation Resources: Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here. AI Strategy: The Whole Brain Approach Will Win in forbes.com
5/1/202438 minutes, 23 seconds
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Nick Gallo on Being an Ally

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast. In this episode, Lisa visits with a great friend of GWIC, Nick Gallo, co-CEO at Ethico. Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast. In this episode, Lisa visits with a Great Gentlemen in Compliance, Nick Gallo, co-CEO at Ethico. Nick started his career in private equity, and when he and his brother Gio wanted to grow a business together, they both saw the opportunity to build something that would benefit the compliance space.  Nick’s view about being an ally was shaped when he was young and saw his mother’s challenges as a woman in male-dominated industries and continues through today where he is an advocate for supporting women and diversity, particularly in Ethics and Compliance. Nick and Lisa discuss the importance of being proactive as an ally, and to constantly try to improve our workplaces, whether that is speaking up against injustice or supporting those who may not be heard.   They also speak about how unique and special this profession, and this community are, and the importance of building the next generation of compliance leaders and the women in the profession. Key Highlights ·      Advocacy for Equality and Workplace Support ·      Active Allyship for Positive Social Change ·      A Mentorship's Role in Professional Development Journeys ·      Fostering Inclusivity for Diverse Women in Compliance ·      Fostering Transparency and Fairness in Hiring Resources Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here. 
4/24/202428 minutes, 52 seconds
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Amy Mertz Brown on Financial and Regulatory Compliance

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast. In this episode, Lisa visits with Amy Mertz Brown, the SVP Chief Compliance and Privacy Officer at BECU. Amy started her career in the US government, where she was one of the first leaders at the  Consumer Financial Protection Bureau and was formerly the Chief Compliance Officer at the US Securities and Exchange Commission.  She discusses the similarities and differences between her government and in-house regulatory experiences, and the importance of specific training and detailed work instructions in highly regulated industries.   Amy also shares how she has built her career, and what she views as important in deciding on taking a new role.  Amy and Lisa also talk about Reshma Saujani’s views about imposter syndrome – rather than looking at the reasons someone feels like an imposter, questioning the concept and how it impacts women.   Key Highlights ·      Regulatory Compliance in the Government and in the Private Sector ·      Regulatory Compliance Through Monitoring and Training ·      Navigating Evolving Financial Regulations ·      Questioning the Imposter Syndrome Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here. 
4/16/202423 minutes
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Compliance Week 2024 Wrap Up

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast. We are back and excited for the next set of podcasts.  We kick off with a discussion between #teamgwic – Hemma Lomax, Ellen Hunt, Sarah Hadden and Lisa Fine to talk about the recent Compliance Week 2024 conference and the upcoming podcast episodes.  Compliance Week started with the Women in Compliance brunch, where Ellen spoke and Lisa moderated. The focus of the brunch was on Board Service, and started a week of knowledge sharing, best practices, lessons learned, and building community in our profession   It was a great week in D.C. with phenomenal speakers and information sharing. Most of all there was a positive energy from being surrounded by so many smart, dedicated, and hard working compliance professionals who are creating ethical cultures where people can speak up and be heard. Other key highlights included:  Key Highlights It was a great week in D.C. with phenomenal speakers and information sharing. Most of all there was a positive energy from being surrounded by so many smart, dedicated, and hard working compliance professionals who are creating ethical cultures where people can speak up and be heard. Other key highlights included:  ·      Empowering Women and Compliance Professionals for Board Positions  ·      Ethical Empowerment for Compliance Culture Transformation ·      Empowering Ethical Decision-Making in Compliance Programs ·      Collaborative Experience: Compliance Professionals Uniting to Support Each Other   The #GWIC podcasts thanks #ComplianceWeek, all of the speakers, attendees, and all of the #Ethics and #Compliance Community for making this profession such a fulfilling career.   Resources Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here. 
4/10/202420 minutes, 23 seconds
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Christina Marshall on Global Compliance Leadership

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast. In this episode, visits with Christina Marshall, is an experienced Ethics and Compliance leader with extensive experience working with US and foreign regulators. Her expertise is in fraud and corruption investigations, risk assessments and operationalizing compliance in complex global organizations. She currently leads the Oracle EMEA Compliance team that is responsible for driving compliance through Europe, Middle East and Africa. She is a US trained litigator with a Juris Doctor from Fordham University School of Law. Christina has worked in private practice as well as a Senior Counsel within the Division of Enforcement at the Securities Exchange Commission which was responsible for investigating violations of the FCPA. Her extensive experience also includes teaching as professor of Securities Regulation, White Collar Crime, Corporations and American Law. Based on her extensive experience, Christina is highly skilled in investigating procurement fraud, money laundering and corruption, leading risk assessments, and creating preventative compliance practices. Christina’s perspective on compliance best practices is that it should function as a partnership with the business, focusing significantly on transparency and support for business leaders, rather than acting as the 'police'. Her knowledge in this area has been shaped by her prior experience at the US Securities and Exchange Commission's Division of Enforcement and her extensive engagement with regulators worldwide. Additionally, her time spent teaching law in Russia has enriched her global perspective. She emphasizes the necessity of involving business partners in risk mitigation, with an emphasis on fostering trust and respect, particularly during challenging investigations. Key Highlights ·      Collaborative Approach to Achieving Compliance Goals ·      Efficient Risk Management Through Practical Prioritization ·      Fostering Trust Through Investigative Transparency ·      Encouraging Curiosity and Open Communication Culture ·      Global Compliance Strategies in Multinational Operations ·      Tailoring Compliance Programs for Regional Teams ·      Enhancing Compliance Practices Through Root Cause Analysis ·      Enhancing Efficiency Through Clear Communication Resources Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here. 
3/20/20241 hour, 25 minutes, 53 seconds
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Alejandra Montenegro Almonte on Workplace Culture and Compliance

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast. In this episode, Lisa visits with Alejandra Montenegro Almonte, who is a member at Miller & Chevalier and is the Chair of their International Practice and Practice Co-Lead, Workplace Culture. Prior to joining Miller & Chevalier, she was General Counsel for the North American and Latin American Division at Gategroup and an associate at Weil, Gotshal & Manges.  Alejandra has won awards and recognition from Chambers, Best Lawyers in America and Latin America, among others. In this episode, Alejandra discusses her experience in global ethics and compliance programs, from advising on best practices to workplace investigations.  Alejandra has leveraged her experience in-house and at law firms to provide practical advice and explains her approach to advising clients. Alejandra also provides insight on her experiences with monitorships, as she has advised clients in monitorships and acted as a monitor.  She talks about the importance of a proactive relationship between the monitor and the organization, as well as some thoughts about best practices for communications and meetings. She applies a similar set of principles to all of her work, focusing on learning about a business, including its market dynamics and risks, as part of building the best program for that organization.  She uses that as a foundation for her work on program enhancements and on how to conduct workplace investigations. As this is Women’s History Month, Alejandra provides some ideas on how we can best support women and diversity in our workplaces. Key Highlights: Building Global Ethics & Compliance Programs Experience in Monitorships as an Advisor and a Monitor Providing Practical Advice on Compliance Risks Cultural Nuances in Global Workplace Dynamics Insights During Women’s History Month Resources Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here. 
3/13/202425 minutes, 36 seconds
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Rupert Evill on Prioritizing Employee Well-Being in Risk Management

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast. How can you make risk management more relevant? In this episode, Hemma Lomax visits with Rupert Evill, a seasoned expert in human-centered risk management, with a diverse background spanning over 50 countries and 30 sectors, and a strong academic foundation in business, international relations, and sustainability. Rupert’s perspective on human-centered risk management is deeply rooted in the importance of understanding and valuing the personal and human aspects of risk. He emphasizes the need to consider values, ethics, and beliefs when assessing and managing risks, and highlights the significance of empathy, compassion, and curiosity in the process. His belief is that making risk management relevant involves engaging with local perspectives and experiences, acknowledging the realities faced by individuals in different contexts, and building relationships based on mutual understanding and respect. This perspective has been shaped by his extensive experience in due diligence, intelligence gathering, and counter-espionage, as well as his work with mid-caps and SMEs through his company, Ethics Insight. Key Highlights Strength-Based Approach to Ethical Risk Management  Enhancing Employee Engagement through Simplified Communication Empathy-driven Approach to Addressing Systemic Challenges Fostering Ethical Culture Through Employee Engagement Strategic Alignment for Effective Compliance Functions Individual-Focused Risk Mitigation Strategies Fostering Psychological Safety for Informed Decision-Making Practical Risk Management Strategies for Businesses Resources Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here. 
3/6/20241 hour, 4 minutes, 31 seconds
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Roundtable Discussion on Board of Directors and What They Expect from the Chief Ethics & Compliance Officer with Haydee Olinger and Avril Ussery Sisk

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance! In this episode, Lisa and Ellen have as guests Haydee Olinger and Avril Ussery Sisk to discuss the Board and Compliance. The Chief Ethics &Compliance Officer should be reporting regularly to the Board, but how do you know what the Board expects, especially if there are layers between you and the Board? In this #GWIC episode, Lisa Fine and Ellen Hunt talk with Haydee Olinger and Avril Ussery Sisk, both current board members and ethics experts, about what they expect from the Chief Ethics and Compliance Officer. You can hear this episode on Corporate Compliance Insights or wherever you hear podcasts. https://lnkd.in/d9VGcfw Listen in for how these Board members want the Chief Ethics & Compliance Officer to provide pre-reads, meaningful metrics, and focus on the “high hard risks.” Learn about how to build relationships with the Board and ask for resources, as well as how to gain financial knowledge and business acumen. If you are thinking about getting on a board, Haydee and Avril share their journey and thoughts about how you can get started on your journey.   Resources: Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here.
2/28/202431 minutes, 37 seconds
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Maria Doughty on Empowering Women Leaders

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance podcast! In this episode, Lisa visits with Maria Doughty, who is a prominent figure in the realm of women in leadership and currently the president and CEO of the Chicago Network, which is the premier organization of Chicago’s most influential female leaders. Maria is an ambassador for the organization, its purpose of empowering women to lead, and its mission to connect women for personal and professional growth, advance communities, and support and inspire the next generation of women. Having joined in April 2020, she successfully led the organization through the global pandemic, developed a new strategic plan, digitally transformed the operations, rebuilt the employee team, maintained the organization's fiscal stability, and increased member engagement. Maria’s perspective on women in leadership emphasizes the importance of mentorship, intentional conversations, and transparency in helping women realize their potential and excel in leadership roles. Her experiences in both the corporate and nonprofit sectors have shaped her belief in the value of having others recognize and point out the skills and qualities that individuals may not see in themselves, leading to personal and professional growth. She also stresses the importance of diversity in leadership, noting that a variety of viewpoints is essential for critical thinking and effective progress. Maria’s career trajectory underscores her belief in the power of open, candid conversations, support, and genuine encouragement to empower women to succeed in leadership positions. Join Lisa and Maria for another great episode of Great Women in Compliance. Key Highlights: Empowering Women Leaders in Chicagoland Balancing Empathy and Support in Leadership Empowering Women Leaders in Corporate Environments Empowering Women for Inclusive Leadership Success Enhancing Decision Success Through Diverse Perspectives Resources: Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here.
2/21/202428 minutes, 12 seconds
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Sabrina Segal on Reimagining Risk Management

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast. How can we reimagine risk management? In this episode, Hemma Lomax visits Sabrina Segal, a seasoned third-sector integrity risk and compliance advisor with a legal background. Sabrina is currently in Rwanda as part of an international development and humanitarian assistance team. She hosts Tolerable Risk, a podcast about integrity and compliance in the third sector. Sabrina shares her perspective on compliance and risk management in the third sector, which is inherently high-risk, largely due to its operation in areas where the private sector may not see value and where government regulation has failed. Sabrina believes that traditional approaches to risk management, which are quantitative-heavy and designed for industries like finance and oil and gas, are unsuitable for the third sector, requiring a more accessible qualitative approach for diverse stakeholders. Drawing from an array of global experiences, Sabrina emphasizes the need for bespoke approaches tailored to the specific needs and constraints of small and medium-sized charities and nonprofits. Sabrina has developed an objective-centered risk management approach for the third sector based on work from her mentor, Timothy Leech. Objective-centered risk management focuses on facilitating the achievement of organizational objectives, collaborating to identify threats and opportunities, and directly influencing decision-making. Sabrina’s compliance and risk management work is designed to improve organizations' overall programming and impact in the third sector. Still, it has many applications in the private sector and corporate compliance. Key Highlights: Tolerable Risk Podcast on Tailored Risk Management for Nonprofits Navigating High-Risk Environments: Third Sector Compliance Objective-Driven Risk Analysis and Decision-Making Comprehensive Risk Management Strategy with Active Monitoring The Importance of Involving Stakeholders in Risk Management Quantitative tools and trust in data for risk management Advocacy and Inclusion in Restorative Justice Resources: Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here.
2/14/20241 hour, 2 minutes, 23 seconds
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Gitanjali Sakhuja on Dancing and Diplomacy in Compliance

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast. In this episode, Hemma Lomax visits with Gitanjali Sakhuja, a Fractional Chief Compliance and Ethics Officer based in Washington, D.C. In her current role, Gitanjali works with small to mid-cap companies and nonprofits in the strategic implementation and management of their ethics and compliance programs. Gitanjali mentors regularly with StreetWise Partners, hosts Compliance Socials, a DMV-based community for ethics and compliance professionals and is currently also founding a path for Eyesea, an app mapping pollution in the oceans. She previously worked for the United Nations Development Programme in New York, Geneva and Jakarta and both UNICEF and Maersk in Copenhagen. Gitanjali received her J.D. from the Santa Clara University, School of Law and is CCEP certified. Gitanjali is a passionate lawyer with a unique approach to compliance and diplomacy, known for her creative infusion of dance into her work. Gitanjali's perspective on the "dancing lawyer's unique approach to compliance and diplomacy" is rooted in her belief that her passion for dance enhances her compliance skills and fosters a positive collaborative atmosphere. She likens the unique rhythm and movement of every dance to the tailored approach required in her compliance work, seeing a synergy between the two. Gitanjali's experiences in diverse communities and international organizations have shaped her belief that all complex problems can be solved by understanding the intricacies of the business and finding creative, practical solutions with business partners. Join Hemma Lomax and Gitanjali Sakhuja on this episode of Great Women in Compliance to delve deeper into her unique approach. Key Highlights ·      The Vibrant Connection: Dance and Compliance ·      The Dance of Diplomacy: A UN Career ·      Creative Problem Solving for Compliance Success ·      Leveraging relationships for impactful influence ·      Leveraging diverse experiences for diplomatic superpowers ·      Harnessing Influence: Empowering Change Through Collaboration Resources Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here. 
2/7/202441 minutes
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Asha Palmer and Jason Meyer on Neurodivergent Learners

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast. In this #GWIC episode, Ellen Hunt and Sarah Hadden visit with Asha Palmer and Jason Meyer about their experiences with neurodiversity and neurodivergent workers. You can hear this episode on Corporate Compliance Insights or wherever you hear podcasts. https://lnkd.in/d9VGcfw We live in a neurodiverse world, but what should Compliance do to reach neurodivergent workers? In this roundtable discussion with Asha Palmer, SVP of Compliance Solutions at Skillsoft and Jason Meyer, founder of the NeuRO Inclusion Initiative, we explore this question and talk about how Compliance can get its critical messages out in a way that they are understood by all. With an estimated 20% of the workforce being neurodivergent, now is the time to adapt and adjust how we are presenting compliance information so that it is neuroinclusive. Listen in to learn more about: How to create easy-to-digest bite-sized learnings to avoid cognitive overload not only for neuro divergent workers but for everyone; Methods other than “separate but equal” to include the neuro divergent; and Getting the feedback that you need to meet your learners where they are.  Additional Resources  Neurodiversity Network | Learn. Connect. Work. Achieve.  Neurodiversity at Work (hbr.org)  ‘Critical for Some and Good for All’: Neurodiversity Calls for New Compliance-Program Thinking | COSMOS Compliance Universe (compliancecosmos.org) (SCCE subscription or membership required) 
1/31/202442 minutes, 47 seconds
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Bets Lillo on Compliance and Boards of Directors

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast. In this episode, Lisa Fine visits with Bets Lillo about her experience on corporate Boards of Directors and how to utilize an ethics and compliance background to maximize your opportunities to serve on a Board of Directors. Bets is an engineer and corporate executive with a rich background in sales, technology, finance, operations, and M&A. She is a recognized expert in risk management. She brings a unique perspective on the role and value of compliance professionals in enterprise transformation, believing that they can bring extraordinary value to boards due to their broad understanding of business operations. She emphasizes the importance of compliance professionals being effective because of their experience in an influence and collaboration context, as they focus on being creative, recognizing ethical decision-making, and reducing risk. She also encourages compliance professionals to enhance their qualifications by obtaining a board certification from a credible organization. Join Lisa Fine and Bets Lillo on this episode of the Great Women in Compliance podcast for her insights into how to become a viable candidate for board service and how to succeed in that role. Key Highlights Maintaining Operations and Compliance During Transformation The Strategic Value of Compliance Professionals Elevating Compliance Professionals on Board: Expert Listeners and Observers Building Relationships for Board Opportunities Transitioning to Corporate Boards through Nonprofit Experience Resources Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here.
1/24/202430 minutes, 5 seconds
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Marlene Olsavsky and Kim White on Working with Stakeholders

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast. Today Lisa Fine and Ellen Hunt visited Marlene Olsavsky and Kim White. Kim White and Marlene Olsavsky are both seasoned professionals with extensive experience in the ethics, compliance, and business leadership fields. Kim, with over 20 years of experience in the ethics and compliance field, believes in promoting collaboration, compliance, and diversity through proactive communication and building strong relationships with business leaders. She emphasizes the importance of understanding the strategies and goals of business leaders and involving all parts of the team in driving them forward. Marlene, with 27 years of experience at Marlene Olsavsky’s Global Leadership, views compliance as essential for the success of a business. She emphasizes the importance of education, ownership, and accountability in promoting compliance within the organization and believes in setting expectations with leaders across the organization and acting on compliance issues with a sense of urgency and trust. Join Lisa Fine and Ellen Hunt as they delve deeper into these perspectives with Kim White and Marlene Olsavsky on this episode of Great Women in Compliance. Key Highlights: Kimberly White's Leadership in Ethics and Compliance Marlene Olsavsky's Global Leadership at Pearson The Crucial Partnership for Organizational Success The Crucial Partnership Between Compliance and Business Real-World Examples: A Tactical Approach to Compliance Creating an Inclusive and Equitable Workplace Embracing Growth Through Lifelong Learning Resources: Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here. 
1/17/202435 minutes, 51 seconds
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Hayley Tozeski-From Big Law to Big Compliance

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast. Today Hemma visits with Hayley Tozeski on her career in compliance. Hayley Tozeski is a seasoned professional in strategic compliance and risk management in business conduct, with a rich background in big law and financial crime enforcement. Hayley’s perspective on the subject is that it is vital to prioritize and allocate resources effectively, advising companies on strategic investment of money, time, and resources in managing risks. She believes that a clear strategy is essential for the company and its stakeholders to understand the timeline and pace of development in managing ethics and compliance risks. Additionally, Hayley emphasizes the importance of addressing underlying business processes and building a solid foundation before implementing an ethics and compliance program, viewing strategy as the key to connecting different pieces of the program and ensuring that they are aligned and effective. Join Hemma Lomax and Hayley Tozeski on this episode of Great Women in Compliance to delve deeper into these insights. Key Highlights ·      Strategic Resource Allocation in Compliance Management ·      Building Strong Ethics and Compliance Programs ·      Effective Risk Management through Data Analytics ·      Strategic Risk Management for Ethical Business Conduct ·      Driving integrity through values, leaders, and champions ·      Supporting Youth Transitioning from Foster Care ·      Connecting and Learning Through Mentoring Resources Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here. 
1/10/202437 minutes, 44 seconds
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Mary Shirley Checks in with a GWIC Year End Wrap Up

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast. Today Lisa and Hemma visited with GWIC co-founder Mary Shirley about her move to the West Coast, her new role, and what she sees down the road for compliance in 2024 and beyond. Most recently, she wrote “Living Your Best Compliance Life: 65 Hacks & Cheat Codes to Level Up Your Ethics & Compliance Program (CCI Press 2023).” In “Level Up,” Mary utilized many of her experiences and others in putting together practical and insightful hacks to help new and experienced compliance professionals going forward. Mary also shares some new “hacks” that have been shared with her since the book was published. Mary is known for “sending the elevator back down,” as well as lifting our ethics and compliance community up. She emphasizes the importance of incorporating diverse perspectives into compliance programs and building a culture of compliance. She did that in the book by crowdsourcing ideas from the compliance community and sharing these ideas with all of us. By leveraging the knowledge and experiences of others, Mary helps compliance professionals continuously enhance their compliance programs. Join Lisa Fine, Hemma Lomax, and Mary Shirley on this episode of the Great Women in Compliance podcast to delve deeper into these insights. Key Highlights: Practical Tools for Compliance Leadership The Power of Collaboration for Personal Growth Expanding Incentives for Team Recognition Embracing New Challenges in Teaching The Vibrant and Active Lifestyle of California  Resources: Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here.
12/20/202331 minutes, 16 seconds
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Lisa Beth Lentini Walker on Compliance Career Connections

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast. Today Lisa Fine visits with Lisa Beth Lentini Walker on her career in compliance and how compliance career connections can help one’s journey in compliance. Lisa Beth Lentini Walker is a renowned figure in the ethics and compliance field, currently serving as the Associate General Counsel, Corporate Legal and Assistant Secretary at Marqeta, and the CEO and founder of Lumen Worldwide Endeavors. With a rich background as a securities lawyer and a Chief Compliance Officer, Lisa Beth has a unique perspective on ethics and compliance. She believes in the power of values and intentions in shaping one's professional journey and emphasizes the importance of networking and connections in the compliance industry. Her philosophy revolves around putting values into action and helping organizations align their actions with their ethical principles. She has made a significant impact in the field through her work and the Compliance Career Connection, a platform she started to support and connect professionals in the field. Join Lisa Fine and Lisa Beth Lentini Walker on this episode of the Great Women in Compliance podcast to learn more about her insights and experiences. Key Highlights Lisa Beth's Impact on Ethics and Compliance Lisa Beth's Journey in Ethics and Compliance Embracing Pauses for Personal Growth and Success Aligning Choices with Core Values and Goals Designing a Fulfilling Life Through Reflection Resources Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here.
12/13/202325 minutes, 20 seconds
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Jessica Hayden on Sliding Doors

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast. Today Hemma Lomax visits with Jessica Hayden, a graduate of Georgetown University Law Center and held senior compliance roles at 21st Century Fox, Disney, and Comcast Corporation. This past year she took a step back from corporate life to work on refugee assistance, writing, and moving her family (once again) overseas. Jessica is a seasoned compliance professional with a diverse background in global ethics and international living experiences, having honed her skills in the compliance function through a career in law, including expertise in litigation and the FCPA world. Her perspective on her global ethics career and international living experiences is one of adaptability and seizing opportunities. She has navigated her career alongside her husband's Foreign Service career, finding unique opportunities in each country they have lived in, such as working on freedom of speech and freelance journalism in Azerbaijan. Hayden sees her international experiences open doors and explore different areas of law. She also recognizes the challenges and hardships that come with living in different countries, such as the evacuation from Ukraine and has used these experiences to gain perspective and find her purpose in helping others through pro bono immigration cases. Join Hemma Lomax and Jessica Hayden on this episode of the Great Women in Compliance podcast to learn more about her fascinating journey. Key Highlights Navigating International Compliance Careers with Cultural Awareness The Power of Choice: Navigating Living Abroad Building Trust in Global Professional Relationships Finding Purpose Through Evacuation and Resilience Balancing Motherhood and Career Growth Discovering Hidden Gems in Every Job Resources Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here.
12/6/202327 minutes, 20 seconds
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The Art and Sciences of Story - Building

Come join us for a story or two and tap the shoulder of the storyteller in you. Sarah Hadden and Hemma Lomax were simply enchanted by a presentation by Michelle Beistle and Ashley Dubriwny on the art of story building at the SCCE Compliance and Ethics Institute in Chicago earlier this year and couldn’t wait to share this experience with the GWIC community. Michelle and Ashley literally wake up every day to save the planet in their roles as compliance professionals at The Nature Conservancy (TNC). They have a magnificent talent not only for spinning together an engaging story that awakens the senses and achieves impact, connection, and relevance but also for helping others recognize that we all have it in us to create inspiring and poignant stories. With the help of some simple building blocks and concrete steps, Michelle and Ashley show us that all humans are innately capable of using everyday experiences to build relevant and engaging stories and to share powerful and memorable messages. Inspiration is everywhere. You won't want to miss this masterclass opportunity to unlock the power of story building for your compliance program and beyond. Michelle Beistle joined TNC in April 2019 as the Chief of Ethics & Compliance. She is responsible for implementing and managing TNC’s global Ethics program. Michelle leads a global team that works to promote and foster a culture of integrity across the organization. Michelle is an experienced leader known for collaboration, problem-solving, and strategic business acumen. She is a Certified International Compliance and Ethics Professional (CCEP-I), has years of experience creating and sustaining ethical cultures, and speaks frequently on ethics. Ashley Dubriwny is the Director of Ethics and compliance for North America and Micronesia at the Nature Conservancy. Her areas of professional focus include global communications, Code of Conduct, and partnership building with staff and leaders. Ashley has been part of the Conservancy’s North America Staff Enrichment Planning team since 2014 and is a High Impact Conversations Coach. Ashley has 20+ years of human resources experience with specialized training in performance management, leadership development, and coaching. She holds an M.Ed. in Curriculum Design and Adult Instruction and a graduate certificate in Leadership from eCornell. The Great Women in Compliance Podcast is on the Compliance Podcast Network with a selection of other Compliance-related offerings. GWIC is also sponsored by Corporate Compliance Insights, where we have a page where you can hear every episode. If you are enjoying this episode, please rate it and/or provide a review. Corporate Compliance Insights is a much-appreciated sponsor and supporter of GWIC, including affiliate organization CCI Press publishing the related book; “Sending the Elevator Back Down, What We’ve Learned from Great Women in Compliance” (CCI Press, 2020). If you enjoyed the book, the GWIC team would be very grateful if you would consider rating it on Goodreads and Amazon and leaving a short review. Don’t forget to send the elevator back down by passing on your copy to someone who you think might enjoy reading it when you’re done, or if you can’t bear parting with your copy, consider it as a holiday or appreciation gift for someone in Compliance who deserves a treat. If you enjoyed the book, the GWIC team would be very grateful if you would consider rating it on Goodreads and Amazon and leaving a short review. Don’t forget to send the elevator back down by passing on your copy to someone who you think might enjoy reading it when you’re done, or if you can’t bear parting with your copy, consider it as a holiday or appreciation gift for someone in Compliance who deserves a treat. You can subscribe to the Great Women in Compliance podcast on any podcast player by searching for it and we welcome new subscribers to our podcast. Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here. 
11/29/202345 minutes, 35 seconds
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Audrey Harris - The Woman in the Arena

Audrey Harris, this week’s guest, shared a quote with us that is very meaningful to her. It is from Theodore Roosevelt, about “The Man in the Arena. Since this is #GWIC, we have expanded this to the women in the arena. That is the woman who is actually in the arena, not the critic or the person who waits to offer suggestions or say what can be done better after the hard calls are made and who strives to do the work and…spends herself on a worthy cause; who at the best knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if she fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that her place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither knows victory nor defeat.” Audrey Harris is the woman in the arena. She is Managing Director, of Global Anticorruption, Compliance, Ethics & Non–Financial Risk at Affiliated Monitors, Inc., was formerly at two world-class law firms, and has also been a Chief Compliance Officer. She has made hard decisions in real-time and now helps organizations do the same. In this episode, Lisa and Audrey talk more about what the woman in the arena does and why Ethics and Compliance Officers are truly the people in the arena. Audrey will also provide insight on the most recent US Department of Justice statement, whether it really is the “Monaco Memo 3.0,” and her views about what is significant in the memo and the guidance it provides.  The arena for GWIC next week is US Thanksgiving, so we are off but will see you with a great episode on November 29. The Great Women in Compliance Podcast is on the Compliance Podcast Network with a selection of other Compliance-related offerings. GWIC is also sponsored by Corporate Compliance Insights, where we have a page where you can hear every episode. If you are enjoying this episode, please rate it and/or provide a review. Corporate Compliance Insights is a much-appreciated sponsor and supporter of GWIC, including affiliate organization CCI Press publishing the related book; “Sending the Elevator Back Down, What We’ve Learned from Great Women in Compliance” (CCI Press, 2020). If you enjoyed the book, the GWIC team would be very grateful if you would consider rating it on Goodreads and Amazon and leaving a short review.  Don’t forget to send the elevator back down by passing on your copy to someone who you think might enjoy reading it when you’re done, or if you can’t bear parting with your copy, consider it as a holiday or appreciation gift for someone in Compliance who deserves a treat. If you enjoyed the book, the GWIC team would be very grateful if you would consider rating it on Goodreads and Amazon and leaving a short review.  Don’t forget to send the elevator back down by passing on your copy to someone who you think might enjoy reading it when you’re done, or if you can’t bear parting with your copy, consider it as a holiday or appreciation gift for someone in Compliance who deserves a treat.
11/15/202331 minutes, 45 seconds
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The State of the Profession

As we move towards the end of 2023, and after the major conferences of the year, it seemed like a good time to reflect on the state of the profession. Gwen Hassan, Deputy Chief Compliance Officer at Unisys and host of the #HiddenTraffic podcast, and Kim Yapchai, member of the Board of Directors for DirectWomen and former Senior Vice President, Chief Environmental, Social and Governance Officer at Tenneco joined Ellen Hunt and Lisa Fine talk about where the ethics and compliance profession has been, where we are today, and where we are going. They discuss what makes them optimistic, and what gives them pause. The Great Women in Compliance Podcast is on the Compliance Podcast Network with a selection of other Compliance-related offerings. GWIC is also sponsored by Corporate Compliance Insights, where we have a page where you can hear every episode. If you are enjoying this episode, please rate it and/or provide a review.   Corporate Compliance Insights is a much-appreciated sponsor and supporter of GWIC, including affiliate organization CCI Press publishing the related book; “Sending the Elevator Back Down, What We’ve Learned from Great Women in Compliance” (CCI Press, 2020). If you enjoyed the book, the GWIC team would be very grateful if you would consider rating it on Goodreads and Amazon and leaving a short review. Don’t forget to send the elevator back down by passing on your copy to someone who you think might enjoy reading it when you’re done, or if you can’t bear parting with your copy, consider it as a holiday or appreciation gift for someone in Compliance who deserves a treat. If you enjoyed the book, the GWIC team would be very grateful if you would consider rating it on Goodreads and Amazon and leaving a short review. Don’t forget to send the elevator back down by passing on your copy to someone who you think might enjoy reading it when you’re done, or if you can’t bear parting with your copy, consider it as a holiday or appreciation gift for someone in Compliance who deserves a treat. You can subscribe to the Great Women in Compliance podcast on any podcast player by searching for it and we welcome new subscribers to our podcast. Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here. 
11/8/202337 minutes, 12 seconds
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Renee Rajkumar-the Heart of Compliance

Today's episode features Renee Rajkumar, a Risk and Compliance Manager at the University of Arts, London. Hemma was very excited to host her long-time friend and compliance mentor to talk about how compliance is the conscience of the organization. Renee shares tips on how to overcome negative perceptions of the compliance function, how to build trust, motivate risk awareness and compliance, and leverage the strengths of your business partners while doing so. Learn about a new form of AI in compliance called "Added Intelligence" - first coined here. Grab a blanket and a cup of tea and tune in to hear how with a little love and care, compliance can be the heart and pulse of an organization - and create the conditions where our internal business partners are the best source of compliance intelligence and risk management. Hailing from the warm island of Trinidad and Tobago, Renee is enthusiastic about life and the happiness of people. She believes in the value of genuinely caring for others. This is the basis of Renee's career background. Indecisive in the earlier days of her career Renee worked in process operations, quality, marketing and advertising health and fire safety has now ended up in risk and compliance. Renee’s unique skill set and approach bring a fresh and easy energy to risk and compliance. Renee is also the founder of Portal Coaching Limited which she launched at the start of the Covid lockdown and is trained in NLP, solution-based coaching, business coaching and hypnotherapy. Renee started Portal Coaching Limited to work with companies and individuals to help them gain clarity on who they are, their purpose , work situations and relationship issues. She calls herself a Liberator and has set many people free of their worries and negative thought patterns. Renee draws on these principles in her various training with a seamless cross-application into coaching and compliance. The Great Women in Compliance Podcast is on the Compliance Podcast Network with a selection of other Compliance related offerings. GWIC is also sponsored by Corporate Compliance Insights, where we have a page where you can hear every episode. If you are enjoying this episode, please rate it and/or provide a review.   Corporate Compliance Insights is a much-appreciated sponsor and supporter of GWIC, including affiliate organization CCI Press publishing the related book; “Sending the Elevator Back Down, What We’ve Learned from Great Women in Compliance” (CCI Press, 2020). If you enjoyed the book, the GWIC team would be very grateful if you would consider rating it on Goodreads and Amazon and leaving a short review.  Don’t forget to send the elevator back down by passing on your copy to someone who you think might enjoy reading it when you’re done, or if you can’t bear parting with your copy, consider it as a holiday or appreciation gift for someone in Compliance who deserves a treat. If you enjoyed the book, the GWIC team would be very grateful if you would consider rating it on Goodreads and Amazon and leaving a short review.  Don’t forget to send the elevator back down by passing on your copy to someone who you think might enjoy reading it when you’re done, or if you can’t bear parting with your copy, consider it as a holiday or appreciation gift for someone in Compliance who deserves a treat. You can subscribe to the Great Women in Compliance podcast on any podcast player by searching for it and we welcome new subscribers to our podcast. Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here. 
11/1/202352 minutes, 54 seconds
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A Roundtable on Leveraging Compliance Connections

Welcome back to the Great Women in Compliance podcast. In today’s episode, we kick off our new roundtable format with two special guests joining Hemma and Lisa in discussing leveraging our connections to have an impact at scale in our work. As compliance professionals, we take on more and more and are often involved in complex and novel issues that are difficult to solve alone with confidence. Tune in to hear how Fatema Merchant and Karin Johnson have navigated this during their professional journeys and how they not only send the elevator back down but also help each other ensure they support each other when they are on their way up. Tune in to hear how Karin and Fatema have prioritized connection in their compliance work both from an in-house and outside counsel perspective. We acknowledge that we are in an incredibly challenging moment as we watch with deep sadness and emotion what is happening in Israel, Gaza, and beyond. These events were very much on our minds during the recording of this podcast. Karin Johnson is the VP of Ethics and Compliance at VF Corporation. VF is the parent company of iconic brands such as The North Face ®, Vans®, Timberland®, and Smartwool ®. Prior to joining VF, Karin was Vice President, Deputy General Counsel, and Chief Compliance Officer for 21st Century Fox. Fatema Merchant is a partner in the law firm Sheppard Mullin, where she is co-managing partner of the Washington, D.C. office. Fatema leads the sanctions team at the firm and is a partner in the Governmental and Corporate Investigations Practice Groups. Prior to joining the firm, Fatema seconded as a Special Assistant Attorney General with the District of Columbia Office of the Attorney General. The Great Women in Compliance Podcast is on the Compliance Podcast Network with a selection of other Compliance-related offerings. GWIC is also sponsored by Corporate Compliance Insights, where we have a page where you can hear every episode. If you are enjoying this episode, please rate it and/or provide a review. Corporate Compliance Insights is a much-appreciated sponsor and supporter of GWIC, including affiliate organization CCI Press, publishing the related book, “Sending the Elevator Back Down, What We’ve Learned from Great Women in Compliance” (CCI Press, 2020). If you enjoyed the book, the GWIC team would be very grateful if you would consider rating it on Goodreads and Amazon and leaving a short review. Don’t forget to send the elevator back down by passing on your copy to someone who you think might enjoy reading it when you’re done, or if you can’t bear parting with your copy, consider it as a holiday or appreciation gift for someone in Compliance who deserves a treat. If you enjoyed the book, the GWIC team would be very grateful if you would consider rating it on Goodreads and Amazon and leaving a short review. Don’t forget to send the elevator back down by passing on your copy to someone who you think might enjoy reading it when you’re done, or if you can’t bear parting with your copy, consider it as a holiday or appreciation gift for someone in Compliance who deserves a treat. You can subscribe to the Great Women in Compliance podcast on any podcast player by searching for it, and we welcome new subscribers to our podcast. Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here. 
10/25/202331 minutes, 24 seconds
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Lizette Arias – Speaking Out About Speaking Out

Welcome back to the Great Women in Compliance podcast. In today’s episode, Lisa talks with Lizette Arias, who went through this and is now thriving. Today, she is the Director of Ethics and Compliance at Conagra and was recognized as an Emerging Leader in this year’s Diversity MBA Top 100 Under 50. Providing a safe environment for people to raise concerns is a priority for any Ethics & Compliance officer, but what happens when that person learns first-hand that the safe space does not exist? Like many of us, she raised concerns about an individual’s expenses. However, her experience was one where she was stonewalled, told to stop investigating, and then suffered from retaliation. During all this, she stood up for what she believed was right, and the lessons she learned made her better understand what a whistleblower goes through. She talks about how she brings that insight and empathy into all her investigations. Lizette hopes that her willingness to “speak out about speaking out” will inspire others to feel comfortable doing the same, and Lizette and Lisa (as well as Hemma, Sarah, and Ellen) all want to support anyone who has or is going through this and to connect you all. The Great Women in Compliance Podcast is on the Compliance Podcast Network with other Compliance-related offerings. GWIC is also sponsored by Corporate Compliance Insights, where we have a page where you can hear every episode. If you enjoy this episode, please rate it and/or review it. Corporate Compliance Insights is a much-appreciated sponsor and supporter of GWIC, including affiliate organization CCI Press, publishing the related book, “Sending the Elevator Back Down, What We’ve Learned from Great Women in Compliance” (CCI Press, 2020). If you enjoyed the book, the GWIC team would be very grateful if you would consider rating it on Goodreads and Amazon and leaving a short review.  Don’t forget to send the elevator back down by passing on your copy to someone who you think might enjoy reading it when you’re done, or if you can’t bear parting with your copy, consider it as a holiday or appreciation gift for someone in Compliance who deserves a treat. If you enjoyed the book, the GWIC team would be very grateful if you would consider rating it on Goodreads and Amazon and leaving a short review.  Don’t forget to send the elevator back down by passing on your copy to someone who you think might enjoy reading it when you’re done, or if you can’t bear parting with your copy, consider it as a holiday or appreciation gift for someone in Compliance who deserves a treat. You can subscribe to the Great Women in Compliance podcast on any podcast player by searching for it, and we welcome new subscribers to our podcast. Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here.
10/18/202329 minutes, 22 seconds
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SCCE Recap...and GWIC's plans for Q3

Welcome back to the Great Women in Compliance podcast. Today's episode was recorded by the full GWIC 2.0 team, Lisa, Hemma, Ellen Hunt and Sarah Hadden during the Society for Corporate Compliance and Ethics conference (CEI) in Chicago. It was a fantastic event, and all four women valued the opportunity to connect with friends and meet some new people as well. The episode was recorded before Deputy Attorney General Lisa Monaco spoke, but all were looking forward to hearing that. In this episode, each one of the group mentioned some highlights from the beginning of the conference, and their advice about how to get the most out of the SCCE (or any conference). They also discussed things that they are looking forward to discussing on the podcast this fall - in particular, Ellen mentioned how to make the investigation process better for reporters and people involved in investigations, and Sarah is excited to bring her perspective as a business leader and publisher to the discussions.  The Great Women in Compliance Podcast is on the Compliance Podcast Network with a selection of other Compliance related offerings. GWIC is also sponsored by Corporate Compliance Insights, where we have a page where you can hear every episode. If you are enjoying this episode, please rate it and/or provide a review. Corporate Compliance Insights is a much-appreciated sponsor and supporter of GWIC, including affiliate organization CCI Press publishing the related book; “Sending the Elevator Back Down, What We’ve Learned from Great Women in Compliance” (CCI Press, 2020). If you enjoyed the book, the GWIC team would be very grateful if you would consider rating it on Goodreads and Amazon and leaving a short review.  Don’t forget to send the elevator back down by passing on your copy to someone who you think might enjoy reading it when you’re done, or if you can’t bear parting with your copy, consider it as a holiday or appreciation gift for someone in Compliance who deserves a treat. If you enjoyed the book, the GWIC team would be very grateful if you would consider rating it on Goodreads and Amazon and leaving a short review.  Don’t forget to send the elevator back down by passing on your copy to someone who you think might enjoy reading it when you’re done, or if you can’t bear parting with your copy, consider it as a holiday or appreciation gift for someone in Compliance who deserves a treat. You can subscribe to the Great Women in Compliance podcast on any podcast player by searching for it and we welcome new subscribers to our podcast. Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here.
10/11/202322 minutes, 51 seconds
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GWIC 2.0-A New Era

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Hemma Lomax. GWIC is back to start the 2.0 era! We are very excited to be back, and to start out our new format and hear your views. One consistent thing about the GWIC community is how much you all accomplish and that happened with Lloydette. As you will hear, Lloydette has been offered an amazing government appointment. One of the downsides is that she needed to re-evaluate some of her public commitments. It made the most sense for her to step down from GWIC. During the hiatus, the inaugural Women in Compliance Summit took place, and it was a huge success. Hemma has also been a guest of the podcast (Episode 145), and an advocate of “Sending the Elevator Back Down, “ and was already helping behind the scenes. We are thrilled to have Hemma as a co-host, and Ellen Hunt of Spark Compliance and Sarah Hadden of Corporate Compliance Insights as part of the GWIC team and supporting our larger discussions. All four of us will be in Chicago at the SCCE CEI the first week in October, and then the 4 of us will recap the conference for the October 10 episode and to officially kick off this semester. You can subscribe to the Great Women in Compliance podcast on any podcast player by searching for it and we welcome new subscribers to our podcast. Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here.
9/27/202330 minutes, 15 seconds
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GWICies and Thank You Mary

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, hosted by Mary Shirley and Lisa Fine. It all started with a casual conversation between friends in October 2018 at an evening event in Las Vegas, and shortly thereafter, the Great Women in Compliance podcast was born, the first podcast on the Compliance Podcast Network that was not hosted by Tom Fox. For the last 4.5 years, Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley have worked on developing the podcast to best bring listeners quality content and this week, they reach their 200th episode. At this juncture, Mary passes the baton to Lloydette Bai-Marrow, who will be joining Lisa Fine as the newest #GWIC co-host. Join them after a summer break to tune in to the new iteration of the podcast. In the meantime, this episode features mini interviews between Lisa and Mary, as well another round of the GWICies - the recognition (sometimes tongue in cheek) that Lisa and Mary have given during certain milestones since their 100th episode. As she puts down the microphone, Mary extends gratitude to all of the listeners and guests who made the podcast what it is today. She also voices her huge appreciation for Lisa and the fruitful partnership over the last several years and looks forward to what is to come for the podcast, as the number one cheerleader for GWIC 2.0 Corporate Compliance Insights is a much-appreciated sponsor and supporter of GWIC, including affiliate organization CCI Press publishing the related book; “Sending the Elevator Back Down, What We’ve Learned from Great Women in Compliance” (CCI Press, 2020). If you enjoyed the book, the GWIC team would be very grateful if you would consider rating it on Goodreads and Amazon and leaving a short review.  Don’t forget to send the elevator back down by passing on your copy to someone who you think might enjoy reading it when you’re done, or if you can’t bear parting with your copy, consider it as a holiday or appreciation gift for someone in Compliance who deserves a treat. If you enjoyed the book, the GWIC team would be very grateful if you would consider rating it on Goodreads and Amazon and leaving a short review.  Don’t forget to send the elevator back down by passing on your copy to someone who you think might enjoy reading it when you’re done, or if you can’t bear parting with your copy, consider it as a holiday or appreciation gift for someone in Compliance who deserves a treat. You can subscribe to the Great Women in Compliance podcast on any podcast player by searching for it and we welcome new subscribers to our podcast. Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here.
7/5/202337 minutes, 7 seconds
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Mary's Last Soliloquy

Join Mary Shirley, co-founder of The Great Women and Compliance podcast, as she reflects on the difficulties of finding the perfect guest for the show without it becoming a paid infomercial in her latest hosted episode. She also shares some fun behind-the-scenes information and announces her departure from the show. But don't fret, because the remaining episodes are packed with compelling discussions on self-awareness, promoting diversity and inclusion in the workplace, and implementing off-channel communication policies. You'll gain valuable insights and tips from experts that will challenge your ideas and provoke your thinking. So don't miss out, tune in now! You can find the Great Women in Compliance Podcast on the Compliance Podcast Network where you can find several other resources and podcasts to keep you up to date in the Ethics and Compliance world. You can also find the GWIC podcast on Corporate Compliance Insights where you can learn more about the podcast, stream prior episodes and catch up on Mary's monthly column "Living Your Best Compliance Life.”  Corporate Compliance Insights is a much-appreciated sponsor and supporter of GWIC, including affiliate organization CCI Press publishing the related book; “Sending the Elevator Back Down, What We’ve Learned from Great Women in Compliance” (CCI Press, 2020). If you enjoyed the book, the GWIC team would be very grateful if you would consider rating it on Goodreads and Amazon and leaving a short review.  Don’t forget to send the elevator back down by passing on your copy to someone who you think might enjoy reading it when you’re done, or if you can’t bear parting with your copy, consider it as a holiday or appreciation gift for someone in Compliance who deserves a treat. If you enjoyed the book, the GWIC team would be very grateful if you would consider rating it on Goodreads and Amazon and leaving a short review.  Don’t forget to send the elevator back down by passing on your copy to someone who you think might enjoy reading it when you’re done, or if you can’t bear parting with your copy, consider it as a holiday or appreciation gift for someone in Compliance who deserves a treat. You can subscribe to the Great Women in Compliance podcast on any podcast player by searching for it and we welcome new subscribers to our podcast. Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here. 
6/28/202323 minutes, 33 seconds
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GWIC 2.0- Introducing Lisa’s New Co-Host Lloydette Bai-Marrow

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, hosted by Mary Shirley and Lisa Fine.   As part of the countdown to 200, Lisa and Mary have their last two episodes before the GWICies and the summer hiatus before GWIC 2.0.  Today, we get to announce our new co-host, Lloydette Bai-Marrow, who was featured in Episode 110.  She is the founding partner of Parametric Global Consulting ,a former prosecutor at the UK’s Serious Fraud Office, is a member of the Board of Spotlight on Corruption, a UK-based anti-corruption charity that tracks how the UK implements its anti-corruption laws and has a commitment to anti-corruption in Africa and particularly Sierra Leone. She is also committed to sending the elevator back down and our community.  In the episode, she discusses how she decided to make time to add co-hosting this podcast to her full plate, and some of her ideas for GWIC 2.0.  Lloydette also talks about the impact that Mary has had in the E&C world, and how that inspired her to join Lisa on the journey. We are very excited about this next phase for all of us, including Mary's upcoming book and her ongoing column at Corporate Compliance Insights! You can find the Great Women in Compliance Podcast on the Compliance Podcast Network where you can find several other resources and podcasts to keep you up to date in the Ethics and Compliance world. You can also find the GWIC podcast on Corporate Compliance Insights where you can learn more about the podcast, stream prior episodes and catch up on Mary's monthly column "Living Your Best Compliance Life.”  Corporate Compliance Insights is a much-appreciated sponsor and supporter of GWIC, including affiliate organization CCI Press publishing the related book; “Sending the Elevator Back Down, What We’ve Learned from Great Women in Compliance” (CCI Press, 2020). If you enjoyed the book, the GWIC team would be very grateful if you would consider rating it on Goodreads and Amazon and leaving a short review.  Don’t forget to send the elevator back down by passing on your copy to someone who you think might enjoy reading it when you’re done, or if you can’t bear parting with your copy, consider it as a holiday or appreciation gift for someone in Compliance who deserves a treat. If you enjoyed the book, the GWIC team would be very grateful if you would consider rating it on Goodreads and Amazon and leaving a short review.  Don’t forget to send the elevator back down by passing on your copy to someone who you think might enjoy reading it when you’re done, or if you can’t bear parting with your copy, consider it as a holiday or appreciation gift for someone in Compliance who deserves a treat. You can subscribe to the Great Women in Compliance podcast on any podcast player by searching for it and we welcome new subscribers to our podcast. Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here. 
6/21/202321 minutes, 40 seconds
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Principled Podcast X GWIC – A Discussion with Meredith Hunt

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, hosted by Mary Shirley and Lisa Fine.   Today's Great Women in Compliance episode is a crossover one with LRN's Principled Podcast. Meredith Hunt, Ethics and Compliance Specialist at LRN, makes her podcast debut hosting, #GWIC Co-host, Mary Shirley. Change is hard; we fight to hold on, yet we fight to let go, and deciding which direction to go in can have a huge impact for not only your journey, but of those around you. Meredith interviews Mary about some critical coaching questions to ask yourself when at a crossroads that are particularly helpful if you're questioning whether you should stay or go from the status quo.    They also discuss favorite ways to send the elevator back down to those around them and share tips for leveling up your Compliance program, including a spoiler idea from Mary's soon-to-be released book on innovative and trail blazing ways to level up your Compliance program, called Living Your Best Compliance Life. Look out for the e-book soon and the later hard copy launch, coinciding with the Society of Corporate Compliance and Ethics Compliance and Ethics Institute.  You can find the a written transcript of the episode and more information at the Principled Podcast here: https://blog.lrn.com/how-ethics-and-compliance-professionals-can-send-the-elevator-back-down You can find the Great Women in Compliance Podcast on the Compliance Podcast Network where you can find several other resources and podcasts to keep you up to date in the Ethics and Compliance world. You can also find the GWIC podcast on Corporate Compliance Insights where you can learn more about the podcast, stream prior episodes and catch up on Mary's monthly column "Living Your Best Compliance Life.”  Corporate Compliance Insights is a much-appreciated sponsor and supporter of GWIC, including affiliate organization CCI Press publishing the related book; “Sending the Elevator Back Down, What We’ve Learned from Great Women in Compliance” (CCI Press, 2020). If you enjoyed the book, the GWIC team would be very grateful if you would consider rating it on Goodreads and Amazon and leaving a short review.  Don’t forget to send the elevator back down by passing on your copy to someone who you think might enjoy reading it when you’re done, or if you can’t bear parting with your copy, consider it as a holiday or appreciation gift for someone in Compliance who deserves a treat. If you enjoyed the book, the GWIC team would be very grateful if you would consider rating it on Goodreads and Amazon and leaving a short review.  Don’t forget to send the elevator back down by passing on your copy to someone who you think might enjoy reading it when you’re done, or if you can’t bear parting with your copy, consider it as a holiday or appreciation gift for someone in Compliance who deserves a treat. You can subscribe to the Great Women in Compliance podcast on any podcast player by searching for it and we welcome new subscribers to our podcast. Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here. 
6/14/202325 minutes, 49 seconds
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Carolyn Renzin on Compliance at FanDuel

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, hosted by Mary Shirley and Lisa Fine.   Over the past few years, it seems like fantasy sports and online gaming have a higher profile than ever, and they are part of a rapidly growing industry. Today's guest, Carolyn Renzin, is the Chief Legal and Compliance Officer at FanDuel, which is one of the leaders in that space. In a wide-ranging discussion, Carolyn and Lisa discuss building a compliance function at the same time an industry framework is being built, and how she has grown her team. She also talks about FanDuel's commitment to integrity - both as an organization and for professional sports in general. Her analogy between sports and her role is one we can all keep in mind - "you play offense, we play defense, and we need each other."   You can find the Great Women in Compliance Podcast on the Compliance Podcast Network where you can find several other resources and podcasts to keep you up to date in the Ethics and Compliance world. You can also find the GWIC podcast on Corporate Compliance Insights where you can learn more about the podcast, stream prior episodes and catch up on Mary's monthly column "Living Your Best Compliance Life.”  Corporate Compliance Insights is a much-appreciated sponsor and supporter of GWIC, including affiliate organization CCI Press publishing the related book; “Sending the Elevator Back Down, What We’ve Learned from Great Women in Compliance” (CCI Press, 2020). If you enjoyed the book, the GWIC team would be very grateful if you would consider rating it on Goodreads and Amazon and leaving a short review.  Don’t forget to send the elevator back down by passing on your copy to someone who you think might enjoy reading it when you’re done, or if you can’t bear parting with your copy, consider it as a holiday or appreciation gift for someone in Compliance who deserves a treat. If you enjoyed the book, the GWIC team would be very grateful if you would consider rating it on Goodreads and Amazon and leaving a short review.  Don’t forget to send the elevator back down by passing on your copy to someone who you think might enjoy reading it when you’re done, or if you can’t bear parting with your copy, consider it as a holiday or appreciation gift for someone in Compliance who deserves a treat. You can subscribe to the Great Women in Compliance podcast on any podcast player by searching for it and we welcome new subscribers to our podcast. Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here. 
6/7/202321 minutes, 40 seconds
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Reflections from Lisa and Mary

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, hosted by Mary Shirley and Lisa Fine.  Today, however producer Tom Fox guest hosts Mary and Lisa.  The Great Women in Compliance podcast is not quite at 200 episodes. However Lisa, Mary and Tom wanted to do special joint episode, looking back on the last 4.5 years of #GWIC. Tom leads this episode by putting questions to Lisa and Mary while sharing his own perceptions and observations about the journey so far.  The team discusses some behind-the scenes content about how the episodes were put together in light of the goals Lisa and Mary had for their audience.  They discuss the lighter moments and memorable times from various perspectives and what the community support has meant to them. This episode sets the stage for the 200th episode which we invite you to join us for on 5 July 2023. Some of the highlights include: ·      How the kernel of GWIC began and how it still resonates today.  ·      How Mary and Lisa helped several guests overcome the imposter syndrome by coming on the podcast as guests. ·      How the podcast led to the book.  ·      How Mary and Lisa have built upon their GWIC experiences.  ·      Lisa previews GWIC 2.0. ·      Some favorite memories.  ·      Some funny memories.  You can find the Great Women in Compliance Podcast on the Compliance Podcast Network where you can find several other resources and podcasts to keep you up to date in the Ethics and Compliance world. You can also find the GWIC podcast on Corporate Compliance Insights where you can learn more about the podcast, stream prior episodes and catch up on Mary's monthly column "Living Your Best Compliance Life.”  Corporate Compliance Insights is a much-appreciated sponsor and supporter of GWIC, including affiliate organization CCI Press publishing the related book; “Sending the Elevator Back Down, What We’ve Learned from Great Women in Compliance” (CCI Press, 2020). If you enjoyed the book, the GWIC team would be very grateful if you would consider rating it on Goodreads and Amazon and leaving a short review.  Don’t forget to send the elevator back down by passing on your copy to someone who you think might enjoy reading it when you’re done, or if you can’t bear parting with your copy, consider it as a holiday or appreciation gift for someone in Compliance who deserves a treat. If you enjoyed the book, the GWIC team would be very grateful if you would consider rating it on Goodreads and Amazon and leaving a short review.  Don’t forget to send the elevator back down by passing on your copy to someone who you think might enjoy reading it when you’re done, or if you can’t bear parting with your copy, consider it as a holiday or appreciation gift for someone in Compliance who deserves a treat. You can subscribe to the Great Women in Compliance podcast on any podcast player by searching for it and we welcome new subscribers to our podcast. Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here. 
5/31/202325 minutes, 41 seconds
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Nicole Di Schino - The Compliance Education Fanatic

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, hosted by Mary Shirley and Lisa Fine.   Most E&C professionals know that you can have the best practices and policies, but if they are not understood by your employees and teams, they cannot be effective. And some of us, like today's guest, Nicole Di Schino, help us with that next step in our training programs. She calls herself the "Compliance Education Fanatic," and you will understand why after hearing this episode. Nicole discusses the importance of having creative and interactive training, and also how using training with a choice of a "best" answer is better than letting people pick a clear right answer. Nicole and Lisa also talk about how different ways to communicate with and provide training for those in different generations, particularly with Gen Z. You can find the Great Women in Compliance Podcast on the Compliance Podcast Network where you can find several other resources and podcasts to keep you up to date in the Ethics and Compliance world. You can also find the GWIC podcast on Corporate Compliance Insights where you can learn more about the podcast, stream prior episodes, and catch up on Mary's monthly column "Living Your Best Compliance Life.”  Corporate Compliance Insights is a much-appreciated sponsor and supporter of GWIC, including affiliate organization CCI Press publishing the related book; “Sending the Elevator Back Down, What We’ve Learned from Great Women in Compliance” (CCI Press, 2020). If you enjoyed the book, the GWIC team would be very grateful if you would consider rating it on Goodreads and Amazon and leaving a short review.  Don’t forget to send the elevator back down by passing on your copy to someone who you think might enjoy reading it when you’re done, or if you can’t bear parting with your copy, consider it as a holiday or appreciation gift for someone in Compliance who deserves a treat. If you enjoyed the book, the GWIC team would be very grateful if you would consider rating it on Goodreads and Amazon and leaving a short review.  Don’t forget to send the elevator back down by passing on your copy to someone who you think might enjoy reading it when you’re done, or if you can’t bear parting with your copy, consider it as a holiday or appreciation gift for someone in Compliance who deserves a treat. You can subscribe to the Great Women in Compliance podcast on any podcast player by searching for it and we welcome new subscribers to our podcast. Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here. 
5/24/202325 minutes, 15 seconds
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Elaine Pretorius- the Sage Leader

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, hosted by Mary Shirley and Lisa Fine.   Elaine Pretorius is even more of an international citizen than Mary.  She shares her fascinating journey to today where she is a leader at McKinsey & Company's Compliance function to the #GWIC audience.  Elaine gives some sage advice to listeners about implementing transformational change, being an extremely well-respected leader and diplomacy in the workplace.  Mary and Elaine shout out one of Elaine's former team members, Melissa Lempa because they are huge fans of Melissa's for being a true Great Woman in Compliance and legendary at her job.  Elaine shares some great personal anecdotes in this episode, join us to benefit from her wise advice. You can find the Great Women in Compliance Podcast on the Compliance Podcast Network where you can find several other resources and podcasts to keep you up to date in the Ethics and Compliance world. You can also find the GWIC podcast on Corporate Compliance Insights where you can learn more about the podcast, stream prior episodes and catch up on Mary's monthly column "Living Your Best Compliance Life.”  Corporate Compliance Insights is a much-appreciated sponsor and supporter of GWIC, including affiliate organization CCI Press publishing the related book; “Sending the Elevator Back Down, What We’ve Learned from Great Women in Compliance” (CCI Press, 2020). If you enjoyed the book, the GWIC team would be very grateful if you would consider rating it on Goodreads and Amazon and leaving a short review.  Don’t forget to send the elevator back down by passing on your copy to someone who you think might enjoy reading it when you’re done, or if you can’t bear parting with your copy, consider it as a holiday or appreciation gift for someone in Compliance who deserves a treat. If you enjoyed the book, the GWIC team would be very grateful if you would consider rating it on Goodreads and Amazon and leaving a short review.  Don’t forget to send the elevator back down by passing on your copy to someone who you think might enjoy reading it when you’re done, or if you can’t bear parting with your copy, consider it as a holiday or appreciation gift for someone in Compliance who deserves a treat. You can subscribe to the Great Women in Compliance podcast on any podcast player by searching for it and we welcome new subscribers to our podcast. Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here. 
5/17/202333 minutes, 6 seconds
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Lisa Fine on Change, Culture and Community

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, hosted by Mary Shirley and Lisa Fine.   A few years ago, Lisa committed to doing one solo episode a year, and here is the 2023 episode.  As she prepared (which is always a strange experience as it isn't for a conversation with someone else, but a soliloquy), this became a theme of "threes" - she talks about 3 topics, all of which start with "C" the third letter of the alphabet.   These are change, culture and community. In the change section, she gives some spoiler updates on the GWIC 2.0 format, among other things.  She also talks about some of the things on her mind about organizational culture and how that has changed - and not changed - as we continue into a post-pandemic life.  Lastly, in terms of community, she reflects on our E&C community, some exciting upcoming events and her appreciation of all of the support in moving forward from Mary and so many #GWICs. Corporate Compliance Insights is a much-appreciated sponsor and supporter of GWIC, including affiliate organization CCI Press publishing the related book; “Sending the Elevator Back Down, What We’ve Learned from Great Women in Compliance” (CCI Press, 2020). If you enjoyed the book, the GWIC team would be very grateful if you would consider rating it on Goodreads and Amazon and leaving a short review.  Don’t forget to send the elevator back down by passing on your copy to someone who you think might enjoy reading it when you’re done, or if you can’t bear parting with your copy, consider it as a holiday or appreciation gift for someone in Compliance who deserves a treat. If you enjoyed the book, the GWIC team would be very grateful if you would consider rating it on Goodreads and Amazon and leaving a short review.  Don’t forget to send the elevator back down by passing on your copy to someone who you think might enjoy reading it when you’re done, or if you can’t bear parting with your copy, consider it as a holiday or appreciation gift for someone in Compliance who deserves a treat. You can subscribe to the Great Women in Compliance podcast on any podcast player by searching for it and we welcome new subscribers to our podcast. Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here. 
5/10/202325 minutes, 42 seconds
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Vera Cherepanova - From Italy with Integrity

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, hosted by Mary Shirley and Lisa Fine.   Mary has known of Vera Cherepanova for a long time due to her contributions on the FCPABlog but they only just met in person for the first time at the Society of Corporate Compliance and Ethics ECEI in Amsterdam at the conference in March 2023. Mary was delighted to invite Vera to the #GWIC podcast to talk about her specialty subjects matter areas of behavioral change, behavioral risk and speaking up. We’re pleased to feature Vera who is very accomplished as the author of the first book on corporate compliance in Russian. You can find the Great Women in Compliance Podcast on the Compliance Podcast Network where you can find several other resources and podcasts to keep you up to date in the Ethics and Compliance world. You can also find the GWIC podcast on Corporate Compliance Insights where you can learn more about the podcast, stream prior episodes and catch up on Mary's monthly column "Living Your Best Compliance Life.”  Corporate Compliance Insights is a much-appreciated sponsor and supporter of GWIC, including affiliate organization CCI Press publishing the related book; “Sending the Elevator Back Down, What We’ve Learned from Great Women in Compliance” (CCI Press, 2020). If you enjoyed the book, the GWIC team would be very grateful if you would consider rating it on Goodreads and Amazon and leaving a short review.  Don’t forget to send the elevator back down by passing on your copy to someone who you think might enjoy reading it when you’re done, or if you can’t bear parting with your copy, consider it as a holiday or appreciation gift for someone in Compliance who deserves a treat. If you enjoyed the book, the GWIC team would be very grateful if you would consider rating it on Goodreads and Amazon and leaving a short review.  Don’t forget to send the elevator back down by passing on your copy to someone who you think might enjoy reading it when you’re done, or if you can’t bear parting with your copy, consider it as a holiday or appreciation gift for someone in Compliance who deserves a treat. You can subscribe to the Great Women in Compliance podcast on any podcast player by searching for it and we welcome new subscribers to our podcast. Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here. 
5/3/202330 minutes, 24 seconds
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Joe Murphy - the Great Waltzer in Compliance

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, hosted by Mary Shirley and Lisa Fine.   A #GWIC can be lots of things - which is one of the best parts of this community. Today's guest is a true advocate and supporter of women while also being one of the architects of this profession and one of our best.  It's Joe Murphy, who co-authored the first book ever written on compliance, and is currently the Editor of Compliance and Ethics: Ideas and Answers. Getting to know Joe is an honor and a privilege, and if you do, you will immediately learn about his passion for dance. He's a #CCO and #GWIC in his role as Chief Cha-Cha Officer at Haddonfield Dance, and a Great Waltzer in Compliance. Lisa was lucky to speak with this about and a number of other topics, including the genesis of Compliance and Ethics: Ideas and Answers. They also speak about what Joe sees as the best design for a CECO role to set them up for success, and about the power dynamics that are inherent in roles.   Just as the waltz can be done in a circle, we end with a discussion of what Joe has enjoyed and learned from dance that can be great lessons for life and life in compliance. Lisa and Mary are so grateful that Joe has spent some time with us. You can find the Great Women in Compliance Podcast on the Compliance Podcast Network where you can find several other resources and podcasts to keep you up to date in the Ethics and Compliance world. You can also find the GWIC podcast on Corporate Compliance Insights where you can learn more about the podcast, stream prior episodes and catch up on Mary's monthly column "Living Your Best Compliance Life.”  Corporate Compliance Insights is a much-appreciated sponsor and supporter of GWIC, including affiliate organization CCI Press publishing the related book; “Sending the Elevator Back Down, What We’ve Learned from Great Women in Compliance” (CCI Press, 2020). If you enjoyed the book, the GWIC team would be very grateful if you would consider rating it on Goodreads and Amazon and leaving a short review.  Don’t forget to send the elevator back down by passing on your copy to someone who you think might enjoy reading it when you’re done, or if you can’t bear parting with your copy, consider it as a holiday or appreciation gift for someone in Compliance who deserves a treat. If you enjoyed the book, the GWIC team would be very grateful if you would consider rating it on Goodreads and Amazon and leaving a short review.  Don’t forget to send the elevator back down by passing on your copy to someone who you think might enjoy reading it when you’re done, or if you can’t bear parting with your copy, consider it as a holiday or appreciation gift for someone in Compliance who deserves a treat. You can subscribe to the Great Women in Compliance podcast on any podcast player by searching for it and we welcome new subscribers to our podcast. Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here. 
4/26/202331 minutes, 3 seconds
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Jane Norberg-the Whistleblowing Guru

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, hosted by Mary Shirley and Lisa Fine.  The Great Women in Compliance podcast has covered speaking up from many angles over the last several years because it’s such an important and perennial topic that Compliance Officers need to keep thinking on to maximize effectiveness.   This week’s unique speak up angle comes from the former Chief of the Office of the Whistleblower at the Securities and Exchange Commission.  Jane Norberg is now a partner at Arnold Porter and shares some insightful observations and advice that leverage off her knowledge from receiving whistleblower tips over nine years.  She tells the #GWIC audience how the Office of the Whistleblower focuses their priorities and how the SEC typically works with whistleblowers.  Jane talks about the well-known phenomenon that many whistleblowers do make an attempt to report internally before they turn elsewhere and Mary asks her about some of the specific areas of opportunity that companies have to avoid missing the gift of a whistleblower tip – you won’t want to miss this. You can find the Great Women in Compliance Podcast on the Compliance Podcast Network where you can find several other resources and podcasts to keep you up to date in the Ethics and Compliance world. You can also find the GWIC podcast on Corporate Compliance Insights where you can learn more about the podcast, stream prior episodes and catch up on Mary's monthly column "Living Your Best Compliance Life.”  Corporate Compliance Insights is a much-appreciated sponsor and supporter of GWIC, including affiliate organization CCI Press publishing the related book; “Sending the Elevator Back Down, What We’ve Learned from Great Women in Compliance” (CCI Press, 2020). If you enjoyed the book, the GWIC team would be very grateful if you would consider rating it on Goodreads and Amazon and leaving a short review.  Don’t forget to send the elevator back down by passing on your copy to someone who you think might enjoy reading it when you’re done, or if you can’t bear parting with your copy, consider it as a holiday or appreciation gift for someone in Compliance who deserves a treat. If you enjoyed the book, the GWIC team would be very grateful if you would consider rating it on Goodreads and Amazon and leaving a short review.  Don’t forget to send the elevator back down by passing on your copy to someone who you think might enjoy reading it when you’re done, or if you can’t bear parting with your copy, consider it as a holiday or appreciation gift for someone in Compliance who deserves a treat. You can subscribe to the Great Women in Compliance podcast on any podcast player by searching for it and we welcome new subscribers to our podcast. Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here. 
4/19/202330 minutes, 32 seconds
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Maria D’Avanzo - Chief Evangelist Officer for Traliant

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, hosted by Mary Shirley and Lisa Fine. In today's episode, the Great Women in Compliance podcast delves into training and learning with Maria D’Avanzo, who is the Chief Evangelist Officer for Traliant.  Prior to joining Traliant, Maria was the Chief Ethics and Compliance Officer and Chief Privacy Officer for Cushman & Wakefield. Like Lisa, many of you may be wondering what a "Chief Evangelist Officer" does in compliance, and Maria's role is one which is more often seen in tech companies, where there is a person who is dedicated to improving the customer experience in all areas, from product development to customer servicing, using her perspective as an E&C officer.  She shares some of what she has learned from customers and her views on trends and current issues, including the use of AI and best practices.  She also talks about her experiences in financial compliance, and may be the first podcast guest who holds NASD Series 24, 7, and 63 licenses. You can find the Great Women in Compliance Podcast on the Compliance Podcast Network (CPN) where you can find several other resources and podcasts to keep you up to date in the Ethics and Compliance world. You can also find the GWIC podcast on Corporate Compliance Insights (CCI) where you can learn more about the podcast, stream prior episodes and catch up on Mary's monthly column "Living Your Best Compliance Life.” Corporate Compliance Insights is a much-appreciated sponsor and supporter of GWIC, including affiliate organization CCI Press publishing the related book; “Sending the Elevator Back Down, What We’ve Learned from Great Women in Compliance” (CCI Press, 2020). If you enjoyed the book, the GWIC team would be very grateful if you would consider rating it on Goodreads and Amazon and leaving a short review.  Don’t forget to send the elevator back down by passing on your copy to someone who you think might enjoy reading it when you’re done, or if you can’t bear parting with your copy, consider it as a holiday or appreciation gift for someone in Compliance who deserves a treat. If you enjoyed the book, the GWIC team would be very grateful if you would consider rating it on Goodreads and Amazon and leaving a short review.  Don’t forget to send the elevator back down by passing on your copy to someone who you think might enjoy reading it when you’re done, or if you can’t bear parting with your copy, consider it as a holiday or appreciation gift for someone in Compliance who deserves a treat. You can subscribe to the Great Women in Compliance podcast on any podcast player by searching for it and we welcome new subscribers to our podcast. Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here.
4/12/202332 minutes, 4 seconds
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Mary and Lisa in a Discussion in The Big News Edition

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, hosted by Mary Shirley and Lisa Fine. As Lisa and Mary return from seasonal break, they have some big news about the next chapter of the podcast.  Join this episode to hear about Mary’s planned departure from Great Women in Compliance at the 200th episode milestone and the exciting plans that Lisa has in mind to change things up and keep them fresh for #GWIC listeners when returning from an extended Summer break later in the year.  We look forward to celebrating the 200th episode with all of our listeners on 5 July 2023!  Lisa and Mary also take the opportunity this episode to talk about some topical issues in Compliance, including Artificial Intelligence,  in relation to recent conferences and share information in relation to The Society of Corporate Compliance and Ethics ECEI, Consero’s Chief Ethics and Compliance Officer Forum and the upcoming Compliance Week Women in Compliance Summit which will be held in Atlanta in June.  Check out the details and get yourself registered here to see Team GWIC speak on networking and other tips to advance your career.  The Great Women in Compliance Podcast is on the Compliance Podcast Network with a selection of other Compliance related offerings to listen in to.  If you are enjoying this episode, please rate it on your preferred podcast player to help other likeminded Ethics and Compliance professionals find it.  If you have a moment to leave a review at the same time, Mary and Lisa would be so grateful.  You can also find the GWIC podcast on Corporate Compliance Insights where Lisa and Mary have a landing page with additional information about them and the story of the podcast.  Corporate Compliance Insights is a much appreciated sponsor and supporter of GWIC, including affiliate organization CCI Press publishing the related book; “Sending the Elevator Back Down, What We’ve Learned from Great Women in Compliance” (CCI Press, 2020). If you enjoyed the book, the GWIC team would be very grateful if you would consider rating it on Goodreads and Amazon and leaving a short review.  Don’t forget to send the elevator back down by passing on your copy to someone who you think might enjoy reading it when you’re done, or if you can’t bear parting with your copy, consider it as a holiday or appreciation gift for someone in Compliance who deserves a treat. If you enjoyed the book, the GWIC team would be very grateful if you would consider rating it on Goodreads and Amazon and leaving a short review.  Don’t forget to send the elevator back down by passing on your copy to someone who you think might enjoy reading it when you’re done, or if you can’t bear parting with your copy, consider it as a holiday or appreciation gift for someone in Compliance who deserves a treat. You can subscribe to the Great Women in Compliance podcast on any podcast player by searching for it and we welcome new subscribers to our podcast. Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here. 
4/5/202332 minutes, 8 seconds
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Amii Barnard-Bahn on Knowing Your Worth

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, hosted by Mary Shirley and Lisa Fine. Today’s guest on the Great Women in Compliance podcast is one of the groundbreaking women in the E&C field, Amii Barnard-Bahn.  Amii is a former Fortune 50 executive, the founder and CEO of Barnard-Bahn Coaching and Consulting, and recently joined Kaplan and Walker as a partner in February 2023.  She is also the author of the Promotability Index and the PI Guidebook: How the Promotability Index® Can Help You Get Ahead in Your Career.  Lisa and Amii discuss some of Amii’s recent work about listening and team building, and specifically about the importance of active listening.  She focuses on the difference between listening to understand vs. listening to respond.  They also discuss the challenges for women to speak up, and at the same time making sure you are listening and speaking effectively, and how to address this when you are working with someone who only listens to respond.  Amii has also been a leader for women executives, in her coaching and consulting work, her advocacy for women on Boards and pay equity.  Lisa and Amii discuss the compensation gap between men and women and whether women in E&C suffer from the same pay gap.  She also shares some practical tips for women to keep in mind when negotiating a compensation increase or a promotion.  You can find all the information about Amii here. The Great Women in Compliance Podcast is on the Compliance Podcast Network with a selection of other Compliance related offerings to listen in to.  If you are enjoying this episode, please rate it on your preferred podcast player to help other likeminded Ethics and Compliance professionals find it.  If you have a moment to leave a review at the same time, Mary and Lisa would be so grateful.  You can also find the GWIC podcast on Corporate Compliance Insights where Lisa and Mary have a landing page with additional information about them and the story of the podcast.  Corporate Compliance Insights is a much-appreciated sponsor and supporter of GWIC, including affiliate organization CCI Press publishing the related book; “Sending the Elevator Back Down, What We’ve Learned from Great Women in Compliance” (CCI Press, 2020).  If you enjoyed the book, the GWIC team would be very grateful if you would consider rating it on Goodreads and Amazon and leaving a short review.  Don’t forget to send the elevator back down by passing on your copy to someone who you think might enjoy reading it when you’re done, or if you can’t bear parting with your copy, consider it as a holiday or appreciation gift for someone in Compliance who deserves a treat. You can subscribe to the Great Women in Compliance podcast on any podcast player by searching for it and we welcome new subscribers to our podcast. Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here. 
3/15/202334 minutes, 34 seconds
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Krista Muszak-She’s Simply the Best

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, hosted by Mary Shirley and Lisa Fine. It’s fitting that for this International Women’s Day that we feature one of the brightest sparks in the Ethics and Compliance space, Krista Muszak. It can be difficult to change industries in Compliance. Some organizations look for exact industry experience and pigeonhole individuals into one track of practice. Krista is someone who manages to transition between industries with ease and offers her tips for doing so.    She shares a bit about what it’s like to focus on SOX Compliance, as she did in her previous role and now on Mergers and Acquisitions risk, which she is doing now. Congratulations to Krista on her new role! Mary’s favorite part of this episode is when Krista talks about who she admires (spoiler alert, it’s one of the GWIC team), closely followed by a fabulous and innovative idea Krista shares to help sales folk look at Compliance from another angle that also serves the purpose of acting as a gap analysis for Compliance. You’ll want to listen to this episode to be inspired by and leverage from Krista’s creative brilliance.  Lisa and Mary wish everyone an amazing International Women’s Day. We are pleased to recognize our peers for your fierce and formidable accomplishments. Keep shining! The Great Women in Compliance Podcast is on the Compliance Podcast Network with a selection of other Compliance related offerings to listen in to.  If you are enjoying this episode, please rate it on your preferred podcast player to help other likeminded Ethics and Compliance professionals find it.  If you have a moment to leave a review at the same time, Mary and Lisa would be so grateful.  You can also find the GWIC podcast on Corporate Compliance Insights where Lisa and Mary have a landing page with additional information about them and the story of the podcast.  Corporate Compliance Insights is a much-appreciated sponsor and supporter of GWIC, including affiliate organization CCI Press publishing the related book; “Sending the Elevator Back Down, What We’ve Learned from Great Women in Compliance” (CCI Press, 2020).  If you enjoyed the book, the GWIC team would be very grateful if you would consider rating it on Goodreads and Amazon and leaving a short review.  Don’t forget to send the elevator back down by passing on your copy to someone who you think might enjoy reading it when you’re done, or if you can’t bear parting with your copy, consider it as a holiday or appreciation gift for someone in Compliance who deserves a treat. You can subscribe to the Great Women in Compliance podcast on any podcast player by searching for it and we welcome new subscribers to our podcast. Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here. 
3/8/202328 minutes, 40 seconds
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Tracy Saale-From Law Enforcement to In-House

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, hosted by Mary Shirley and Lisa Fine. In today's episode, Lisa speaks with Tracy Saale, who is Conduct Risk Management, Managing Director and Corporate Responsibility Officer at Charles Schwab.   This is her second career, and while we often hear from attorneys who have gone in-house, or were assigned to compliance, Tracy started out as a prosecutor and then at the U.S. Federal Bureau of Investigations (FBI), where she worked all over the globe, and advised in ethics and compliance during her career there. She discusses the importance of advising law enforcement officials on what is - or is not - permissible, particularly when they are dealing with criminal behavior and security issues. When she started at the FBI, they had approximately 14% women agents, and while that has increased into the 20% range, there is a way to go, so she recounts her experiences. While Tracy was a bit guarded given her experiences with corporate malfeasance, she also was impressed with Charles Schwab, and joined them in part for that. In her in-house career, she is now seeing what so many of us see - that the majority of people are trying to do the right things - a more positive side of corporate life. The Great Women in Compliance Podcast is on the Compliance Podcast Network with a selection of other Compliance related offerings to listen in to.  If you are enjoying this episode, please rate it on your preferred podcast player to help other likeminded Ethics and Compliance professionals find it.  If you have a moment to leave a review at the same time, Mary and Lisa would be so grateful.  You can also find the GWIC podcast on Corporate Compliance Insights where Lisa and Mary have a landing page with additional information about them and the story of the podcast.  Corporate Compliance Insights is a much-appreciated sponsor and supporter of GWIC, including affiliate organization CCI Press publishing the related book; “Sending the Elevator Back Down, What We’ve Learned from Great Women in Compliance” (CCI Press, 2020).  If you enjoyed the book, the GWIC team would be very grateful if you would consider rating it on Goodreads and Amazon and leaving a short review.  Don’t forget to send the elevator back down by passing on your copy to someone who you think might enjoy reading it when you’re done, or if you can’t bear parting with your copy, consider it as a holiday or appreciation gift for someone in Compliance who deserves a treat. You can subscribe to the Great Women in Compliance podcast on any podcast player by searching for it and we welcome new subscribers to our podcast. Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here. 
3/1/202323 minutes, 21 seconds
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Julie Bregnard- Moving on Up

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, hosted by Mary Shirley and Lisa Fine. The Great Women in Compliance podcast’s guest for this week is Julie Bregnard, a Compliance professional who is relatively early into her career and going places fast.  Mary interviews Julie with a special focus on the job search, as Julie has just moved into a new role after five years at her first “real” job.  As discussed in the GWIC New Year episode several weeks ago to kick off 2023, the market for certain levels of Compliance staff is extremely favorable now.  Julie and Mary share some tips for further increasing job hunter success in the search.  Julie also reflects on her time as a new graduate looking for her first job after university.  Mary asked Julie to give some tips on subject as she received a request to do an episode that is helpful to students.  Though further back in time, Mary still remembers how painful and demoralizing the search for your first professional full-time role can be and with this in mind, asked Julie to share some advice and encouragement for students on how to best stay motivated and on task throughout this time.  As a Compliance practitioner who has been instrumental in strategizing on and delivering multiple Compliance Week events to her internal stakeholders, Julie provides some insights on what she thinks makes for a good Compliance Week and takes a broader view on how you can leverage them for ongoing dialogue in an organization. The Great Women in Compliance Podcast is on the Compliance Podcast Network with a selection of other Compliance related offerings to listen in to.  If you are enjoying this episode, please rate it on your preferred podcast player to help other likeminded Ethics and Compliance professionals find it.  If you have a moment to leave a review at the same time, Mary and Lisa would be so grateful.  You can also find the GWIC podcast on Corporate Compliance Insights where Lisa and Mary have a landing page with additional information about them and the story of the podcast.  Corporate Compliance Insights is a much-appreciated sponsor and supporter of GWIC, including affiliate organization CCI Press publishing the related book; “Sending the Elevator Back Down, What We’ve Learned from Great Women in Compliance” (CCI Press, 2020).  If you enjoyed the book, the GWIC team would be very grateful if you would consider rating it on Goodreads and Amazon and leaving a short review.  Don’t forget to send the elevator back down by passing on your copy to someone who you think might enjoy reading it when you’re done, or if you can’t bear parting with your copy, consider it as a holiday or appreciation gift for someone in Compliance who deserves a treat. You can subscribe to the Great Women in Compliance podcast on any podcast player by searching for it and we welcome new subscribers to our podcast. Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here. 
2/22/202324 minutes, 52 seconds
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Jen Hoar on Corporate Intelligence

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, hosted by Mary Shirley and Lisa Fine. Have you ever wondered about corporate intelligence?  What it means, how it is done, and how it relates to our work in ethics and compliance.  In today's episode, Lisa speaks with Jen Hoar, who is a Managing Director at Forward Risk and Intelligence.  Jen calls herself a "recovering journalist," and reflects on how that career path brought her to where she is today. Lisa and Jen discuss what corporate and human source intelligence are, and the strategies she uses to obtain relevant information.  She also explains the distinction between corporate intelligence and corporate espionage.  They talk about the art of interviewing in her world, and how it is similar - and different - to internal investigations and what many of us do.  Jen also provides some great tips and advice for talking to and connecting with people.   A special thank you to Kelly Paxton for this recommendation, and if you haven't listened to her podcast, "Fraudish," you should definitely check it out. The Great Women in Compliance Podcast is on the Compliance Podcast Network with a selection of other Compliance related offerings to listen in to.  If you are enjoying this episode, please rate it on your preferred podcast player to help other likeminded Ethics and Compliance professionals find it.  If you have a moment to leave a review at the same time, Mary and Lisa would be so grateful.  You can also find the GWIC podcast on Corporate Compliance Insights where Lisa and Mary have a landing page with additional information about them and the story of the podcast.  Corporate Compliance Insights is a much-appreciated sponsor and supporter of GWIC, including affiliate organization CCI Press publishing the related book; “Sending the Elevator Back Down, What We’ve Learned from Great Women in Compliance”(CCI Press, 2020).  If you enjoyed the book, the GWIC team would be very grateful if you would consider rating it on Goodreads and Amazon and leaving a short review.  Don’t forget to send the elevator back down by passing on your copy to someone who you think might enjoy reading it when you’re done, or if you can’t bear parting with your copy, consider it as a holiday or appreciation gift for someone in Compliance who deserves a treat. You can subscribe to the Great Women in Compliance podcast on any podcast player by searching for it and we welcome new subscribers to our podcast. Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here. 
2/15/202331 minutes, 13 seconds
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Ellen Smith-Trade Compliance

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, hosted by Mary Shirley and Lisa Fine. Today’s episode on Trade Compliance, with Ellen Smith, is a celebration of male allyship. Ellen was nominated to be on the Great Women in Compliance podcast by Matt Silverman. It is always a joy for Lisa and Mary to see men supporting women and leveraging off the #GWIC podcast to achieve this goal.  Ellen joins Mary and walks us through some Trade Compliance hot topics of the moment and helps us understand what boycotts are and how they fit into the Trade Compliance landscape. She also shares her journey about how she came to specialize in this subject matter area and tell us about hanging her own shingle in the space. One other way you can improve your workplace is with employee recognition, and Mary's "Living Your Best Compliance Life" column at Corporate Compliance Insights can provide some great insights on the benefits of doing so and some ideas that can brighten someone's day.  The Great Women in Compliance Podcast is on the Compliance Podcast Network with a selection of other Compliance related offerings to listen in to.  If you are enjoying this episode, please rate it on your preferred podcast player to help other likeminded Ethics and Compliance professionals find it.  If you have a moment to leave a review at the same time, Mary and Lisa would be so grateful.  You can also find the GWIC podcast on Corporate Compliance Insights where Lisa and Mary have a landing page with additional information about them and the story of the podcast.  Corporate Compliance Insights is a much-appreciated sponsor and supporter of GWIC, including affiliate organization CCI Press publishing the related book; “Sending the Elevator Back Down, What We’ve Learned from Great Women in Compliance” (CCI Press, 2020).  If you enjoyed the book, the GWIC team would be very grateful if you would consider rating it on Goodreads and Amazon and leaving a short review.  Don’t forget to send the elevator back down by passing on your copy to someone who you think might enjoy reading it when you’re done, or if you can’t bear parting with your copy, consider it as a holiday or appreciation gift for someone in Compliance who deserves a treat. You can subscribe to the Great Women in Compliance podcast on any podcast player by searching for it and we welcome new subscribers to our podcast. Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here. 
2/8/202322 minutes, 30 seconds
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Ellen Hunt with the 2023 Hunt Report

If CEOs have Larry Fink's Annual Letter to CEOs, then Lisa has Ellen Hunt's "Hunt Report."  Ellen is Principal Consultant Advisor at Spark Compliance and is well known as a mentor and advocate to many in the E&C community. Ellen has finished her first year as a "Sparkie," and will update us on how that is going and what she is seeing and learning through her work.  For the past few years, Lisa and Ellen have talked about retaliation and what we can do better to protect people who raise concerns and those who are witnesses in investigations.  While we have seen some improvements, there is still a long way to go.  They also look at this in light of organizational justice and our workplaces. They also continue the discussions of the past few weeks about kindness, fairness and equality, and how these impact our programs.  This can impact how we collaborate with DEI and ESG teams, to ensure ethical workplaces. One other way you can improve your workplace is with employee recognition, and Mary's "Living Your Best Compliance Life" column at Corporate Compliance Insights can provide some great insights on the benefits of doing so and some ideas that can brighten someone's day.  The Great Women in Compliance Podcast is on the Compliance Podcast Network with a selection of other Compliance related offerings to listen in to.  If you are enjoying this episode, please rate it on your preferred podcast player to help other likeminded Ethics and Compliance professionals find it.  If you have a moment to leave a review at the same time, Mary and Lisa would be so grateful.  You can also find the GWIC podcast on Corporate Compliance Insights where Lisa and Mary have a landing page with additional information about them and the story of the podcast.  Corporate Compliance Insights is a much-appreciated sponsor and supporter of GWIC, including affiliate organization CCI Press publishing the related book; “Sending the Elevator Back Down, What We’ve Learned from Great Women in Compliance” (CCI Press, 2020).  If you enjoyed the book, the GWIC team would be very grateful if you would consider rating it on Goodreads and Amazon and leaving a short review.  Don’t forget to send the elevator back down by passing on your copy to someone who you think might enjoy reading it when you’re done, or if you can’t bear parting with your copy, consider it as a holiday or appreciation gift for someone in Compliance who deserves a treat. You can subscribe to the Great Women in Compliance podcast on any podcast player by searching for it and we welcome new subscribers to our podcast. Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here. 
2/1/202327 minutes, 42 seconds
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Kerry Sorvino-a Wealth of Experience

Axiom is a company that outsources legal and compliance professionals to client companies to help them with temporary cover – essentially a placements of secondments.  Kerry works with Axiom and Mary, who has always been curious about Axiom, took the opportunity to find out what this working arrangement is like.  They journey to earlier on in Kerry’s career before Compliance as an employment law professional and how that background and skillset lends well to Compliance.  Kerry’s wheelhouse now is life sciences and she shares particular risks for Compliance Officers working in that industry.  Listen in as well for what Kerry advises Compliance Officers should be thinking strategically about at the moment and she shares her favorite motivational quote. The Great Women in Compliance Podcast is on the Compliance Podcast Network with a selection of other Compliance related offerings to listen in to.  If you are enjoying this episode, please rate it on your preferred podcast player to help other likeminded Ethics and Compliance professionals find it.  If you have a moment to leave a review at the same time, Mary and Lisa would be so grateful.  You can also find the GWIC podcast on Corporate Compliance Insights where Lisa and Mary have a landing page with additional information about them and the story of the podcast.  Corporate Compliance Insights is a much-appreciated sponsor and supporter of GWIC, including affiliate organization CCI Press publishing the related book; “Sending the Elevator Back Down, What We’ve Learned from Great Women in Compliance” (CCI Press, 2020).  If you enjoyed the book, the GWIC team would be very grateful if you would consider rating it on Goodreads and Amazon and leaving a short review.  Don’t forget to send the elevator back down by passing on your copy to someone who you think might enjoy reading it when you’re done, or if you can’t bear parting with your copy, consider it as a holiday or appreciation gift for someone in Compliance who deserves a treat. You can subscribe to the Great Women in Compliance podcast on any podcast player by searching for it and we welcome new subscribers to our podcast. Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here. 
1/25/202325 minutes, 21 seconds
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Amy Schuh on Kind vs. Nice: How to Build a Compliance Function

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley and to the new GWIC year. Many of us, especially women, think about the importance of being nice and kind, but have you thought about the differences between those two concepts? And is it a problem to be nice at work? In this episode, Lisa speaks with Amy Schuh, a partner at Morgan Lewis, talks about the distinction – and how being nice works only when things are going well, and being kind also includes being genuine, supporting your team and is critical to building a successful compliance function. In particular, she talks about an article Reasons to stop being nice at work (fastcompany.com) which is incredibly thought provoking.    Amy sees her career path as a “jungle gym,” where she has moved between law firms to legal and compliance roles in large companies, and has successfully avoided monitors. She shares her experiences in both, and how they have influenced her current work and how she built her career. Lisa and Amy also talk about how they connect and build trust in relationships, and how to build and retain strong teams, particularly with the concept of fairness to employees. Spoiler alert: treating everyone equally isn’t the same as being fair. That concept is included in Hiring Wisdom: Top 10 Ways to Guarantee Your Best People Will Quit – TLNT.  The ”homework” that Lisa did to speak with Amy in those two articles are now a part of Lisa’s library…which also includes Mary Shirley’s Corporate Compliance Insights monthly column. The Great Women in Compliance Podcast is on the Compliance Podcast Network with a selection of other Compliance related offerings to listen in to.  If you are enjoying this episode, please rate it on your preferred podcast player to help other likeminded Ethics and Compliance professionals find it.  If you have a moment to leave a review at the same time, Mary and Lisa would be so grateful.  You can also find the GWIC podcast on Corporate Compliance Insights where Lisa and Mary have a landing page with additional information about them and the story of the podcast.  Corporate Compliance Insights is a much-appreciated sponsor and supporter of GWIC, including affiliate organization CCI Press publishing the related book; “Sending the Elevator Back Down, What We’ve Learned from Great Women in Compliance” (CCI Press, 2020).  If you enjoyed the book, the GWIC team would be very grateful if you would consider rating it on Goodreads and Amazon and leaving a short review.  Don’t forget to send the elevator back down by passing on your copy to someone who you think might enjoy reading it when you’re done, or if you can’t bear parting with your copy, consider it as a holiday or appreciation gift for someone in Compliance who deserves a treat. You can subscribe to the Great Women in Compliance podcast on any podcast player by searching for it and we welcome new subscribers to our podcast. Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here. 
1/18/202330 minutes, 50 seconds
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New Year’s Resolutions: A Conversation with the Compliance Community

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley and to the new GWIC year. Mary and Lisa are back, and looking forward to another season of interesting discussions with fabulous people where we can learn, talk and build our community.  We are always looking to continue these discussions, so please reach out to us, and don't miss Mary's monthly column on Corporate Compliance Insights called "Living Your Best Compliance Life." In this episode, Lisa and Mary kick off the year with a New Year's Resolution themed-episode discussing what compliance officers should commit to, focus on and/or prioritize in 2023.   They discuss various substantive issues, such as the DOJ statements on ephemeral communications, what they understand and how much they are looking forward to the forthcoming guidance. Mary also discusses some of the recent cases and developments at the end of 2022, and Lisa includes her thoughts about the intersection of ESG and Compliance.  They also discuss the future of remote work in compliance, and how that is impacting the job market. No Mary and Lisa discussion is not complete without some work/life comments and resolutions, so those will be shared as well.  As always, they include the hope that everyone is sending the elevator back down.  The Great Women in Compliance Podcast is on the Compliance Podcast Network with a selection of other Compliance related offerings to listen in to.  If you are enjoying this episode, please rate it on your preferred podcast player to help other likeminded Ethics and Compliance professionals find it.  If you have a moment to leave a review at the same time, Mary and Lisa would be so grateful.  You can also find the GWIC podcast on Corporate Compliance Insights where Lisa and Mary have a landing page with additional information about them and the story of the podcast.  Corporate Compliance Insights is a much-appreciated sponsor and supporter of GWIC, including affiliate organization CCI Press publishing the related book; “Sending the Elevator Back Down, What We’ve Learned from Great Women in Compliance” (CCI Press, 2020).  If you enjoyed the book, the GWIC team would be very grateful if you would consider rating it on Goodreads and Amazon and leaving a short review.  Don’t forget to send the elevator back down by passing on your copy to someone who you think might enjoy reading it when you’re done, or if you can’t bear parting with your copy, consider it as a holiday or appreciation gift for someone in Compliance who deserves a treat. You can subscribe to the Great Women in Compliance podcast on any podcast player by searching for it and we welcome new subscribers to our podcast. Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here. 
1/11/202335 minutes, 17 seconds
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Karina Vollmer – Making Friends and Influencing People

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley. One of the most critical aspects of the role of a Compliance Officer is establishing the reputation of the function as being one which is approachable and reliable.  One of the colleagues Mary has admired the most in being successful in this respect, is Karina Vollmer.  The two worked together at Tata Communications in Singapore and take a walk down memory lane to share some thoughts from the past that allow introverts like Mary to learn from extroverts like Karina.  Karina is originally from Indonesia and takes the opportunity to share with the GWIC audience some of the unique cultural aspects of the country that may impact the role of global compliance officers in multi-national corporations. As a mother of two and a Chief Compliance Officer, Karina has a lot going on.  Her discussion builds on an earlier podcast episode with Sue Scott (Great Women in Compliance episode #173) where she addresses the common issue of mum/mom guilt.  The Great Women in Compliance Podcast is on the Compliance Podcast Network with a selection of other Compliance related offerings to listen in to.  If you are enjoying this episode, please rate it on your preferred podcast player to help other likeminded Ethics and Compliance professionals find it.  If you have a moment to leave a review at the same time, Mary and Lisa would be so grateful.  You can also find the GWIC podcast on Corporate Compliance Insights where Lisa and Mary have a landing page with additional information about them and the story of the podcast.  Corporate Compliance Insights is a much-appreciated sponsor and supporter of GWIC, including affiliate organization CCI Press publishing the related book; “Sending the Elevator Back Down, What We’ve Learned from Great Women in Compliance” (CCI Press, 2020).  If you enjoyed the book, the GWIC team would be very grateful if you would consider rating it on Goodreads and Amazon and leaving a short review.  Don’t forget to send the elevator back down by passing on your copy to someone who you think might enjoy reading it when you’re done, or if you can’t bear parting with your copy, consider it as a holiday or appreciation gift for someone in Compliance who deserves a treat. You can subscribe to the Great Women in Compliance podcast on any podcast player by searching for it and we welcome new subscribers to our podcast. Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here. 
12/21/202223 minutes, 46 seconds
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Jacki Cheslow – Bringing Life to a Compliance Program

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley. One of the best things about the longevity of the GWIC podcast is that Mary and Lisa get to build some of their own ideas and traditions.  Some are things like "bonus episodes" - a great idea by Mary, the #GWICies, and one of Lisa's, which is to do her last podcast interview of the year with someone who is not only a leader in the E&C community due to her expertise, but also someone who is always a mentor and support to so many people (including Lisa).  This year, Lisa is speaking with Jacki Cheslow, who was on the podcast a few years back and since then has moved from a large corporate organization, Avis/Budget, to the Institute of Electrical and Electronic Engineers - the IEEE, which is the world's largest non-profit technical organization. Jackie talks about her experience with IEEE as a mission-driven organization, which is to develop technology to benefit humanity, and how that influences her role.  She also talks about starting out at IEEE and needed to learn a whole new area, sanctions, which then became even more important than she would have anticipated.  Jacki also shares how she had a bit of imposter syndrome when she started at IEEE,  She provides  valuable insight in how to change one's mindset from a fixed mindset to a growth mindset and how that can also change one's view that they are given the opportunity to learn new things as recognition of one's potential and being open to learning. The Great Women in Compliance Podcast is on the Compliance Podcast Network with a selection of other Compliance related offerings to listen in to.  If you are enjoying this episode, please rate it on your preferred podcast player to help other likeminded Ethics and Compliance professionals find it.  If you have a moment to leave a review at the same time, Mary and Lisa would be so grateful.  You can also find the GWIC podcast on Corporate Compliance Insights where Lisa and Mary have a landing page with additional information about them and the story of the podcast.  Corporate Compliance Insights is a much-appreciated sponsor and supporter of GWIC, including affiliate organization CCI Press publishing the related book; “Sending the Elevator Back Down, What We’ve Learned from Great Women in Compliance” (CCI Press, 2020).  If you enjoyed the book, the GWIC team would be very grateful if you would consider rating it on Goodreads and Amazon and leaving a short review.  Don’t forget to send the elevator back down by passing on your copy to someone who you think might enjoy reading it when you’re done, or if you can’t bear parting with your copy, consider it as a holiday or appreciation gift for someone in Compliance who deserves a treat. You can subscribe to the Great Women in Compliance podcast on any podcast player by searching for it and we welcome new subscribers to our podcast. Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here. 
12/13/202228 minutes, 43 seconds
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Kortney Nordrum-Social Media and Compliance

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley. One of the things about social media is that it is always changing and always a challenge for us to address in ethics and compliance.  Today, Lisa is speaking with Kortney Nordrum, VP, Regulatory Counsel and Chief Compliance Officer at Deluxe.  Kortney has been a thought leader in this area through many changes, or as Lisa thinks of it, "from Facebook to TikTok." In this wide-ranging discussion, Kortney provides insight on how to develop effective policies to address the use of social media, particularly if there are inappropriate statements.  She talks about the importance of constantly adapting to changes, and how we can use social media in our field.  She also shares her views about ephemeral communications like WhatsApp and WeChat, and how to address the concerns that they raise. These days, no conversation about social media and compliance would not be complete without a discussion of Twitter.  Kortney gives her perspective what has happened since Elon Musk took over as well as Twitter's historic issues with hate speech and incendiary accounts and what we can learn from this as E&C professionals. The Great Women in Compliance Podcast is on the Compliance Podcast Network with a selection of other Compliance related offerings to listen in to.  If you are enjoying this episode, please rate it on your preferred podcast player to help other likeminded Ethics and Compliance professionals find it.  If you have a moment to leave a review at the same time, Mary and Lisa would be so grateful.  You can also find the GWIC podcast on Corporate Compliance Insights where Lisa and Mary have a landing page with additional information about them and the story of the podcast.  Corporate Compliance Insights is a much-appreciated sponsor and supporter of GWIC, including affiliate organization CCI Press publishing the related book; “Sending the Elevator Back Down, What We’ve Learned from Great Women in Compliance” (CCI Press, 2020).  If you enjoyed the book, the GWIC team would be very grateful if you would consider rating it on Goodreads and Amazon and leaving a short review.  Don’t forget to send the elevator back down by passing on your copy to someone who you think might enjoy reading it when you’re done, or if you can’t bear parting with your copy, consider it as a holiday or appreciation gift for someone in Compliance who deserves a treat. You can subscribe to the Great Women in Compliance podcast on any podcast player by searching for it and we welcome new subscribers to our podcast. Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here. 
12/7/202227 minutes, 53 seconds
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Sue Scott-From Compliance to Coaching

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley. This week we feature another life after Compliance story with Sue Scott.  Sue, originally from South Africa and currently residing in the United Kingdom, is a Compliance veteran with 20 years of experience at HSBC. But this episode doesn’t focus on financial services Compliance, instead we hear Sue’s journey as she considered moving away from Compliance and trying something new.  Mary asks her about her thought process and considerations in making such a big life decision and Sue shares what some of the biggest challenges are for clients at the moment (we’re willing to bet the majority of the Great Women in Compliance audience will find something here relatable – mom/mum guilt anyone?) and Sue shares some coaching advice for how to address some of these issues.  If you’ve been thinking about getting into coaching, moving into a new area or simply advance planning for your future, this episode will provide helpful considerations and inspiration for taking the big leap – or preparing to do so at least! For those of you who find that mom/mum guilt is something that resonates deeply, keep an eye out for our upcoming episode with Karina Vollmer where we dive into that challenge in further detail with advice from Karina, a Chief Compliance Officer working mum, or mom as she would say. The Great Women in Compliance Podcast is on the Compliance Podcast Network with a selection of other Compliance related offerings to listen in to.  If you are enjoying this episode, please rate it on your preferred podcast player to help other likeminded Ethics and Compliance professionals find it.  If you have a moment to leave a review at the same time, Mary and Lisa would be so grateful.  You can also find the GWIC podcast on Corporate Compliance Insights where Lisa and Mary have a landing page with additional information about them and the story of the podcast.  Corporate Compliance Insights is a much-appreciated sponsor and supporter of GWIC, including affiliate organization CCI Press publishing the related book; “Sending the Elevator Back Down, What We’ve Learned from Great Women in Compliance” (CCI Press, 2020).  If you enjoyed the book, the GWIC team would be very grateful if you would consider rating it on Goodreads and Amazon and leaving a short review.  Don’t forget to send the elevator back down by passing on your copy to someone who you think might enjoy reading it when you’re done, or if you can’t bear parting with your copy, consider it as a holiday or appreciation gift for someone in Compliance who deserves a treat. You can subscribe to the Great Women in Compliance podcast on any podcast player by searching for it and we welcome new subscribers to our podcast. Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here. 
11/30/202224 minutes, 53 seconds
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Harper Wells-Training Update

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley. We have not done a training episode in a while so this week we invited Harper Wells, Chief Compliance Officer of Learning Pool, to share her insights as a Compliance expert working for a training company. Harper shares what it's like being a CCO within a service provider and then takes us on a journey of the latest and greatest elements of training in Ethics and Compliance programs.  Harper and Mary address some considerations on the potentially controversial topic of testing out of Compliance training. We end this episode with some advice and encouragement for non lawyers like Harper, with their eye on the prize for a CCO role. The Great Women in Compliance Podcast is on the Compliance Podcast Network with a selection of other Compliance related offerings to listen in to.  If you are enjoying this episode, please rate it on your preferred podcast player to help other likeminded Ethics and Compliance professionals find it.  If you have a moment to leave a review at the same time, Mary and Lisa would be so grateful.  You can also find the GWIC podcast on Corporate Compliance Insights where Lisa and Mary have a landing page with additional information about them and the story of the podcast.  Corporate Compliance Insights is a much-appreciated sponsor and supporter of GWIC, including affiliate organization CCI Press publishing the related book; “Sending the Elevator Back Down, What We’ve Learned from Great Women in Compliance” (CCI Press, 2020).  If you enjoyed the book, the GWIC team would be very grateful if you would consider rating it on Goodreads and Amazon and leaving a short review.  Don’t forget to send the elevator back down by passing on your copy to someone who you think might enjoy reading it when you’re done, or if you can’t bear parting with your copy, consider it as a holiday or appreciation gift for someone in Compliance who deserves a treat. You can subscribe to the Great Women in Compliance podcast on any podcast player by searching for it and we welcome new subscribers to our podcast. Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here. 
11/23/202231 minutes, 19 seconds
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Joelle Thorne-Peters - Be Audit You Can Be

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley. This week we are pleased to feature Joelle Thorne-Peters who is a Compliance Audit expert.  She shares with us her thoughts on what Compliance audit is about, what to look for when hiring audit professionals and commentary on the enjoyable phrase "You don't have to be a clown to audit the circus". She also shares some perennial issues that are always worth keeping in mind as stones to turn over, an emerging risk for our radars, espouses a view on where Compliance audit should sit in the organization and thoughts on how Compliance can better work with internal audit. The Great Women in Compliance Podcast is on the Compliance Podcast Network with a selection of other Compliance related offerings to listen in to.  If you are enjoying this episode, please rate it on your preferred podcast player to help other likeminded Ethics and Compliance professionals find it.  If you have a moment to leave a review at the same time, Mary and Lisa would be so grateful.  You can also find the GWIC podcast on Corporate Compliance Insights where Lisa and Mary have a landing page with additional information about them and the story of the podcast.  Corporate Compliance Insights is a much-appreciated sponsor and supporter of GWIC, including affiliate organization CCI Press publishing the related book; “Sending the Elevator Back Down, What We’ve Learned from Great Women in Compliance” (CCI Press, 2020).  If you enjoyed the book, the GWIC team would be very grateful if you would consider rating it on Goodreads and Amazon and leaving a short review.  Don’t forget to send the elevator back down by passing on your copy to someone who you think might enjoy reading it when you’re done, or if you can’t bear parting with your copy, consider it as a holiday or appreciation gift for someone in Compliance who deserves a treat. You can subscribe to the Great Women in Compliance podcast on any podcast player by searching for it and we welcome new subscribers to our podcast. Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here. 
11/16/202229 minutes, 12 seconds
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All Star Women Monitors, Part 2

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley. Today is the second part of a 2-part series that we have been planning for a while, and the timing turned out to be perfect.  Lisa is speaking with an all-star panel of Audrey Harris, Bethany Hengsbach and Dionne Lomax,  Managing Directors from Affiliated Monitors.  Audrey’s area is  Global Anticorruption, Compliance, Ethics & Non–Financial Risk, Bethany focuses on Global Corporate Compliance, with a focus on healthcare, and Dionne works in Antitrust and Trade Regulation, as well as being a professor at Boston University. The timing for this series turned out perfectly, as the group was able to get into an in-depth discussion about Lisa Monaco’s statements in September about the Monaco Doctrine and some of their key takeaways.  In Part 2, the group discusses the statements about compensation and clawbacks, and the importance of appropriate resources, among other topics. They also provide their individual perspectives on two other topics that many of us discuss.  One is the reporting line for CECOs, and the importance of a direct line to the Board or Audit Committees.  The other is the certification of Corporate Compliance programs by CEOs and CECOs. The entire discussion was extremely insightful, filled with practical ideas and good tips for everyone who is trying to build and/or maintain a program.  Listen to Part 1 here. The Great Women in Compliance Podcast is on the Compliance Podcast Network with a selection of other Compliance related offerings to listen in to.  If you are enjoying this episode, please rate it on your preferred podcast player to help other likeminded Ethics and Compliance professionals find it.  If you have a moment to leave a review at the same time, Mary and Lisa would be so grateful.  You can also find the GWIC podcast on Corporate Compliance Insights where Lisa and Mary have a landing page with additional information about them and the story of the podcast.  Corporate Compliance Insights is a much-appreciated sponsor and supporter of GWIC, including affiliate organization CCI Press publishing the related book; “Sending the Elevator Back Down, What We’ve Learned from Great Women in Compliance” (CCI Press, 2020).  If you enjoyed the book, the GWIC team would be very grateful if you would consider rating it on Goodreads and Amazon and leaving a short review.  Don’t forget to send the elevator back down by passing on your copy to someone who you think might enjoy reading it when you’re done, or if you can’t bear parting with your copy, consider it as a holiday or appreciation gift for someone in Compliance who deserves a treat. You can subscribe to the Great Women in Compliance podcast on any podcast player by searching for it and we welcome new subscribers to our podcast. Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here. 
11/9/202231 minutes, 46 seconds
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All Star Women Monitors

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley. Today is the first part of a 2-part series that we have been planning for a while, and the timing turned out to be perfect. Lisa is speaking with an all-star panel of Audrey Harris, Bethany Hengsbach and Dionne Lomax,  Managing Directors from Affiliated Monitors.  Audrey’s area is  Global Anticorruption, Compliance, Ethics & Non–Financial Risk, Bethany focuses on Global Corporate Compliance, with a focus on healthcare, and Dionne works in Antitrust and Trade Regulation, as well as being a professor at Boston University.   In Part 1, we get to hear more about their backgrounds and the road to their current roles.  They also explain more about work as a monitor, including how they are appointed, what they do as monitors, and the field in general.  They also share their experiences in reviewing programs and what impresses them when they are assessing a program, and, conversely, what concerns them. They also provide advice for women who want to get into the field, and some of the things they have learned.  The Great Women in Compliance Podcast is on the Compliance Podcast Network with a selection of other Compliance related offerings to listen in to.  If you are enjoying this episode, please rate it on your preferred podcast player to help other likeminded Ethics and Compliance professionals find it.  If you have a moment to leave a review at the same time, Mary and Lisa would be so grateful.  You can also find the GWIC podcast on Corporate Compliance Insights where Lisa and Mary have a landing page with additional information about them and the story of the podcast.  Corporate Compliance Insights is a much appreciated sponsor and supporter of GWIC, including affiliate organization CCI Press publishing the related book; “Sending the Elevator Back Down, What We’ve Learned from Great Women in Compliance” (CCI Press, 2020).  If you enjoyed the book, the GWIC team would be very grateful if you would consider rating it on Goodreads and Amazon and leaving a short review.  Don’t forget to send the elevator back down by passing on your copy to someone who you think might enjoy reading it when you’re done, or if you can’t bear parting with your copy, consider it as a holiday or appreciation gift for someone in Compliance who deserves a treat. You can subscribe to the Great Women in Compliance podcast on any podcast player by searching for it and we welcome new subscribers to our podcast. Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here. 
11/2/202231 minutes, 45 seconds
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SCCE Roundup with Lisa and Mary

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley. The 2022 Society of Corporate Compliance and Ethics, Compliance and Ethics Institute took place last week in Phoenix, Arizona.  There was a mix of both in person and virtual attendees with a person presence significantly bolstered compared with the 2021 crowd, the first in person ECI since the pandemic hit.  In 2023 it really felt like things were back and the Great Women in Compliance podcast hosts, Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley, debrief listeners with a roundup of highlights and musings from the conference, as well as handing out a few prized GWICies.  Lisa and Mary both critically analyze some aspects of the conference and sessions, as well as take their usual lighthearted and informal approach to discussing what they thought went well, where there were areas of opportunity, surprises and how they each dealt with unforeseen challenges – from the beginning of the conference and throughout – including Lisa’s hangry misfortune and Mary nearly causing an international incident at a piano bar.  Join us for this special joint episode and re-live the conference for those that attended and cure your FOMO for those who were unable to make it.  The Great Women in Compliance Podcast is on the Compliance Podcast Network with a selection of other Compliance related offerings to listen in to.  If you are enjoying this episode, please rate it on your preferred podcast player to help other likeminded Ethics and Compliance professionals find it.  If you have a moment to leave a review at the same time, Mary and Lisa would be so grateful.  You can also find the GWIC podcast on Corporate Compliance Insights where Lisa and Mary have a landing page with additional information about them and the story of the podcast.  Corporate Compliance Insights is a much appreciated sponsor and supporter of GWIC, including affiliate organization CCI Press publishing the related book; “Sending the Elevator Back Down, What We’ve Learned from Great Women in Compliance” (CCI Press, 2020).  If you enjoyed the book, the GWIC team would be very grateful if you would consider rating it on Goodreads and Amazon and leaving a short review.  Don’t forget to send the elevator back down by passing on your copy to someone who you think might enjoy reading it when you’re done, or if you can’t bear parting with your copy, consider it as a holiday or appreciation gift for someone in Compliance who deserves a treat. You can subscribe to the Great Women in Compliance podcast on any podcast player by searching for it and we welcome new subscribers to our podcast. Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here. 
10/26/202232 minutes, 22 seconds
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GWIC x The Ethics Experts-Lisa’s Episode

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley.  As Lisa and Mary prepare for the end of 2022 with their fall hiatus, they thought they would mix it up by posting their Ethics Experts episodes.  We've heard from Mary, and now it's Lisa's turn.  In 2021, Lisa finally met Nick Gallo in person at the SCCE conference, and they talk about how they became "conference BFFs."  In the episode, they talk about the importance of ethical decision-making and how to empower employees to do that.  In particular, they also discuss how to grow and stretch yourself by doing things that scare you, and that's where Lisa committed to her annual solo episode. The release date is also the last day of the 2022 SCCE CEI, and Mary and Lisa will be back next week with their joint episode which will include some event highlights. The Great Women in Compliance podcast is excited to look at topics like this one, and we are always open to suggestions for guests. The Great Women in Compliance Podcast is on the Compliance Podcast Network with a selection of other Compliance related offerings.  If you are enjoying this episode, please rate it on your preferred podcast player to help other likeminded Ethics and Compliance professionals find it.  If you have a moment to leave a review at the same time, Mary and Lisa would be so grateful.  You can also find the GWIC podcast on Corporate Compliance Insights where Lisa and Mary have a landing page with additional information about them and the story of the podcast.  Corporate Compliance Insights is a much-appreciated sponsor and supporter of GWIC, including affiliate organization CCI Press publishing the related book; “Sending the Elevator Back Down, What We’ve Learned from Great Women in Compliance” (CCI Press, 2020). If you enjoyed the book, the GWIC team would be very grateful if you would consider rating it on Goodreads and Amazon and leaving a short review. You can subscribe to the Great Women in Compliance podcast on any podcast player by searching for it and we welcome new subscribers to our podcast. Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here. 
10/19/202243 minutes, 35 seconds
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GWIC x The Ethics Experts-Mary’s Episode

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley.  For the next two weeks, the GWIC team are presenting a collab with ComplianceLine: GWIC X The Ethics Experts!  Mary and Lisa start their throwback Wednesday sessions by harking all the way back to the early days of COVID19, where Mary’s episode was recorded while she was in the New Zealand coronavirus lockdown. Gio Gallo interviewed Mary about her leadership style – especially focused on giving (junior) staff substantive, meaningful work and wings to fly while setting out a safety net, how not to slip into complacency in your Compliance program by being reassured of historical achievements and understanding that there is no lowest common denominator.  Learn how you can use surveys to tap into your most vulnerable areas you don’t even know you have.  Check out Lisa’s interview on the Ethics Experts, here on the Great Women in Compliance Podcast on 19 October!  On 26 October, Mary and Lisa will return to their regular programming with a joint episode on learnings, insights and observations from the Society of Corporate Compliance and Ethics Compliance and Ethics Institute.  Want to be a part of the fun?  Introduce yourself to Lisa and Mary at the conference – you’ll be able to spot them by their GWIC tote bags that Lisa kindly procured for the duo. The Great Women in Compliance podcast is excited to look at topics like this one, and we are always open to suggestions for guests. The Great Women in Compliance Podcast is on the Compliance Podcast Network with a selection of other Compliance related offerings.  If you are enjoying this episode, please rate it on your preferred podcast player to help other likeminded Ethics and Compliance professionals find it.  If you have a moment to leave a review at the same time, Mary and Lisa would be so grateful.  You can also find the GWIC podcast on Corporate Compliance Insights where Lisa and Mary have a landing page with additional information about them and the story of the podcast.  Corporate Compliance Insights is a much-appreciated sponsor and supporter of GWIC, including affiliate organization CCI Press publishing the related book; “Sending the Elevator Back Down, What We’ve Learned from Great Women in Compliance” (CCI Press, 2020). If you enjoyed the book, the GWIC team would be very grateful if you would consider rating it on Goodreads and Amazon and leaving a short review. You can subscribe to the Great Women in Compliance podcast on any podcast player by searching for it and we welcome new subscribers to our podcast. Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here. 
10/12/202240 minutes, 4 seconds
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Margarita Derelanko - She’s Going Places

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley. In late 2018, Mary and Lisa began advertising the launch of the Great Women in Compliance podcast, which would air on 6 December 2018. Margarita Derelanko was one of the people who saw the marketing collateral and grew excited about the incoming podcast. She affords Lisa and Mary the opportunity to hear what the launch of the podcast was like from the other side of the fence – the to-date missing aspect of their origin story – what the listenership was thinking and how the podcast was received. Margarita shares how the podcast has impacted her life, including her takeaways from having her first article published, and the benefits she has gained from the encouragement of the hosts and guests. Unlike many of the GWIC and certainly unlike Mary and Lisa, Margarita had the opportunity to choose whether or not to be in Compliance and she shares what it’s like for the new generation to consider joining the field – spoiler alert, Compliance Destiny appears yet again! It’s a real thing folks! Margarita shares some advice for helping to overcome biases when you don’t look like you fit the part. She is of very small stature and is lucky enough to have youthful looks – causing some to make unfair judgments. Listen in for how she overcomes the biases and consider how you can turn some of your perceived greatest weaknesses into a strength. Following on from Mia Reini’s tips for putting together an engaging line up for the The Home Depot’s Compliance Summit, Margarita lends some tips from her experience on the planning team for the Waud Capital Partner’s Compliance Symposium to have a successful event. The Great Women in Compliance Podcast is on the Compliance Podcast Network with a selection of other Compliance related offerings. If you are enjoying this episode, please rate it on your preferred podcast player to help other likeminded Ethics and Compliance professionals find it. If you have a moment to leave a review at the same time, Mary and Lisa would be so grateful. You can also find the GWIC podcast on Corporate Compliance Insights where Lisa and Mary have a landing page with additional information about them and the story of the podcast. Corporate Compliance Insights is a much-appreciated sponsor and supporter of GWIC, including affiliate organization CCI Press publishing the related book; “Sending the Elevator Back Down, What We’ve Learned from Great Women in Compliance” (CCI Press, 2020). If you enjoyed the book, the GWIC team would be very grateful if you would consider rating it on Goodreads and Amazon and leaving a short review. You can subscribe to the Great Women in Compliance podcast on any podcast player by searching for it and we welcome new subscribers to our podcast. Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here.
9/28/202226 minutes, 50 seconds
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Rebecca Walker on Developing and Using Risk Assessments-A Holistic Approach

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley. One of the key components of a compliance program is a risk assessment. However, how to develop the right one for your organization is an art, not a science, as is how to best use the findings and report the results. In this episode, Rebecca Walker, one of the founders of Kaplan & Walker LLP, takes a deep dive into the subject. Rebecca has been in the compliance field for over 20 years, and has always been an advocate for a holistic and well-rounded view of compliance. She speaks regularly on many topics, and here, Lisa and Rebecca talk about various aspects of risk assessments including how to tailor your risk assessment to your organization, or if you know there is a risk, do you need to then do an assessment. They also touch on the distinction between risk assessments and program assessments. Rebecca also talks about the beginning of her career in a large law firm, and the challenges of starting her own firm, both in general and as a woman. She recounts a story about her 1st day that illustrates both the fear and excitement of starting out. The Great Women in Compliance podcast is excited to look at topics like this one, and we are always open to suggestions for guests. The Great Women in Compliance Podcast is on the Compliance Podcast Network with a selection of other Compliance related offerings. If you are enjoying this episode, please rate it on your preferred podcast player to help other likeminded Ethics and Compliance professionals find it. If you have a moment to leave a review at the same time, Mary and Lisa would be so grateful. You can also find the GWIC podcast on Corporate Compliance Insights where Lisa and Mary have a landing page with additional information about them and the story of the podcast. Corporate Compliance Insights is a much-appreciated sponsor and supporter of GWIC, including affiliate organization CCI Press publishing the related book; “Sending the Elevator Back Down, What We’ve Learned from Great Women in Compliance” (CCI Press, 2020). If you enjoyed the book, the GWIC team would be very grateful if you would consider rating it on Goodreads and Amazon and leaving a short review. You can subscribe to the Great Women in Compliance podcast on any podcast player by searching for it and we welcome new subscribers to our podcast. Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here.
9/21/202229 minutes, 26 seconds
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Donna Schneider on Crucial Conversations

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley.  Even if we weren’t in Compliance, the need to hold difficult conversations is part and parcel of participating in life in the human race.  And it’s also true that Compliance Officers sometimes need to deliver bad news or talk people out of ideas they are very attached to.  These responsibilities can lead to the need to invite important stakeholders to a crucial conversation with complex emotions involved.  Donna Schneider returns to the GWIC podcast to give us a lesson on Crucial Conversations after teaching courses on this topic in the past.  Since Donna last appeared on the show, she has been busy with her Compliance portfolio and shares an update on what she’s been up to with respect to risk assessments.  Donna shares her best tips for successfully navigating difficult conversations and difficult people on the other end.  Mindset is key and Donna sets us up for success from this perspective.  She outlines some of the pitfalls that can be problematic for miscommunication and misunderstanding between people to help you avoid some of the common mistakes that are made, leading to fraught feelings.  If you’re interested in improving your communication with all stakeholders in your life and increasing successful outcomes in challenging conversations, this episode is just for you!  The Great Women in Compliance Podcast is on the Compliance Podcast Network with a selection of other Compliance related offerings to listen in to.  If you are enjoying this episode, please rate it on your preferred podcast player to help other likeminded Ethics and Compliance professionals find it.  If you have a moment to leave a review at the same time, Mary and Lisa would be so grateful.   The Great Women in Compliance Podcast is on the Compliance Podcast Network with a selection of other Compliance related offerings.  If you are enjoying this episode, please rate it on your preferred podcast player to help other likeminded Ethics and Compliance professionals find it.  If you have a moment to leave a review at the same time, Mary and Lisa would be so grateful.  You can also find the GWIC podcast on Corporate Compliance Insights where Lisa and Mary have a landing page with additional information about them and the story of the podcast.  Corporate Compliance Insights is a much-appreciated sponsor and supporter of GWIC, including affiliate organization CCI Press publishing the related book; “Sending the Elevator Back Down, What We’ve Learned from Great Women in Compliance” (CCI Press, 2020). If you enjoyed the book, the GWIC team would be very grateful if you would consider rating it on Goodreads and Amazon and leaving a short review. You can subscribe to the Great Women in Compliance podcast on any podcast player by searching for it and we welcome new subscribers to our podcast. Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here. 
9/14/202228 minutes, 48 seconds
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Megan Zwiebel - Data, Behavioral Science and the Compliance Function

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley. In this episode of Great Women in Compliance, Lisa speaks with Megan Zwiebel, who is Director of Operations & Delivery at R&G Insights Lab, which is an analytics and behavioral science practice, affiliated with the law firm Ropes & Gray. Megan started her career at a large law firm at a litigator, and used her natural curiosity and skill set to move into journalism, and now into her current role, where she and the team are helping to build innovative and practical solutions for organizations and legal practices in using data and science. In this discussion, Megan talks about how the R&G Insights Lab compliments traditional law firm work, and how it is different, with respect to supporting E&C programs. She talks about the importance of "telling the story," and how we can best use these tools to build our programs and to work cross-functionally. Like Lisa, Megan started her career at a large law firm, and they discuss some of their similar and different experiences in those first jobs, and how that impacted their work and career trajectories. She shares some of the law firm evolution she has seen, and how women in leadership is inspiring and impacts law firm culture. The Great Women in Compliance Podcast is on the Compliance Podcast Network with a selection of other Compliance related offerings to listen in to.  If you are enjoying this episode, please rate it on your preferred podcast player to help other likeminded Ethics and Compliance professionals find it.  If you have a moment to leave a review at the same time, Mary and Lisa would be so grateful. You can also find the GWIC podcast on Corporate Compliance Insights where Lisa and Mary have a landing page with additional information about them and the story of the podcast.  Corporate Compliance Insights is a much-appreciated sponsor and supporter of GWIC, including affiliate organization CCI Press publishing the related book; “Sending the Elevator Back Down, What We’ve Learned from Great Women in Compliance” (CCI Press, 2020). If you enjoyed the book, the GWIC team would be very grateful if you would consider rating it on Goodreads and Amazon and leaving a short review. You can subscribe to the Great Women in Compliance podcast on any podcast player by searching for it and we welcome new subscribers to our podcast. Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here.
9/7/202225 minutes, 51 seconds
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Ola Tucker - Focus on AML

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley. The Great Women in Compliance team are always pleased to observe progress whenever the library of Compliance offerings grows.  Ola Tucker published a book all about Anti-money laundering in July 2022, called “The Flow of Illicit Funds: A case study approach to anti-money laundering compliance” and Mary spoke with Ola about several of the topics included in the book.  Fun fact: Ola is also a contributor to GWIC work “Sending the Elevator Back Down: What We’ve Learned from Great Women in Compliance”.  Ola explains the impetus for the book, why she went with a case study approach to presenting the information, some money laundering pitfalls, the dangers of cryptocurrency in relation to AML and how AML impacts terrorist financing. The Great Women in Compliance Podcast is on the Compliance Podcast Network with a selection of other Compliance related offerings to listen in to.  If you are enjoying this episode, please rate it on your preferred podcast player to help other likeminded Ethics and Compliance professionals find it.  If you have a moment to leave a review at the same time, Mary and Lisa would be so grateful. You can also find the GWIC podcast on Corporate Compliance Insights where Lisa and Mary have a landing page with additional information about them and the story of the podcast.  Corporate Compliance Insights is a much appreciated sponsor and supporter of GWIC, including affiliate organization CCI Press publishing the related book; “Sending the Elevator Back Down, What We’ve Learned from Great Women in Compliance” (CCI Press, 2020). If you enjoyed the book, the GWIC team would be very grateful if you would consider rating it on Goodreads and Amazon and leaving a short review. You can subscribe to the Great Women in Compliance podcast on any podcast player by searching for it and we welcome new subscribers to our podcast. Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here.
8/31/202222 minutes, 30 seconds
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Lisa Fine - Do Something That Scares You

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley.  Eleanor Roosevelt (at least it is attributed to her) said "do something that scares you every day."  There have been a lot of scary things over the past few years, but the idea of leaving your comfort zone is an important one.  Last November, Lisa told Nick Gallo on the Ethics Experts podcast, that she fears doing solo episodes, and made a vow to herself that she would do that once a year.  It's August, and here is that episode. Lisa talks about a few topics.  One thing that is top of mind is what makes a great E&C leader and manager, and she goes through the things that are important to her and what she has learned from her managers and organization leaders.  Not surprisingly, being loyal, listening, and empowering team members to try new ideas are just a few of the qualities of note. Lisa had also said that she would follow along with Matt Kelly's lead and try to speak with the Blenderbot AI tool about ethics and compliance.  The discussion started with why pizza dough was important and had some highlights including that lean manufacturing is a tool to help avoid corrupt behavior, a few references to presidential pardons, and ended with blenderbot saying it also works as an attorney for a large corporation as its alter ego.  The discussion highlights the issues of using AI and bots, and shows how it is "learning" from the crowd that uses/takes it over. Lisa ends with some things on her mind in E&C as we come towards the end of 2022 , and hopes that you enjoy this episode, it makes you think, and that you will reach out with comments and thoughts.  The Great Women in Compliance Podcast is on the Compliance Podcast Network with a selection of other Compliance related offerings to listen in to.  If you are enjoying this episode, please rate it on your preferred podcast player to help other likeminded Ethics and Compliance professionals find it.  If you have a moment to leave a review at the same time, Mary and Lisa would be so grateful.  You can also find the GWIC podcast on Corporate Compliance Insights where Lisa and Mary have a landing page with additional information about them and the story of the podcast.  Corporate Compliance Insights is a much appreciated sponsor and supporter of GWIC, including affiliate organization CCI Press publishing the related book; “Sending the Elevator Back Down, What We’ve Learned from Great Women in Compliance” (CCI Press, 2020). If you enjoyed the book, the GWIC team would be very grateful if you would consider rating it on Goodreads and Amazon and leaving a short review. You can subscribe to the Great Women in Compliance podcast on any podcast player by searching for it and we welcome new subscribers to our podcast. Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here. 
8/24/202224 minutes, 46 seconds
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Deb Barrett - On Top of Her Game

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley. Deb Barrett is Chief Compliance Officer of Qualcomm.  She shares some insights of what it was like being in a company that has undergone some regulatory scrutiny.  She and Mary Shirley discuss some ways to combat Compliance fatigue – important for any company with a robust Compliance program to consider but particularly ones that have prioritized Compliance initiatives for a period of years.  The episode is rich with takeaways and ideas, including Deb’s thoughts on Compliance KPIs.  Are you planning on heading to the SCCE CEI in Phoenix in October?  Check out Lisa and Mary’s speaking sessions on the agenda and sign up!  We invite you to say hello and introduce yourself during the conference – it’s going to be a great time.  The Great Women in Compliance Podcast is on the Compliance Podcast Network with a selection of other Compliance related offerings to listen in to.  If you are enjoying this episode, please rate it on your preferred podcast player to help other likeminded Ethics and Compliance professionals find it.  If you have a moment to leave a review at the same time, Mary and Lisa would be so grateful.  You can also find the GWIC podcast on Corporate Compliance Insights where Lisa and Mary have a landing page with additional information about them and the story of the podcast.  Corporate Compliance Insights is a much appreciated sponsor and supporter of GWIC, including affiliate organization CCI Press publishing the related book; “Sending the Elevator Back Down, What We’ve Learned from Great Women in Compliance” (CCI Press, 2020). If you enjoyed the book, the GWIC team would be very grateful if you would consider rating it on Goodreads and Amazon and leaving a short review. You can subscribe to the Great Women in Compliance podcast on any podcast player by searching for it and we welcome new subscribers to our podcast. Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here.
8/17/202230 minutes, 39 seconds
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Shannon Walker - A Holistic Approach to Raising Concerns

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley. A critical topic for any ethics and compliance program is the ability for employees to raise concerns - from the initial speak-up process to the interview to the potential for retaliation: Shannon Walker, the founder, and CEO at WhistleBlower Security, Confidential Ethics Reporting & Case Management Solutions. Shannon started in communications for large organizations in the US and Canada. She founded WhistleBlower Security with a vision to make the process easier and more comfortable for reporters while protecting organizations.  Lisa and Shannon have a wide-ranging conversation about the differences between telephone and online reporters, a provider's responsibility to reporters and how that relates to their responsibilities to an organization and different ideas about how organizations can best "triage" in all parts of the investigation cycle. Shannon has always been committed to diversity and ESG, and she also talks about how becoming a "B Corp" has been a great learning process and an excellent accomplishment. Are you planning on heading to the SCCE CEI in Phoenix in October?  Check out Lisa and Mary’s speaking sessions on the agenda and sign up!  We invite you to say hello and introduce yourself during the conference – it’s going to be a great time. The Great Women in Compliance Podcast is on the Compliance Podcast Network with a selection of other Compliance-related offerings to listen to.  If you enjoy this episode, please rate it on your preferred podcast player to help other like-minded Ethics and Compliance professionals find it.  You can also find the GWIC podcast on Corporate Compliance Insights, where Lisa and Mary have a landing page with additional information about them and the podcast's story.  Corporate Compliance Insights is a much-appreciated sponsor and supporter of GWIC, including affiliate organization CCI Press publishing the related book, “Sending the Elevator Back Down, What We’ve Learned from Great Women in Compliance” (CCI Press, 2020). You can subscribe to the Great Women in Compliance podcast on any podcast player by searching for it, and we welcome new subscribers to our podcast. Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here.
8/10/202232 minutes, 1 second
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Sarah Powell - Remember the Why

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley. Today's guest is Sarah Powell. Sarah is the kind of person who makes everyone around her stronger. Her work in ethics and Compliance is directly related to her commitment to social justice and making a positive impact through anti-bribery and anti-corruption work. Lisa can vouch for that as she works with Sarah as Global Compliance Counsel, Director, Third-Party ABC Compliance at Pearson. Sarah returned to her home in South Africa from London at the beginning of the pandemic and had her daughter. She discussed how both of these events had impacted her. In particular, she talks about some of her experiences during quarantine, how they showed the resilience in South Africa and how the pandemic could also breed corruption. She also shares her views on what those of us outside South Africa can learn from their experiences, particularly how they talk about the past and issues. This episode is a great reminder of why we do this work and how we can directly influence society as a whole. Are you planning on heading to the SCCE CEI in Phoenix in October? Check out Lisa and Mary's speaking sessions on the agenda and sign up! We invite you to say hello and introduce yourself during the conference it's going to be a great time. The Great Women in Compliance Podcast is on the Compliance Podcast Network with a selection of other Compliance-related offerings to listen to. If you enjoy this episode, please rate it on your preferred podcast player to help other like-minded Ethics and Compliance professionals find it. You can also find the GWIC podcast on Corporate Compliance Insights, where Lisa and Mary have a landing page with additional information about them and the podcast's story. Corporate Compliance Insights is a much-appreciated sponsor and supporter of GWIC, including affiliate organization CCI Press publishing the related book" "Sending the Elevator Back Down, What We've Learned from Great Women in Compliance" (CCI Press, 2020). You can subscribe to the Great Women in Compliance podcast on any podcast player by searching for it, and we welcome new subscribers to our podcast. Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here.
8/3/202226 minutes, 34 seconds
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Archana Shastri-Isn’t She Lovely

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley. Mary met Archana Shastri on her first day of work as Legal and Compliance Counsel at Tata Communications in Singapore in 2010.  The two were peers and became fast friends, bonding quickly as two of the quieter colleagues and, in fact, the only two Compliance colleagues in the Singapore headquarters.  Archana, though now a Singaporean citizen, originally hails from India, and Mary asked Archana about some of the country's cultural characteristics that might be of interest to Compliance Officers.  Archana also generally shares an update on the Asia Pacific region and comments on levels of activity from some of the local Compliance regulators and authorities.  Mary asked Archana what she would like European and US-headquartered companies to know about the Asia Pacific region – Mary wholeheartedly stands behind Archana's points on this one!  Archana also details what it was like to study for her Master's Degree in Anti-Corruption studies, a course based in Vienna.  Archana wraps up the episode with some general commentary on the state and development of data privacy law in the Asia Pacific region.  Are you planning on heading to the SCCE CEI in Phoenix in October?  Check out Lisa and Mary's speaking sessions on the agenda and sign up!  We invite you to say hello and introduce yourself during the conference – it's going to be a great time. The Great Women in Compliance Podcast is on the Compliance Podcast Network with a selection of other Compliance-related offerings to listen to.  If you enjoy this episode, please rate it on your preferred podcast player to help other like-minded Ethics and Compliance professionals find it.  You can also find the GWIC podcast on Corporate Compliance Insights, where Lisa and Mary have a landing page with additional information about them and the podcast's story.  Corporate Compliance Insights is a much-appreciated sponsor and supporter of GWIC, including affiliate organization CCI Press publishing the related book, "Sending the Elevator Back Down, What We've Learned from Great Women in Compliance" (CCI Press, 2020). You can subscribe to the Great Women in Compliance podcast on any podcast player by searching for it, and we welcome new subscribers to our podcast. Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here.
7/27/202223 minutes, 46 seconds
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Mia Reini on DIY Compliance

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley. In this week’s episode of Great Women in Compliance, Mary brings the team back from break with an interview with Mia Reini, a Compliance leader at the Home Depot. Mia tells us about her efforts to bring Home Depot’s Compliance awareness initiatives external to the company as a goal, discusses the difference between risk management and compliance, and gives tips for policy governance. We often get asked whether we accept recommendations or nominations for GWIC guests – the answer is absolutely! We’ll be happy to receive any suggestions and feedback – send them through to [email protected] detailing what makes the individual stand out as a great woman in compliance. Please note that we are not an advertising agency and do not accept nominations for vendor marketing to ensure consistently high-quality episodes. The Great Women in Compliance Podcast is on the Compliance Podcast Network with a selection of other Compliance-related offerings to listen to. If you are enjoying this episode, please rate it on your preferred podcast player to help other like-minded Ethics and Compliance professionals find it. You can also find the GWIC podcast on Corporate Compliance Insights, where Lisa and Mary have a landing page with additional information about them and the podcast's story. Corporate Compliance Insights is a much-appreciated sponsor and supporter of GWIC, including affiliate organization CCI Press publishing the related book, “Sending the Elevator Back Down, What We’ve Learned from Great Women in Compliance” (CCI Press, 2020). You can subscribe to the Great Women in Compliance podcast on any podcast player by searching for it, and we welcome new subscribers to our podcast. Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here.
7/20/202217 minutes, 47 seconds
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Wendy Badger-Compliance from Soup to Nuts

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley. Mary and Lisa end the second GWIC semester with Wendy Badger. Wendy is Global Compliance Counsel at Tennant Company, where she oversees their global ethics and compliance program. She has worked in-house and in law firms, taking her experiences from one space and applying them to others. She is also an author, regular speaker, friend, and mentor to many - and one of the "OG GWICS" who has made this community grow. Lisa and Wendy discuss a number of different topics, starting with remote investigations, which is top of mind for many of us these days. They talk about pitfalls, lessons learned, and some practical tips, including one from Wendy about how she makes interviewees more comfortable. They also talk about the impact of remote work on networking over the past few years, focusing on women and how that may change as the world continues to open up. Wendy also shares some of her favorite advice and how she has made some of that advice her own. She also told Lisa what has now become one of the best stories about public speaking on the podcast! GWIC is going on vacation for the next few weeks but will be back on July 20. We hope everyone remembers to take some time off - whether off social media, off from work, or just time for yourself. The Great Women in Compliance Podcast is on the Compliance Podcast Network with a selection of other Compliance-related offerings to listen to. If you enjoy this episode, please rate it on your preferred podcast player to help other like-minded Ethics and Compliance professionals find it. You can also find the GWIC podcast on Corporate Compliance Insights, where Lisa and Mary have a landing page with additional information about them and the story of the podcast. Corporate Compliance Insights is a much-appreciated sponsor and supporter of GWIC, including affiliate organization CCI Press publishing the related book, “Sending the Elevator Back Down, What We’ve Learned from Great Women in Compliance” (CCI Press, 2020). You can subscribe to the Great Women in Compliance podcast on any podcast player by searching for it, and we welcome new subscribers to our podcast. Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here.
6/29/202245 minutes, 50 seconds
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Jill Atstupenas-Hadley Maeve

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley.  Trigger warning: This episode contains a baby loss story and theme.  The Great Women in Compliance Podcast often covers instances of “doing the right thing”.  We’ve previously done it regarding respect and dignity in the hiring process and today’s episode focuses on empathy and compassion by employers when employees suffer a tragedy.  Jill Atstupenas shares her and her husband’s story of losing their dearly desired baby girl, Hadley Maeve and provides some thoughtful considerations for how managers and company staff more broadly can respond in a way that shows support for the colleague and lets them know they are a valued member of staff.  Her ideas are practical, tangible and actionable items that will guide managers who truly care about their staff.  The title of today’s episode is our tribute to Hadley Maeve.  Jill also discusses how peers and other colleagues can help a colleague going through a difficult time to navigate it so that even if you’re not a manager, you can walk the walk of being a beacon of integrity in an organization.  We end the episode with Jill discussing some of the differences for Compliance Officers transitioning from a well-established large company, to a smaller one with less of a history.  The Great Women in Compliance Podcast is on the Compliance Podcast Network with a selection of other Compliance related offerings to listen in to.  If you are enjoying this episode, please rate it on your preferred podcast player to help other likeminded Ethics and Compliance professionals find it.  You can also find the GWIC podcast on Corporate Compliance Insights where Lisa and Mary have a landing page with additional information about them and the story of the podcast.  Corporate Compliance Insights is a much appreciated sponsor and supporter of GWIC, including affiliate organization CCI Press publishing the related book; “Sending the Elevator Back Down, What We’ve Learned from Great Women in Compliance” (CCI Press, 2020). You can subscribe to the Great Women in Compliance podcast on any podcast player by searching for it and we welcome new subscribers to our podcast. Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here. 
6/22/202242 minutes, 28 seconds
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A Conversation with Adam Balfour

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley.  Adam Balfour is known as a "GGIC" - a great guy in compliance, and he is also Vice President and General Counsel for Corporate Compliance and Vice President for Global Risk Management at Bridgestone America. Initially from Scotland, Adam has supported diversity throughout his career, and recognizes the importance of different viewpoints as part of analyzing risk. Adam has become known for a number of things, including his "Sunday Morning Compliance Tip," which is on LinkedIn every week, and now being published by Corporate Compliance Insights.  Lisa and Adam talk about how this passion project has grown and how a community has evolved around it. They also discuss how projects like these can enhance your professional career as well as the opportunities they can provide for people to build their networks and experiences. Anothing thing Adam is known for is the philosophy of "ethics and compliance for humans," and he explains this idea and how it applies to how he builds a program. He is also a strong advocate for women; a dad to 3 girls and one son, so he shares his advice for them.  The Great Women in Compliance Podcast is on the Compliance Podcast Network with a selection of other Compliance related offerings to listen in to. If you are enjoying this episode, please rate it on your preferred podcast player to help other likeminded Ethics and Compliance professionals find it. You can also find the GWIC podcast on Corporate Compliance Insights where Lisa and Mary have a landing page with additional information about them and the story of the podcast. Corporate Compliance Insights is a much appreciated sponsor and supporter of GWIC, including affiliate organization CCI Press publishing the related book; “Sending the Elevator Back Down, What We’ve Learned from Great Women in Compliance” (CCI Press, 2020).  You can subscribe to the Great Women in Compliance podcast on any podcast player by searching for it and we welcome new subscribers to our podcast. Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here. 
6/15/202234 minutes, 49 seconds
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Alison Taylor-Everything She Says is Gold

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley.  Alison Taylor is one of Mary’s favorite thought leaders. After last appearing on the show in 2020 with Lisa, we invited Alison back to hear about her latest project, a book you’ll hear about and her latest musings on ESG including challenges for companies and what Alison is predicting about the future of ESG – you won’t want to miss it! We ask Alison who she would give an ethical award to up until this point in 2022 and we think you’ll be in agreement with her thoughts on this leader who has exemplified tone from the top.  The GWIC team sends their thanks for all of the well wishes received for their milestone 150th episode last week.  The Great Women in Compliance Podcast is on the Compliance Podcast Network with a selection of other Compliance related offerings to listen in to. If you are enjoying this episode, please rate it on your preferred podcast player to help other likeminded Ethics and Compliance professionals find it. You can also find the GWIC podcast on Corporate Compliance Insights where Lisa and Mary have a landing page with additional information about them and the story of the podcast. Corporate Compliance Insights is a much appreciated sponsor and supporter of GWIC, including affiliate organization CCI Press publishing the related book; “Sending the Elevator Back Down, What We’ve Learned from Great Women in Compliance” (CCI Press, 2020).  You can subscribe to the Great Women in Compliance podcast on any podcast player by searching for it and we welcome new subscribers to our podcast. Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here. 
6/8/202233 minutes, 38 seconds
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GWICies and Compliance Week

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley. It's the 150th episode of the Great Women in Compliance podcast. This is a special episode because Mary and Lisa decided to do a joint episode in the middle of a season. And in honor of the 150th episode, they have brought back the GWICies. This year, they call out some things that resonated with them - the best new podcast, the best innovation this year, the best swag at a conference, the program that can be a phoenix and rise up, while still providing lessons to learn, and the best "outside compliance," success story, among others.  The other part of the episode is a recap of the recent Compliance Week conference. Lisa and Mary give their feedback about some highlights and some lessons learned in the panels. They both felt very fortunate to be a part of this live conference, and the opportunity to connect in person. Lastly, Lisa and Mary want to thank the Compliance Podcast Network and Corporate Compliance Insights for their ongoing support and sponsorship - they couldn't do it without them. They are also grateful for the entire #GWIC community - who have made this such a wonderful experience for them. The Great Women in Compliance Podcast is on the Compliance Podcast Network with a selection of other Compliance related offerings to listen in to. If you are enjoying this episode, please rate it on your preferred podcast player to help other likeminded Ethics and Compliance professionals find it. You can also find the GWIC podcast on Corporate Compliance Insights where Lisa and Mary have a landing page with additional information about them and the story of the podcast. Corporate Compliance Insights is a much appreciated sponsor and supporter of GWIC, including affiliate organization CCI Press publishing the related book; “Sending the Elevator Back Down, What We’ve Learned from Great Women in Compliance” (CCI Press, 2020). You can subscribe to the Great Women in Compliance podcast on any podcast player by searching for it and we welcome new subscribers to our podcast. Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here.
6/1/202230 minutes, 15 seconds
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Kelly Paxton and the Great Women in Fraud Podcast

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley. Today's episode is a joint episode of the "Great Women in Compliance" and "Great Women in Fraud" podcasts. Lisa speaks with Kelly Paxton, who is a Certified Fraud Examiner, investigator, teacher and a well-known expert on "pink collar crime." Lisa and Kelly discuss what makes a "Great Woman in" Compliance and Fraud, and is there a crossover between the two professions. They focus on the importance of mentors, removing barriers and what challenges are unique to our gender, professor, either or both.  The talk about how someone in an organization who is less senior, but very experienced employees can be very susceptible to the fraud triangle. They also discuss the human decisions that impact fraud and compliance, and what they wish they knew earlier and the reminder that #whistleblowersareheroes.   We hope that you enjoy this episode and you can hear it here and we hope you visit the Great Women in Fraud website at greatwomeninfraud.com.  The Great Women in Compliance Podcast is on the Compliance Podcast Network with a selection of other Compliance related offerings to listen in to. If you are enjoying this episode, please rate it on your preferred podcast player to help other likeminded Ethics and Compliance professionals find it. You can also find the GWIC podcast on Corporate Compliance Insights where Lisa and Mary have a landing page with additional information about them and the story of the podcast. Corporate Compliance Insights is a much-appreciated sponsor and supporter of GWIC, including affiliate organization CCI Press publishing the related book; “Sending the Elevator Back Down, What We’ve Learned from Great Women in Compliance” (CCI Press, 2020). Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here.
5/18/202236 minutes, 18 seconds
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Nordic Business Ethics Initiative - Niina Ratsula and Anna Romberg

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley.  Not too dissimilar from Lisa and Mary, Niina and Anna partner on a project to further knowledge to others in the Ethics and Compliance community.  Their Nordic Business Ethics Initiative is a wonderful contribution to practitioners.  We invite you to hear the story about how they got started and what they provide to others in the field.  Niina and Anna discuss some of the recent findings in their benchmarking survey with Mary sharing some commentary on a surprising finding and how global practitioners might use this data to target their speak up campaigns accordingly.  They also share their advice for anyone else thinking about launching a not for profit idea to serve the Compliance community and Mary wraps up the interview with some advice regarding interpreting signals of anger and what they mean vis-a-vis guilt in investigations.  Each of the GWIC team; Lisa, Tom and Mary, is speaking at Compliance Week in DC 16-18 May.  If you enjoy our thought leadership, join our panel sessions to hear more and look out for us in the networking breaks to say hello!  The Great Women in Compliance Podcast is on the Compliance Podcast Network with a selection of other Compliance related offerings to listen in to.  If you are enjoying this episode, please rate it on your preferred podcast player to help other likeminded Ethics and Compliance professionals find it.  You can also find the GWIC podcast on Corporate Compliance Insights where Lisa and Mary have a landing page with additional information about them and the story of the podcast.  Corporate Compliance Insights is a much-appreciated sponsor and supporter of GWIC, including affiliate organization CCI Press publishing the related book; “Sending the Elevator Back Down, What We’ve Learned from Great Women in Compliance” (CCI Press, 2020). Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here. 
5/11/202233 minutes, 54 seconds
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Ann Sultan – Diversity as a Regulatory Issue

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley. Today Lisa speaks with Ann Sultan, Partner and Practice Lead for the Europe-Caucasus-Asia Practice Group at Miller & Chevalier. Ann helps multinational companies build their compliance programs and conduct global investigations to support their anti-corruption, anti-harassment, and anti-discrimination objectives. Ann has spent most of her career in law firms and talks about how she built her practice and career, noting how the support of more senior women at Miller & Chevalier was impactful in her career growth. Lisa and Ann also discuss the topic of diversity as a regulatory issue, and how the NASDAQ guidance on this topic and the UK FCA statements make this even more clear. Ann also contributed to "Sending the Elevator Back Down: What We’ve Learned From Great Women in Compliance," (CCI Press 2020), and Lisa and Mary will be guests at the Seven Elements Book Club on May 11 on Zoom to discuss the book. Please message them if you would like to know more. Are you attending Compliance Week’s annual conference? The GWIC team of Lisa, Tom, and Mary will all be speaking and look forward to saying hello to listeners of Compliance Podcast Network listeners in DC! Corporate Compliance Insights is a much-appreciated sponsor and supporter of GWIC. You can subscribe to the Great Women in Compliance podcast on any podcast player by searching for it and we welcome new subscribers to our podcast. Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here.
5/4/202223 minutes, 51 seconds
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Kristy Grant-Hart – Adult Learning Theory and Compliance Training

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley.  Kristy Grant-Hart was one of the Great Women in Compliance podcast’s inaugural guests, whose episode launched on 6 December 2018. She agreed to be on the show before we had a track record and reputation – we’re grateful to her for supporting us right from the start. We invited Kristy, one of the Compliance community’s most respected voices, to return to the show to share with us how adult learning theory can best be applied to your compliance training to make it more effective. Listen in to get a baseline understanding of adult learning theory and Kristy’s tips for enhancing your training program. We also hear about how Compliance Competitor is going and what the ever moving and shaking Kristy is up to next. Are you attending Compliance Week’s annual conference? The GWIC team of Lisa, Tom and Mary will all be speaking and look forward to saying hello to listeners of Compliance Podcast Network listeners in DC.  The Great Women in Compliance Podcast is on the Compliance Podcast Network with a selection of other Compliance related offerings to listen in to. If you are enjoying this episode, please rate it on your preferred podcast player to help other likeminded Ethics and Compliance professionals find it. You can also find the GWIC podcast on Corporate Compliance Insights where Lisa and Mary have a landing page with additional information about them and the story of the podcast. Corporate Compliance Insights is a much appreciated sponsor and supporter of GWIC, including affiliate organization CCI Press publishing the related book; “Sending the Elevator Back Down, What We’ve Learned from Great Women in Compliance” (CCI Press, 2020). You can subscribe to the Great Women in Compliance podcast on any podcast player by searching for it and we welcome new subscribers to our podcast. Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here. 
4/27/202219 minutes, 31 seconds
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Hemma Ramrattan Lomax

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley.  One of the interesting things about ethics & compliance as a field is that we look at ethical decision-making and policies and working to be innovative and approachable.  In today's episode Lisa speaks with Hemma Ramrattan Lomax,  Senior Corporate Counsel, Integrity and Compliance at Snap, Inc.   As you may have heard last week with Nicole Diaz, Snap is doing exactly with their Code of Conduct and how they center so many things around their core value of kindness.   Hemma elaborates on this and the career she has built through the art of integrity. When she was younger, Hemma's goal was to be the first female Secretary General of the UN (which still has not happened), and Hemma talks about how this brought her into law as she grew up in the UK, to deciding to come to the US to work for the SEC, and eventually to Snap.  She mentions how her work now relates to her earlier goals, and that radical curiosity is what keeps her career and interests evolving. To Hemma, the "art of integrity" has guided her career interests, and how we can all do that to make impactful changes, whether it is in our communities, in DEI, or in other ways.  The Great Women in Compliance Podcast is on the Compliance Podcast Network with a selection of other Compliance related offerings to listen in to. If you are enjoying this episode, please rate it on your preferred podcast player to help other likeminded Ethics and Compliance professionals find it. You can also find the GWIC podcast on Corporate Compliance Insights where Lisa and Mary have a landing page with additional information about them and the story of the podcast. Corporate Compliance Insights is a much appreciated sponsor and supporter of GWIC, including affiliate organization CCI Press publishing the related book; “Sending the Elevator Back Down, What We’ve Learned from Great Women in Compliance” (CCI Press, 2020). You can subscribe to the Great Women in Compliance podcast on any podcast player by searching for it and we welcome new subscribers to our podcast. Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here. 
4/20/202230 minutes, 54 seconds
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Nicole Diaz-Kindness and Compliance

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley.  In 2021, Snap Inc. released a new code of conduct with a theme of kindness evangelism. Hear Nicole Diaz, Global Head of Integrity & Compliance Legal talk about how the team worked on putting it together and why they considered it important to have a focus on kindness in a company code of conduct. Nicole also shares some of the compliance considerations when working in a social media/tech company, as well as what’s on the agenda for the Snap Compliance program in 2022. We hear about her commitment to DEI also and how this has impacted Nicole’s approach to ethics and compliance. The Great Women in Compliance Podcast is on the Compliance Podcast Network with a selection of other Compliance related offerings to listen in to. If you are enjoying this episode, please rate it on your preferred podcast player to help other likeminded Ethics and Compliance professionals find it. You can also find the GWIC podcast on Corporate Compliance Insights where Lisa and Mary have a landing page with additional information about them and the story of the podcast. Corporate Compliance Insights is a much appreciated sponsor and supporter of GWIC, including affiliate organization CCI Press publishing the related book; “Sending the Elevator Back Down, What We’ve Learned from Great Women in Compliance” (CCI Press, 2020). You can subscribe to the Great Women in Compliance podcast on any podcast player by searching for it and we welcome new subscribers to our podcast. Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here. 
4/13/202228 minutes, 5 seconds
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Ellen Hunt - Organizational Justice

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley.  In today's episode, Lisa speaks with one of the "OG GWICs," and one of the first interviewees, Ellen Hunt.  Ellen joined Spark Compliance in 2021, and is always a supporter for women in compliance, and in compliance as a whole.  Today, we follow up on her 2021 podcast, where Lisa and Ellen discussed how the E&C profession is addressing retaliation, and the importance of anti-retaliation as part of speaking up. The main discussion is about organizational justice, and particularly aspects of procedural justice, as this is one where compliance professionals can have a huge impact.  They discuss the concept of consistent discipline and fairness, and what that can mean.   They also discuss when Will Smith slapped Chris Rock at the Oscars telecast from an organizational justice standpoint, and how similar issues play out in corporations. You can subscribe to the Great Women in Compliance podcast on any podcast player by searching for it and we welcome new subscribers to our podcast. Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here. 
4/6/202233 minutes, 52 seconds
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Bonus Episode-Edye Edens

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley.  Welcome to the Spring Season for the Great Women in Compliance Podcast. Today, we have a first on the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, our first guest host. Our producer, Tom Fox recently interviewed Edye Edens, a Consultant in Human Subject Research Compliance for First Class Solutions, Inc. Tom contacted us and said the interview was more a #GWIC style podcast than his standard interview and asked if he could post it on the Great Women in Compliance Podcast and we said yes.  Tom and Edye discuss her background growing up in a small town in Oklahoma and then explore her academic and professional background at length and how each role has influenced her career in compliance. Edye has worked for a large academic institution in Indiana and has been involved in numerous human rights-focused, non-governmental organizations both in the U.S. and abroad while also living overseas.  Edye now works in the area of human subject research compliance and details the challenges unique to that profession. They discuss working both in-house in compliance and as an outside consultant and the benefits and encounters each perspective brings to the compliance profession.   You can subscribe to the Great Women in Compliance podcast on any podcast player by searching for it and we welcome new subscribers to our podcast. Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here. 
3/30/202257 minutes, 2 seconds
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Alison Hinds-Pearl on Why the Only Constant is Change

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley.  Today is the day after International Women's Day, and we are so pleased to welcome Alison Hinds-Pearl.  Alison is the Chief Compliance Officer and Assistant General Counsel at Revlon and previously had senior roles at MasterCard and Bayer.   Her career is remarkable in many ways, particularly as she has been in three very different industries, finance, pharma and now beauty and self-care products.   Alison talks about the differences and similarities in these different industries, particularly as finance and pharma are so heavily regulated.  Alison also started at Revlon during the pandemic and discusses her experience. Lisa and Alison discuss the importance of diversity in our organizations, and Alison shares some insight from her experience, as a woman and as a woman of color, including an early experience at the Bronx District Attorney's Office.  This is a great discussion not only for Women's History Month, but to conclude the winter session of #GWIC.   Great Women in Compliance will be back on March 30 with a special bonus episode hosted by Tom Fox.  Lisa and Mary want to say thank you to the #GWIC community, especially during Women's History Month. You can subscribe to the Great Women in Compliance podcast on any podcast player by searching for it and we welcome new subscribers to our podcast. Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here. 
3/9/202225 minutes, 21 seconds
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Debra Sabitini Hennelly, Part 2 series: Burnout, ESG and Ethical Leadership

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley. Following on from our Part 1 from last week, we invite Debbie Sabatini Hennelly back for the second part of series where we discuss how a book became a deliverable that helped Debbie work through burnout which ties in nicely with the burnout discussion commenced in the first episode.  As someone who was previously an environmental lawyer, Debbie is one of the few people who is legitimately an ESG expert and shares with us some thoughts about how companies ought to approach ESG, as well as giving her view on whether or not Compliance should own ESG.  We also ask for Debbie’s advice about being a great leader and how to manage upwards when you have a difficult boss.  The Great Women in Compliance Podcast is on the Compliance Podcast Network with a selection of other Compliance related offerings to listen in to.  If you are enjoying this episode, please rate it on your preferred podcast player to help other likeminded Ethics and Compliance professionals find it.  You can also find the GWIC podcast on Corporate Compliance Insights where Lisa and Mary have a landing page with additional information about them and the story of the podcast.  Corporate Compliance Insights is a much-appreciated sponsor and supporter of GWIC, including affiliate organization CCI Press publishing the related book; “Sending the Elevator Back Down, What We’ve Learned from Great Women in Compliance” (CCI Press, 2020). You can subscribe to the Great Women in Compliance podcast on any podcast player by searching for it and we welcome new subscribers to our podcast. Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here.
3/2/202249 minutes, 36 seconds
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Debra Sabitini Hennelly, Part 1: Psychological Safety, Burnout and Culture

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley. In Part 1 of a two-part series with Debra Sabitini Hennelly, we focus on three major themes of psychological safety, burnout and culture. In Google studies, psychological safety has been the number one factor of successful teams. It’s therefore important that we cultivate cultures with psychological safety as a critical part of our culture of integrity. Environments of psychological safety are safe places where stakeholders know that they can share their views without fear or retribution – that it is a safe place to speak freely. There also needs to be inclusiveness and a sense of belonging by members of the community and we discuss this in further detail in this episode. Deb shares some thoughts on burnout and we emphasize that feelings of burnout do not just occur when you’re overworked and overtired. Burnout can occur when you’re going through very traumatic situations at work or at home so we keep in mind the moral injury aspect of feelings that can be present sometimes with burnout, as well as the sheer exhaustion. These topics naturally touch on culture as a critical aspect in terms of whether you are surrounded by psychological safety or burnout and we talk about culture from many different angles in this episode from how you can own and embrace it as a population to the recent brave move of Rio Tinto making their culture survey results public as an example of courage and accountability. The Great Women in Compliance Podcast is on the Compliance Podcast Network with a selection of other Compliance related offerings to listen in to. If you are enjoying this episode, please rate it on your preferred podcast player to help other likeminded Ethics and Compliance professionals find it. You can also find the GWIC podcast on Corporate Compliance Insights where Lisa and Mary have a landing page with additional information about them and the story of the podcast. Corporate Compliance Insights is a much-appreciated sponsor and supporter of GWIC, including affiliate organization CCI Press publishing the related book; “Sending the Elevator Back Down, What We’ve Learned from Great Women in Compliance” (CCI Press, 2020). You can subscribe to the Great Women in Compliance podcast on any podcast player by searching for it and we welcome new subscribers to our podcast. Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here.
2/23/202240 minutes, 44 seconds
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Jennifer Newton, CEO and Founder of NABCRMP

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley.  As this is Black History Month, we are thrilled to have Jennifer Newton join Lisa on this episode. Jennifer is the founder and CEO of the National Association of Black Compliance and Risk Management and Compliance Professionals ("NABCRMP"), NABCRMP, which is dedicated to networking, promotion and the advancement of Black Risk Management Professionals NABCRMP, which is dedicated to networking, promotion and the advancement of Black Risk Management Professional. In the past 18 months in particular, it has grown in numbers of employees, influence and incredible work to move our profession forward.   Jennifer shares some of the work that NABCRMP has done, including their first annual meeting, the building of networks, and the significant corporate sponsors supporting their initiatives.   Jennifer and Lisa also discuss the importance of having a diverse team - how can a team without different viewpoints and perspectives accurately view and consider risks? She also discusses her view about how risk and compliance professionals are well placed to collaborate on DEI initiatives. We also get to hear about the opportunities that NABCRMP has for us to help mentor and support a new generation of Black risk and compliance professionals and make compliance an inclusive space.  The Great Women in Compliance Podcast is on the Compliance Podcast Network with a selection of other Compliance related offerings to listen in to.  If you are enjoying this episode, please rate it on your preferred podcast player to help other likeminded Ethics and Compliance professionals find it.  You can also find the GWIC podcast on Corporate Compliance Insights where Lisa and Mary have a landing page with additional information about them and the story of the podcast.  Corporate Compliance Insights is a much-appreciated sponsor and supporter of GWIC, including affiliate organization CCI Press publishing the related book; “Sending the Elevator Back Down, What We’ve Learned from Great Women in Compliance” (CCI Press, 2020). You can subscribe to the Great Women in Compliance podcast on any podcast player by searching for it and we welcome new subscribers to our podcast. Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here. 
2/16/202232 minutes, 31 seconds
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Data Security Update with Rachel Pashkevich Koontz

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley.  In this week’s episode we take a deep dive into the latest in data security so that our listeners who are not experts in this area can learn from one. Rachel Pashkevich Koontz is Senior Corporate Counsel, Cybersecurity Compliance at T-Mobile and helpfully gives us the latest updates in data security.  We asked Rachael to walk us through the Colonial Pipeline case from last year and the lessons learned, her tips for what we should focus on with regards to cyber security controls in 2022 and Rachel tells us about a risk that she took earlier in her career that paid off.  The Great Women in Compliance Podcast is on the Compliance Podcast Network with a selection of other Compliance related offerings to listen in to.  If you are enjoying this episode, please rate it on your preferred podcast player to help other likeminded Ethics and Compliance professionals find it.  You can also find the GWIC podcast on Corporate Compliance Insights where Lisa and Mary have a landing page with additional information about them and the story of the podcast.  Corporate Compliance Insights is a much-appreciated sponsor and supporter of GWIC, including affiliate organization CCI Press publishing the related book; “Sending the Elevator Back Down, What We’ve Learned from Great Women in Compliance” (CCI Press, 2020). You can subscribe to the Great Women in Compliance podcast on any podcast player by searching for it and we welcome new subscribers to our podcast. Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here. 
2/9/202250 minutes, 30 seconds
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A Non-Linear Compliance Life with Amy Landry

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley.  In today's episode, Lisa talks to Amy Landry, who is one of the original GWICs, and a part of the podcast community since Day 1.  Amy is an External Oversight and Risk Analyst for Vaya Health, and has experience in ethics, compliance and privacy.  She is also someone who has a non-linear career. Amy spent a lot of her career working with E&C vendors, and when her job was impacted during COVID, she decided that she wanted to move to the in-house side.  She shares how she made that decision, and what steps she took to grow her knowledge base. Amy is also known for how she has built a great network, and she  has a great network and she talks about how she built and grew it by starting a blog when she was looking for her in-house role and about her experience looking for a job during the pandemic. We also discuss the intersection of DEI and ethics and compliance, and Amy provides some of the insight she gained as part of the University of South Florida DEI certification program.  The Great Women in Compliance Podcast is on the Compliance Podcast Network with a selection of other Compliance related offerings to listen in to.  If you are enjoying this episode, please rate it on your preferred podcast player to help other likeminded Ethics and Compliance professionals find it.  You can also find the GWIC podcast on Corporate Compliance Insights where Lisa and Mary have a landing page with additional information about them and the story of the podcast.  Corporate Compliance Insights is a much appreciated sponsor and supporter of GWIC, including affiliate organization CCI Press publishing the related book; “Sending the Elevator Back Down, What We’ve Learned from Great Women in Compliance” (CCI Press, 2020). You can subscribe to the Great Women in Compliance podcast on any podcast player by searching for it and we welcome new subscribers to our podcast. Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here. 
2/2/202226 minutes, 37 seconds
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Leaving a Lasting Impression with Wendy Wysong

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley.  In 2011, Mary attended a conference in Singapore and listened to a learned lawyer speak about the FCPA.  Her name is Wendy Wysong and though they did not speak, Mary remembered Wendy’s name and many years later, connected with her on LinkedIn and ten years later asked Wendy to be on the Great Women in Compliance podcast.  Such was the lasting impression Wendy left from her talk that day.  Wendy is an American based in Hong Kong and shares some of her experiences of what work and life has been like during the pandemic.  The two GWIC discuss the lessened guidance coming from US regulators in 2021 vs 2020, making adaptions to investigations during the pandemic with less ability to travel and how data privacy requirements have changed the way Wendy thinks about doing business.  This episode is snappy and right to the point with astute observations from Wendy packed into a relatively short timeframe – it’s perfect for filling a spare 20 minutes of your time or to keep you company while decluttering your drawers or vacuuming (iPods an essential for listening in while doing housework!).  The Great Women in Compliance Podcast is on the Compliance Podcast Network with a selection of other Compliance related offerings to listen in to.  If you are enjoying this episode, please rate it on your preferred podcast player to help other likeminded Ethics and Compliance professionals find it.  You can also find the GWIC podcast on Corporate Compliance Insights where Lisa and Mary have a landing page with additional information about them and the story of the podcast.  Corporate Compliance Insights is a much appreciated sponsor and supporter of GWIC, including affiliate organization CCI Press publishing the related book; “Sending the Elevator Back Down, What We’ve Learned from Great Women in Compliance” (CCI Press, 2020). You can subscribe to the Great Women in Compliance podcast on any podcast player by searching for it and we welcome new subscribers to our podcast. Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here. 
1/26/202222 minutes, 10 seconds
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Corporate Integrity Matters with Sonja Stirnimann

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley.  Corporate Integrity is something that is a core component of a strong compliance program, and today's guest is a leader in helping organizations globally understand and provide guidance on in this area, as well as hosting a wonderful podcast on this topic "The Human Factor: Why Corporate Integrity Matters."  Sonja Stirnimann is the Founder and Managing Director at Structuul AG, a consultancy based in Switzerland which focuses on preventing fraud and non-compliance, as well as hosting her podcast.   Lisa had the opportunity to discuss how Sonja defines corporate integrity, as well as why humans are the key to building a strong program (as well as indicators of one that needs improvement). She shares some of the challenges she has faced as a woman leader and entrepreneur, and also one where she had her own integrity challenges very early in her career. We also have the chance to Sonja to share some of her favorite places to visit in Switzerland and allows Lisa to reminisce about that amazing place. GWIC is excited about our winter season, and always happy to get suggestions on guests, recommendations or ideas to make our podcast and community even stronger. As always, we are so grateful for all of your support and if you have any feedback or suggestions for our line up or would just like to reach out and say hello, we always welcome hearing from our listeners. If you are enjoying this episode, please rate it on your preferred podcast player to help other likeminded Ethics and Compliance professionals find it.  You can also find the GWIC podcast on Corporate Compliance Insights where Lisa and Mary have a landing page with additional information about them and the story of the podcast.   You can subscribe to the Great Women in Compliance podcast on any podcast player by searching for it and we welcome new subscribers to our podcast. Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here. 
1/19/202229 minutes, 10 seconds
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Jonathan Armstrong

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley.  Welcome to the first Great Women In Compliance episode for 2022. Lisa and Mary are really excited about starting off another year of connecting, communicating and celebrating our GWIC family. While Mary and Lisa usually start out each quarter with a joint discussion, this time they do a joint interview with a guest who was there when this podcast was born. Jonathan Armstrong is a strong supporter of women in compliance, diversity, and is an expert in GDPR, Brexit, and many other multinational issues, as well as a partner at Cordery Compliance, and is based in the UK. He is also on the Compliance Podcast Network as a co-host of the "Everything Compliance" and "Life with GDPR" podcasts.  In this episode, we talk about what he thinks should be top of mind for E&C professionals in multinational organizations, how Brexit has impacted compliance programs, and what is new in the world of GDPR and data privacy.   Jonathan is also known for his ability to connect and build relationships. and talks about how he builds his network and his approach. Lisa and Mary like to think that one of the highlights of Jonathan's career is that he won the GWICie for Comic Relief, and not only will you understand why after listening to this episode. As always, we are so grateful for all of your support and if you have any feedback or suggestions for our line up or would just like to reach out and say hello, we always welcome hearing from our listeners. If you are enjoying this episode, please rate it on your preferred podcast player to help other likeminded Ethics and Compliance professionals find it.  You can also find the GWIC podcast on Corporate Compliance Insights where Lisa and Mary have a landing page with additional information about them and the story of the podcast.   You can subscribe to the Great Women in Compliance podcast on any podcast player by searching for it and we welcome new subscribers to our podcast. Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here. 
1/12/202243 minutes, 51 seconds
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The Brothers Gallo

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley.  Nick and Gio Gallo are the heads of ComplianceLine, a reporting hotline company that offers myriad other Compliance (Ethics & Compliance Solutions | Compliance Management Systems & Software services as well.  Nick and Gio are known as two good guys in Compliance – they espouse a servant leader model and know that a successful business is one that prizes ethical treatment of employees.  Mary speaks to the brothers about their management style and the importance of ethics in the workplace extending to how we treat our most valuable resources – our people. Nick and Gio have private equity backgrounds and are no strangers to the realities of dealing with business executives.  They advocate for an ROI approach for dealing with your board and other executives.  Listen in to this episode for advice on how to do that effectively.  As specialists in hotlines, Nick and Gio share expert information about benchmarking (they do a regular benchmarking report, go ahead and download it for treasures to help inform your own program) and pitfalls that companies fall into when maintaining a hotline.  As 2021 comes to an end, Lisa and Mary wish to thank the GWIC listeners for joining them throughout the year.  Many of you have taken the time to rate the podcast and book on various forums as well as write in to Mary and Lisa with your compliments.  Though we still struggle through a pandemic world, the sense of unity, support and kindness from listeners has been a blessing for the GWIC team and we’re very grateful for you.  We will take a two week break for upcoming holidays and be back again on a fortnightly basis from 5 January 2021. May the new calendar year bring you much prosperity, success and blessings.  The Great Women in Compliance Podcast is on the Compliance Podcast Network with a selection of other Compliance related offerings to listen in to.  If you are enjoying this episode, please rate it on your preferred podcast player to help other likeminded Ethics and Compliance professionals find it.  You can also find the GWIC podcast on Corporate Compliance Insights where Lisa and Mary have a landing page with additional information about them and the story of the podcast.  Corporate Compliance Insights is a much-appreciated sponsor and supporter of GWIC, including affiliate organization CCI Press publishing the related book; “Sending the Elevator Back Down, What We’ve Learned from Great Women in Compliance” (CCI Press, 2020). As always, we are so grateful for all of your support and if you have any feedback or suggestions for our line up or would just like to reach out and say hello, we always welcome hearing from our listeners.  You can subscribe to the Great Women in Compliance podcast on any podcast player by searching for it and we welcome new subscribers to our podcast. Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here. 
12/15/202147 minutes, 5 seconds
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Lisa Beth Lentini Walker – Raising Your Game

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley.  As we are getting to the end of 2021, which has been a challenging year in many ways, we also have a lot of wonderful people and work in the ethics and compliance community to celebrate.  Lisa Beth Lentini Walker is one of those people.  Lisa F wanted to end the year with Lisa Beth to reflect on this year, some lessons she learned, but mostly to talk about Lisa Beth and Stef Tschida's great book "Raise Your Game, Not Your Voice: How Listening, Communicating, and Storytelling Shape Compliance Program Influence" (CCI Press 2021), which is a great resource for compliance professionals and others about how to get your message out efficiently and collaboratively. She also talks about the characteristics of being a scholar in your work, one of which is persistence, and how to balance keeping your message and voice while at the same time adapting to other viewpoints and what you will learn.  Lisa Beth shares questions from readers and clients about communications and some practical tips. Lisa Beth also worked with Stef, who is a friend and colleague of hers for many years and talk about the importance of a good relationship with your co-writers for a book.  Lisa and Mary's work together echoes what Lisa Beth says, as well as the importance of community.  On that note, they want to thank all of you for supporting the #gwicbook "Sending the Elevator Back Down: What We've Learned from Great Women in Compliance" (CCI Press 2020), and all of you, including Lisa Beth and her family, who voted for us and supported us in winning the Pulse The Magazine For The Culture Awards Non-Fiction Book of the Year. If you’ve already read the booked and liked it, will you help out other women to make the decision to leverage off the tips and advice given by rating the book and giving it a glowing review on Amazon?   As always, we are so grateful for all of your support and if you have any feedback or suggestions for our line up or would just like to reach out and say hello, we always welcome hearing from our listeners.  You can subscribe to the Great Women in Compliance podcast on any podcast player by searching for it and we welcome new subscribers to our podcast. Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here. 
12/8/202128 minutes, 2 seconds
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Alexis Wermuth-The Ideator

As with Lisa’s episode last week, Mary brings a memorable former colleague onto the Great Women in Compliance show, Alexis Wermuth. Alexis is a Compliance executive at Getinge, a medical device company. It is an exceptional few in Compliance who are creative or artistic. Alexis is one of those people and made an invaluable contribution to the internal marketing team at Fresenius Medical Care North America’s Compliance department (see episode with Sarah Hadden for more on this initiative). After talking about some of the risks in the medical device field, Alexis talks about injecting creativity into her Compliance program and reminisces with Mary about some of their favourite projects when working together with ideas for listeners to implement in their own programs.  After finishing up at Fresenius Medical Care, Alexis moved to New Jersey and discusses the considerations she weighed up when deciding to make the move and a new job opportunity. She also shares a favorite productivity hack. Lisa and Mary wish to extend deepest gratitude to listeners and readers who heeded the call to vote for their book “Sending the Elevator Back Down: What We’ve Learned from Great Women in Compliance” (CCI Press, 2020). The voting closed 1 December, the launch of this episode and the GWIC team eagerly awaits the outcome of the award process.  The Great Women in Compliance Podcast is on the Compliance Podcast Network with a selection of other Compliance related offerings to listen in to. If you are enjoying this episode, please rate it on your preferred podcast player to help other likeminded Ethics and Compliance professionals find it. You can also find the GWIC podcast on Corporate Compliance Insights where Lisa and Mary have a landing page with additional information about them and the story of the podcast. Corporate Compliance Insights is a much appreciated sponsor and supporter of GWIC, including affiliate organization CCI Press publishing the related book; “Sending the Elevator Back Down, What We’ve Learned from Great Women in Compliance” (CCI Press, 2020).
12/1/202139 minutes, 28 seconds
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Episode 128 – Kris Brown – Life After Compliance

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley.  For some people, working in ethics and compliance is a destination, and for others, it is a stop on the journey.  How do you figure that out?  In today's bonus episode, Lisa talks with Kris Brown, who is the President of Brady, which is the leading advocacy group in the United States to end gun violence.  Prior to joining Brady, she was the Chief Legal Officer at gategroup, and also worked at a large law firm. If this sounds a little familiar, that is because Kris is a colleague and mentor to Lisa, and in fact, got Lisa started on her career in compliance.  So Lisa and Mary thought that it would be good to share Kris's journey into -- and out of -- compliance. They discuss how Kris found herself in compliance, and how a significant fraud situation impacted her role, and was the backdrop of building a global compliance program.  She talks about what she has learned from that experience and how it applies to her day-to-day work and how what we do in E&C can transcend our roles. She also discusses what she sees as key attributes for a compliance officer in her view as she has transitioned out of a traditional legal role and into her current one. The Great Women in Compliance Podcast is on the Compliance Podcast Network with a selection of other Compliance related offerings to listen in to.  If you are enjoying this episode, please rate it on your preferred podcast player to help other likeminded Ethics and Compliance professionals find it.  You can also find the GWIC podcast on Corporate Compliance Insights where Lisa and Mary have a landing page with additional information about them and the story of the podcast.  Corporate Compliance Insights is a much-appreciated sponsor and supporter of GWIC, including affiliate organization CCI Press publishing the related book; “Sending the Elevator Back Down, What We’ve Learned from Great Women in Compliance” (CCI Press, 2020). If you’ve already read the booked and liked it, will you help out other women to make the decision to leverage off the tips and advice given by rating the book and giving it a glowing review on Amazon?   As always, we are so grateful for all of your support and if you have any feedback or suggestions for our line up or would just like to reach out and say hello, we always welcome hearing from our listeners.  You can subscribe to the Great Women in Compliance podcast on any podcast player by searching for it and we welcome new subscribers to our podcast. Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here. 
11/24/202139 minutes, 39 seconds
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Michelle Dewarrat-She's All That

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley.  Michelle Dewarrat has been incorporating corporate social responsibility into her Compliance program long before many of us started bandying about the term ESG. As today’s guest, Mary seeks Michelle’s advice for how to make a start thinking about the ESG topic for Compliance Officers grappling with introducing the concept into their workload. Currently, Michelle is Head of Compliance at CSG and has recently been building out her team after starting in her new role earlier this year.  She discusses the recruitment challenge of hiring during the Great Resignation and in light of there being very high demand for candidates, as well as how she has succeeded through the challenge. Michelle has climbed the corporate ladder while also raising her son as a single mum.  She talks about some of the lessons from the motherhood experience and how they’ve informed her approach in the office.   As they round up the episode, Michelle’s sharing of her music tastes leads Mary to reveal a secret shame.   The Great Women in Compliance Podcast is on the Compliance Podcast Network with a selection of other Compliance related offerings to listen in to.  If you are enjoying this episode, please rate it on your preferred podcast player to help other likeminded Ethics and Compliance professionals find it.  You can also find the GWIC podcast on Corporate Compliance Insights where Lisa and Mary have a landing page with additional information about them and the story of the podcast.  Corporate Compliance Insights is a much-appreciated sponsor and supporter of GWIC, including affiliate organization CCI Press publishing the related book; “Sending the Elevator Back Down, What We’ve Learned from Great Women in Compliance” (CCI Press, 2020). If you’ve already read the booked and liked it, will you help out other women to make the decision to leverage off the tips and advice given by rating the book and giving it a glowing review on Amazon?   As always, we are so grateful for all of your support and if you have any feedback or suggestions for our line up or would just like to reach out and say hello, we always welcome hearing from our listeners.  You can subscribe to the Great Women in Compliance podcast on any podcast player by searching for it and we welcome new subscribers to our podcast. Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here. 
11/17/202127 minutes, 35 seconds
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Michele Abraham on What Makes Up ESG

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley. ESG, CSR, Sustainability...it seems like the thing that everyone is talking about lately. In today's Great Women in Compliance podcast, Lisa speaks with Michele Abraham, Senior Director - Ethics & Compliance, Associate General Counsel at Cooper Standard. Michele is a leader in this area and has worked to integrate ethics and compliance and ESG. She talks about what she thinks that compliance officers must to when they are starting to develop an ESG program, and also how the "E" of ESG - "environmental" is often more operational, but the "S" and "G" - Social and Governance - is at the forefront of what E&C professionals are doing today. Michele is an advocate for Gretchen Ruben's "The Four Tendencies," which discusses four personality types and how to work with them. There is a quiz, so she is asked to guess Lisa's tendency. And she concludes with some of the best advice she received...from her mom. The Great Women in Compliance Podcast is on the Compliance Podcast Network with a selection of other Compliance related offerings to listen in to. If you are enjoying this episode, please rate it on your preferred podcast player to help other likeminded Ethics and Compliance professionals find it. You can also find the GWIC podcast on Corporate Compliance Insights where Lisa and Mary have a landing page with additional information about them and the story of the podcast. Corporate Compliance Insights is a much-appreciated sponsor and supporter of GWIC, including affiliate organization CCI Press publishing the related book; “Sending the Elevator Back Down, What We’ve Learned from Great Women in Compliance” (CCI Press, 2020). If you’ve already read the booked and liked it, will you help out other women to make the decision to leverage off the tips and advice given by rating the book and giving it a glowing review on Amazon?  As always, we are so grateful for all of your support and if you have any feedback or suggestions for our line up or would just like to reach out and say hello, we always welcome hearing from our listeners. You can subscribe to the Great Women in Compliance podcast on any podcast player by searching for it and we welcome new subscribers to our podcast. Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here.
11/10/202128 minutes, 49 seconds
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Lisa Fine

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley.  Thanks so much for the brilliant response to the Halloween episode, we’re glad it provided amusement and a fun way to commemorate Halloween. Today is Lisa’s turn to be interviewed by Mary.  Lisa shares her path to Compliance and talks about her specialist interest areas including some advice for conducting investigations.  Lisa reflects on the last year and discusses some opportunities for growth with respect to her role as a Compliance professional and as a person.  Join us for this episode to learn something new about Lisa! The Great Women in Compliance Podcast is on the Compliance Podcast Network with a selection of other Compliance related offerings to listen in to.  If you are enjoying this episode, please rate it on your preferred podcast player to help other likeminded Ethics and Compliance professionals find it.  You can also find the GWIC podcast on Corporate Compliance Insights where Lisa and Mary have a landing page with additional information about them and the story of the podcast.  Corporate Compliance Insights is a much-appreciated sponsor and supporter of GWIC, including affiliate organization CCI Press publishing the related book; “Sending the Elevator Back Down, What We’ve Learned from Great Women in Compliance” (CCI Press, 2020). If you’ve already read the booked and liked it, will you help out other women to make the decision to leverage off the tips and advice given by rating the book and giving it a glowing review on Amazon?   As always, we are so grateful for all of your support and if you have any feedback or suggestions for our line up or would just like to reach out and say hello, we always welcome hearing from our listeners.  You can subscribe to the Great Women in Compliance podcast on any podcast player by searching for it and we welcome new subscribers to our podcast. Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here. 
11/3/20211 hour, 6 minutes, 27 seconds
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Halloween Horror Stories

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley. As a nod to Halloween Lisa and Mary host a joint episode after Fall break which contains Compliance horror stories – we couldn’t accommodate all of the poor practice ghosting stories in the hiring process – please step it up the integrity hiring teams! The idea for this episode came about right at the beginning of the year when Mary was in conversation with GWIC and friend of the podcast Diana Trevley. Diana suggested a horror story episode to mark Halloween and have a laugh about the disasters experienced by GWIC. We’re very grateful to the numerous entries that we received and also offer heartfelt support to those going through horror stories that don’t have a humorous aspect. Keep holding on. Hear about compliance initiatives that were turned on their head, conflicts of interest come to life and life’s annoying moments in this episode. The Great Women in Compliance Podcast is on the Compliance Podcast Network with a selection of other Compliance related offerings to listen in to. If you are enjoying this episode, please rate it on your preferred podcast player to help other likeminded Ethics and Compliance professionals find it. You can also find the GWIC podcast on Corporate Compliance Insights where Lisa and Mary have a landing page with additional information about them and the story of the podcast. Corporate Compliance Insights is a much-appreciated sponsor and supporter of GWIC, including affiliate organization CCI Press publishing the related book; “Sending the Elevator Back Down, What We’ve Learned from Great Women in Compliance” (CCI Press, 2020). If you’ve already read the booked and liked it, will you help out other women to make the decision to leverage off the tips and advice given by rating the book and giving it a glowing review on Amazon?  As always, we are so grateful for all of your support and if you have any feedback or suggestions for our line up or would just like to reach out and say hello, we always welcome hearing from our listeners. You can subscribe to the Great Women in Compliance podcast on any podcast player by searching for it and we welcome new subscribers to our podcast. Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here.
10/27/20211 hour, 6 minutes, 27 seconds
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Cristina Revelo - Choose Your Adventure and Build Your Career

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley. Some people consider ethics and compliance officers as risk averse given our roles in organizations. However, so many people in our professional community have taken risks and evaluated opportunities for both their personal and professional lives. Today's guest is one of those people. Cristina Revelo started her career at KPMG, and then moved WalMart, and also relocated to Arkansas to take on this role. Today, she is Deputy Director, Corporate Monitoring and Compliance Services at Affiliated Monitors, Inc. Cristina talks about her experiences when she joined WalMart, and in particular about going to Colombia and taking on an interim country lead role.  She talks about opportunities that she took early on and challenges that she encountered, being less senior than some others and being a woman, There were also times where she looked at an opportunity and decided it was not the right one, and how she said no, without burning bridges and remaining open to new opportunities.   We also get to hear how it is going at Affiliated Monitors as it is a relatively new role for Cristina, and also talk a bit about our experience at SCCE CEI. We hope you enjoy this last episode of the summer/fall GWIC series. Corporate Compliance Insights is a much appreciated sponsor and supporter of GWIC, including affiliate organization CCI Press publishing the related book; “Sending the Elevator Back Down, What We’ve Learned from Great Women in Compliance” (CCI Press, 2020). Thank you to all those who have taken the time to rate the GWIC podcast and book, it’s much appreciated. If you’ve already read the booked and liked it, will you help out other women to make the decision to leverage off the tips and advice given by rating the book and giving it a glowing review on Amazon?  As always, we are so grateful for all of your support and if you have any feedback or suggestions for our line up or would just like to reach out and say hello, we always welcome hearing from our listeners. You can subscribe to the Great Women in Compliance podcast on any podcast player by searching for it and we welcome new subscribers to our podcast. Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here.
10/6/20211 hour, 6 minutes, 27 seconds
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Yuet Ming Tham on Investigations in Asia.

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley. This week the Great Women in Compliance podcast shines a spotlight on the Asia Pacific region again with Mary and guest Yuet Ming Tham getting into the nitty gritty of conducting investigations in Asia. They discuss common trends that Yuet has observed from her vantage point in international law firm private practice. One of the greatest headaches for Compliance Officers in recent years is dealing with data that is housed within text messaging or chat apps. Yuet gives her advice for companies to best control data flow and custody, as well as opines on whether there is still utility in conducting email reviews. This episode wraps up Mary’s last for the summer season and Lisa will conduct the last interview of the season next week. During their seasonal two-week break, Mary and Lisa will be preparing their next joint episode – a Halloween special on 27 October. They invite listeners to participate in the episode by sending Compliance horror stories to [email protected] to be included in the Halloween episode. The stories can be about things that have happened in your everyday Compliance duties life, work travel or applying for jobs. Corporate Compliance Insights is a much appreciated sponsor and supporter of GWIC, including affiliate organization CCI Press publishing the related book; “Sending the Elevator Back Down, What We’ve Learned from Great Women in Compliance” (CCI Press, 2020). Thank you to all those who have taken the time to rate the GWIC podcast and book, it’s much appreciated. If you’ve already read the booked and liked it, will you help out other women to make the decision to leverage off the tips and advice given by rating the book and giving it a glowing review on Amazon?  As always, we are so grateful for all of your support and if you have any feedback or suggestions for our 2021 line up or would just like to reach out and say hello, we always welcome hearing from our listeners. You can subscribe to the Great Women in Compliance podcast on any podcast player by searching for it and we welcome new subscribers to our podcast. Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here.
9/29/20211 hour, 6 minutes, 27 seconds
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Luciane Mallmann and Gina Green-Women in Global Compliance, Building a Community

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley.  As Lisa and Mary started the Great Women in Compliance, they envisioned a larger community of women and those who support the careers of women in ethics and compliance. In early 2021, Women in Compliance Global (WEC) was born, and, as they say, they "aspire to create an invaluable network of peers, learning, and career-building without borders and biases."  In just a short time, WEC has moved their mission and impacted women in ethics and compliance globally. In honor of that, Lisa and Mary did their first joint GWIC interview with Luciane Mallmann and Gina Green, who are the Chair and Vice-Chair of WEC. They discuss their journey to form WEC, everything that they have done thus far, and some exciting plans for the future. We also get to know these two women who are just a part of WEC's founding team. Luciane, Gina, Mary and Lisa also share some of the best advice they have received when dealing with challenges. You can learn more about WEC on their website and through LinkedIn. Corporate Compliance Insights is a much appreciated sponsor and supporter of GWIC, including affiliate organization CCI Press publishing the related book; “Sending the Elevator Back Down, What We’ve Learned from Great Women in Compliance” (CCI Press, 2020). Thank you to all those who have taken the time to rate the GWIC podcast and book, it’s much appreciated. If you’ve already read the booked and liked it, will you help out other women to make the decision to leverage off the tips and advice given by rating the book and giving it a glowing review on Amazon?   As always, we are so grateful for all of your support and if you have any feedback or suggestions for our 2021 line up or would just like to reach out and say hello, we always welcome hearing from our listeners.  You can subscribe to the Great Women in Compliance podcast on any podcast player by searching for it and we welcome new subscribers to our podcast. Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here. 
9/22/20211 hour, 6 minutes, 27 seconds
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Colleen Dorsey: Using AI and Machine Learning in Compliance

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley.  Colleen Dorsey, our Great Woman in Compliance of the week, is well known for influencing Compliance careers early – she leads the University of St Thomas Compliance programming, preparing our Compliance Officers of tomorrow. Get a behind the scenes look into the evolution of Compliance education at the tertiary level.  Also in this episode Colleen gives the GWIC listenership a run down on using Artificial Intelligence and Machine Learning in Compliance programs. In Compliance, as with everything else, it’s important to keep up with new developments and tools that can help us achieve our goals more accurately and more efficiently. Those who don’t keep up will most certainly get left behind. Fortunately Great Women in Compliance listeners are invested in their own professional development and keep up with the wealth of information provided by GWIC guests. Colleen gives basic understanding to lay the foundation of what AI and Machine Learning are and explains how these tools can be used to benefit Compliance programs, using a real life example and what the future might hold for these areas. Finally Colleen shares some of her wisdom surrounding self-awareness – you cannot improve yourself unless you know what you’re working with and where your gaps are so it’s important to be honest with yourself and be able to self-reflect objectively – with the help of others where necessary.  Mary weighs in with some sound practical advice from Organizational Psychologist Adam Grant with a tip to make soliciting feedback easier for yourself and those around you. Corporate Compliance Insights is a much appreciated sponsor and supporter of GWIC, including affiliate organization CCI Press publishing the related book; “Sending the Elevator Back Down, What We’ve Learned from Great Women in Compliance” (CCI Press, 2020). Thank you to all those who have taken the time to rate the GWIC podcast and book, it’s much appreciated. If you’ve already read the booked and liked it, will you help out other women to make the decision to leverage off the tips and advice given by rating the book and giving it a glowing review on Amazon?   As always, we are so grateful for all of your support and if you have any feedback or suggestions for our 2021 line up or would just like to reach out and say hello, we always welcome hearing from our listeners.  You can subscribe to the Great Women in Compliance podcast on any podcast player by searching for it and we welcome new subscribers to our podcast. Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here. 
9/15/20211 hour, 6 minutes, 27 seconds
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Lisa Looks Back on 9/11

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley.  Today is a special GWIC episode in remembrance of the 20th anniversary of 9/11. Lisa was in Washington, D.C., and she shares some of her personal recollections of that day, including the chaos as the day unfolded, the contrast of the beautiful sky that day and the fear, and the sense of community while at the same time knowing things would never be the same. It has also been on her mind over the past year, especially after living through the insurrection on January 6, and the similarities and differences between the events in 2001 and in 2021.   Lisa also reflects on how these two events have shaped her path and particularly about how she thinks about ethical decision-making and compliance. In particular, how global issues can be local, and how can we improve our local community - whether that is inside or outside our organizations. The Great Women in Compliance Podcast is on the Compliance Podcast Network with a selection of other Compliance related offerings to listen in to. If you are enjoying this episode, please rate it on your preferred podcast player to help other likeminded Ethics and Compliance professionals find it. You can also find the GWIC podcast on Corporate Compliance Insights where Lisa and Mary have a landing page with additional information about them and the story of the podcast.   Corporate Compliance Insights is a much appreciated sponsor and supporter of GWIC, including affiliate organization CCI Press publishing the related book; “Sending the Elevator Back Down, What We’ve Learned from Great Women in Compliance” (CCI Press, 2020). Thank you to all those who have taken the time to rate the GWIC podcast and book, it’s much appreciated. If you’ve already read the booked and liked it, will you help out other women to make the decision to leverage off the tips and advice given by rating the book and giving it a glowing review on Amazon?   As always, we are so grateful for all of your support and if you have any feedback or suggestions for our 2021 line up or would just like to reach out and say hello, we always welcome hearing from our listeners.  You can subscribe to the Great Women in Compliance podcast on any podcast player by searching for it and we welcome new subscribers to our podcast. Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here. 
9/8/20211 hour, 6 minutes, 27 seconds
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Sofia Tirini-Global Policy and Compliance

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley.  At the Great Women in Compliance podcast, we strive to find a variety of different voices, view points and vantage points to canvas a large number of perspectives from various practitioners of Compliance across the globe. For this week’s episode, we’ve invited Sofia Tirini who works at the OECD in Paris. Sofia shares some of her experiences, including the educational background she pursued in Compliance and how she got into her line of work. Sofia also shares some tips for listeners who would also be interested in a stint with the OECD themselves. One of Sofia’s interest areas is in the role of youth in the fight against corruption. Tune in to this episode to hear about this angle. The OECD is a great organization to follow for anti-corruption and integrity resources – Mary in particular recommends looking out for their studies which can provide useful hard data – check out their website here: https://www.oecd.org/corruption-integrity/ The Great Women in Compliance Podcast is on the Compliance Podcast Network with a selection of other Compliance related offerings to listen in to. If you are enjoying this episode, please rate it on your preferred podcast player to help other likeminded Ethics and Compliance professionals find it. You can also find the GWIC podcast on Corporate Compliance Insights where Lisa and Mary have a landing page with additional information about them and the story of the podcast.  Corporate Compliance Insights is a much appreciated sponsor and supporter of GWIC, including affiliate organization CCI Press publishing the related book; “Sending the Elevator Back Down, What We’ve Learned from Great Women in Compliance” (CCI Press, 2020). Thank you to all those who have taken the time to rate the GWIC podcast and book, it’s much appreciated. If you’ve already read the booked and liked it, will you help out other women to make the decision to leverage off the tips and advice given by rating the book and giving it a glowing review on Amazon?  As always, we are so grateful for all of your support and if you have any feedback or suggestions for our 2021 line up or would just like to reach out and say hello, we always welcome hearing from our listeners. You can subscribe to the Great Women in Compliance podcast on any podcast player by searching for it and we welcome new subscribers to our podcast Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here. 
9/1/20211 hour, 6 minutes, 27 seconds
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Rashada Timkee-Community Outreach and Compliance

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley.  One of the best things about the Great Women in Compliance podcast is the community that we have built, and it is the theme of this week's episode.  Lisa interviews Rashada Timkee, Compliance Risk Management Officer, VP, at Citibank, and has built her community with a service mindset.  Rashada has been involved in various outreach activities over several years, which pre-dates her compliance career, and that work has shaped her views and ways of working. Rashada is a first-generation college graduate and continues to give back.  Rashada has used her background in the banking industry and retail to support underserved communities and has been a mentor and support to many people - and she has pivoted to new volunteer endeavors online during this pandemic.  She talks about how this outreach has also strengthened her work with her team and others. They also discuss Rashada's commitment to Diversity, Equity and Inclusion, and her reflections on this and where we need to go as a compliance community.  We also ask Rashada what advice she would give to her daughter or younger self...and it is advice benefits anyone. The Great Women in Compliance Podcast is on the Compliance Podcast Network with a selection of other Compliance related offerings to listen in to.  If you are enjoying this episode, please rate it on your preferred podcast player to help other likeminded Ethics and Compliance professionals find it.  You can also find the GWIC podcast on Corporate Compliance Insights where Lisa and Mary have a landing page with additional information about them and the story of the podcast.  Corporate Compliance Insights is a much appreciated sponsor and supporter of GWIC, including affiliate organization CCI Press publishing the related book; “Sending the Elevator Back Down: What We’ve Learned from Great Women in Compliance” (CCI Press, 2020). As always, we are so grateful for all of your support and if you have any feedback or suggestions for our 2021 line up or would just like to reach out and say hello, we always welcome hearing from our listeners.  We welcome any feedback you may wish to send in to [email protected]. You can subscribe to the Great Women in Compliance podcast on any podcast player by searching for it and we welcome new subscribers to our podcast. Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here.
8/25/202130 minutes, 53 seconds
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Jared Knapp – Respect and Dignity in the Compliance Hiring Process

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley.  Today’s guest is another Compliance professional that Mary met through volunteering with Compliance Career Connection (CCC).  CCC was formed in the fall of 2020 as a support system for peers in the difficult position of seeking new employment during the pandemic.  It is a group that runs at least monthly events encompassing an activity to help exercise skills required in the job search process.  Jared Knapp is also on the CCC leadership team and a trade governance expert.  He joins Mary in this bonus episode to discuss respect and dignity in the Compliance hiring process.  As Ethics and Compliance professionals, isn’t the onus on us to act ethically when building out our teams?  Jared and Mary think so and outline some of the common grievances job seekers are facing. The discussion focuses on broken aspects of the hiring process and what Jared envisages can be done to make the experience an overall better one for candidates, as well as one that Ethics and Compliance professionals can be proud to be associated with.  He also shares some trade sanctions wisdom to close out the day’s discussion.  The Great Women in Compliance Podcast is on the Compliance Podcast Network with a selection of other Compliance related offerings to listen in to.  If you are enjoying this episode, please rate it on your preferred podcast player to help other likeminded Ethics and Compliance professionals find it.  You can also find the GWIC podcast on Corporate Compliance Insights where Lisa and Mary have a landing page with additional information about them and the story of the podcast.  Corporate Compliance Insights is a much appreciated sponsor and supporter of GWIC, including affiliate organization CCI Press publishing the related book; “Sending the Elevator Back Down: What We’ve Learned from Great Women in Compliance” (CCI Press, 2020).   As always, we are so grateful for all of your support and if you have any feedback or suggestions for our 2021 line up or would just like to reach out and say hello, we always welcome hearing from our listeners.  We welcome any feedback you may wish to send in to [email protected]. You can subscribe to the Great Women in Compliance podcast on any podcast player by searching for it and we welcome new subscribers to our podcast. Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here.
8/18/202137 minutes, 52 seconds
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Ellen Hunt - Speaking up and Retaliations: Compliance’s Role

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley.  Today's episode is a "ripped from the headlines" one, where Ellen Hunt joins GWIC talk about some of the recent events of the last couple of weeks that put a light on raising concerns, whistleblowing and retaliation. Ellen is Vice President ~ Compliance Program Operations & Chief Privacy Officer at LifePoint Health, and a leader, sponsor and advocate for everyone in the ethics and compliance space. In this discussion, Lisa and Ellen discuss some of the recent developments in the ActiVision/Blizzard fallout from the lawsuit, and the report that came out about Governor Andrew Cuomo last week. Lisa and Ellen reflect on the reaction of the ActiVision leadership, and how we as compliance officers can best address these kinds of issues. More deeply, they reflect on how to balance all our work to build a speak up culture with the need to protect those who raise concerns. They talk specifically about the fear of retaliation.   They try to identify the problems that are in the spotlight right now and Ellen in particular provides her insight into some solutions of how we in the E&C community can do better. Our profession, and the GWIC community, is based on supporting ethical decision making, so we are so grateful to Ellen to speaking and being so candid on this difficult topic.   The Great Women in Compliance Podcast is on the Compliance Podcast Network with a selection of other Compliance related offerings to listen in to. If you are enjoying this episode, please rate it on your preferred podcast player to help other likeminded Ethics and Compliance professionals find it. You can also find the GWIC podcast on Corporate Compliance Insights where Lisa and Mary have a landing page with additional information about them and the story of the podcast. Corporate Compliance Insights is a much appreciated sponsor and supporter of GWIC, including affiliate organization CCI Press publishing the related book; “Sending the Elevator Back Down: What We’ve Learned from Great Women in Compliance” (CCI Press, 2020). As always, we are so grateful for all of your support and if you have any feedback or suggestions for our 2021 line up or would just like to reach out and say hello, we always welcome hearing from our listeners. We welcome any feedback you may wish to send in to [email protected]. You can subscribe to the Great Women in Compliance podcast on any podcast player by searching for it and we welcome new subscribers to our podcast. Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here.
8/11/202142 minutes, 1 second
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Samantha Kelen-Let’s Get Real

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley. Mary’s first guest of this season is Samantha Kelen appearing in “Let’s Get Real”. The two GWIC have gotten to know each other through their volunteer work on the leadership team of Compliance Career Connection, another wonderful example of how when you choose to send the elevator back down, inevitably you will be enriched as well. Sam’s episode has a focus on being genuine, authentic and quite simply, human in this week’s episode, not only in respect of being a Compliance professional, which is a fairly commonly accepted key to being successful in the field, but also as a leader in Compliance with responsibility setting tone and a role modeling example for a team. Samantha and Mary discuss some of the limitations of the concept of bringing your whole self to work, how vulnerability needs to be tempered with a filter and maintaining some semblance of professionalism. They also talk about how women oftentimes need to consider the repercussions about being direct or offering alternative opinions as coming across negatively, fairly or not. The Great Women in Compliance Podcast is on the Compliance Podcast Network with a selection of other Compliance related offerings to listen in to. If you are enjoying this episode, please rate it on your preferred podcast player to help other likeminded Ethics and Compliance professionals find it. You can also find the GWIC podcast on Corporate Compliance Insights where Lisa and Mary have a landing page with additional information about them and the story of the podcast. Corporate Compliance Insights is a much appreciated sponsor and supporter of GWIC, including affiliate organization CCI Press publishing the related book; “Sending the Elevator Back Down: What We’ve Learned from Great Women in Compliance” (CCI Press, 2020). As always, we are so grateful for all of your support and if you have any feedback or suggestions for our 2021 line up or would just like to reach out and say hello, we always welcome hearing from our listeners. We welcome any feedback you may wish to send in to [email protected]. You can subscribe to the Great Women in Compliance podcast on any podcast player by searching for it and we welcome new subscribers to our podcast. Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here.
8/4/202143 minutes, 22 seconds
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Jenna Waters: Cybersecurity and Compliance

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley.  In this episode, Lisa talks with Jenna Waters, Cybersecurity Consultant at True Digital Security. Jenna has had a unique journey into compliance, as she enlisted in the Navy, was in counterintelligence, and then focusing on STEM in college. Jenna talks about the responsibility of being in the intelligence field in national security, what it is like to lead a team as a young woman in the military and how she decided on her career path. She also discusses key things to keep in mind as an ethics and compliance officer as you look at data security, and the importance of appropriate, objective risk assessments. She also distinguishes between cybersecurity and cyber-reactivity, and what that can mean for you and your organization - and how not preparing for cyberattacks can lead to reputational damage and loss of confidence by customers. And for those of you who are "Harry Potter" fans, we get into a discussion about which house and character each one would want to be (or would want, in Lisa's case).  We hope that you enjoyed this episode and welcome any feedback you may wish to send in to [email protected]. For those of you in the northern hemisphere, it is the season for beach reads and you may be traveling after a long break. For your time off, you can pick up a copy (or download) “Sending the Elevator Back Down: What We’ve Learned from Great Women in Compliance” (CCI Press, 2020).If you’ve already read the booked and liked it, will you help out other women to make the decision to leverage off the tips and advice given by rating the book and giving it a glowing review on Amazon?  As always, we are so grateful for all of your support and if you have any feedback or suggestions for our 2021 line up or would just like to reach out and say hello, we always welcome hearing from our listeners. You can subscribe to the Great Women in Compliance podcast on any podcast player by searching for it and we welcome new subscribers to our podcast. Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here.
7/28/202137 minutes, 25 seconds
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The Lightning Round: Surprise Listener Questions for Mary and Lisa

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley.  Lisa and Mary welcome listeners back to a new season with hot seat questions put forward by their audience without time to prepare. They also give a spoiler alert for their next joint episode as something to look forward to and think about your submissions for the future. Here are the questions Lisa and Mary tackled in this episode:   ·       How do you continue to learn in order to stay on top of things in your role? ·       “If your ideal compliance leader was an animal, which animal, and why?” ·       When did you realize that GWIC has grown from the podcast to a larger community?  Was there a moment for you? ·       If you had an extra $10k and had to spend it within the month- what would you do (personal or professional)? ·       As someone who is a global traveler, when you get to go home to New Zealand, once you recover from the flight, what is the first “local”/hometown thing you want? ·       Is it ever okay for an E&C investigator to employ deception when interviewing a subject? I've worked at companies that allow very limited exceptions and others that say "never." A common exception involves a subject who might figure out who the reporter is (and then retaliate against her/him). As we seek to do everything and anything possible to prevent retaliation against reporters, the investigator might say to the subject during an interview (in a situation where the internal reporter is known to the investigator), "Please make no effort to guess or otherwise identify the reporter. Doing so risks violating our anti-retaliation policy. The reporter may be anonymous or from outside the company--it doesn't matter. The bottom line is, you must refrain from trying to determine or conclude who it is." Of course, nothing in this example is a lie, but it is deceptive given the investigator knows the reporter isn't external or anonymous. Certain countries may have laws or regulations that answer this question but, importantly, the standards of an E&C investigation--at least in the United States--are not the same as a government-led investigation.  Also, many E&C investigators are not licensed attorneys, so there are no "licensed professional" restrictions to consider. So, , do you think it's okay for an E&C investigator, in rare and previously identified instances, to deceive an interviewee when doing so likely could have a material effect on protecting a reporter from retaliation? ·       What’s the biggest area (related to your current role) you are curious about and why? ·       What are some of the things you are researching right now? (Could be personal- could be professional, could be vague) ·       If there was one thing you could change about the way Compliance is perceived by people outside the profession, what would it be? ·       We often hear of the importance of the birds and the bees.  But in the compliance world, if you could only pick the attributes of one, which would it be and why?   We hope that you enjoyed this episode and welcome any feedback you may wish to send in to [email protected].
7/21/202142 minutes, 46 seconds
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Ryan Rushing, Designing and Compliancing with Pride

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley. Mary and Lisa are delighted to release a special episode that honors and celebrates Pride month. There is even distinctive and special cover art for this episode – check it out!   Our guest today is Ryan Rushing, a graphic design artist at Broadcat. We discuss two main themes with Ryan, leveraging off her specialist skillset of communicating by way of designed documentation as well as how to be a better ally to transgender colleagues in the workplace as well as in a wider societal context. Ryan came out as trans during the pandemic and shares a piece of her story as well as some considerations to help trans and other LGBTQ+ members feel included and respected. This is a must listen episode and the perfect way for the GWIC team to close the season. Lisa and Mary wish their listeners the joy and beauty of all the colors of the rainbow, always and a very happy Pride Month. They sign off for two weeks and invite you to be a part of their kickoff episode for next season which will be an impromptu Q&A. Neither Lisa nor Mary will have time to prepare their answers in advance. Send your questions for Lisa to Mary and your questions for Mary to Lisa!  Look out for the next GWIC episode which will be out on July 21, 2021! For those of you in the northern hemisphere, it is the season for beach reads and you may be traveling after a long break. For your time off, you can pick up a copy (or download) “Sending the Elevator Back Down: What We’ve Learned from Great Women in Compliance” (CCI Press, 2020). If you’ve already read the booked and liked it, will you help out other women to make the decision to leverage off the tips and advice given by rating the book and giving it a glowing review on Amazon? As always, we are so grateful for all of your support and if you have any feedback or suggestions for our 2021 line up or would just like to reach out and say hello, we always welcome hearing from our listeners. You can subscribe to the Great Women in Compliance podcast on any podcast player by searching for it and we welcome new subscribers to our podcast. Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here.
6/30/20211 hour, 6 minutes, 27 seconds
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Lloydette Bai Marrow, the Compliance Entrepreneur

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley. In this episode, Lisa speaks with Lloydette Bai Marrow, who is the Founder and Principal Consultant of ParaMetric Global Consulting.  Lloydette is based in London, and prior to starting ParaMetric, she was a Principal Investigative Lawyer within the UK Government’s Serious Fraud Office, and a prosecutor in various UK governmental agencies. Lloydette comes from a very entrepreneurial family and took that mindset and her own experience to build her consultancy. She talks about how she identified what she wanted to do when she left the SFO, and how she and ParaMetric have grown. In particular, she talks about how her experience as a prosecutor has been a great asset, but also how she has adapted to collaborating with organizations in her current role. On the other side, she has used her experience to train investigators and prosecutors in Sierra Leone and globally to help build stronger anti-corruption prosecutions. The Great Women in Compliance Podcast is proudly featured on the Compliance Podcast Network and sponsored by Corporate Compliance Insights. If you enjoyed this episode please subscribe to the podcast and rate it on your podcast player to help other compliance professionals find it.  For those of you in the northern hemisphere, it is the season for beach reads and you may be traveling after a long break. For your time off, you can pick up a copy (or download) “Sending the Elevator Back Down: What We’ve Learned from Great Women in Compliance” (CCI Press, 2020). If you’ve already read the booked and liked it, will you help out other women to make the decision to leverage off the tips and advice given by rating the book and giving it a glowing review on Amazon?  As always, we are so grateful for all of your support and if you have any feedback or suggestions for our 2021 line up or would just like to reach out and say hello, we always welcome hearing from our listeners. You can subscribe to the Great Women in Compliance podcast on any podcast player by searching for it and we welcome new subscribers to our podcast. Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here.
6/23/202129 minutes, 15 seconds
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Karen Moore: Slide Door Moments to a Career in Compliance

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley. Karen Moore came highly recommended to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, including by one of her very own team members. There’s not much better a signal than that that someone is a strong and well respected leader. In this episode Karen and Mary talk about what brought Karen such a great degree of success in her career, including the seemingly inconsequential decision she made in high school to accessorize herself to look cool which led to the international adventures in Compliance Karen has had. The conversation canvasses an array of subjects from there including Karen’s learnings as an adjunct professor, speculation about the future of data privacy/protection law in the United States (yes, we’re doing futurist predictions today), and a lesson learned the hard way. The Great Women in Compliance Podcast is proudly featured on the Compliance Podcast Network and sponsored by Corporate Compliance Insights. If you enjoyed this episode please subscribe to the podcast and rate it on your podcast player to help other compliance professionals find it. Want to hear more from us? We have a book, “Sending the Elevator Back Down: What We’ve Learned from Great Women in Compliance” (CCI Press, 2020). If you’ve already read the booked and liked it, will you help out other women to make the decision to leverage off the tips and advice given by rating the book and giving it a glowing review on Amazon?  As always, we are so grateful for all of your support and if you have any feedback or suggestions for our 2021 line up or would just like to reach out and say hello, we always welcome hearing from our listeners. You can subscribe to the Great Women in Compliance podcast on any podcast player by searching for it and we welcome new subscribers to our podcast. Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here.
6/16/202136 minutes, 51 seconds
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Susan Liautaud: Making Good Choices in a Complicated World

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley.  In this episode, Lisa speaks with Dr. Susan Liautaud who is the author of " The Power of Ethics: How to Make Good Choices in a Complicated World." She teaches ethics at Stanford University, is the founder of The Ethics Incubator, which is a non-profit, non-profit, independent, cross-sector laboratory and collaborative platform for innovative ethics in our changing world, from AI to our daily lives.  One of the things that make her approach so unique is the manner in which she makes thinking about ethics and decisions approachable and practical. She has outlined 6 forces driving ethics, and Lisa and Susan talk about two in detail, as well as some practical tips for practitioners. For those of you who listen regularly, you know Lisa is a big fan of Dax Shephard's Armchair Expert podcast, and was so excited to hear an episode with a leader in ethics. Lisa took the advice that she and Mary give to many and reached out to Susan through email and LinkedIn and Susan graciously took the time to participate in GWIC and give us her perspective. The Great Women in Compliance Podcast is proudly featured on the Compliance Podcast Network and sponsored by Corporate Compliance Insights. If you enjoyed this episode please subscribe to the podcast and rate it on your podcast player to help other compliance professionals find it. Want to hear more from us? We have a book, “Sending the Elevator Back Down: What We’ve Learned from Great Women in Compliance” (CCI Press, 2020). If you’ve already read the booked and liked it, will you help out other women to make the decision to leverage off the tips and advice given by rating the book and giving it a glowing review on Amazon?  As always, we are so grateful for all of your support and if you have any feedback or suggestions for our 2021 line up or would just like to reach out and say hello, we always welcome hearing from our listeners. You can subscribe to the Great Women in Compliance podcast on any podcast player by searching for it and we welcome new subscribers to our podcast. Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here.
6/9/202131 minutes, 51 seconds
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Fernanda Beraldi on The Power of One

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley. In the episode entitled “The Power of One” Mary Shirley and Fernanda Beraldi talk about an initiative Fernanda has worked on in her community to help bring Compliance principles and techniques to a wider number of organizations. Oftentimes smaller companies don’t have the resources available to them to implement full. We focus on the idea that small ripples can create great waves and how one person’s efforts can truly change the world of those around them. We also talk about how to incorporate a sense of balance for people who thrive on hustle – getting things done as a mover and shaker can exhilarating and satisfying but also can be tiring and draining for those constantly on the go. These types of people often find it hard to say no. Mary and Fernanda discuss what it’s like to be people who like to keep a full plate and give back whole-heartedly while setting boundaries, particularly when it comes to having to diplomatically turn someone down. The Great Women in Compliance Podcast is proudly featured on the Compliance Podcast Network and sponsored by Corporate Compliance Insights. If you enjoyed this episode please subscribe to the podcast and rate it on your podcast player to help other compliance professionals find it. Want to hear more from us? We have a book, “Sending the Elevator Back Down: What We’ve Learned from Great Women in Compliance” (CCI Press, 2020). If you’ve already read the booked and liked it, will you help out other women to make the decision to leverage off the tips and advice given by rating the book and giving it a glowing review on Amazon?  As always, we are so grateful for all of your support and if you have any feedback or suggestions for our 2021 line up or would just like to reach out and say hello, we always welcome hearing from our listeners. You can subscribe to the Great Women in Compliance podcast on any podcast player by searching for it and we welcome new subscribers to our podcast. Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here.
6/2/202152 minutes, 39 seconds
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Boon Kim Fam on Perspectives from a Compliance Practitioner in China

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley.  In this week’s episode we travel to the other side of the world to meet with Boon Kim Fam of PVH Corporation. Kim is a Malaysian national living as an expat in China, one of the most interesting jurisdictions for Compliance developments. Mary and Kim sit down for a lengthy session running the gamut from key risks in the apparel/retail industry, the social credit system in China, observations of local anti-corruption enforcement, the role of the Compliance Officer as a leader in an organization and Kim’s takeaways from “Sending the Elevator Back Down, What We’ve Learned from Great Women in Compliance”   The Great Women in Compliance Podcast is on the Compliance Podcast Network with a selection of other Compliance related offerings to listen in to. If you are enjoying this episode, please rate it on your preferred podcast player to help other likeminded Ethics and Compliance professionals find it. You can also find the GWIC podcast on Corporate Compliance Insights where Lisa and Mary have a landing page with additional information about them and the story of the podcast. Corporate Compliance Insights is a much appreciated sponsor and supporter of GWIC, including affiliate organization CCI Press publishing the related book; “Sending the Elevator Back Down, What We’ve Learned from Great Women in Compliance” (CCI Press, 2020). If you’ve already read the booked and liked it, will you help out other women to make the decision to leverage off the tips and advice given by rating the book and giving it a glowing review on Amazon?  As always, we are so grateful for all of your support and if you have any feedback or suggestions for our 2021 line up or would just like to reach out and say hello, we always welcome hearing from our listeners. You can subscribe to the Great Women in Compliance podcast on any podcast player by searching for it and we welcome new subscribers to our podcast. Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here.
5/26/20211 hour, 9 minutes, 47 seconds
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Dr. Pat Harned, Part 2

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley.  One of the best parts of GWIC is that we get the opportunity to speak with some of the trailblazers in our field. In the next two episodes, Lisa talks with Pat Harned, the CEO of the Ethics and Compliance Initiative (ECI). Today, Lisa gets to learn about Pat's background, what led her to working at ECI and how the organization evolved before and during her leadership. Pat talks about her experience as a woman in our field and as a CEO. In this episode, we have Part 2 of Lisa's discussion with Pat Harned, the CEO of the Ethics and Compliance Initiative (ECI). In Part 1, they discussed ECI, its mission, the recently released Global Business Ethics Survey (GBES) and Pat's journey to her leadership of ECO. In Part 2, Lisa and Pat discuss the IMPACT Conference, and focus on one of the keynote discussions about reporting and speaking up and retaliation. They discuss the trends identified globally and in the US in the GBES, and the analysis of the data received from the survey participants. Pat also provides guidance and insight about retaliation and the perception of retaliation both in the US and throughout the world, and how the social justice movements and COVID have impacted them. Pat concludes the discussion with some of the knowledge and advice that she would have liked to have known when she started her career.  We are very lucky in the E&C Community to have so many strong organizations for us to build and grow our professions, and fortunate to have a woman like Pat helming ECI. The Great Women in Compliance Podcast is proudly featured on the Compliance Podcast Network and sponsored by Corporate Compliance Insights. If you enjoyed this episode please subscribe to the podcast and rate it on your podcast player to help other compliance professionals find it. Want to hear more from us? We have a book, “Sending the Elevator Back Down: What We’ve Learned from Great Women in Compliance” (CCI Press, 2020) which is available on Amazon.com and Book Depository. If you’ve already read the booked and liked it, will you help out other women to make the decision to leverage off the tips and advice given by rating the book and giving it a glowing review on Amazon?  As always, we are so grateful for all of your support and if you have any feedback or suggestions for our 2021 line up or would just like to reach out and say hello, we always welcome hearing from our listeners. You can subscribe to the Great Women in Compliance podcast on any podcast player by searching for it and we welcome new subscribers to our podcast. Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here.
5/19/202125 minutes, 6 seconds
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Dr. Pat Harned, Part 1-The Compliance Trailblazer

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley.  One of the best parts of GWIC is that we get the opportunity to speak with some of the trailblazers in our field. In the next two episodes, Lisa talks with Pat Harned, the CEO of the Ethics and Compliance Initiative (ECI). Today, Lisa gets to learn about Pat's background, what led her to working at ECI and how the organization evolved before and during her leadership. Pat talks about her experience as a woman in our field and as a CEO, This first episode also discusses what ECI does, including the recent ECI IMPACT 2021 conference which was at the end of April. The keynotes and discussions included speakers from outside the E&C function, providing a different perspective in areas like corporate culture. Corporate culture is also a significant part of the Global Business Ethics Survey Trends Report, what was also released this year.  Pat highlights some of the key findings, and a few surprises they saw along the way, and how we can take a critical look at our function to work towards a more diverse profession as a whole. The Great Women in Compliance Podcast is proudly featured on the Compliance Podcast Network and sponsored by Corporate Compliance Insights. If you enjoyed this episode please subscribe to the podcast and rate it on your podcast player to help other compliance professionals find it. Want to hear more from us? We have a book, “Sending the Elevator Back Down: What We’ve Learned from Great Women in Compliance” (CCI Press, 2020) which is available on Amazon.com and Book Depository. If you’ve already read the booked and liked it, will you help out other women to make the decision to leverage off the tips and advice given by rating the book and giving it a glowing review on Amazon?  As always, we are so grateful for all of your support and if you have any feedback or suggestions for our 2021 line up or would just like to reach out and say hello, we always welcome hearing from our listeners. You can subscribe to the Great Women in Compliance podcast on any podcast player by searching for it and we welcome new subscribers to our podcast. Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here.
5/12/202127 minutes, 2 seconds
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Selena Evans, Innovating and Creating Brave Spaces in Compliance

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley.  As we continue our Spring series we bring Selena Evans onto the show to talk about her Brave Space initiative which is an award winning endeavor, including what other companies can do to build something similar.  This episode also focuses on innovation, particularly how to combat the downsides of innovation.  Often when it comes to this topic we are inclined to talk about the positives of moving the dial, the benefits that come with creativity, inspiration and establishing new best practices.  However naturally when new processes or tools are brought in, that means that some aspects of the status quo need to fall by the wayside.  Colleagues who put in place the previous systems can feel discouraged or even resentful.  Similarly when someone brings a fresh idea that proves popular and receives praise for it, the feelings of those around them can cause resentment due to the positive attention lavished on someone else in the team.  We discuss those elephants in the room and how a Compliance practitioner can better navigate those troubled political waters.  Selena shares with us the best advice she has received from a mentor and Mary wraps up the episode with learnings from one of the biggest FCPA cases of 2020 – the Goldman Sachs case. The Great Women in Compliance Podcast is proudly featured on the Compliance Podcast Network and sponsored by Corporate Compliance Insights.  If you enjoyed this episode please subscribe to the podcast and rate it on your podcast player to help other compliance professionals find it.  Want to hear more from us?  We have a book, “Sending the Elevator Back Down: What We’ve Learned from Great Women in Compliance” (CCI Press, 2020) which is available on Amazon.com and Book Depository. If you’ve already read the booked and liked it, will you help out other women to make the decision to leverage off the tips and advice given by rating the book and giving it a glowing review on Amazon?   As always, we are so grateful for all of your support and if you have any feedback or suggestions for our 2021 line up or would just like to reach out and say hello, we always welcome hearing from our listeners.  You can subscribe to the Great Women in Compliance podcast on any podcast player by searching for it and we welcome new subscribers to our podcast. Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here. 
5/5/202132 minutes, 25 seconds
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Michelle Beistle, When a Planet is Your Internal Client

As April is Earth Month, GWIC thought it would be a great time to talk to one of the people who works in E&C and also to protect our natural resources and environment.  Michelle Beistle is the as Chief Ethics, Compliance & Privacy Officer at The Nature Conservancy, and started there in April 2019.  Michelle was one of GWIC's first guests, where she spoke about her path and how she got into compliance through her privacy work.  Her former role was as Counsel and Chief Compliance Officer - Privacy & Ethics at Unisys. Michelle talks about the similarities and the differences that she has encountered moving into a non-profit, as well as her excitement about working in a mission-driven organization.  She also talks about how COVID and the social justice movement have impacted TNC, and how they speak out on behalf of other social causes. TNC also had a change in leadership, so she discusses that change, and how to navigate that as an E&C professional.  And, as it is Earth Month, Lisa took advantage of her knowledge to get some information on events and Michelle's most practical tip on how you can impact the environment every day.  The Great Women in Compliance Podcast is proudly featured on the Compliance Podcast Network and sponsored by Corporate Compliance Insights.  If you enjoyed this episode please subscribe to the podcast and rate it on your podcast player to help other compliance professionals find it.  Want to hear more from us?  We have a book, “Sending the Elevator Back Down: What We’ve Learned from Great Women in Compliance” (CCI Press, 2020) which is available on Amazon.com and Book Depository. If you’ve already read the booked and liked it, will you help out other women to make the decision to leverage off the tips and advice given by rating the book and giving it a glowing review on Amazon?   As always, we are so grateful for all of your support and if you have any feedback or suggestions for our 2021 line up or would just like to reach out and say hello, we always welcome hearing from our listeners.  You can subscribe to the Great Women in Compliance podcast on any podcast player by searching for it and we welcome new subscribers to our podcast. Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here. 
4/28/202121 minutes, 55 seconds
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Lisa Krigsten, Crisis Management and the E&C Professional

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley.  First, thanks to all who sent messages, encouragement, comments and thoughts related to Great Women in Compliance's 100th episode. We are so appreciative and excited for the next 100. So to start out our spring sessions, here is episode 101 where Lisa is starting some discussions about crisis management and how ethics and compliance professionals can help guide and provide the best impact when a crisis occurs. In the first discussion, Lisa speaks with Lisa Krigsten, who is a partner in the white collar and governmental investigations group at Dentons, as well as the managing partner of the Kansas City office. Before joining Dentons, Lisa received a presidential appointment to serve as a Principal Deputy Assistant Attorney General within the DOJ in Washington, DC, and has also been a federal and state prosecutor.   When Lisa was in the government, she prosecuted police officers and departments. In that role, she had a first-hand look at when people start to justify certain actions, and some of the things she addresses and learned are particularly relevant today. Today, Lisa is one of the people that you call in when a crisis occurs. She talks us through how she defines a crisis, initial steps to take, and some of the common threads she has seen when advising organizations. She also reinforces the importance of an organization's culture and the ability for employees at all levels to speak up. Lisa also talks about moving from Washington, D.C., back to Kansas City, which is in the midwest of the United States.  Not only does she speak about having a regional as well as a global practice, she also includes some information about all the great things about Kansas City. The Great Women in Compliance Podcast is proudly featured on the Compliance Podcast Network and sponsored by Corporate Compliance Insights. If you enjoyed this episode please subscribe to the podcast and rate it on your podcast player to help other compliance professionals find it. Want to hear more from us? We have a book, “Sending the Elevator Back Down: What We’ve Learned from Great Women in Compliance” (CCI Press, 2020) which is available on Amazon.com and Book Depository. If you’ve already read the booked and liked it, will you help out other women to make the decision to leverage off the tips and advice given by rating the book and giving it a glowing review on Amazon?  As always, we are so grateful for all of your support and if you have any feedback or suggestions for our 2021 line up or would just like to reach out and say hello, we always welcome hearing from our listeners. You can subscribe to the Great Women in Compliance podcast on any podcast player by searching for it and we welcome new subscribers to our podcast.
4/21/202130 minutes, 41 seconds
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Special 100th Anniversary Episode-GWICies

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley.  Wow...100 episodes! It seems like yesterday and eons ago at the same time that we talked about starting the GWIC podcast. A little over 2 years and at episode 100 it seemed like a great time to reflect on where we started and the amazing community that has grown around the GWIC community. In this episode, Mary and Lisa share some listener feedback about what has resonated with them, what they have learned, and some wonderful memories about past discussions. They also give out some "GWICies," which are recognition of some different organizations, people and work in the E&C community and also a "thank you" to many who help them put together the episodes and keep the podcast and the community evolving. GWIC will be taking a spring hiatus, but we are excited to be back on April 21st with new episodes. And, thank YOU for making the Great Women in Compliance podcast what it has become today. We like to share advice and tips on the podcast via our learned guests but some things don’t have immediate answers, including some aspects of what we’ve canvassed today. If you’d like to share your thoughts on the issues raised, we invite you to connect with us at [email protected]. The Great Women in Compliance Podcast is proudly featured on the Compliance Podcast Network and sponsored by Corporate Compliance Insights. If you enjoyed this episode please subscribe to the podcast and rate it on your podcast player to help other compliance professionals find it. Want to hear more from us? We have a book, “Sending the Elevator Back Down: What We’ve Learned from Great Women in Compliance” (CCI Press, 2020) which is available on Amazon.com and Book Depository. If you’ve already read the booked and liked it, will you help out other women to make the decision to leverage off the tips and advice given by rating the book and giving it a glowing review on Amazon?  As always, we are so grateful for all of your support and if you have any feedback or suggestions for our 2021 line up or would just like to reach out and say hello, we always welcome hearing from our listeners. You can subscribe to the Great Women in Compliance podcast on any podcast player by searching for it and we welcome new subscribers to our podcast. Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here.
3/31/202150 minutes
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Melanie Sponholz on Healthcare Compliance: Beyond Borders

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley. Welcome back to the second episode in a two-part series on Healthcare Compliance, this time with Melanie Sponholz Chief Compliance Officer WCP Healthcare.  We discuss Melanie’s unique story starting out in non-Compliance roles and of course eventually finding her Compliance destiny. Along the way, Mel has lived in a large number of cities and feels comfortable with the idea of re-locating, noting the benefits this can have for one’s career and broadening your mind. We talk about data privacy in Healthcare Compliance as well as the characteristics that make someone successful in Healthcare Compliance. This episode will therefore likely be of special interest to anyone looking to transition into Healthcare Compliance.  We like to share advice and tips on the podcast via our learned guests but some things don’t have immediate answers, including some aspects of what we’ve canvassed today. If you’d like to share your thoughts on the issues raised, we invite you to connect with us at [email protected]. The Great Women in Compliance Podcast is proudly featured on the Compliance Podcast Network and sponsored by Corporate Compliance Insights. If you enjoyed this episode please subscribe to the podcast and rate it on your podcast player to help other compliance professionals find it. Want to hear more from us? We have a book, “Sending the Elevator Back Down: What We’ve Learned from Great Women in Compliance” (CCI Press, 2020) which is available on Amazon.com and Book Depository. If you’ve already read the booked and liked it, will you help out other women to make the decision to leverage off the tips and advice given by rating the book and giving it a glowing review on Amazon?  As always, we are so grateful for all of your support and if you have any feedback or suggestions for our 2021 line up or would just like to reach out and say hello, we always welcome hearing from our listeners. You can subscribe to the Great Women in Compliance podcast on any podcast player by searching for it and we welcome new subscribers to our podcast. Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here.
3/24/202150 minutes, 44 seconds
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Donna Schneider on Healthcare Compliance

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley. We’re pleased to introduce our latest two part series on Great Women in Compliance this week – a focus on Healthcare Compliance! In part one we speak with Donna Schneider Lifespan Vice President, Corporate Compliance and Internal Audit. In an unconventional start for GWIC, we begin the episode by level setting on the topic of what Healthcare Compliance is compared with similar industry areas and some of the unique topics that fall under Healthcare Compliance, both in the US and internationally before launching into Donna’s fascinating background as a healthcare provider herself initially, before joining the Compliance realm.  Donna shares her subject matter expertise by commenting on pressing issues of the day for Healthcare Chief Compliance Officers. For anyone looking to transition into Healthcare Compliance, you’ll want to tune into this episode as Donna shares her tips for those job hunting and in particular hoping to be a Healthcare Compliance professional. Donna and Mary also ruminate about the benefits of Compliance certifications and volunteering – they could just set you a apart as a shining candidate in a job search. We seek Donna’s advice for Compliance Officers seeking zen and balance after your temper has been tested at work. Tune in for tips from someone who has seen and done a lot in her career and unsurprisingly has some sound tips to take away to keep a sense of calm in even the most stressful of moments. Mary wraps up the episode with the first of a two pronged speak up campaign – the first prong focuses on the deterrent that staff believe that speaking up is futile. Tune in to our second episode in the Healthcare Compliance series to hear from Mel Sponholz and the second step in Mary’s speak up campaign. We like to share advice and tips on the podcast via our learned guests but some things don’t have immediate answers, including some aspects of what we’ve canvassed today. If you’d like to share your thoughts on the issues raised, we invite you to connect with us at [email protected]. The Great Women in Compliance Podcast is proudly featured on the Compliance Podcast Network and sponsored by Corporate Compliance Insights. If you enjoyed this episode please subscribe to the podcast and rate it on your podcast player to help other compliance professionals find it. Want to hear more from us? We have a book, “Sending the Elevator Back Down: What We’ve Learned from Great Women in Compliance” (CCI Press, 2020) which is available on Amazon.com and Book Depository. If you’ve already read the booked and liked it, will you help out other women to make the decision to leverage off the tips and advice given by rating the book and giving it a glowing review on Amazon?  As always, we are so grateful for all of your support and if you have any feedback or suggestions for our 2021 line up or would just like to reach out and say hello, we always welcome hearing from our listeners. You can subscribe to the Great Women in Compliance podcast on any podcast player by searching for it and we welcome new subscribers to our podcast. Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here.
3/17/202135 minutes, 29 seconds
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Lisa Fine on the One-Year of Covid

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley.  In last week's episode, Mary talked about her rants and raves, and when Lisa listened to that episode, it was so interesting and thought provoking that Lisa was inspired to comment on the discussion that Mary started and provided her own thoughts. Lisa had a front-row seat when Mary endured the misogynistic situation she discussed, and was shocked by it at the time, and also surprised that the same individual reached out to her! Lisa thought a lot about how your generation impacts how you view misogyny and how one responds (spoiler alert: Lisa is Gen X, and is more resigned to the behavior, and admires how Mary identified it so quickly and addressed it). Lisa has also thought a lot about the term "thought leader," and what that means to her. We all have the ability to be thought leaders, whether it is visible through LinkedIn, in your work, or just within our community. In other words, you don't have to be recognized publicly as a thought leader to be one. Lastly, she talks a bit about how this is the 1-year anniversary of COVID-19 for her and most of the US, and where she thinks we are, where things are going, and reminds us to be kind to ourselves, each other and our E&C community. And, on that note, we hope that you will contribute your thoughts and opinions for the podcast for the 100th episode, coming soon. We like to share advice and tips on the podcast via our learned guests but some things don’t have immediate answers, including some aspects of what we’ve canvassed today. If you’d like to share your thoughts on the issues raised, we invite you to connect with us at [email protected]. The Great Women in Compliance Podcast is proudly featured on the Compliance Podcast Network and sponsored by Corporate Compliance Insights. If you enjoyed this episode please subscribe to the podcast and rate it on your podcast player to help other compliance professionals find it. Want to hear more from us? We have a book, “Sending the Elevator Back Down: What We’ve Learned from Great Women in Compliance” (CCI Press, 2020) which is available on Amazon.com and Book Depository. If you’ve already read the booked and liked it, will you help out other women to make the decision to leverage off the tips and advice given by rating the book and giving it a glowing review on Amazon?  As always, we are so grateful for all of your support and if you have any feedback or suggestions for our 2021 line up or would just like to reach out and say hello, we always welcome hearing from our listeners.
3/10/202122 minutes, 50 seconds
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A Mary Soliloquy

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley. We love getting inspiration from great places and what a better a place to gain inspiration for an episode than one of our sister podcasts on the Compliance Podcast Network?! In this week’s episode, Mary channels the Everything Compliance team and walks through her list of rants and raves for the moment. We boo misogyny in the workplace (and well, everywhere if we’re frank), erosion of Chief Compliance Officer authority and treating job seekers with disrespect. We celebrate male allies of feminism in Compliance, those volunteering for Compliance Career Connection and all of our listeners who keep an open mind as to different perspectives while investing in growth and professional development. We like to share advice and tips on the podcast via our learned guests but some things don’t have immediate answers, including some aspects of what we’ve canvassed today. If you’d like to share your thoughts on the issues raised, we invite you to connect with us at [email protected]. The Great Women in Compliance Podcast is proudly featured on the Compliance Podcast Network and sponsored by Corporate Compliance Insights. If you enjoyed this episode please subscribe to the podcast and rate it on your podcast player to help other compliance professionals find it. Want to hear more from us? We have a book, “Sending the Elevator Back Down: What We’ve Learned from Great Women in Compliance” (CCI Press, 2020) which is available on Amazon.com and Book Depository. If you’ve already read the booked and liked it, will you help out other women to make the decision to leverage off the tips and advice given by rating the book and giving it a glowing review on Amazon?  As always we are so grateful for all of your support and if you have any feedback or suggestions for our 2021 line up, or would just like to reach out and say hello, we always welcome hearing from our listeners. You can subscribe to the Great Women in Compliance podcast on any podcast player by searching for it and we welcome new subscribers to our podcast. Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here.
3/3/202123 minutes, 22 seconds
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Joya Williams on Building Your E&C Community and Career

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley.  In this episode, Lisa speaks with Joya Williams, who has had a front row seat to some of the most fascinating moments in recent ethics and compliance history at Enron and again with the Gulf Oil spill in 2016. After seeing the fallout from Enron in 2001, and working in ethics and compliance immediately thereafter, she saw the impact and need for that work. That has guided her professional life.  Joya talks about her experiences and how she has built a network for herself and others by building the Greater Houston Business and Ethics Roundtable and working with Smith Texas College to build a compliance program. As this is the last week of Black History Month, it was important to recognize the work of someone like Joya, who embodies a GWIC in how she gives back to her community - local, professional and educational. She also talks about the importance of increasing the number of Black Chief Compliance Officer roles and to increase diversity in the ethics and compliance space and ends the interview with a wonderful quote from Shirley Chisholm. You can subscribe to the Great Women in Compliance podcast on any podcast player by searching for it and we welcome new subscribers to our podcast. Lisa and Mary have extended the Great Women in Compliance brand to the book “Sending the Elevator Back Down: What We’ve Learned from Great Women in Compliance” (CCI Press, 2020) which can be found on Amazon and features valuable wisdom and advice from Great Women in Compliance across the world. If you’ve already read the booked and liked it, will you help out other women to make the decision to leverage off the tips and advice given by rating the book and giving it a glowing review on Amazon?  As always we are so grateful for all of your support and if you have any feedback or suggestions for our 2021 line up, or would just like to reach out and say hello, we always welcome hearing from our listeners. Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here.
2/24/202122 minutes, 38 seconds
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Tom Fox on The Compliance Handbook, 2nd edition

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley.  For those of you who do not know the origin of the Great Women in Compliance podcast, put simply, we are not sure if this podcast would have started without the support and guidance of Tom Fox. He is known as the Compliance Evangelist and has been that and more to so many in our field.  We have wanted to include him as a guest on the podcast, and this turned out to be the perfect time as he is about to release an update of the Compliance Handbook, 2nd edition (LexisNexis) which pulls off the trick of being a practical how-to guide while also including nuanced analysis of the law and regulations.  Mary and Lisa are both a part of this special interview, where Tom discusses the handbook as well as his experience in building the Compliance Podcast Network and how he keeps up-to-date with so much going on in our space. He also discusses what advice he would give to new compliance practitioners.  Listeners to this podcast can received PreSale discount of 25% is available for presale purchase. Use the code FOX25 for the presale discount and go here for more information and to order The Compliance Handbook 2nd edition. It will be available in both print and eBook editions. It will be published in April 2021.   You can subscribe to the Great Women in Compliance podcast on any podcast player by searching for it and we welcome new subscribers to our podcast. Lisa and Mary have extended the Great Women in Compliance brand to the book “Sending the Elevator Back Down: What We’ve Learned from Great Women in Compliance” (CCI Press, 2020) which can be found on Amazon and features valuable wisdom and advice from Great Women in Compliance across the world. If you’ve already read the booked and liked it, will you help out other women to make the decision to leverage off the tips and advice given by rating the book and giving it a glowing review on Amazon?  As always we are so grateful for all of your support and if you have any feedback or suggestions for our 2021 line up, or would just like to reach out and say hello, we always welcome hearing from our listeners. Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here.
2/17/202123 minutes, 55 seconds
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Bonus Episode - Jay Rosen on Networking

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley. Lisa and Mary are pleased to present the second bonus episode of the series. For those new to the podcast, bonus episodes identify interviewees who are not Great Women in Compliance but have expertise to share that will benefit the advancement and empowerment of Great Women in Compliance. Jay Rosen is a friend of the podcast and has been an ally for #GWIC from the very beginning. The GWIC team extends their sincere gratitude to Jay for his support and friendship over the years. There is no one better known for their networking skills than Jay, also known as Mr. Monitor due to his day job at Affiliated Monitors. While many folks fell into Compliance, Jay’s start in Hollywood is amongst the least conventional pre-cursor careers. We get to hear his story leading him to Compliance before diving into the substantive topic of how to network like a pro – even if you’re shy and introverted with no existing contacts. Jay shares his best tips with us – addressing those in Compliance departments and those at vendors or other sales roles doing the important job of supplying tools, resources and services to Compliance practitioners to help them function at their best. The conversation with Jay ends poignantly with Jay recounting the best advice that he ever received from his mother – a supporter of Great Women in Compliance as she purchased Jay a copy of “Sending the Elevator Back Down: What We’ve Learned from Great Women in Compliance” (CCI Press, 2020) for Jay for Hannukah – that remains of more relevance than ever before. Mary wraps up the episode with a short story based on her mother’s reframing of a situation that changed how Mary thinks about situations and lessens negative self-talk. The Great Women in Compliance Podcast is proudly featured on the Compliance Podcast Network and sponsored by Corporate Compliance Insights. If you enjoyed this episode please subscribe to the podcast and rate it on your podcast player to help other compliance professionals find it. You can subscribe to the Great Women in Compliance podcast on any podcast player by searching for it and we welcome new subscribers to our podcast. Lisa and Mary have extended the Great Women in Compliance brand to the book “Sending the Elevator Back Down: What We’ve Learned from Great Women in Compliance” (CCI Press, 2020) which can be found on Amazon and features valuable wisdom and advice from Great Women in Compliance across the world.
2/10/202153 minutes, 18 seconds
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Erika Cheung, the Whistleblower

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley. At the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, we believe in the value of speaking up whilst acknowledging that it often isn’t easy to do so. No one personifies this more than heroic whistleblowers such as today’s guest, Erika Cheung. Erika was one of the Theranos whistleblowers and is featured as our second speaker in this two-part series on whistleblowing. Erika tells her story of what it was like starting at Theranos as a new graduate from university and details the experiences that led to her blowing the whistle on practices at the company thought of at the time as a unicorn and the next big thing. We get to hear about what Erika is working on now as one of us – a new member of the Compliance community and her tips for startups seeking to embed a culture of integrity in their business. We also hear about the personal toll the experience has had on Erika in addition to her successes moving on from the now disgraced company. Mary often likes to end episodes with a little nugget of information or advice and this episode we maximize the star power already brought to the episode with Erika and feature one of the greatest feminist influencers of Mary’s childhood outside of family – some commentary from Ann. M Martin, author of The Baby-sitters Club books, given especially for the GWIC podcast. The Great Women in Compliance Podcast is proudly featured on the Compliance Podcast Network and sponsored by Corporate Compliance Insights. If you enjoyed this episode please subscribe to the podcast and rate it on your podcast player to help other compliance professionals find it. You can subscribe to the Great Women in Compliance podcast on any podcast player by searching for it and we welcome new subscribers to our podcast. Lisa and Mary have extended the Great Women in Compliance brand to the booking “Sending the Elevator Back Down: What We’ve Learned from Great Women in Compliance” (CCI Press, 2020) which can be found on Amazonand features valuable wisdom and advice from Great Women in Compliance across the world. If you’ve already read the booked and liked it, will you help out other women to make the decision to leverage off the tips and advice given by rating the book and giving it a glowing review on Amazon?  As always we are so grateful for all of your support and if you have any feedback or suggestions for our 2021 line up, or would just like to reach out and say hello, we always welcome hearing from our listeners. Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here.
2/3/202153 minutes, 28 seconds
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Frances McLeod, Women Leaders in Forensic, Risk and Compliance

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley.  While there are a lot of women in the field of Ethics and Compliance, there are fewer women who are in forensic risk analysis. Today, Lisa speaks with one of the pioneers in this area, Frances McLeod. Frances is an owner and Founding Partner of Forensic Risk Alliance (FRA) and head of its US offices. She has worked in many areas - data privacy and GDPR, as a monitor in many different matters for the SEC and DOJ and has focused a lot on sanctions as of late. Frances shares her experiences in growing FRA and her commitment to diversity in the field, as well as supporting and empowering women in their careers. She also talks about her experiences in very different monitorships - from being "the data lady" in the City of Ferguson matter, to her recent involvement in the IAV monitorships. We also discuss what compliance officers should be thinking about as Artificial Intelligence grows in importance for all of us. You can subscribe to the Great Women in Compliance podcast on any podcast player by searching for it and we welcome new subscribers to our podcast which is hosted on the Compliance Podcast Network. Lisa and Mary have extended the Great Women in Compliance brand to the booking “Sending the Elevator Back Down: What We’ve Learned from Great Women in Compliance” (CCI Press, 2020) which can be found on Amazon and features valuable wisdom and advice from Great Women in Compliance across the world. If you’ve already read the booked and liked it, will you help out other women to make the decision to leverage off the tips and advice given by rating the book and giving it a glowing review on Amazon?  As always we are so grateful for all of your support and if you have any feedback or suggestions for our 2021 line up, or would just like to reach out and say hello, we always welcome hearing from our listeners. Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here.
1/27/202132 minutes, 11 seconds
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Blowing the Whistle, the Advocate-Mary Inman

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley.   When we think about lawyers in the Compliance context, a number come to mind. Those who represent us in the event of government action taking place, those who help us with investigations, those who help us objectively evaluate our Compliance program, those who give us advice on a point of law when we need it, those who are appointed to us as monitors and so on. One area that doesn’t get a lot of attention is the role of the lawyer as whistleblower representative. This Great Women in Compliance Podcast sheds some light on this advocate role by way of our interview with Mary Inman who heads up the International Whistleblower Practice at Constantine Cannon. In her legal practice, Inman represented the high profile Theranos whistleblower Tyler Schulz, among others. We draw on this fascinating experience to bring you Part 1 of a two-part series on whistleblowing starting with Inman’s perspective as an advocate for whistleblowers and ending with the view from the other side of the fence as the whistleblower with Erika Cheung, another of the Theranos whistleblowers. Inman, who is the epitome of effervescence, does some level setting for us by explaining the role of a whistleblower lawyer and why a whistleblower might want one. She gives her view on whether there are any differences between male and female whistleblowers based on her extensive experience and as someone who has spent her entire career in private practice, shares a tip on avoiding burnout. You can subscribe to the Great Women in Compliance podcast on any podcast player by searching for it and we welcome new subscribers to our podcast which is hosted on the Compliance Podcast Network. Lisa and Mary have extended the Great Women in Compliance brand to the booking “Sending the Elevator Back Down: What We’ve Learned from Great Women in Compliance” (CCI Press, 2020) which can be found on Amazonand features valuable wisdom and advice from Great Women in Compliance across the world. If you’ve already read the booked and liked it, will you help out other women to make the decision to leverage off the tips and advice given by rating the book and giving it a glowing review on Amazon?  As always we’re so grateful for all of your support and if you have any feedback or suggestions for our 2021 line up, or would just like to reach out and say hello, we always welcome hearing from our listeners. Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here.
1/20/202130 minutes, 8 seconds
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Tiffany Archer on Mastering the Art of Compliance with 3 Non-Negotiables

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley.  In this episode of Great Women in Compliance, Lisa speaks with Tiffany Archer, Regional Ethics & Compliance Officer and Corporate Counsel for Europe and the Americas at Panasonic Aviation Corporation. Tiffany talks about the guideposts that have defined her life and her ethics and compliance career. These pillars are Excellence, Discipline and Integrity, and have led her to undertake challenges and accomplish goals, both personal and professional.  Tiffany provides insight on how these pillars helped her from her time in law firm life to today at Panasonic Aviation.  In particular, she keeps these values in mind while recognizing the importance on building relationships and knowing that there is no "one size fits all" approach to building an ethics and compliance program. Tiffany also talks about how these pillars impacted how she has addressed COVID-19 as a leader and compliance officer, as well as how she thinks about Black Lives Matter and today's social justice movement. Lastly, for all of us who consider ethics and compliance a passion as much as a career, she talks about how her work in the E&C community compliments her full-time job, and her tips as to how she does all of these things she does. Have you heard that the Great Women in Compliance Book, Sending the Elevator down is now available in an electronic version? Head to Amazon to get your copy today! If you’ve already read the booked and liked it, will you help out other women to make the decision to leverage off the tips and advice given by rating the book and giving it a glowing review on Amazon?  As always we’re so grateful for all of your support and if you have any feedback or suggestions for our 2021 line up, or would just like to reach out and say hello, we always welcome hearing from our listeners. Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here.
1/13/202131 minutes, 54 seconds
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Ask Us Anything

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley.  The Great Women in Compliance podcast is back!  In this joint episode, Lisa and Mary kick off 2021 with an "ask us anything" episode where the questions were solicited from the GWIC Community.  Mary and Lisa discuss substantive issues including their opinions what may happen in 2021, including whether compliance enforcement will change in the US given the change in administration; how organizations may change their management and leadership in the E&C function, and the "new new normal" from COVID. They also talk about their own goals for 2021 for professional development and growth, both in their full-time jobs and in learning and thought leadership.  As usual, they also laugh and discuss the lighter side of what the amazing compliance community does every day. Lisa and Mary also note that they always appreciate feedback on the podcast, potential guests, and topics to discuss, and solicit any thoughts from listeners. Have you heard that the Great Women in Compliance Book, Sending the Elevator down is now available in an electronic version?  Head to Amazon to get your copy today!  If you’ve already read the booked and liked it, will you help out other women to make the decision to leverage off the tips and advice given by rating the book and giving it a glowing review on Amazon?   As always we’re so grateful for all of your support and if you have any feedback or suggestions for our 2021 line up, or would just like to reach out and say hello, we always welcome hearing from our listeners.  Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here. 
1/6/202133 minutes, 57 seconds
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Mary Shirley, Original GWIC

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley.  There is a lot to reflect on as we end 2020, and with all of the challenges of the year, it has been a landmark one for the Great Women in Compliance podcast and now the book. When reflecting on the final podcast for 2020, Lisa wanted to do something to commemorate this - and realized that she had never interviewed the person who she sees as the original GWIC, Mary. So, here is a discussion with Mary about things that are important to her, starting with her experience in 2020 both personally and professionally. Mary has started a new role at Fresenius - Head of Culture of Integrity and Compliance Education, and she talks about what this means to her and her goals and objectives for this new opportunity, and her 2021 planning and whether it was impacted by the events of 2020. Lastly, for anyone who knows Mary, she likes to be prepared for everything. So Lisa decided to turn that on its head and give her what they called a "lightning round" where Mary had no idea what questions Lisa would be asking and called for quick answers.  We hope you enjoy this last episode of 2020 and GWIC will be back in 2021. Have you heard that the Great Women in Compliance Book, Sending the Elevator down is now available in an electronic version? Head to Amazon to get your copy today! If you’ve already read the booked and liked it, will you help out other women to make the decision to leverage off the tips and advice given by rating the book and giving it a glowing review on Amazon?  As always we’re so grateful for all of your support and if you have any feedback or suggestions for our 2021 line up, or would just like to reach out and say hello, we always welcome hearing from our listeners. Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here.
12/16/202029 minutes, 16 seconds
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Angela Main, Monitor Certified

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley. Last year we spoke with Olga Pontes who was in the middle of multiple monitorships at Odebrecht at the time. This week Mary speaks with Angela Main, Chief Compliance Officer at Zimmer Biomet who recently led the company to a monitor certification – big congratulations to Zimmer Biomet for the momentous achievement! Mary was especially thrilled to speak with Angela as they share similarities in having New Zealand heritage and being international citizens. They open the episode by discussing what being an expat really means today. Is the term now outdated? Angela shares her experiences with us about what going through the monitorship was like for a global Compliance department and some of the things she learned along the way, including thoughts on how to best work with the monitor and get the most out of the experience. The natural question for Angela at this stage is, so what next? Angela shares her priorities for maintaining her Compliance program into 2021 and speaks about how she would approach Compliance fatigue if it were to come up as an issue moving forward. Mary was curious about how Angela kept her team motivated and focused given monitorships involve a great deal of work for staff to manage and Angela supplied her initiatives for keeping the team going through a busy period. We wrap up this episode by asking Angela to gaze into her crystal ball and speak about what the future holds for Compliance – listen in to hear her astute views on several different areas, including the future of monitorships. Have you heard that the Great Women in Compliance Book, Sending the Elevator down is now available in an electronic version? Head to Amazon to get your copy today! If you’ve already read the booked and liked it, will you help out other women to make the decision to leverage off the tips and advice given by rating the book and giving it a glowing review on Amazon? As always we’re so grateful for all of your support and if you have any feedback or suggestions for our 2021 line up, or would just like to reach out and say hello, we always welcome hearing from our listeners. Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here.
12/9/202042 minutes, 49 seconds
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Lynn Haaland, Caring and Compliance

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley. What’s it like entering a company suddenly in the limelight during a global pandemic? Find out as Mary Shirley speaks with Lynn Haaland about her role at Zoom as Chief Compliance and Ethics Officer and Chief Privacy Officer as well has her fascinating experience working for the DOJ, on boards and Compliance program contributions at PepsiCo. During this episode we also get to hear the Zoom origin story, as well about how Lynn lives one of the company’s values of “caring”. Join us for these topics and more! Have you heard that Lisa and Mary have published a book? Yes, you can get your very own copy of “Sending the Elevator Back Down: What We’ve Learned From Great Women in Compliance” (CCI Press, 2020) on Amazon right now! Enjoyed your copy? Don’t forget to leave a review! Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here.
12/2/202042 minutes, 7 seconds
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Dr. Mary Gentile, Giving Voice to Values-Part 2

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley. In Part 2 of the 2-part series with Dr. Mary Gentile, the founder of Giving Voice to Values, Lisa talks with Dr. Gentile about how ethics and compliance professionals can use GVV to help build an organization's culture and help with ethical decision-making. In particular, we discuss how E&C professionals can start with 3 questions underpinning GVV: What if I were going to act on my values? What would I say and do? How could I be most effective? This starting point can empower people to make good choices, leading to better decision-making and ultimately a stronger organization. Dr. Gentile provides real-life examples of how GVV has been applied in different contexts, some very practical advice and a lot of resources that can be used to help improve decision-making. Have you heard that Lisa and Mary have published a book? Yes, you can get your very own copy of “Sending the Elevator Back Down: What We’ve Learned From Great Women in Compliance” (CCI Press, 2020) on Amazon right now! Enjoyed your copy? Don’t forget to leave a review! Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here.
11/18/202029 minutes, 13 seconds
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Dr. Mary Gentile, Giving Voice to Values-Part 1

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley. In this Part 1 of a special two-part series, Lisa welcomes Dr. Mary Gentile who is the creator and architect of Giving Voice to Values (GVV), which is a globally recognized program which shifts the focus from ethical analysis, to ethical implementation. This aligns with the manner in which many ethics and compliance professionals look to support their organizations by helping people act ethically. In this first episode, Lisa talks with Dr. Gentile about how GVV started from her review and analysis of how everyone has internal and external pressures surrounding their decisions, and that some people do voice and act on their values, and some do not. Dr. Gentile's research led to the development of GVV to give practical tools to help people make better decisions. She talks about how to and build a practice to help people move from knowing what the ethical thing is to do, to having the ability to effectively respond when challenged. She discusses global challenges and challenges for women when being pressured to act unethically and the tools that GVV provides in those situations. Have you heard that Lisa and Mary have published a book? Yes, you can get your very own copy of “Sending the Elevator Back Down: What We’ve Learned From Great Women in Compliance” (CCI Press, 2020) on Amazon right now! Enjoyed your copy? Don’t forget to leave a review! Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here.
11/11/202025 minutes, 23 seconds
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Andrea Falcione, Part 2-Policies

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley. We invite back Andrea Falcione to round off this series on documentation by exploring best practices in Compliance policies. Before we do however, we hear about Rethink Compliance’s approach to maximizing the resource of women returning to the workforce or looking for flexible hours. It sounds win-win to us! In this episode we discuss the difference in focus between your code and policies, frequency of revisions to policies, desired tone and message, making the most of learning aids and other hot topics for assembling a collection of best in class Compliance policies.  Have you heard that Lisa and Mary have published a book? Yes, you can get your very own copy of “Sending the Elevator Back Down: What We’ve Learned From Great Women in Compliance” (CCI Press, 2020) on Amazon right now! Enjoyed your copy? Don’t forget to leave a review! Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here.
11/4/202038 minutes, 21 seconds
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Andrea Falcione, Part 1-Documentation: Codes of Conduct

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley.  The Code of Conduct is kind of a big deal in any Compliance program. It has been referred to as the cornerstone of a Compliance program and for that reason, it’s important to get it right.  Well that’s easier said than done when you’re trying to appeal to literally every employee and external stakeholder you have. So we enlisted in some expert help. Andrea Falcione of Rethink Compliance joins us for this two-part series which starts off taking a hard look at re-vamping Codes of Conduct (we assume you’ve already got one in place and aren’t starting from scratch) and the second installment takes a deep dive into Compliance policies.  In the Code episode we canvass considerations from the outset to get your approach right, discuss frequency of re-vamps, how codes have evolved and what marks a modern code in amongst several other nitty gritty points. Yes folks, it’s a packed episode you won’t want to miss.  Have you heard that Lisa and Mary have published a book? Yes, you can get your very own copy of “Sending the Elevator Back Down: What We’ve Learned From Great Women in Compliance” (CCI Press, 2020) on Amazon right now! Enjoyed your copy? Don’t forget to leave a review! Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here. 
10/28/202038 minutes, 21 seconds
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Matt Kelly-the Compliance Observer

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley.  In today's episode, Lisa talks with Matt Kelly, who is the CEO and Editor of Radical Compliance. Matt is a journalist who is a long-time reporter and writer about compliance and GRC. He is also a supporter and advocate of women in compliance and of the Great Women in Compliance podcast, as he was the unofficial tech support, advisor and one of the first podcast subscribers. Matt and Lisa discuss the continuing influence of #MeToo, and how this has impacted organizations and how it relates to the social justice movements and Black Lives Matter. They also talk about how the influence of social media and how it is used as a tool to raise and publicize concerns, and how this impacts corporate culture, investigations and compliance functions. Matt also writes about retaliation - both for reporters, and as an issue for compliance professionals. He also gives his view of things of what someone should do in their 20s in their careers, and we won't spoil that for you! Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here.
10/21/202028 minutes, 43 seconds
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Danielle Cannata on Women’s Rights, Corporate Integrity and the B20 Summit

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley.  In this episode of Great Women in Compliance, Lisa speaks with Danielle Cannata, who is senior counsel at SABIC, which is the Saudi Basic Industries Corporation. In her role, she is responsible for the company-wide Compliance Program and monitoring and promoting compliance at SABIC. Danielle is also an advocate for women around the world. In particular, she is one of the co-chairs of the of the Integrity and Compliance Taskforce for the B20, which convenes before the G20, and where the B20 taskforce will present a report to the G20 Presidency. Danielle will talk about her work on the task force, and specifically about the recommendations for women and recommendations and tools for women to address and report wrongdoing. She also provides her perspective on working in a global role and working with Saudi and the Middle East over her 12 years at SABIC. Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here.
10/14/202030 minutes, 26 seconds
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Mel Stanley on Personal Branding, Part 2

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley. In this two-part series we welcome back Mel Stanley, owner of First Woman, to reveal personal branding secrets that can help you stand out positively to colleagues, your network and new connections. Mel shares some thoughts on how Compliance Officers can use personal branding to facilitate our human side being seen as part of our reputation with internal clients and how we as Compliance professionals can demonstrate our expertise without coming across as overly self-promotional or arrogant. Mary asked Mel’s advice on how to determine if our personal branding is showing up right now as seen by others, to help with the process of developing our branding in the direction we wish. Mary shares with Mel and the audience what results she got following Mel’s advice, including an unintended benefit and accordingly recommends all listeners give it a try. Mel generously and graciously pulls off some impromptu workshopping for Mary which will provide valuable insights for all Great Women in Compliance. We round off the episode with a what not to do to avoid sabotaging your carefully built up branding. Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here.
10/7/202038 minutes, 23 seconds
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Mel Stanley on Personal Branding, Part 1

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley.  The Great Women in Compliance Podcast is pleased to debut the first of our bonus episodes. These episodes feature guests outside of the realm of Compliance who have subject matter expertise relevant to the advancement and empowerment of women in Compliance, one of the major focus areas of the podcast. Our first guest to feature in a bonus episode is Mel Stanley, owner of First Woman, who shares her considerable knowledge in the area of personal branding. Mel’s strong suit is in helping women to building their own personal brand. Whether you’re a woman in Compliance or another industry, this two part series with Mel will teach you a lot about using your personal brand to promote yourself and get you to reflect on how you show up in the world and whether that’s aligned with how you want to show up. In this first episode we discuss Mel’s experience facilitating a conversation on the brick ceiling, her key takeaways and how you can find her recording with smart women of color who are taking charge of their professional lives and sharing their voices. On the personal branding front, we ask Mel to help us level set and get a feel for what personal branding is, and what it is not. We also learn why it’s important and how it can help you advance as a Great Women in Compliance, or any other industry. We cap off this episode with Mel’s advice on social medial and how you can use it to support your branding goals. Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here.
9/30/202039 minutes, 34 seconds
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Alejandra Montenegro Almonte

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley.  Today’s guest is Alejandra Montenegro Almonte, a member of the law firm Miller Chevalier, who has built a practice where she has an international practice focusing on design and implementation of risk-based internal compliance programs and is also a monitor on behalf of a regulatory agency in Massachusetts. Alejandra has returned to private practice after spending time at gategroup as the General Counsel for North American and LATAM. She talks about her experience of going from law firm to in-house, and she has had a unique experience in that she went back to a law firm.  Alejandra was born in Nicaragua and moved to New Orleans at age 4. She talks about how coming to the US at such a young age has influenced her career decision, her view on practicing law and the importance of hearing from diverse voices in all aspects of advising risk and compliance risks. She has had experience being the only woman in the room in LATAM, and all over the world and has insight into that as well. We are so excited to have Alejandra as a guest during Latino Heritage Month. Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here.
9/23/202032 minutes, 23 seconds
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The Great Women in Compliance Book Preview

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley.  As many of you know, Mary and Lisa have been working on a book that will be coming out before the holidays and will be the first title from CCI Press. The "GWIC Book" (the title will be announced soon), is a compilation of submissions from women in compliance sharing wit, wisdom and experiences from their work and lives.    This process was new to Mary and Lisa, and they provide some insight into the process of being a first-time author up until this point. They talk about the importance of having a good publisher and editor as they had with Sarah Hadden of CCI Press, and how they were guided and supported through this process. They also talk about how the GWIC Book is a companion to the podcast, and that it is about women and their experiences in ethics and compliance as opposed to substantive guides and information. They also talk about their biggest surprises, what they learned about themselves and the GWIC community (spoiler alert: it reinforced what an enthusiastic and supportive community we have); and a little bit about the book release and launch events. Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here.
9/16/202033 minutes, 30 seconds
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Sonia Zeledon, Part 2

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley. As we continue this two part episode with the second session, Sonia shares her tips on how project management strategies can be used to maintain the tricky balance of consulting with relevant stakeholders while providing timely deliverables. Mary supports this approach with her recommendation for setting out expectations of roles in advance using RACI charts, another project management tool. Sonia shares how in light of the new normal her compliance program goals and personal goals have re-adjusted for the rest of 2020 and we hear about the chocolatey perks of being a staff member of The Hershey Company. We end this episode with Mary sharing the importance of leveraging relationships and how you can use Reciprocity Rings if the idea of cashing in chips on well established relationships feels uncomfortable. Have you been enjoying our podcast? It’s our pleasure to have found a way in which we can give back to the community by highlighting other women, amplifying their voices and offering a scalable and efficient way to share knowledge within the Compliance community. We’d love to know if you are getting value from our episodes – please feel free to reach out to us at [email protected] with feedback or rate our podcast and leave a review on your podcast app. Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here.
8/26/202025 minutes, 29 seconds
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Sonia Zeledon, Part 1-Doing Well by Doing Good

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley. The Great Women in Compliance Podcast introduces another two-part series this week, featuring Sonia Zeledon of The Hershey Company. Sonia shares the philosophy of the Company: “Doing well by doing good” which seems like a dream environment for a Compliance Officer to walk into and Sonia shares how to not let such a front foot position lead to complacency. Sonia discusses the company’s supplier code of conduct and how it’s at the heart of the company’s supply chain Compliance program. She also canvasses the intersection between privacy and compliance in her role and how the show had to go on during COVID-19. She also draws on her previous experience specializing in national security and shares with us some of the considerations when working in a Compliance function which must prioritize national security risk. Lisa and Mary are currently busy working on the Great Women in Compliance book with Corporate Compliance Insights. One of the most enjoyable aspects of publishing the book is planning the launch party. The team is looking forward to sharing the details with their audience shortly and hopes that you all will be able to attend and raise a glass to toast all of the wonderful Great Women in Compliance that you know, starting with yourselves. Watch this space for further details! Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here.
8/19/202026 minutes, 44 seconds
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Neta Meidav on Ethics with Intention

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley. In today's episode, Lisa speaks with Neta Meidav, who founded Vault Platform. It is a reporting and resolution platform which is intended to be a safe space to report any form of misconduct and for follow up.     Neta's idea for Vault came out of personal experience as she was harassed at a job earlier in her career. She left that role, and months later she learned of another victim. This stayed in her mind until #metoo, and then started developing this reporting system using her experience and her technology and business acumen. We talk about allegation reporting generally, and how it is important to provide a safe space for victims of harassment, and to make it easier to save information.  This is a very important topic in order to improve our ability in the ethics and compliance world to effectively address the issues brought to light in the Black Lives Matter movement, as well as COVID and #metoo. Neta also provides insight into what trends she is seeing now, and what advice she has to encourage reporting and effective resolution of allegations. Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here.
8/12/202037 minutes, 43 seconds
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Haydee Olinger on the Secret Sauce of Life After Compliance

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley. Lisa and Mary extend their heartfelt thanks to everyone who heeded the call for submissions for their book and told us your stories, experiences and sage advice. We are so looking forward to publishing the book in the coming months and hearing what you all think about it. In the meantime, we are pleased to present our latest episode which is inspired by a listener’s feedback for featuring folks outside the typical Compliance role, for example someone who has gone on to do other things since being a Compliance Officer. Haydee Olinger’s profile fits the bill. Haydee was a dedicated employee to McDonald’s Corporation for over thirty years(!) in a number of roles. She was the company’s first ever Chief Compliance Officer and responsible for building and rolling out their Compliance program. Hear her Compliance story at one of the world’s most recognizable brands and then find out where her journey took her next – now Haydee is no longer a Compliance Officer but continues to add value to the community. Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here.
8/5/202032 minutes, 25 seconds
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Lisa Beth Lentini Walker on Mentoring in Compliance and Building Future Leaders

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley.  In this episode of Great Women in Compliance, Lisa catches up with Lisa Beth Lentini Walker, who started Lumen Worldwide Endeavors where she combines her entrepreneurial mindset to consulting and coaching professionals and teams in the areas of risk, ethics and compliance. Notably, earlier this year, Lisa Beth became one of the co-founders of MentorCore, which is an organization created to help risk and compliance professionals connect by identifying mentor relationships, sharing insights and growing the leaders of the future. MentorCore is unique in how it is trying to remove barriers for people in ethics and compliance in connecting with others who could benefit their careers. It is a combination of meeting personally (albeit virtually) while also forging 1:1 connections Lisa Beth also talks about founding Lumen the challenges of COVID. She has pivoted both in her business model and the kind of work that is needed right now in the E&C field and also in coaching and mentoring.  Lisa Beth lives in Minneapolis, where George Floyd was murdered and her view of her community and what is happening now.   Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here.
7/29/202031 minutes, 49 seconds
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Scott Davison on Jumping the Fence from Business to Compliance

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley.  Six years ago, Mary met Scott while the two New Zealanders were working in the United Arab Emirates and Kuwait respectively for generator hire company, Aggreko. As the global Head of Compliance, Mary was Scott’s Compliance Officer and headed out to Kuwait to conduct Compliance training. Not only was Mary thrilled to meet a fellow Kiwi expat at the company, but she was very impressed by how welcoming Scott, then head of the Kuwait business, made her and went to extra effort to ensure that her business trip went smoothly. Scott obviously took Compliance very seriously and a few years later, after both Kiwis had moved on from Aggreko, Scott reached out to Mary to let her know that in his new role as a Commercial Director, he would also be taking on the Compliance portfolio. We hear how Scott has transitioned from being solely in a business role and into a newly fledged Compliance professional. Mary considered Scott to be an ideal GWIC guest because he was fully supportive of Compliance and entirely respectful of a woman running the function and additionally has been very vocal about singing the praises of capable women in Compliance and making introductions to connect women in the field to enlarge their networks. As a bonus, during this episode we get a chance to hear about leadership from someone who is truly a servant leader and breaks down hierarchical barriers to be fully inclusive from the top. Join Mary and Scott as they re-live experiences in the Middle East and Scott shares his number one tip for men to best support female colleagues in the workplace. Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here.
7/22/202037 minutes, 49 seconds
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Black Lives Matter and Ethics and Compliance

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley. As the Great Women in Compliance podcast continues looking at Black Lives Matter and how our professional community, we are so grateful to Jennifer Newton for joining Lisa. Jennifer is an attorney at GreenbergTraurig and focuses on banking and financial institutions on risk management and compliance matters. She is also one of the founders of the National Association of Black Compliance & Risk Management Professionals (NABCRMP), an organization that is starting out and is dedicated to networking, promotion and advancement of Black Risk Management Professionals.  She has spent her career in the financial and regulatory compliance world and has great insight on that area as a whole. We discuss the importance of diverse viewpoints, and also how the failure to do so can actually increase risk and issues for an organization as not all views are included at senior levels, and "in the room where it happens." NABCRMP is intended to help increase the number of Black compliance professionals, build a community and network, and help with career development and growth. She also provides some great insights about what is happening right now - both with corporate statements and with actions and next steps. And, we also discuss how allies and others, including the GWIC community can help to support Black E&C professionals and NABCRMP. Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here.
7/15/202039 minutes, 15 seconds
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Asha Palmer-Black Girl Magic

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley.  Lisa and Mary are always very pleased to get recommendations for guests to speak on the podcast. It is however rare to get multiple suggestions for the same person, but Asha Palmer is so renowned that she did! This episode starts off by telling the story of Asha’s overseas working experience teaching ethics at university in the Middle East. An expert at creating and evaluating risk assessments and program assessments, we turn technical in this episode as Asha outlines for the audience the difference between the two types of reviews and common mistakes companies make when executing those initiatives. Asha has invested a great deal of time and thought into changing culture and conduct. We benefit from that effort by asking her about her change management tips for the Compliance Officer who has established themselves as a legitimate business partner, but is still working on shaping the culture and tone of the company, which as is we know is a little harder to control Asha is a class act and exudes excellence in everything – hence the title of this episode, we hope you enjoy it! Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here.
7/8/202039 minutes, 7 seconds
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Sherry Williams – Black Lives Matter and Ethics and Compliance

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley. There is no question that 2020 has had challenges that were unprecedented. However, the issues that are at the foundation of the Black Lives Matter movement have existed for a long time, and this is a moment where all of us can reflect on our world and also on our profession. Sherry Williams is a distinguished leader in ethics and compliance, and her most recent role was at Jabil as the Vice President, Deputy General Counsel and Global Chief Ethics and Compliance Officer. Before that, she was also the Chief Compliance Officer at Halliburton. Sherry graciously agreed to speak with Lisa Fine about the current situation in the US from her perspective - as a Black woman who has worked at the most senior levels of large organizations. She started at a major law firm and speaks about her personal experiences and learnings over the years - from challenging norms to addressing microaggressions. Sherry is also a mother and talks about how this moment has impacted her in that role, and how different generations perceive and address societal issues. She also talks about the unique role that compliance officers have, and how we can use our work to address inequity and inequalities. This is first episode which has a specific focus on race in the U.S., but the Great Women in Compliance podcast is committed to be a part of this discussion and learning from different voices in the ethics and compliance world on these critically important issues. Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here.
7/1/202047 minutes, 16 seconds
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Kelly Paxton on Pink Collar Crime

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley.  Compliance Officers are often generalists who dabble in fraud investigations from time to time when they crop up. So we invited Kelly Paxton who gets right in the weeds on fraud as her day job to help enlighten Compliance Officers more on the subject and share her fascinating stories. Did you know that there are some typical characteristics frequently found when women commit fraud or embezzle from organizations? We discuss some of the commonalities, one of which indicates that the glass ceiling is pervasive even in misconduct! Kelly explains Pink Collar Crime (spoiler alert, you don’t need to be a woman to commit pink collar crime, but many women do) and we discuss a couple of red flags that can indicate fraudulent behavior that Compliance Officers and investigators should be on the lookout for. Lisa and Mary invite listeners to send in their essays on efforts to promote diversity and inclusion, a tribute to a mentor, productivity hacks or any of the other topics by July 1, 2020. Only one week to go before submissions close so get them in now! Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here.
6/24/202032 minutes, 10 seconds
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Ask Us Anything

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley.  GWIC is back!  This episode is dedicated to Mary and Lisa answering questions that they received as part of an "Ask Us Anything" call out for questions.  They received questions in areas ranging from the origins and growth of the podcast, how guests are chosen, and podcast production.  They were able to share some of the lessons they learned through this 1 1/2 year journey with "Great Women in Compliance," and the experiences they had in their podcasting experience thus far. They also discuss their views on whether a law degree is essential for compliance officers (spoiler alert: they do not think that is the case, and think a diverse team is the best option), and a discussion on how to address risks in different markets and our biggest surprises in COVID. Mary and Lisa also enjoyed the opportunity to discuss what that have learned from their guests and now apply to their work and public speaking, and also some of the takeaways that had led to both personal and professional growth. They also talk about upcoming discussions, including those about Black Lives Matter and the importance of diversity and leadership from the ethics and compliance community.  And, last but not least, Lisa and Mary put an "ask me anything" question to the other. Thank you to all who responded to the call and submitted thoughtful and varied questions, we loved the opportunity to interact with you. Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here. 
6/17/202047 minutes, 58 seconds
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Jenny Kim on the Intersection of Public Policy and Compliance

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley.  In this episode of Great Women in Compliance, Lisa speaks with Jenny Kim, the Deputy General Counsel & Vice President, Public Policy at Koch Companies, Public Sector.  In her role, Jenny supervises the political law and compliance team, and we get the opportunity to speak about lobbying and political ethics and campaign finance. Jenny talks about her move from government roles to a law firm, to her role at Koch. We focus on the challenges of addressing concerns right away with rapid decision-making with ensuring compliance. We also discuss the compliance issues raised by the upcoming election, and how she collaborates with other functions such as government affairs on issues such as "pay to play" and political reporting requirements and keeping up with state-by-state requirements.   She also provides some of her thoughts on the importance of data and some of what she is doing to train employees throughout Koch. Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here.
5/27/202033 minutes, 55 seconds
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The Soliloquy Episode-Affordable Technology Tools

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley. Thank you to everyone who contributed to this crowdsourcing episode – our first solo episode of the Great Women in Compliance podcast series - and hosted by Mary Shirley. We know that sometimes Compliance budget can be hard to come by and even when it’s available, you do not want to squander it on only a few things – you want to get as much bang for your buck as possible. So, we put a call out for technology solutions that our audience has had success using to save you time trawling through all of the options. In this episode the solicited recommendations cover a number of different aspects of your Compliance program: Infographics, posters, brochures, flyers, social media posts (Visme, Canva, Piktochart) Project management (Trello, Asana) Video conferencing and other communications (Zoom, Slack, Google Meet) Training and Presentations (Kahoot, Prezi, Kapwing, Toonly) Bonus miscellaneous items (Process Unity Pandemic response questionnaire, West Elm video conference backdrops). If you’re looking for ways to spice up your Compliance program, this episode is for you! With much gratitude to Samantha Kellen, Parth Chanda, Sean Freidlin, Sarah Hadden, Ryan Rushing, Bob McKee, Rupert Evill and Ellen Hunt for the useful contributions! Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here.
5/20/202013 minutes, 46 seconds
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Alison Taylor on the Intersection of CSR and Compliance

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley. Like Compliance, Corporate Social Responsibility (CSR) is an area which has had an increasing spotlight over the past few years. As a result, both of these functions have evolved and are more aligned in the past. In this episode, Lisa Fine visits with Alison Taylor. One of the trailblazers in this area is Alison Taylor, who is the Executive Director of Ethical Systems, a Senior Advisor at BSR and an adjunct professor at NYU Stern School of Business. Alison joins Lisa Fine on Great Women in Compliance to discuss CSR and Compliance, how they intersect, and where there may be tensions between them. They discuss how ethics and ethical behavior are the underpinnings of both areas and how this becomes even more important in times like now, with COVID-19. Alison has worked all over the world and discusses her experiences as a woman in some of her roles, including what she wishes she knew when she started out. This episode was released the week prior to Compliance Week, where Lisa is on a panel that Alison is moderating called Week. "The CCO & CSR: The Impact of Corporate Social Responsibility on Compliance Programs." Compliance Week has been a great supporter of women in compliance (as well as the podcast), and now they have introduced us to another #GWIC.  Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here.
5/13/202026 minutes, 6 seconds
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Fabiana Lacerca-Allen on the Tribe That Surrounds You

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley. In this episode, Mary Shirley visits with Fabiana Lacerca-Allen, the Senior Vice President of Compliance at Aimmune Therapeutics, a biopharmaceutical company developing treatments for potentially life-threatening food allergies. Practicing law and compliance for more than 25 years, Lacerca’s passion as a compliance leader stems from values instilled in her at an early age and have helped to shape her career path as a global thought leader in law and compliance. We start the episode off with a bang as Fabiana recalls how her fascinating childhood informed her first lessons in Compliance. With three attempts made to kidnap her as a child, Fabiana is no stranger to the risk to physical safety and shares with us her tips for when she travels alone on business. Don’t miss the article Fabiana co-authored on this topic for more information: https://hispanicexecutive.com/self-defense-white-paper/ Fabiana also shares her approach to leadership and building a team around you – a tribe of people that you want to have with you throughout even the toughest of times – the people you’d be willing to have with you during a kidnapping – or Coronavirus lockdown! Relatedly, Mary and Fabiana discuss the concept of mentorship as a two way street and Fabiana discusses how she fosters her mentorship relationships to ensure that the benefits are maximized for both parties. We end this episode with a nod to self-care and some surprising results of award programs in schools that can provide us with food for thought regarding Compliance program incentives. Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here.
5/6/202033 minutes, 14 seconds
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Cindy Merlino and Sarah Powell on Building a Great Team: Onboarding Peers and Colleagues

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley.  When someone new joins a team, we often think about onboarding from the manager and the new employee's perspective, but often we may think less frequently about how that person's team will be impacted in their work and as team members. In this episode of GWIC, Lisa speaks with two of her peers at Pearson as she is reflecting on her first-year anniversary. Sarah Powell is Compliance Counsel and Director, Third Party Anti-Bribery and Corruption Compliance and Cindy Merlino is the Global Ethics and Compliance Specialist, and both spent considerable time to do everything they could to set Lisa up for success. We discuss how they support a new team member, from preparing pre-first day to the onboarding process, and provide tips on how to do that successfully while continuing their work. We also talk about integrating new people and what qualities are important to them in a new team member. Finally, Sarah is from South Africa and just returned there from London so we get a view on South Africa's self-quarantine and how past ethics and compliance issues impact the current situation. Cindy, like so many Americans, is adjusting to homeschooling while continuing her own work. Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here.
4/29/202043 minutes, 48 seconds
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Monica Lopez Reinmiller-the Woman Who Does it All

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley. In this episode of Great Women in Compliance, Mary speaks with Monica Lopez Reinmiller. She is Managing Corporate Counsel-Compliance at T-Mobile. Monica Lopez Reinmiller has a busy and wide-ranging portfolio at T-Mobile. This hasn’t stopped her from taking a Compliance 2.0 approach to her work. Monica shares some key considerations for building out a Conflicts of Interest program as well as her thoughts on enhancing a supplier compliance program.  We address the relative lack of discussion on supply chain risks and put a call out to listeners for guest speakers who have advanced supplier compliance programs and can join a future panel on best practices and lessons learned in this area. Mary has a special interest in the controls McDonalds has put in place so if you know someone – hook a girl up! In the telecommunications sector there are some risks unique to the industry. Monica sheds light on some of the current considerations for companies in her space and how Huawei and ZTE considerations impact her work. Monica shares her household’s experience during the COVID-19 enforced hibernation and tips for parents educating and caring for kids at home while working. Mary and Monica also reflect on lessons learned from reverse mentoring and things they wish they had known earlier in their careers. Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here.
4/22/20201 hour, 7 minutes, 5 seconds
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Anastasia Savvateeva - Global Compliance is a New Adventure Every Day

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley. In this episode of Great Women in Compliance, Lisa speaks with Anastasia Savvateeva. This episode was recorded before the COVID-19 pandemic, and Anastasia had not yet started her new role as Senior Compliance Officer at Pictet Group. Anastasia is a globetrotter - she was born in Ukraine, moved to Moscow, and received education and started her compliance career in France, before moving to Luxembourg earlier this year. Anastasia's global perspective, particularly working in France, is one that is valuable for any of us that are trying to build a compliance community in a global organization. Anastasia just completed a role at Deutsche Bank and she experienced working in a compliance department that is now under pressure from a very public compliance issue.   In a time where many compliance officers wear many hats, Anastasia talks about the many roles we have every day - and compares them to some unforgettable characters in books and movies. There are some really fun analogies, and maybe provides they provide some ideas for your enjoyment during this time of staying at home.  Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here.
4/15/202016 minutes, 48 seconds
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Mary & Lisa on Compliance and Coronavirus

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley. COVID-19 has had a monumental impact all over the world. Every day, we see new public health issues, are living through economic challenges and everyone's daily lives are very different than a year ago, or even 3 months ago. In this special joint episode, Mary and Lisa share various perspectives of the new normal in their day-to-day lives regarding how the Coronavirus has affected both work and home during this era. The discussion runs the gamut from serious to lighthearted topics including contrasting life in lockdown in New Zealand for Mary with Lisa’s observations from the United States. You'll hear a bit about their experiences at work, in the compliance communities and some tips for vendors to facilitate value add outreach to Compliance professions at this sensitive time. Of course, they also share what is on their reading and viewing lists, the exchange of uplifting moments, silver linings and what they are doing to support their colleagues, families and communities. Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here.
4/8/202041 minutes, 2 seconds
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Penny Milner-Smyth on What the Brain Has to do with Compliance

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley. In episode 55 we highlight some of the hottest areas in Compliance right now – behavioral and cognitive science. At its core, Compliance is really about shaping behaviors so it is no surprise why Compliance Officers are taking an increasing interest in behavioral economics and how we can use it to better understand our key stakeholders and use the information as tools to help shape the culture of integrity in our companies. The Great Women in Compliance team loves to talk about the issues of the day so we took the opportunity to invite Penny Milner-Smyth, who has a psychology educational background and now uses research to help Compliance teams succeed, to be on the show. Penny speaks with Mary Shirley about how we as Compliance Officers can foster psychological safety in the workplace and use that to encourage deployment of your reporting hotline. It’s critical aspiration for companies to reach – Google researchers identified psychological safety as the number one factor of importance in successful teams. In Compliance, particularly during investigations, we often come across employees who are described as bad actors. Penny gives us the lowdown on whether people are ever easily compartmentalized into the categories of good and bad and helps us to identify factors that tend to “push” good people to do bad things. Penny’s insights and practical advice from an organizational psychology perspective, including how you can get increased ethical behavior from your workforce just by being conscious of where on employee forms you place certain wording, is not to be missed! See Mary’s article Why You Should Draft a Compliance Mission Statement, on Corporate Compliance Insights. Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here.
3/18/202037 minutes, 37 seconds
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Breaking the Glass Ceiling for Muslim Women in Private Practice

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley.In this episode of GWIC, Lisa speaks with Fatema Merchant, who is an International Trade and White Collar Defense partner at Sheppard Mullin. She is also the first hijab-wearing woman to make partner at a Washington, D.C., Am Law 100 firm. Fatema talks about wearing the hijab in the context of how each of us expresses our identities and some common misconceptions. Many of us, women and men, may feel like our identities impact how others view our roles in meetings and investigations and Fatema speaks about her own experiences.  When Fatema made partner, many South Asian, Muslim and women attorneys reached out to her and she talks about the role of mentorship in creating diverse leaders in the compliance and legal professions. Fatema is also a member of the steering committee for Sheppard Mullin's Organizational Integrity Group. OIG helps clients avoid potential crises by identifying and addressing threats to companies’ integrity through proactive solutions. As Lisa works in-house, Fatema turns the tables on Lisa and asks her some questions about working with outside counsel. Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here.
3/11/202020 minutes, 45 seconds
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Beth Colling: The Public Speaking Guru

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley. In episode 53 of the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, we speak with Beth Colling, the Chief Compliance Officer of CDM Smith, a global engineering and construction company.   In this packed episode we ruminate about several topics including the false sense of security low risk countries can provide, keeping up with an exercise routine as a busy professional and hear what it’s like for an executive to shuttle between two different cities regularly – Beth’s home base is in Charlotte and CDM Smith is headquartered in Boston – Beth lives in both cities! Beth’s reputation as a popular and engaging public speaker precedes her – she is one of the best of the best. If you see her on a conference agenda, you will not regret going to her session. In light of that we asked Beth for her public speaking and presentation secrets to help you in your next Compliance training or conference presentation. Have you entered our contest to win a complimentary registration at Compliance Week’s annual conference yet? If not, head over to our LinkedIn page, you can find it by searching Great Women in Compliance Podcast Community, scroll down for the post on the contest and comment with your biggest takeaway from listening to the podcast. It’s as easy as that! Entries close on 12 March 2020 so get yours in now! Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here.
3/4/202045 minutes, 29 seconds
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Ellen Hunt on Succeeding As a CCO: Strategy and Practical Advice From Day 1

In today's episode of Great Women in Compliance, Lisa speaks with Ellen Hunt, who is the Senior Vice President and Audit, Ethics and Compliance Officer for AARP. Ellen has accomplished so much for the compliance community, in the field and is a friend, advocate and mentor to a lot of people, Lisa and Mary included. Following along from the episode a few weeks ago about a dream compliance team, this discussion is about what makes a great Chief Ethics and Compliance Officer (although the title may differ from place to place). The discussion includes a discussion of what the roles and responsibilities are and should be for a new CECO. This includes some thought about how to manage expectations of a Board and executive team, including the idea of looking at a program and seeing what may not be needed before adding new initiatives. Ellen also talks about the best ways to lead a team, balancing the needs of high performers with other team members as a new CECO. She provides a few practical strategies that anyone can use at any time with their teams or within the organization. Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here.
2/26/202024 minutes, 31 seconds
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Sarah Hadden on Cross-Pollinated Project Groups

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley. In episode 51, Mary Shirley, speaks with Sarah Hadden, the Editor of Corporate Compliance Insights (CCI). They visit about an innovation for compliance professionals, cross-pollinated project groups.  One of the best parts of the GWIC podcast for Mary and Lisa is when it has resulted into new ideas for other initiatives. During Sarah Hadden’s interview (check out Episode 36 if you missed it!), we touched on the Fresenius Medical Care North America’s Compliance Department sub-group, the Marketing Team. The idea stemmed from previous Chief Compliance Officer, Lisa Estrada and was brought to life by the cross-pollinated team of staff who would become responsible for department branding, delivering Compliance Week events to 66,000 staff and re-vamp of Compliance Action Line materials. In this conversation, we draw on Sarah’s significant subject matter expertise as a marketing and communications professional to highlight some of the key marketing techniques that Compliance Departments ought to consider when implementing similar teams within their own departments and Mary shares the success stories and hard lessons learned from two years leading the FMCNA Compliance marketing team. We walk through some of the key factors to think about when implementing your own cross-pollinated focus teams within your Compliance Department and touch on some of the subjects beyond marketing that you might benefit from creating specialist taskforces to work on. We dare you not to be inspired to create your own cross-pollinated project teams! Building anything should have architects, contractors, and inspectors, and we hope you enjoy thinking about your work and the role you and your colleagues play on your dream team. Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here.
2/19/202050 minutes, 31 seconds
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#GWIC Wins

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley. In this Episode 50, Mary Shirley and Lisa Fine sit down together for a very special episode.  After getting the chance to speak together about the best professional advice that listeners had ever received at the end of the year, Lisa and Mary received some great feedback from listeners. Some of the responses were about achievements of our community, and they took that feedback and decided to team up again in this latest episode which is all about celebrating in the "wins" experienced by listeners of the podcast who have taken the insight of our guests and people in the podcast community and moved their careers and/or professional development forward.. All of the feedback that Mary and Lisa receive, positive or negative, is important in developing the GWIC podcast and community. But there is nothing that brings more joy and pride than when they hear about how the podcast has resulted in favorable outcomes for their guests and listeners. This episode is a way to share that joy with all listeners and celebrate in the achievements of others. Because when one of us does well, collectively all of our boats rise. Listen in to hear about the personal journeys of the listeners with the stories they have submitted and the feedback provided by guests. Lisa and Mary cap off the episode by sharing how hosting the podcast has touched each of their lives. You’ll also have the chance to hear how to snag yourself a huge Compliance Week professional development opportunity as one of the podcast’s valued listeners! Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here.
2/12/202025 minutes, 36 seconds
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Episode 49- Carrie Penman on the Convergence of Compliance and Operational Risk

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley. In episode 49, Mary Shirley, speaks with Carrie Penman, Chief Compliance Officer at Navex Global. They visit about the convergence of compliance risk and operational risk. Once referred to by Matt Kelly as a “national treasure”, the GWIC team is pleased to feature Carrie Penman, Chief Risk and Compliance Officer of Navex Global in episode 49. Mary speaks with Carrie about the convergence of operational and compliance risk, what it’s like being a Compliance professional at a Compliance vendor as opposed to in-house in other industries and Carrie shares two of her favorite success stories with us – because GWIC believe it’s important to celebrate in the successes of other women.  Of course, we would be remiss not to tap into Carrie’s insider insights as a specialist within the world of reporting hotlines. So we ask her for a behind the scenes peak as to her thoughts on the common pitfalls companies make when rolling out reporting mechanisms and how to best troubleshoot these issues. We spend time discussing what companies can do to make their hotline a success, including concerted efforts to re-vamp your reporting line communications campaign and why it’s important to re-visit it, as well as the difficult topic of Compliance Officers sometimes being the most reluctant to speak up. Mary wraps up the episode by sharing a simple tip for positively drawing attention to your achievements by inserting favorable adverbs when mentioning your work – something that studies show men are typically much better at than their female counterparts, so let’s level the playing field by putting the advice into action! It's an episode packed with high value content and as always, Carrie Penman is a crowd pleaser. Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here.
2/5/202039 minutes, 36 seconds
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Gwen Romack on Creating a Multi-Faceted Dream Team

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley.In episode 48, Lisa Fine speaks with Gwen Romack, who is the Senior Director of Legal and Regulatory Compliance at VMWare. They visit about creating multi-faceted ‘Dream Teams’ for a corporate compliance function. Almost every compliance practitioner is asked at least once “what do you mean by compliance?” And, the answer is often very different, depending on many factors – public or private sector, non-profit, geography…just to name a few. It’s also hard to build a compliance team to address the different parts of each program. Prior to that her current position of Senior Director of Legal and Regulatory Compliance at VMWare where she has been for the past four years, Gwen spent twenty years at HP, growing her career first outside of compliance and then in the area of ethics and compliance, building a public sector program. Gwen has built many different programs, and Lisa and Gwen start to build one version of a “dream team.” Gwen is a senior compliance leader, and she is not an attorney, and has looked at various work areas. Her perspective on how attorneys and non-attorneys work together to build a team to look at four pillars of compliance that she categorizes as awareness, process controls, inspection, and mitigation. As a woman in compliance, as well as a non-attorney, Gwen also discusses her experiences with imposter syndrome, which impacts so many people, of all genders and that sometimes one type of imposter syndrome replaces another, and how to move past it altogether. Building anything should have architects, contractors, and inspectors, and we hope you enjoy thinking about your work and the role you and your colleagues play on your dream team. Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here.
1/29/202025 minutes, 29 seconds
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Sofia El Mansouri, Middle East Compliance Perspectives

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley.  In episode 47 of the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley are pleased to feature Sofia El Mansouri, a native of Morocco who has spent many years practicing Compliance in the Middle East. Sofia outlines for us the current state of the fight against corruption in the Morocco, including ambitions of the National Anti-Corruption Commission to do its part in focusing on Ethics and Compliance. Sofia also shares the perspective of someone sitting at the desk of a Compliance function in the Middle East and highlights some of the key risk areas as well as give pointers on a couple of key aspects to be aware of to make sure you’re covering adequately if you’re a Compliance Officer outside of the Middle East region but with remit over the area. As a veritable professional media guru, Sofia kindly shares her recipe for crafting value-add LinkedIn posts that create engagement and facilitate topical discussion as well as give the author solid professional media presence which in turn builds your profile. Our final thought for the episode is an easy tip that you can implement now at the outset of the year that will not only make your end of year performance appraisal a breeze to complete but also serve as useful preparation for your next job interview. Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here.
1/22/202025 minutes, 5 seconds
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Kim Yapchai-Transforming Compliance

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley. In this episode of GWIC, Lisa speaks with Kim Yapchai, who is the Chief Ethics and Compliance Officer for Tenneco. Kim did not start in the ethics and compliance field by choice - she became responsible for ethics and compliance during the 2008-2009 recession as part of a large staff reduction.  Kim went from an involuntary compliance officer to a leader in the ethics and compliance community by developing a program based on "transformational leadership" - developing a holistic program, working with her team and achieving results in both her prior and current role, both in E&C and in corporate social responsibility. A great deal of Kim's career has been in the automotive and manufacturing industries, two male-dominated industries. She discusses how she has thrived in these industries as a woman, and a person with a blended heritage. Kim is also a great supporter of ethics and compliance professionals and discusses how she uses LinkedIn and building her network to help others...and how that is something she enjoys. Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here.
1/15/202020 minutes, 26 seconds
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Olga Pontes-Planting the Seeds of Compliance

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley. In this episode, Lisa Fine has a conversation with Olga Pontes, the Chief Compliance Officer at Odebrecht SA. What do you do when faced with the largest foreign bribery case of all time? In Odebrecht’s case they identified a fearless leader who would face the big job ahead of being the new Chief Compliance Officer of the company with optimism and strength. Meet Olga Pontes, the executive and Great Woman in Compliance tasked with leading the Compliance function and post settlement workstreams including project managing multiple monitorships! We speak with Olga, who started out her career as an external auditor at a big four firm, about what it was like commencing the Odebrecht role three years ago compared with how she is feeling further down the track with a lot of hard work under her the belt of her team and seek her advice for other multi-national corporations who are at the beginning of a similarly daunting situation having recently settled with regulators. Olga also shares her major goal for going into 2020 with our audience. As we go into a new year, we take the time to plan ahead and strategically think about our professional goals. In Lisa and Mary’s case it’s a time to reflect on the previous year of podcast episodes and direct our thoughts to what we wish to achieve for the Great Women in Compliance podcast in the year ahead to best benefit our audience. As always, we welcome your thoughts to inform this process. Is there anything you want to see more of, you think we should stop doing or start doing? If so, we’re all ears. We strongly believe that when you stop accepting feedback, you stop developing so we make a conscious effort to seek feedback that not only helps give our listeners what they want, but also helps us become better at our labor of love hobby, making podcasts! Wishing all of our listeners a very happy and prosperous new year ahead. Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here.
1/8/202021 minutes, 17 seconds
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The Best Professional Advice Episode

Today's Great Women in Compliance podcast is a little different. At the most recent SCCE Compliance and Ethics Institute held in September, Lisa and Mary asked the session attendees to provide examples of the best professional advice they received, and we had a lot of great information from women throughout the ethics and compliance community. It was a unique opportunity for Mary and Lisa to be on the same episode, as most of the GWIC podcasts are with one of them interviewing ethics and compliance leaders. We got exceptional insights from this community, and Lisa and Mary thought it would be the perfect way to end the 2019 podcasts. Not only did Great Women in Compliance's first full year brought lots of great discussions on the podcast, it brought out constant reminders of the fantastic individuals that make up the GWIC community. We all hope you enjoy this advice from the GWIC Community and best wishes to you and yours in 2020. Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here.
12/11/201921 minutes, 2 seconds
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Lidia Lopez Trabalon: From Rules to Mindset: How Unconscious Bias Impact Compliance Programs

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley. In this episode, Lisa Fine has a conversation with Lidia Lopez Trabalon, who is the Group Compliance Officer at SBM Offshore. We all have biases, conscious and unconscious, and these impact our thoughts every day. But how often do we think about them as part of our programs - both for ethics and compliance professionals and for those with whom we work. In today's Great Women in Compliance episode, Lisa Fine speaks with Lidia Lopez Trabalon, who is the Group Compliance Officer at SBM Offshore, based in Amsterdam, which provides floating production solutions to the offshore energy industry.  Lidia talks about her experience in growing a speak up culture and looking at three phases of speaking up observation, motivation and communication. By focusing on the motivation phase, and what biases may move people to speak up - or choose not to speak up - and how to use this knowledge to encourage speaking up. Lidia also talks about her experience with a recent joint venture in India - and how an Amsterdam and Europe-based company has started to build a culturally sensitive ethics and compliance programs while staying true to the values that are critical. She also provides some practical tips about growing a strong speak-up culture, particularly in Europe, as well as about her JV experience. As we go into a new year, we take the time to plan ahead and strategically think about our professional goals. In Lisa and Mary’s case it’s a time to reflect on the previous year of podcast episodes and direct our thoughts to what we wish to achieve for the Great Women in Compliance podcast in the year ahead to best benefit our audience. As always, we welcome your thoughts to inform this process. Is there anything you want to see more of, you think we should stop doing or start doing? If so, we’re all ears. We strongly believe that when you stop accepting feedback, you stop developing so we make a conscious effort to seek feedback that not only helps give our listeners what they want, but also helps us become better at our labor of love hobby, making podcasts! Wishing all of our listeners a very happy and prosperous new year ahead. Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here.
12/4/201929 minutes, 17 seconds
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Cindy Morrison-Part 2, Espousing the Four Agreements

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley. In this Part 2 of a special two-part episode, Mary Shirley begins a conversation with Cindy Morrison. Cindy is the Director of Compliance at Post Holdings, Inc. Mary and Cindy re-unite after their first episode in this two-part series to discuss an infliction suffered across both genders – that of Imposter Syndrome. Cindy shares her own thoughts and experiences when suffering self-doubt or a crisis of confidence. Cindy also addresses the resources that she uses to keep up knowledge for her own professional development, despite many years as a Compliance practitioner and some examples of readings and conferences she has recommended to her boss who is new to Corporate Compliance. A resource that has had a profound professional and personal impact on Cindy is the book “The Four Agreements” by Don Miguel Ruiz and she shares some of the main takeaways of this book for her. Cindy’s enthusiasm for the book was so contagious that Mary immediately ordered a copy for herself after the two had breakfast together recently and Cindy mentioned how life changing it had been for her. We round out the episode with a request from Mary to the listeners of the Great Women in Compliance Podcast to show solidarity and support to those working around us in the hope that it will have a positive effect, particularly for those who might be battling with Imposter Syndrome. Cindy also shares her journey getting to her current position, having started out as a paralegal. She goes on to discuss how her passion for Compliance goes beyond her 9-5 job as one of the organizers of a community of Compliance professionals in the St Louis area and gives tip on how to make such group get togethers work for listeners interested in establishing their own local networks of Compliance meetings with colleagues from neighboring companies. If you enjoy this episode or the podcast generally, please rate this podcast in your favorite podcast player where you can find the discussions with Cindy and all of our other episodes.  Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here.
11/27/201931 minutes, 46 seconds
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Cindy Morrison-Part 1, Espousing the Four Agreements

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley. In this Part 1 of a special two-part episode, Mary Shirley begins a conversation with Cindy Morrison. Cindy is the Director of Compliance at Post Holdings, Inc. Like many great Compliance relationships, Mary met Cindy Morrison through Compliance Connector Jay Rosen at a volunteering event in Las Vegas in the lead up to the 2015 SCCE CEI. Mary identified Cindy as an exemplary candidate for the Great Women in Compliance Podcast because of her calm and unwavering presence in environments of chaos and noise – a key strength for any capable and grounded Compliance Officer. In this episode, part one of a two-part series with Cindy, Cindy shares some of the risks specific to the food industry as she works as Director of Compliance at Post Holdings. Cindy also shares her journey getting to her current position, having started out as a paralegal. She goes on to discuss how her passion for Compliance goes beyond her 9-5 job as one of the organizers of a community of Compliance professionals in the St Louis area and gives tip on how to make such group get togethers work for listeners interested in establishing their own local networks of Compliance meetings with colleagues from neighboring companies. If you enjoy this episode or the podcast generally, please rate this podcast in your favorite podcast player where you can find this discussion with Cindy and all of our other episodes.  Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here.
11/20/20191 hour, 2 minutes, 42 seconds
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Episode 40-Renata Moreti, on Curating an Amazing Ethics and Compliance Program by Using Outside Interest and Experiences

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley. In this episode of #GWIC, Lisa speaks with Renata Moreti, Head of Controls, Compliance and Ethics for Diageo in Peru, Ecuador, Bolivia, Argentina and Chile.  Renata has had a varied career in ethics and compliance, and has been based primarily in Brazil and Chile, with a short time in Madrid.   When Renata moved to Chile, she wanted to take her understanding of wine to a new level and became so passionate about what she was learning that she became a sommelier...as well as working with sommeliers to be aware of ethics and compliance requirements. Renata talks about how following her passion for wine outside her ethics and compliance life enhanced her professional work - how to amaze employees with ethics and compliance trainings and knowledge as she does with wine and food experiences.  She also discusses her experiences being based in South America and including trainings that have worked for her and also best practices for those who work with South America and are based in other places. And, just in time for the holidays, she has provided some information about Chilean wines and a link to her Instagram page: @bomdiaframbuesa If you enjoy this episode or the podcast generally, please rate this podcast in your favorite podcast player where you can find this discussion with Renata and all of our other episodes.  Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here. 
11/13/201929 minutes, 53 seconds
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Michelle Shapiro, Part 2 on the Private Practice Angle

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley. Today, Mary concludes her two-part episode with Michelle Shapiro, a partner at the law firm of Arent Fox. Michelle is a career white collar criminal defense attorney who has spent nearly 20 years representing individuals and companies through all phases of investigations and criminal proceedings by federal and state prosecutors and regulators, related to myriad high-stakes issues, such as alleged corruption; insider trading; money laundering; tax, health care, securities and accounting fraud; anti-trust violations; and cyber and other crimes. She also conducts internal investigations of potential misconduct by corporate officers, employees, and agents, including multifaceted transnational investigations for Fortune 500 companies. Mary speaks with Michelle Shapiro, a partner at Arent Fox about her Compliance experience from the perspective of external counsel. Episode Two with Michelle opens with interesting insights from Michelle based on her experience volunteering on the WomenLEAD Committee and Diversity and Inclusion Committee at a previous law firm. She shares details of the success stories of those committees which is timely information for anyone thinking about setting up similar committees in their own workplace. The conversation to asks us to think beyond a token gesture initiative in these areas and consider what companies can do to show that they are truly invested in the advancement of women leaders and valuing diversity and inclusion. Mary asks Michelle to draw on some of her benchmarking oversight (one of the aspects of working in consultancy that Mary really misses is getting insight into what several other companies are doing firsthand) and share developments she has observed of companies evolving their due diligence program. To wrap up the episode Mary and Michelle talk about a couple of the key things they look out for when conducting investigations across borders. Listen in to this episode where Michelle turns the tables on Mary and throws in some surprise questions of her own! If you enjoy this episode or the podcast generally, please rate our podcast in your favorite podcast player where you can find part one of this discussion with Michelle and all of our other episodes. Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here.
11/6/201931 minutes, 13 seconds
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Michelle Shapiro-The Private Practice Angle, Part 1

Welcome to Great Women in Compliance. In this Part 1 of a two-part series, Mary Shirley is joined by Michelle Shapiro. Mary and Michelle are not strangers to presenting together, having previously run a three hour workshop on due diligence for life sciences companies in the past. Today they join forces again in a special two part series. In the first episode of this two part-series, Michelle talks about the aspirational goal of many young lawyers – to become a partner in a law firm and explains what it was like as a young professional knowing that she wanted to be successful, but not necessarily sure of what that might look like exactly or what form it might take. Michelle shines the light on the Womens White Collar Defence Association which she is heavily involved in and shares the origin story and motivator for such an association. Mary and Michelle discuss options available to in-house lawyers and Compliance professions wanting to start up their own such networking group. Listen in to this episode where Michelle turns the tables on Mary and throws in some surprise questions of her own! In this two part series, Mary speaks with Michelle Shapiro, a partner at Arent Fox about her Compliance experience from the perspective of external counsel. Episode two with Michelle opens with interesting insights from Michelle based on her experience volunteering on the WomenLEAD Committee and Diversity and Inclusion Committee at a previous law firm. She shares details of the success stories of those committees which is timely information for anyone thinking about setting up similar committees in their own workplace. The conversation to asks us to think beyond a token gesture initiative in these areas and consider what companies can do to show that they are truly invested in the advancement of women leaders and valuing diversity and inclusion. Mary asks Michelle to draw on some of her benchmarking oversight (one of the aspects of working in consultancy that Mary really misses is getting insight into what several other companies are doing first hand) and share developments she has observed of companies evolving their due diligence program. To wrap up the episode Mary and Michelle talk about a couple of the key things they look out for when conducting investigations across borders.
10/30/201931 minutes, 5 seconds
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Barbara Petitti, When Change is a Consistency in a Compliance Program

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley. For some compliance professionals, sometimes the only constant is change. Today, Lisa speaks with Barbara Petitti, Ethics & Compliance Officer, Policy Enforcement and Investigations at Alstom. Barbara started in compliance through a role in Human Resources with a defense contractor and joined Alstom, a French transportation company, seven years ago.  When Barbara started at Alstom, they were in the midst of addressing serious corruption issues which included investigations with the World Bank, the U.S. Department of Justice and the UK Serious Fraud Office. During this time several executives were indicted by the DOJ and ultimately Alstom paid a $772m criminal penalty to the US Department of Justice. That was the start of her story. Since Barbara started at Alstom. Her role evolved, and she addressed changes. Here are a few: Having seven bosses in six years; Acting as North American Compliance Officer for three entities; Traveling globally 30-40% of the time to lead global initiatives; and Supporting Alstom when there were 100,000 employees as well as with 35,000 employees. Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here.
10/23/201921 minutes, 41 seconds
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Sarah Hadden on Telling Stories of Compliance

Great women in Compliance come from all different backgrounds (we love diversity!) but also don’t necessarily work in Compliance Officer roles. There are many Compliance related functions that we interact with and benefit from on a regular basis as Compliance professionals. Today we are pleased to feature one of such wonderful examples – Sarah Hadden who is the owner and publisher of Corporate Compliance Insights (CCI). CCI is a news outlet with articles and featuring podcasts such as the Great Women in Compliance (GWIC) podcast . The best thing about it is that it’s free to access and Sarah intends to keep it that way. Which is welcome news for all of us carefully counting our Compliance budget pennies! Sarah also features on one of our sister podcasts on the Compliance Podcast Network as series regular on Everything Compliance.  We talk about: Sarah’s decision-making when confronted with several forks in the road.The CCI origin story and free of charge offerings for Compliance professionals.Tips for getting an article accepted by a Compliance publication.Hot topics of the moment… and not so hot topics because they’ve been written about so often it’s the same article re-published over and over – yes we’re looking at you GDPR readiness.What makes a thought leader. Lisa and Mary count Sarah as one of the GWIC podcast’s greatest supporters. She has sponsored several episodes, provides ideas and inspiration for episodes and cheers us on from the sidelines when not in the game as a guest on the show herself! We are extremely grateful for Sarah’s encouragement and promotion of our podcast on CCI.  Listen in to hear about how Sarah, a trained journalist, found her Compliance destiny. Check out Corporate Compliance Insights here. 
10/16/201934 minutes, 9 seconds
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Lisa Fine on Protecting Whistleblowers and People Raising Concerns: An In-House Perspective

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley. In this week’s episode of Great Women in Compliance, they take things in a different direction as Tom Fox interviews Lisa Fine on the role of a compliance professional in the internal reporting process.  Some of the highlights include:·      Why you must establish a culture of trust to enable effective internal reporting. ·      It takes courage for an employee to step forward and report unacceptable behavior.·      Why a compliance officer must think strategically when evaluating an internal whistleblower report. ·      Always consult with in-house legal.·      Managing expectations both up and down the corporate hierarchy is critical.·      How does the Fair Process Doctrine play into a reporting system? Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here. 
10/9/201919 minutes, 26 seconds
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Caitlyn Tobey on Giving it Back to the Compliance Community and Building a Network

In this episode of Great Women in Compliance, Lisa speaks with Caitlyn Tobey, who is best known for starting and developing a well-known study group for the SCCE CCEP and CCEP-I program.  When Mary and Lisa were discussing potential guests, they both thought about Caitlyn because of the growth of her study groups and network.  Caitlyn is an active member of the GWIC podcast community on  LinkedIn, and at almost the same time, gave feedback saying it would be great to hear from some individuals who are newer to the compliance profession...and was very surprised to get a message asking her if she would participate. Caitlyn is a research and development paralegal at EMD Serono, and started her compliance career in the mortgage industry.  She talks about how she managed to grow her career in healthcare compliance and then started her study group for the CCEP after she benefited from one when she received healthcare compliancer certification.  Remarkably, she does this at no cost to the study group attendees, and her last session had 90 attendees.   She talks about how the groups have allowed her to give back to the compliance community as well as grow her own network.  It is so exciting to see these groups of dedicated compliance professionals grow and evolve, and a perfect episode for the one that follows National Compliance Officer Day.
10/2/201918 minutes, 31 seconds
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Highlights from CEI 2019 Roundtable Debrief

We recorded a special episode of Great Women in Compliance this week.  A roundtable session was held at the Gaylord Resort and Convention Center at National Harbor -  right from the SCCE CEI.  This year’s conference attracted nearly 1900 attendees and was packed full of interesting sessions from substantive topics to soft skills to motivational and inspirational, which we hope our session “Starting the Great Women in Compliance Podcast.  How an Idea from the SCCE 2018 CEI Evolved into a Podcast and What We Learned” was for some of the attendees.  Podcast hosts Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley were joined for this episode by two popular and prominent Great Women in Compliance, Amii Barnard-Bahn and Ellen Hunt to share insights, observations and learnings from this year’s conference.  We talked about a few of the sessions of the conference and the key takeaways from each, top tips for networking specifically at conferences to make the most of the in person experience, developments in relation to women on boards and overall highlights from attending the conference.  Lisa and Mary would like to extend sincere gratitude to the folks that introduced themselves at the conference, supported our session, podcast and supplied us with feedback.  It was a wonderful experience meeting so many of our LinkedIn connections including several Great Women in Compliance in person and we very much look forward to seeing you all again next year.
9/25/201920 minutes, 5 seconds
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Kirsten Liston on Training that Resonates

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley. In this week’s episode of Great Women in Compliance, Mary Shirley sits down with Kirsten Liston to talk about some of the old school ways of Compliance training and more modern approaches that will help better get your message across. Kirsten’s a pretty darn good authority on effective Compliance training – she’s just released a book on the very subject called “Creating Great Compliance Training in a Digital World”. Some of the highlights include:  Compliance programs used to be evaluated simply by having certain fundamentals in place.  Policies? Check. Training? Check.  Hotline for reporting? Check.   Compliance has now evolved to where regulators are asking questions about whether the aforementioned cornerstones of your compliance program are any good. Are they effective?  Do they help employees do their jobs in a more ethical way? Do employees understand what is required of them?  Do they retain education and messaging?  Are they receiving it often enough?  The considerations nowadays go far beyond the mere existence of controls. We bust the following myths: Legalese driven language is the only way to go.  Let’s make materials that appear to have been written by lawyers, for lawyers.  After all, Compliance is a serious topic. In order to be sufficiently comprehensive and really teach the learner everything they need to know; Compliance training should be at least an hour long to view or read. Annual training needs to cover every single risk area under the sun, every year, otherwise we’re leaving ourselves open to scrutiny from regulators. We round out the episode to consider whether being “too nice” is an impediment to success.
9/4/201938 minutes, 45 seconds
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Danette Joslyn-Gaul on Effective Leadership and Growing a Compliance Community

In this week's Great Women in Compliance Podcast, Lisa interviews Danette Joslyn-Gaul, Vice President of Global Compliance and Associate General Counsel at Pearson.   This episode is also sponsored by Corporate Compliance Insights. In April of this year, Lisa joined Pearson as the Director, Compliance for the Americas.  When Lisa learned about the role, she started researching the company, and Danette.  Danette had been shortlisted for the Women in Compliance awards, both in her individual capacity and for the compliance team.  This was one of the things that made this such a great opportunity for Lisa, and as you will hear in the podcast, it is one great example of the connections that are built in compliance teams and in the compliance community as a whole. In particular, Danette talks about how she became interested in this compliance role while at Pearson, and how her involvement in compliance grew from a perception of compliance as primarily gifts and hospitality, to a fully-formed ethics and compliance program. She discusses one of the team's first major initiatives - a global third-party due diligence project, and the support she received from Pearson leadership and the Board.  This project spanned the entire globe, and is a model for a due diligence initiative. Danette is based in Atlanta, Georgia, and leads a team where many team members are in different locations or remote (and none in Atlanta).  She discusses her approach to leading this type of team, and how she helps the team to evolve and grow in a time of change within the company and global compliance challenges.
8/28/201922 minutes, 44 seconds
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Compliance Trailblazing with Kris Robidoux

There is nothing more inspiring than hearing about someone who has been there and done that.  In today’s episode we feature Kris Robidoux who was involved in the first two anti-bribery cases in Canada and led the way for those after her. Kris is a decorated Legal and Compliance professional with the title of Queen’s Counsel to her name as well as being named one of the Top 100 Women in Investigations by Global Investigations Review and One of Canada’s Top 25 Most Influential Lawyers by Canadian Lawyer Magazine. Mary was introduced to Kris by Compliance colleagues Jay Rosen and Jonathan Armstrong.  It was the beginning of a wonderful friendship.  Kris, Jonathan and Mary would go on to work together as panelists at conferences sharing global Compliance updates with able assistance from Jay who facilitated the interactive aspects of their sessions.  Throughout her time knowing Kris, Mary has considered her to be one of her Compliance role models and knows that she will always be received with a warm smile and words of wisdom when meeting Kris. In this episode, Kris shares her thought leadership on observing gaps in the market coupled with timing, to position yourself to lead the charge in new areas of the law, a top consideration for companies that may have to deal with the legalization of cannabis and its impact on company policies, her biggest lesson learned transitioning from a compliance and investigations practice in a global law firm to a compliance role in a corporation, dealing with possible retaliation cases when conducting investigations and working through challenges of colleagues undermining Compliance. We close this episode by canvassing the effects of microaggressions in the workplace and how you can play a part in lessening these detrimental effects.
8/21/201935 minutes, 31 seconds
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Letitia Adu Ampoma-A View of Compliance from Africa

On today's episode of Great Women in Compliance, Lisa speaks with Letitia Adu Ampoma, Director, Peverett Maxwell.   Peverett Maxwell provides compliance consulting and advisory services to organisations working in Africa, and she is based in Ghana. Lisa and Letitia met at the 2016 SCCE European conference and heard Letitia speak about the culture of compliance in Africa, and the differences between Africa and the west, and also between countries and regions in Africa.Letitia's career has taken her all over the world, and she started in compliance when she moved back to Ghana just as the UK Bribery Act was introduced.  She has become a leader in global compliance, and discussed cultural differences that all compliance practitioners should consider when working in Africa, the importance of how to focus on processes and goals, and key compliance trends in Africa right now, especially mobile banking and data privacy. Letitia has lived all over the world, and this has impacted her viewpoint both on best practices in compliance and in business as a whole.  Letitia has always followed her instinct, whether it was to move home to Ghana from the UK, or to get involved in compliance, or to work in companies or now at Peverett Maxwell in her current role.  Her wealth of knowledge and experiences - makes her a #gwic and great friend.
8/14/201928 minutes, 3 seconds
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Cultivating the Next Generation of Compliance Officers-Barbara Boehler

The Great Women in Compliance Podcast is hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley who believe that when women support other women, collectively everyone’s boat rises.  With this in mind, the #GWIC podcast puts the spotlight on women who have trailblazed in Compliance, hold remarkable achievements and have actionable advice to help advance other women in the industry. In this week’s episode feature, Mary speaks with Barbara Boehler, who is currently Director of Programming at Compliance Week, a magazine and events company in the Compliance space.  Barbara is also an adjunct professor at Boston University and the Suffolk Law School in Boston.   Some of the highlights include:The life cycle from lawyer to Compliance Officer to directing events and sprinkling in lecturingThe differences between financial services compliance vs corporate complianceBarbara’s number one tip for success in financial services complianceWhat it’s like teaching the next generation of Compliance Officers about ComplianceWhat goes into the curriculum for Compliance lecturesSuggestions for getting into an Adjunct Professor roleHow lecturing can improve your skills as a Compliance professionalChief Compliance Officer hot topicsWhat makes a popular speaker at Compliance conferences and tips for angling speaking proposals to get selected.
8/7/201926 minutes, 27 seconds
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Hitting it out of the Park-an Interview with Fernanda Beraldi

In this episode of Great Women in Compliance podcast, Lisa Fine had the opportunity to speak with Fernanda Beraldi, who is Senior Director, Ethics and Compliance at Cummins, Inc.  Fernanda started her career in Sao Paolo in Brazil, and started on her path to compliance when she was a junior attorney who worked on one of the first FCPA cases in South America and saw first-hand what can happen when people are not "walking the walk," even if the policies are strong. Fernanda came to the United States for a masters in law program in Indiana, and stayed in Indianapolis.  We discussed a number of different things, including:Overcoming assumptions from others, including those in her LLM program assuming she would be interested in immigration or other South America focused areas;Breaking down cultural barriers and stereotypes as a Brazilian woman in the mid-west United States and about her work-life balanceThe use of American sports lingo and slang in business and some memorable and funny moments and conversations Fernanda has had in the USYou can find the Great Women in Compliance at our home on the Corporate Compliance Insights website at  https://www.corporatecomplianceinsights.com/great-women-in-compliance/and you can also search for it on itunes or your favorite podcast player.
7/31/201926 minutes, 1 second
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Promoting Public Trust-Amy Mertz Brown, Chief Compliance Officer of the SEC

For a long time, compliance was perceived as a part of the larger legal world. Today, compliance is its own profession -- a place where people work tirelessly to make the world a better place, one where doing the right thing is the standard for everyone. There are a lot of amazing and inspirational women who have helped the compliance field develop into what it is today and women who are joining this field every day. They are leading the work on cutting-edge issues and breaking barriers for women. Join Mary Shirley and Lisa Fine as they talk with women in compliance who are making a difference. In today's episode Mary visits with Amy Mertz Brown, Chief Compliance Officer of the SEC. They discussed her role and how it feels to have the responsibility of the head of the Compliance function for one of the most significant Compliance regulators in the world, her tips for success in technology implementations and her takeaways from spearheading the creation of a compliance function in a start-up federal agency. With her extensive managerial experience in legal and compliance departments, Amy also shared various approaches for addressing difficult stakeholders inside an inherited staff and how she prizes diversity as an important goal when building out her teams.
7/24/201924 minutes, 49 seconds
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Lauren Camilli on Compliance and Global Humanitarian Aid

Have you ever thought about what it would be like to work in a compliance program where you are also trying help those in most need all over the world?  Where your first concern in an investigation is to ensure the safety of the investigator and witnesses?  In this episode of Great Women in Compliance, Lisa talked with Lauren Camilli, the Vice President, General Counsel, Corporate Secretary, and Chief Ethics & Compliance Officer at Blumont, which is an international relief organization which supports infrastructure development and provides humanitarian aid globally.  Part of Blumont's role is also to support and protect women in countries where women are most vulnerable.  Lauren talks about her transition from compliance in the defense industry to her current role, her "paradigm shift," and the difference between most compliance roles and the non-profits.  She also provides some information about how those of us in traditional corporate compliance programs can support non-profit and other programs.
7/17/201923 minutes, 21 seconds
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Great Women in Compliance- Olivia Seet on Recruiting in Compliance

In this episode of Great Women in Compliance, Mary Shirley speaks with Olivia Seet, a Legal and Compliance recruiter, about sought after skills in Compliance, the motherhood penalty and tips for improving your LinkedIn profile.  This episode has a special focus on the Asia Pacific Compliance market which should be welcome in light of the fact that our second and third highest listenership comes from Singapore and New Zealand!  Much of the advice proffered holds true across all geographical regions and the episode rounds out with some insights on the state of the market for Compliance professionals without legal backgrounds.
7/10/201943 minutes, 27 seconds
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Great Women in Compliance-Episode 24: Andrea Bonime-Blanc

In this episode of Great Women in Compliance, Lisa speaks with Andrea Bonime-Blanc, who has "done it all" during her career in compliance.  Andrea has been a leader in this area since the "greed is good" era in 1980s New York, has developed and implemented risk, ethics and compliance programs, and is currently the founder and CEO of  GEC Risk Advisory LLC.  She talks about her current appointment as the Ethics Advisor to the Financial Oversight and Management Board for Puerto Rico, her experiences as a member of a Board and some practical ideas for women (and men) in the ethics and compliance space to maximize their opportunities to become members of Boards.   She has also just completed a book "Gloom to Boom: How Leaders Transform Risk into Resilience and Value," which provides a practical roadmap for managing environmental, social, governance and technology (ESGT) risk and opportunity and the critical role that high integrity leaders play in creating ethical and sustainable organizational resilience
6/19/201926 minutes, 10 seconds
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Episode 23-Courtney Sander on Operationalizing Compliance

Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley are the proud co-hosts of Great Women in Compliance. They bring to you some of the top female compliance practitioners who relate some of the challenges they have faced and overcome in the compliance profession. In this episode, Mary visits with Courtney Sander about current trends and best practices in Compliance training, what it means to operationalize your program and how younger leaders can gain credibility with key stakeholders. Great Women is Compliance is a part of the Compliance Podcast Network and can be found on Spotify, iTunes, the FCPA Compliance Report and Corporate Compliance Insights.
6/12/201931 minutes
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Episode 22-Jacki Cheslow

In this episode, Lisa speaks with Jacki Cheslow, who is the Director, Business Ethics and Information Management for Avis Budget.  Jackie started her career in records management in a primarily domestic company, and now leads compliance for an employee base of approximately 30,000 people in 180 countries.  She talks about her work in a (formerly) male dominated industry, car rentals, and "speaking the language" of the men and women in the industry. Jacki is always innovating in compliance, and she talks about the success of Avis' Compliance Leader program, and how she has utilized this as part of her risk assessment process and dashboard.
6/5/201930 minutes, 20 seconds
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Episode 21-Compliance Week 2019 Roundup

In this special bonus podcast, the co-hosts of Great Women in Compliance, Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley are joined by Tom Fox, host of the FCPA Compliance Reportas well as Amii Bernard-Bahn. We all participated in the recently concluded Compliance Week 2019 and we sat down to provide some of our reflections on the conference. This podcast cross-posts on Great Women in Compliance. The episode is sponsored by Corporate Compliance Insights.  Some of the highlights include: Lisa Fine- the Key Note Presentation by Preet Bharara. Some of the highlights for Lisa were:·     Doing the right thing can often be the most expedient thing as well.·     The problems when you go right up to the ethical line.·     His career advice regarding learning the business side of things.  Mary Shirley- the presentation by Lisa Beth Lentini, Subhashis Nath and Robert Appleton on the behavioral science behind corporate compliance. Some of the highlights for Mary were: ·      The benefits of metrics in a best practices compliance program.·      Her surprise when the audience was polled that fewer than one-half in attendance are currently using data analytics in their corporate compliance programs.·      Data science will be a key component of compliance officers in a very short time.  Amii Bernard-Bahn-the reaction to and participation of the audience in two sessions Amii led on careers in corporate compliance. Some of the highlights for Amii included: ·     Compliance professionals are now thinking of their careers 3-5 years down the road. ·     CCOs are actively considering Board roles as a part of their compliance careers. ·     What are some of the business leadership skills a compliance professional needs to move to non-compliance roles in the C-Suite. Tom Fox-the Key Note address by Hui Chen on where compliance has been, where it is now and where it is going in the 2020’s and beyond. Some of the highlights for Tom were: ·     A review of the five decades of compliance.·     The current challenges for the compliance professional.·     Where is compliance and ethics headed into next decade.  For more information on this episode’s sponsor—Corporate Compliance Insights, check out their website here.  Subscribe to the FCPA Compliance Report.
5/29/201939 minutes, 7 seconds
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Episode 20-Mark Stanley on Men for the Advancement of Women

The conversation about gender equality cannot be held effectively without men being involved. In this episode of Great Women in Compliance, Mary Shirley visits with Mark Stanley,  We invited Mark Stanley, General Counsel of Fresenius Medical Care Asia Pacific and former head of Compliance at the company to speak with us as a noted sponsor and supporter of women. We discussed the daughter effect; which is the phenomenon that men who have daughters hire significantly more women, the role of men in Compliance to advance women in the field, overcoming unconscious bias in the workplace, particularly when hiring and advice for men in high powered positions who mentor women in the wake of the #metoo movement.
5/22/201930 minutes, 20 seconds
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Episode 19-Stacey Hanna on Evolving with Compliance

On this episode of Great Women in Compliance, Lisa Fine speaks with Stacey Hanna, General Counsel, Ethics & Compliance at Lonza, which is an  integrated solutions provider in the areas of pharma and biotech, and is headquartered in Switzerland. While Stacey started as an attorney, she was in the mergers and acquisition world, and how this influences her approach to ethics and compliance.  She discusses the evolution of her organization's compliance program and how she works to promote business growth, discussing some real-life examples and strategies to build relationships as a compliance officer. Stacey also discusses evolution in other areas, including work and life complimenting one another and in the compliance space as a whole.
5/15/201930 minutes, 20 seconds
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Knocking for Opportunities with Lisa Estrada

In this episode of Great Women in Compliance, Mary visits with Lisa Estrada. They discussed what it is like to go into law and compliance as a second career – Lisa started out work life in politics before going to law school as a young mother,  then working in health law in private practice before joining us at Fresenius Medical Care as the Chief Compliance Officer of the North America business.  Lisa gave advice for those wanting to get into healthcare compliance. Lisa gave her views on the benefits of proactively asking for opportunities at work to make your ambitions known.  We acknowledged that while this might be viewed as an aggressive move or maybe a staff member would be nervous about the reception if their requests were rejected, that overall this is a good tactic if you will for signaling to a manager that you are hungry for more.  While the manager may not be in a position to grant you the precise request at the given time, at the very least it will show an attitude for wanting to develop and better yourself and the manager will now be conscious of what you’re looking for and look for other ways that may get you there if what you have suggested will not work for the moment. It is a fascinating exploration. Join us for this episode. 
5/8/201929 minutes, 23 seconds
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Doing the Right Thing with Charlotte Young

What is life like when your job is quite literally “doing the right thing?” Joining us on this episode is Charlotte Young, the Chief Risk and Compliance Officer at Winrock International. Today we’re talking about the important relationship a compliance officer should have with their board of directors, doing the right thing in and out of work, and two tips based on her decades of experience. Board of Directors: Charlotte has been on both sides of the board: as someone reporting to them, and as a volunteer board member. Reporting to the board is crucial for compliance directors, because you need to be at the top level on the inside, not only to have influence, but also to know what’s going on — so nurture that relationship. Working on a volunteer board, on the other hand, is a rewarding experience, especially because you’re in a position to really bring value and make a difference. Being on both has given her perspectives that she can bring to either role: as a board member, she can advocate for how issues should be dealt with on the ground (because she’s been there), and as a reporting officer, she knows exactly what and how much information a board needs to be able to strategize and guide an organization with. Doing the right thing: Charlotte agrees with Stephanie Davis: it’s too stressful not to be who you are in your job. We are more effective the more genuine and authentic we are, and Charlotte loves having a job where her job is to do the right thing. It’s not always easy, but it’s great to have a job where you’re the guiding light on things like integrity and transparency. It’s also changed her personal life. Charlotte shares a personal story of an example, because if her job is to do the right thing at work, then it’s also her job to do the right thing at home. You need a lot of judgment in these jobs because there are a lot of subtleties involved in compliance. So if you enjoy that, or if you feel like you have good judgment, you’re going to be a great fit. Two pieces of advice: One, fully appreciate the importance of spending time with your board. Your board wants to do the right thing, so for the most part, they’re willing to hear from compliance officers. Use your judgment and trust that you are doing the right thing with the board because they’re there for you as backup and support. Spend the energy to work on this relationship. Two, work on your recognition programs. Charlotte shares examples of how you can recognize people who have acted with integrity — whether publicly or privately, depending on the circumstances — that are great ways to thank people for the hard work that they do. Resources: Charlotte Young | Episode 9: The Only Woman in the Room with Stephanie Davis
5/1/201918 minutes, 26 seconds
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Large Scale Compliance Programs with Gwen Hassan

What is it like to run a compliance program that encompasses over 190 countries? Today we have Gwen Hassan, Managing Counsel and Trade Compliance Counsel for Global Compliance for CNH Industrial. She runs their compliance program globally, and today we’re talking about international trade, working with multiple cultures, and practical ways to step up in your career. Trade Compliance Trade compliance can be divided into three categories: (1) import, or bringing products into the country, (2) export, or moving products out and across borders, and (3) trade as a political tool, which includes things like boycotts and sanctions and denied parties. If you’re starting out with trade compliance, start with trade sanctions. These apply universally regardless of which side of the exchange you’re on, and it’s very easy to find the law. Best practice trade compliance programs A solid program will cover the three areas mentioned above: A program that addresses import risk and compliance, involving team members who are customs brokers, people who are licensed to conduct transactions through the import into the United States. The export side of your program, where you must be aware of all the different regulations that apply. Have a handle on your sanctions. Do you have a system for screening to make sure you’re not violating sanctions or restrictions of any kind? Going global A global role isn’t just “shifting” from a regional role — it’s akin to biting the whole apple at one time. Gwen’s advice? Get as much experience as you can on global projects, work on projects that span multiple regions or involve regions you’re not currently working on. Be the first to volunteer for these. And then make sure you have cultural or language skills, because they are a big deal. It’s easy to underestimate the impact of culture on a global team, so one of Gwen’s biggest challenges has been to learn not only to accept the cultural differences but find a way to work within them and get to the place you need to go. This requires some creativity and strategy, but it’s a challenge she enjoys a lot. Building international relationships There’s no replacing good old fashioned frequent flyer miles. Being face to face with people is so vitally important, especially in a number of cultures. Gwen recommends breaking bread with someone, sitting down for a meal, and getting to know each other on a personal level. Until you can establish that kind of trusting relationship with a person, it will be difficult to have a work relationship with them. Also, when you’re developing relationships with people, it’s easy to assume that your mindset and frame of reference is “the right one”. But people are coming into this relationship with their own frame of reference which they believe to be correct as well. Identify and acknowledge these so you can find a way to work well together.  Confidence Men apply for jobs they aren’t fully qualified for all the time. Women, not so much. How can we boost our confidence? Talk about the skills and knowledge you do have, be transparent about the gap, and then highlight your ability to learn. Talk about times when you’ve had to learn things quickly, how you went about it, and how you got it to a level that benefited the company. Talk about that skill set and how motivated you are to get there. Resources Gwen Hassan | The International Lawyer | Baker McKenzie
4/24/201934 minutes, 45 seconds
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A Bird’s Eye View of Compliance with Rebecca Hughes Parker

What does a bird’s eye view of the compliance profession look like? Join us on this episode of Great Women in Compliance with Rebecca Hughes Parker, the Global Editor-in-Chief at Anti-Corruption Report and Cybersecurity Law Report, as she talks about the biggest trends in compliance, what it’s like to be a woman in a senior compliance position, and the future of women in the profession. From litigation to publishing Rebecca used to be a litigation lawyer, where you would have a client and a particular set of facts to focus on to advocate for that client. Now that she’s in publishing, she can step back and examine the law and compliance approaches from all angles, see the bigger picture and communicate it to people in a way that is clear, but also complex and sophisticated. Rebecca shares their growth from small beginnings, starting out as the FCPA Report, to launching the Cybersecurity Law Report in 2015. Biggest trends There is an increasing focus on moving away from rules-based compliance to having holistic programs that are really embedding the ethical culture into the company. Rebecca also notes the gap between lawyers and technology specialists, especially as we move into the cybersecurity and data privacy space. There needs to be a bridge so the two can speak the same language. Many trends are also driven by regulations: a big one was GDPR, and the California Consumer Privacy Act is coming into effect next year, both of which have the attention of very many compliance professionals. Handling third parties is also a huge part of compliance, as they are responsible for a huge part of risk breaches. Due diligence and continuous monitoring of third parties are definitely themes that we have to address. Women in senior positions As women, it can be hard to project authority without being called bossy, shrill, or brazen. Rebecca doesn’t feel like she’s alone in having to figure out the best tone to take. And though it’s great that women are thought of as bringing people together and very cooperative, maternal, and nurturing, it can be a little stereotypical and hamper women, making it harder for them to get angry and aggressive and have that be okay. Rebecca had a stay at home husband for many years, and it’s not easy to change people’s views of what mothers and fathers should be doing. There are uneven expectations for each parent, and she shares how her husband would receive accolades for taking care of the children — which is fantastic, but moms do that all the time. So to be a working mom with a stay at home dad involved a lot of societally imposed guilt that she had to push away. Advice to women starting out This is a really great time for compliance: it’s become a profession on its own and it is such a great community. You can make your own stamp on it and innovate: there are so many ways to think out of the box and there’s more room now for non-lawyers. Also, women need to get equal pay. Hopefully, we’ll start rolling back the outdated notions about women and what they can do. She shares the story of her friend who was made to wear heels to court instead of her ballet flats, and she remembers thinking, we’ve come so far… but there really is still such a long way to go. But the more we see women in high places, the more comfortable we get with women in these kinds of positions. So she’s really optimistic. Resources Rebecca Hughes Parker
4/17/201919 minutes, 40 seconds
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Confronting Issues Women Face in the Workplace with Amii Barnard-Bahn

How can you make sure you’re not left behind as a woman in compliance? Join us on this episode with Amii Barnard-Bahn, an executive coach and strategic advisor. Today we’re talking about breaking through the glass ceiling, making sure you’re getting your fair share, and stepping up into leadership. Breaking through the glass ceiling Women need to support each other. In terms of breaking through the glass ceiling, Amii shares a pledge of support she took: Don’t tear each other down. Say yes to helping and connecting each other and not filtering support. Reinforce women’s voices. Help each other get credit. And in addition to women supporting women, it’s really critical for all leaders to be aware of their impact on other people. Leaders succeed or fail based on two things: how well they work with others, and how well they know themselves. Negotiating salaries Know the going market rate for your job in your geography. Amii gets this data from three places: asking other colleagues what they’re making, asking for pay ranges during job interviews, and through consulting salary surveys. These data points are usually good for two to three years and have them in your back pocket during negotiations. Women don’t talk salary, and we need to be more comfortable sharing this. Come to the bargaining table with objective information, and definitely stay polite and professional. You may not get the bump, but it’s always worth a shot. Equitable salaries for different genders Companies can do their part in ensuring that there is no gender-based pay inequity by: participating in and purchasing quality salary survey data, having accurate and updated job descriptions for their jobs, having job families that clearly outline the succession and promotion opportunities within the growth span of the job, and conducting an equity audit and evaluating whether there is a material pay disparity between genders, race, or age. If you’re discriminating, you need to know it and take action. Looking the part Good grooming is important, and that doesn’t necessarily have to include a lot of makeup. Dress appropriately so that whoever you’re speaking to can hear what you have to say and are not distracted by the way you look. This speaks to a broader issue of developing and cultivating an executive presence no matter what level you are at the organization. And don’t forget about your posture, your tone of voice, your eye contact, and most importantly, projecting warmth. Being ready for leadership Amii quotes Jack Welch: “Before you are a leader, success is all about growing yourself. When you become a leader, success is all about growing others.” Managing is easy. Leading is hard. When people get promoted, it’s difficult to let go of the things that made them successful in the first place: being the technical expert and having the right answer. Now the focus is no longer on accomplishing the task yourself, but helping other people around you achieve their tasks. You need to see beyond your subject matter expertise and demonstrate through your actions that you understand the overall business strategy and that you’re always acting in the best interests of the entire organization.  Resources Amii Barnard-Bahn (LinkedIn)
4/10/201929 minutes, 24 seconds
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Life or Death Compliance with Virginia MacSuibhne

In healthcare, compliance isn’t just about following the rules — how do you manage when it’s a matter of life and death? Joining us on this episode is Virginia MacSuibhne, Vice President and Chief Compliance Officer of Roche Molecular Solutions, talking about holding themselves to higher standards, operating on values, and the power of diversity.  Compliance and healthcare Healthcare is a highly regulated industry that essentially boils down to having a comprehensive quality management system. Tests that detect things such as cancer, or HPV, or the Zika Virus need to work and deliver consistent and accurate results.  So there is no need to explain why compliance is important. The whole company gets it. These are test results that people rely on — it could be you, a parent, a sibling, or a grandparent, waiting to ensure that the test result they get is right. So the people working on this hold themselves to a higher standard and are making sure they cross all the t’s and dot all the i’s because it’s important. There’s a patient — a real person — on the other end of it.  Global values Having products that need to be delivered all over the world means having to deal with wildly inconsistent regulations, and that’s where Roche values, leadership commitments, and cultural beliefs come into play. Much of their growth also comes from acquisitions, which means the merging of very different workplace cultures. But at the end of the day, everybody is in the healthcare space, and people understand that it’s about doing the right thing. Diversity of women in compliance  Thirteen out of the fourteen people in Virginia’s team are women, and they have a diverse background of life experiences and skill sets, represent almost every race on the spectrum, speak different languages, married, divorced, single parents, single with no kids, some people with disabilities, and with ages ranging from their 20s to their 60s. Sometimes we think about diversity in pretty narrow terms, but it’s this diversity that brings richness and perspectives into the mix.  Virginia believes that the reason women are more prevalent in the field is because it’s new — there’s no need to start by breaking the glass ceiling, which is empowering.  The future of compliance  Compliance is only becoming more institutionalized. Her advice is to go to the conferences and begin to network. Start thinking about how you can write, speak, present, and share ideas. The best things this community has come up with has come from collaborating with people who share different perspectives and can take our ideas one step further. In terms of looking forward, social media is changing the compliance landscape, and very rapidly! When a case has media coverage, you don’t have three weeks to prepare a press release. You have five minutes, if that. People are asking for opinions minutes after new laws are released. It’s going to affect our data, information, governance, and privacy. Resources Virginia MacSuibhne
4/3/201924 minutes, 17 seconds
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Radiate Confidence and Gravitas with Marianne Ibrahim

How can you assert yourself and rise to the top? Marianne Ibrahim is the Director of Global Compliance for Baker Hughes, a GE company, and on this episode, she talks about building your executive presence, traveling internationally as a woman, and her advice for the next generation of female compliance professionals. Why compliance For Marianne, building a career where one can drive a culture of ethics and integrity is a dream. Compliance has an impact on human rights, and when senior leaders of major corporations truly believe in it, it affects the communities we operate in. A strong executive presence To improve your executive presence and command the room with gravitas, communicate with purpose. Believe in what you do and what you’re saying, look your senior management in the eye, and project your voice. Mind your body language, and don’t be hesitant. A lot of it has to do with how you come across in meetings or day-to-day conversations. Tips for traveling When traveling to a country for the first time, read about the culture. Learn not just the business etiquette, but the etiquette and expectations of different genders. Then when you show up, mean business. Own your space, know your subject matter, and be confident so that you’re taken seriously regardless of your gender. If you’re going to the Middle East, don’t pack a button-down shirt! Be true to your own personal style, but be conservative. Inspiring the next generation of female compliance officers Invest in your younger talent. Reach out to them because they're not going to automatically come to you for advice.  Take them out to lunch, ask them how they’re doing, and talk about where they want to go. Many times, they’ll need your advice or direction. Take that initiative, and then constantly check in so it’s not a one-time thing. Not only is it rewarding, but you’re also investing in the future. Combat the stereotype Are you assertive… or do they call you bossy instead? To combat this stereotype, Marianne makes sure she’s approachable in everything that she does, and lets her team know she has an open door. They’re all in this together, and improving their culture and their compliance environment is a collective goal. The team spirit really counts. What she wishes she’d known earlier as an investigator Be yourself. When she was younger, she thought she had to be aggressive and assertive. But it works out much better for her to operate her own way: taking her time to get to know the individual, ask how they’re doing, and witness how they truly open up. Resources Marianne Ibrahim
3/27/201918 minutes, 41 seconds
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Ethically Growing the Bottom Line with Erica Salmon Byrne

How can being ethical grow a company’s bottom line? Joining us is Erica Salmon Byrne, the Executive Vice President at Ethisphere Institute and the Executive Director Business Ethics Leadership Alliance, as she shares about the Global Ethics Summit, the importance of being proactive when it comes to compliance, and how companies can do well by doing good. Proactive compliance Through the many investigations Erica has been a part of and learning about how or why things went wrong, she learned the value of a proactive and effective ethics and compliance program, not just on the company as a whole, but for the individuals who work for the company. It impacts both finances and team morale. That’s when Erica decided she had enough of a "defensive" compliance approach, and is now helping companies become more predictive and proactive about their compliance programs. Data and analytics There is a sudden proliferation of data that is available to us to figure out what’s actually working. You can find out where people are going for questions, what sort of things they’re looking for, and how to make overwhelming processes engaging, easy, and interesting for employees.  Externally, you can now also see what other companies are doing and how trusted they are by their employees. If you can position yourself as a trusted employer, how much easier would it be to recruit in this tight labor market?  Doing well by doing good At Ethisphere, they call this the Ethics Premium. Ethical companies continue to outperform others, and while Erica doesn’t know what the causation might be 100%, her hypothesis is that it’s a “sauce” of: Engaged employees who are committed to their role at the companyNot having to pay giant fines and fees Using the money saved from not having to pay fines and fees and putting it into R&D, M&A, and organic expansionInvesting in the communities that they’re engaged inWhat’s working well in building programs Internal partnerships: Have very strong working relationships between sister control functions, whether that’s ethics and compliance, internal audit, human resources — these functions have all figured out a way to work together.  Diversifying skill sets: Up until a few years ago, everyone who worked in compliance was a lawyer. Now we have people with data analytic skills, IT skills, audit skills, and even communication skills. Diversify those voices and make sure you have a robust reflection of skill sets on your ethics and compliance team. There’s no competition in compliance At the end of the day, what compliance professionals are all doing is trying to give people the tools that they need to be able to make good decisions on behalf of the company. There’s absolutely no reason why they shouldn’t share their discoveries with colleagues if it makes everybody’s life easier. It lifts our collective boats as organizations, and that’s the attitude this community has. Advice Don’t be afraid of data. Get close to the people who understand it. Ask stupid questions. Data is not going anywhere so you need to figure out how to get comfortable working with it and speaking about it.  Understand that we’re in a dynamic age. Transparency is everything. Figure out how you can tell true stories (in a way that your Labor and Employment lawyers are comfortable with) as  part of your education process. The impact this can have on employees is tremendous: not only will the situations feel real (because they are), but they’re also relevant because they actually happened at your company. Contact Erica  LinkedIn | Twitter
3/13/201923 minutes, 41 seconds
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Springboarding Your Success with a Book with Deena King

Have you ever thought of publishing a book on compliance? Deena King is the author of Compliance in One Page and is currently the Director of Compliance at Texas Woman’s University. Today on the show, she’s discussing her book publishing process and what it’s like working at higher education, as well as sharing her best advice for writing a book and springboarding your success.  On writing about compliance Deena was part of the team that designed the initial Brigham Young University compliance program. When she transferred to NV Energy in Las Vegas, she noticed that doing compliance at a university was similar to doing compliance at a utility and decided to document this pattern. This eventually became her book which she finished in 2015. Challenges in publishing No one really tells you how to write a book — so that was a challenge in itself — and because she was new to the compliance profession, Deena decided to self-publish. She learned tons about the many moving piece publishers take care of, from design to editing and beyond.  Her next challenge is self-publishing the second edition of her book, which she hopes will be out early in 2020.  Advice for aspiring compliance authors If you see something no one is talking about and you feel you can add to the conversation, write about it. Start with articles in magazines to help you get your thoughts together and give you some direction. Then write an outline for your book and go for it! Working at Texas Woman’s University (TWU) Being an educated woman is a big, important value for her. So while TWU in itself is a great university (and the reason she decided to take the job), the cherry on top was that she was going to be working for a university whose primary goal is to educate women. Soft Skills vs Knowledge Knowing how to work with people is an absolute must in compliance, as you will be working with all kinds of people in many different areas. You can’t live without soft skills. But the legal and regulatory foundations are important too, because content matters.  Advice for springboarding yourself to success When Brigham Young University was going to start their first compliance program, Deena knocked on her director’s office door, sat down, and said: “I think I’m really going to like this compliance thing. Can I be on this team? Can I help?”  If you’re willing to help people build something, somebody is bound to say, yes.  Just step forward and be proactive. Learnings from the CIA Deena used to work at the CIA  in a former life. The CIA would always use three — and oftentimes more — lines of defense when it comes to protecting data, and this is something she carries with her until today. She makes sure that when she’s protecting information, there are always multiple layers of defense. Resources Deena King | Compliance in One Page | The Ethics of Higher Education
2/27/201917 minutes, 30 seconds
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The Only Woman in the Room with Stephanie Davis

What is it like to work not only as a woman in compliance, but as a woman in an international company? Stephanie Davis is the Chief Ethics and Compliance Officer for the Volkswagen Group of North America and she’s here to share what it’s like to be the only woman — and sometimes, only American — in the room. Stephanie came to Volkswagen not from a law firm, but from KPMG. How did that impact her career?  An academic background gives a lot of credibility, especially in German companies, as Germany is a country that prides itself on amazing education. In the US, it was the consulting background that was really helpful, because it’s given Stephanie the lens to approach problems more collaboratively. Where legal will say “no, you can’t do that” and end there, she might say, “no you can’t do that — but here’s what we can do instead,” because she understands how businesses are run and knows companies still need to make a profit. Her job is to make sure they do it in the most ethical and integral way. What is it like to be a woman in compliance, and what is it like to be a woman in compliance with a company that has a headquarters in Germany? Stephanie comes to her job bringing a distinctly different perspective: she hasn’t worked at Volkswagen her entire life (like many in the company have), she’s a woman, and she’s American. But she learned that you can’t let “being the only x in the room” be an issue. If you fixate on that, that’s all you’re ever going to be. She had to give herself permission to not focus on the fact that she was the only woman or American there. She was in the room for a reason. She was in the room because she had value. No one else was questioning her presence, and it took time for her not to question it either. In all of her otherness, she has come to realize: “It’s too much stress to be anybody but who I am.” On speaking in the room Stephanie speaks at many conferences and talks for women’s groups so that “one day, we don’t have to do it anymore.” She postulates that women’s conferences and groups grew out of this world of golf games that we saw our fathers participating in growing up, where all the work was done on the golf course. Women weren’t really involved — and so we’ve decided to build our own golf courses. But she hopes we don’t have to do it forever. We all bring something to our organizations. We shouldn’t have to fit a “bucket” of what our careers must look like: partner by 35, x amount of dollars in the bank by 40. We’ve created a world that can be really hard sometimes, and we have to be easier on ourselves. Resources Stephanie Davis (LinkedIn)
2/13/201919 minutes, 29 seconds
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The Millennial Compliance Officer with Samantha Sinclair

What is it like to be a millennial compliance officer? And what is it like to work with one? On the show today, we have Samantha Sinclair. She’s the Compliance Communications & Operations Manager at Fresenius Medical Care Asia-Pacific, and has been shortlisted for the Women in Compliance Awards for Junior Compliance Officer of the Year, and today, she’s here to share with us her insights about millennials, as a millennial. What are your tips for women starting out in the profession? It’s extremely important to be proactive, so always ask questions if you’re not sure, and do as much research as you can into the industry you’re working in and the company you’re working for. Millennials often face the challenges of stereotypes in the office. What are your observations, as someone who’s a part of that group? Many of the stereotypes stem from how you manage your millennial staff, and the thing about stereotypes is that they only prove true when people believe them to be true. For example, in Samantha’s current office, a large proportion of the team are millennials, and they don’t suffer the stigma of being in that category as much as people in other companies. Also, negatives aside, millennials are also known for being tech-savvy and good multi-taskers! What are your tips for working with millennials? In order to let millennials thrive in a company, show them that you value them. Millennials appreciate recognition, being able to use their skill set, and having the freedom to work on projects to the best of their abilities instead of being micromanaged. Be approachable as a manager and allow them to be involved in the decision making processes. How can mentors counsel and advise millennial women in compliance to really add value to their career advancement? First, give directions and clear expectations as to what is expected of millennials without hindering the creativity and positive attributes that make them the way they are. Second, speak to them on an equal level, with mutual respect and value. Finally, highlight their strengths and guide them on how to apply these strengths in everyday work. What does the modern-day junior employee look for in a mentor? A mentor provides positive feedback and guides you down the right path. They look out for you, they see opportunities that you wouldn’t be able to see yourself, and provide real life examples and experiences to teach you how you can add value to the company you’re working for. They should also feel invested in the success of the mentee, possess compassion, and are willing to grow themselves in the profession as well. What’s something you wish you’d known two years ago? Samantha wishes she’d known more about the way compliance affects a company, and wishes she'd spoken out a little bit more and asked for opportunities related to other areas of compliance that she only started to understand later. Samantha Sinclair
1/30/201913 minutes, 32 seconds
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Technology and Compliance with Kimberly Kaminski

Do tech and compliance mix? Kimberly Kaminski is the Vice President and Chief Ethics Officer at BAE Systems Inc., a global aerospace and defense contractor, and she’s here on the show today to talk about coming into compliance with a tech background instead of a legal one, what it’s like to work in defense, and the golden nuggets she’s gained along the way.  From tech to compliance Kimberly started as an electronics technician after receiving her degree. After 3 decades, she had the opportunity to build a compliance program from scratch. Next came the chance to join BAE, and with the great reputation they had, she was excited to come aboard. Being a tech expert gave Kimberly a good framework for understanding an organization and insight into the requirements to help build products for customers. Being a non-lawyer, she was able to bring a different perspective into the mix, including the different nuggets she’d collected from learning the trade and working with people on the floor.  Women in tech and compliance fields The legal team at BAE has over 60% women, and they have a female chief diversity officer. Young women entering the workplace are looking upward to seek role models. This is good, but we can do better.  People are at the heart of BAE’s success, so they focus on attracting and keeping diverse talent, and have programs to help employees stay on the cutting edge. A strong industrial base is not just about facilities and products, it’s about people.  What was your leadership experience like both in this community and in the Twin Cities area in promoting ethics and compliance? Kimberly is part of a few organizations: The Defense Industry Initiative, The Capital Area Business Ethics Network, and the Twin City Compliance and Ethics Network. Sharing best practices is a hallmark of the compliance community. This is an industry that wants to give everyone the best tools to do right and help businesses, regardless of what they do; it’s very easy to reach out to colleagues and ask for help should you have an issue. Balancing family life and career challenges Kimberly’s husband passed away 12 years ago, and family and colleagues were instrumental along the way of raising her four boys, now in their early 20s. You can’t do this alone. Form those relationships, keep them intact, take the different nuggets that you get from people along the way, and then help others along the way.  Final thoughts To any woman considering coming into the compliance field, we welcome you with open arms. It’s the coolest job in the world. One day you could be working with a person on the floor, the next you could be giving a presentation to the board of directors, and the following week you could be in China. It’s a great opportunity, so keep an open mind. Every chance you get, network, network, network! Most importantly, walk through that door and help people along the way. Resources Kimberly Kaminski | Defense Industry Initiative | Capital Area Business Ethics Network
1/16/201917 minutes, 44 seconds
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Focusing on What Matters with Lisa Beth Lentini

Lisa Beth Lentini has worked in the U.S. Federal Government and is currently the Chief Compliance Officer and Co-Chair of the Deluxe Enterprise Risk Council, and one of her greatest passions in life is to help foster greatness in others. On this episode, Lisa talks about focusing on what matters, and why kindness is so important — to others, as well as yourself.  Why is it so important for you to champion other women, including in our industry? There aren’t enough champions for women out there yet, and it's also about being the kind of person you want to be. Being kind and supportive is just as important in professional relationships as it is in personal relationships.  Do you have any ideas on how we can be better at doing this? Carve out a little bit of time for thankfulness and gratitude. Speak up and recognize the greatness that you see in others even when they may not see it in themselves. Or take the time to meet with someone and share what you wish you’d known, or provide connections.  What do you think it means to have it all? It’s not possible to have it all at the same time. Not that Lisa Beth would want to, because having it all would mean never being present and truly dedicated to the things that matter. Instead, it’s about focusing on what matters to you personally. Compliance programs are not one size fits all, and neither is life. How do you balance your multiple roles in life, from motherhood to compliance practitioner? There’s no such thing as work-life balance because you’re constantly deciding what wins and what loses. Instead, integrate your priorities in a way that makes sense in your life.Savor the small moments, especially the things that go right.Find a way to let go of the disappointments and things that go wrong. Give yourself a little dash of grace.Be kind to yourself. If you’re not kind to yourself, you can’t display that kindness to others. How do you alleviate mom guilt? Let go of what everyone else’s perfect looks like. Check your internal messaging, turn off negative thoughts, and say: I am good enough. I am doing amazing things. I am managing in ways that many other people would struggle with.  How did you prioritize selecting volunteer opportunities? If you’re saying yes to everything and giving little pieces of yourself everywhere, you lessen your impact. Lisa Beth had to make some tough choices, but as in gardening, she says, sometimes you have to cut back to grow.  Tell us more about your mindfulness-based approach. Lisa Beth shares some of the practices they have at work where they take the time to recognize each other. It goes so far, and it’s free: it costs nothing to tell someone their work was terrific. It deepens the relationship and allows for a lot of progress in terms of interpersonal interactions within the team and outside the team.  What are your key tactics for keeping all your balls in the air and all your plates spinning? When you can, outsource. (This can be home activities, like a cleaning service.)When you can, delegate.Ask for help, and give help when you can. Help will be there for you if you’re ready to give it as well.Find laughter. There should be laughter in your organization. There should be laughter in your life. Final ThoughtsA recent study published in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences finds that single acts of kindness often start a ripple effect. This can be contagious in the workplace, especially when leaders are involved. ResourcesLisa Beth Lentini (LinkedIn)
1/2/201923 minutes, 53 seconds
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Data Privacy, Security, and Compliance with Michelle Beistle

On this episode of Great Women in Compliance, we have Michelle Beistle, the Counsel and Chief Compliance Officer for Privacy and Ethics at Unisys. Prior to this, she was an Assistant General Counsel specializing in privacy. What was this career trajectory like? Michelle shares her story and discusses how data privacy and security go hand in hand with compliance. From privacy to compliance Michelle started her compliance career in privacy first, a move that’s often the reverse of the usual career trajectories. As privacy counsel and chief privacy officer, she eventually took on the ethics program as well as becoming chief compliance officer. She sees a lot of synergy and complementariness between the two roles. While privacy is about respecting an individual’s right to control their own data, ethics is about respecting the law and ensuring you’re following rules and regulations. From a programmatic point of view there are some overlaps: plenty of training and awareness, providing a place for people to report concerns, conducting investigations into those concerns, and then monitoring those concerns for trends. There is a benefit to having both programs under one umbrella, because at the heart of it, acting with integrity is essential to success. Data privacy vs. data security Data security, and the security of personal data, is an integral component and requirement for a good privacy program. But privacy is not just data security; that’s just one element. Privacy is much more than just protecting data, it’s about giving individuals the ability to control how personal data about them — data that identifies who they are as a person — is used. It’s about respecting that data, and respecting the wishes of the individual as to how their data should be used. What would you say to women who want to build their compliance careers? Michelle received mentorship early in her career, and she observed that successful women took on challenges, even if they weren’t sure they were 100% qualified. When opportunities would arise, they wouldn’t turn away because they only had 50% of the qualifications. If you see a challenge or an opportunity, and you think you could make a difference, speak up. Don't wait for someone to come out and offer it to you. Another piece of advice she received was to always be respectful and kind to everyone. You don’t know who your next boss is going to be, or who’s going to give you your next opportunity. She also mentors young people now and tells them: Nobody is thinking more about your career than you. So make sure you’re thinking about it. Don’t be afraid to ask for advice. Final thoughts Privacy is a fantastic area to take on and grow as an individual in your career; don’t shy away from it. If you realize there’s more that can be done to respect individuals’ personal data at your company, step up, get involved, and explore privacy if you’re not already taking it on. Be the person at your company that can look out and proactively help. Resources Michelle Beistle
12/19/201812 minutes, 11 seconds
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Award-Winning Women with Yvette Lingom

Today we’re speaking with Yvette Lingom, the Associate Director of Programming at C5 Communications, Ltd., a leading global events and business intelligence company. Yvette started with a legal background before moving into compliance and is now doing events. Today, Yvette talks to us about the conferences she puts together, their awards for women in compliance, and some great advice.  What was it like transitioning through the different steps of your career? Would you recommend it to others?  Yvette made from a consulting firm to the consulting industry. It was a natural one, because she was still very close to the legal community but doing things differently. Legan work can be intense, and she recommends this to practicing lawyers or consultants who want to change the way they work. What was the impetus for the Women in Compliance Conference and the associated awards events?  70% of women in compliance roles attend conferences, and fewer than 10% of the 70% were women in senior compliance roles. They decided to celebrate what these women were doing and create an opportunity to showcase these women’s contributions to the compliance industry.  The conference also exists to close women’s knowledge and skills gap so they can level up in their roles. This means addressing the answer of a very important question: What are the potential hindrances that are preventing women from becoming chief compliance officers? How do you decide on the topics and agenda for the conference? It involves a lot of research to understand what is current, what is timely, and what people need. Then it’s a process of sorting these topics into “nice to know” and “need to know.”  The speakers also need to be relevant; it’s so important that they stay on topic that Yvette and the team dictate what they should be speaking about, and not the other way around, so that women benefit greatly from every event. What characteristics or achievements do the judges look for when considering winners for the award?  A really good entry is key. There’s no interview process — the basis is the entry and the entry alone. The judges take a very close look at the project and achievement to understand exactly what happened. It all needs to be clearly explained. They examine the evidence and supporting documents, check how innovative the solution was, how it benefited the company the person is working for — a combination of things that demonstrate the value of the results. What advice would you give anyone writing a nomination hoping it will stand out?  Be clear. Get specific about your descriptions. What exactly is the project? What is the achievement? How measurable is your result? Make sure to add quality evidence to your submission. If you’re nominating somebody else, get help from the nominee. She would be the best and only person in place to clearly demonstrate what went on and what she has achieved. How do you define great women in compliance? A great woman in compliance should be a subject matter expert in her specialty. But at some point, knowledge no longer becomes a differentiator; it becomes a given, so she needs to be influential as well, so she can scale up. She needs to have a great personality: kind, tough, but fair. And lastly, she should be capable of demonstrating solidarity: with women in compliance, with women in general, and with the next generation.  ResourcesYvette LingomC5 Communications LtdGreat Women in Compliance Podcast Community
12/19/201815 minutes, 18 seconds
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Leveling Up in the Compliance Field with Kristy Grant-Hart

Today on the show, we have Kristy Grant-Hart, one of the most well-known women in the industry. She became a Chief Compliance Officer at an early age, is the published author of several books, a board member of a nonprofit organization, and is now an entrepreneur with her own compliance consultancy company with its own publishing arm. She is undoubtedly a great woman in compliance, and she’s here to share with us her best advice for women who are ready to level up in this field. What traits do you attribute to your success? We already have good technical skills, but what sets truly successful practitioners apart is the ability to connect with people. It’s an underrated skill, but an absolutely necessary one. What advice do you have for women hoping to make a name for themselves in compliance? Start writing and speaking, even if you start small. When people see you stand in front of them or read what you have to say, you’re not only serving the profession and the community, but you’re doing so in a way that showcases your skills and abilities. What interested you in joining a board, and what has your experience been like so far? Kristy shares how much she respected and enjoyed her participation in the SPCE that running for board member was a natural next step. It wasn’t smooth sailing though — Kristy didn’t make it the first year she ran. It takes a lot of persistence, staying involved, and really being in front of leadership to position yourself to be accepted as a board member. What advice would you have for women who want to become board members? In some cities, there are organizations dedicated to helping people get on board, so that’s a good place to start. Kristy also shares that it’s true: once you get on one board, it’s much easier to get on others. So try to get on the board for any other organization that you like, because it’s a great way to build others’ confidence in your abilities. You want to show that you know what you’re doing when it comes to being a board member What was the experience like starting your own company? It was a multi-month process for Kristy, which involved a lot of research, networking, and pitching. If you really want to go into consulting or become an entrepreneur, it really is about meeting other entrepreneurs and honing your business skills, because while you probably already have technical skills, business skills are different. What has been your most significant learning moment in your compliance career? It’s a huge shift to go from big law, where people hang on to your every word, to in-house work, where people stop listening and don’t reply to emails. It became necessary for Kristy to figure out how to make herself more important and valuable to their business in a real way. What advice would you have for someone in the market for an in-house job? There needs to be a showing of commitment: get skilled in the other areas you need, get your qualifications and certifications, take classes, and network. You make a much stronger impression that you genuinely want this career, and that you’re in it for the long haul. Last words Only three Fortune 500 Companies have an equal number of male and female board members. If Kristy inspired you today, get up and do something about it. The power is with us to turn these statistics around. Put your hand up, raise your voice, and be heard. Resources for KristyLinkedInWebsiteSpark Compliance Consulting
12/5/201811 minutes, 55 seconds
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The Importance of Having a Sponsor with Ellen Hunt

In this episode of Great Women in Compliance, Lisa Fine speaks with lawyer Ellen Hunt, the Senior Vice President Audit, Ethics and Compliance Officer at AARP. She has had a wealth of experience working with boards of directors and helping to move the industry forward with education programs designed to help leaders make more ethical decisions.  Relationships with Boards of Directors Ellen has often worked with boards of directors, and one of the paramount considerations is having a good relationship with the people on different committees before challenging issues come up. Gender on Boards of Directors Ellen has most often work with organizations with women not only being on boards, but also n management teams. If you are the only woman in the room however, think about how you can pave the way for others to follow you, and how what you bring to the table, like empathy and good listening is an important and valuable perspective.  Mentoring and Sponsorships Mentors and sponsors are different things. A good mentor will share their own path with you, but a sponsor will be your advocate, and they’ll help make things happen for you.  Compliance as a Function – what is changing? Compliance has really established itself as a function. It’s a profession that has a tremendous amount of credibility, but we must continuously disrupt the industry. Trust is a competitive advantage.  If you’re a woman in compliance, or know someone who is, then check out the Women in Compliance Awards! Like the Great Women in Compliance Podcast? If so, we’d love for you to subscribe to the podcast and leave a review! Help us to honor the great women in the compliance field and spread the word about how they’re shaping the industry. The Great Women in Compliance Podcast is part of the Compliance Podcast Network, created by the Compliance Evangelist, Tom Fox. You can get ongoing education credits and more by tuning in to the network. Ellen Hunt LinkedIn
12/5/201811 minutes, 57 seconds
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Introducing the Great Women in Compliance Podcast

Tom Fox, creator of the Compliance Podcast Network, interviews Mary Shirley and Lisa Fine about thier new show, Great Women in Compliance. 
11/27/201816 minutes, 37 seconds