The Grow Zone Podcast show features Mogul Shaunie and husband Keion Henderson. The two media sensations hold no punches. They deliver insight, advice, and general conversation with comedic banter in a highly entertaining way. Available weekly!
Why Keion and Shaunie Think Marriage Makes Sense Today
Keion believes we live in a time when people covet convenience and “are allergic to commitment.” With his wife, Shaunie, he discusses why devoting oneself to marriage is a blessing and not a burden. Shaunie questions whether we’ve moved away from true commitment because we’re more focused on what we can get out of a relationship instead of what we can contribute. Keion dispels the misconception that a wife being “a helper” in a marriage is a sign of weakness, highlighting that it is actually a position of strength. Challenging us to move away from viewing marriage as transactional, the Hendersons stress the significance of mutual growth and understanding within a marital union. In this episode, discover why partnership is about filling in each others’ deficits, what a wife’s role has to do with ranks in the military, and why commitment will never go out of style. Reminding us that “marriage is a joint inside job,” Keion and Shaunie caution against falling for the Hollywood definition of a successful marriage. They encourage us to commit to personal growth while building a mutually beneficial partnership.
10/23/2024 • 37 minutes, 7 seconds
Why Keion Thinks ‘We Need to Talk’ Are the Scariest Words in the World
Despite differing communication styles, Keion and Shaunie are committed to a relationship based on respect and mutual growth. She’s a self-described “winger” who is used to going at it alone. He’s a planner and delegator who usually has a clear vision. In this episode, they get into why men experience anxiety when they hear “We need to talk.” And why when men say “Let’s talk,” they tend to have a goal and solution in mind, while when women say it there’s often a deeper reason for the conversation. Guided by the first of Don Miguel Ruiz's four agreements – "be impeccable with your word" – "the faith guy" and "the culture lady" break down how to avoid having “jaded conversations” and honor your partner with the commitment and promise of healthy communication instead. Tips and advice include how to “solve communication knots,” how to save your man from awkward moments, and how to talk things out when someone utters the dreaded phrase. Ultimately, because “Growth is an inside job,” it takes talking to truly “grow with each other in real time,” as Shaunie reminds us.For further growth, check out: The Four Agreements by Don Miguel Ruiz and The Shift by Pastor Keion Henderson.
10/16/2024 • 40 minutes, 18 seconds
How Keion and Shaunie Are Rewriting “the Rules” for Their Black Family
Growing up, Keion’s mother outlined clear family values: “Always tell the truth,” respectfully address people as “Sir” or “Ma’am,” and reserve judgment (lest you be judged yourself!). Shaunie’s mother taught her to be “ladylike” and “stay out of grown folks’ business,” while her father taught her to be “street smart” and “keep her head on a swivel.” Despite being raised states apart in two different families, the underlying expectation their parents had was the same: ”Don’t embarrass us!” In this episode, Keion and Shaunie deconstruct how the principles from their upbringing shaped them into the people they are today, and why they believe Black families in America are united by some core values. They trace the source back to the damage caused by generational racial trauma. From enslavement to Jim Crow segregation to redlining, pain has been passed down to the point where “African-Americans don’t recognize their own power,” Keion declares. The culture maker and spiritual leader dissect exactly why family values protect Black Americans given that “to be Black in America is to be African with no home and American with no privilege,” as Keion believes. Key insights include why the Hendersons believe Black people often feel the need to “defend the entire race,” how a lack of unity in Black culture has led to a “communal search for identity”, and the surprising force they believe binds Black people together. Taking inventory of where you come from and the forces that drive your decisions requires growth on the inside. While African-Americans may always combat obstacles and cultural misconceptions, Keion and Shaunie believe there’s always an opportunity to create a lasting legacy of triumph and write a new narrative for the extended Black family.
10/9/2024 • 36 minutes, 35 seconds
Why Keion Believes “the Seeds Survive the Blend” in Co-parenting
Shaunie and Keion Henderson know firsthand that co-parenting isn’t an overnight success. From witnessing their parents’ unhealthy co-parenting as children to learning to co-parent as divorced adults, the Hendersons may not be experts but they are experienced. In this episode, they provide suggestions for how to sidestep pitfalls and offer a healthy alternative to blending a family. Shaunie recalls how her mother’s emotions put a strain on her relationship with her half-siblings. And Keion explains what it was like to be the child caught between parents in a blended family. The two talk about why “co-parenting isn’t about you,” how to “protect your child from the pressure to pick a side,” and why it's important as parents to deal with your trauma. Sharing candidly from their own experiences, Shaunie and Keion elaborate on how planting seeds of love requires growth on the inside. “The parents' decisions create the conditions for healthy or unhealthy co-parenting,” Keion says. He asserts that what you bring into a blended family (the seeds) “always survives the blend.”
10/2/2024 • 46 minutes, 23 seconds
Keion and Shaunie Worked Too Hard to Stay the Same
Keion and Shaunie’s commitment to growth means that change is always on the horizon. The word ‘change’ often gets a bad wrap, but the Hendersons believe it’s both an inevitable process and a representation of growth. Keion insists that “Change ain’t change until you’ve changed,” while Shaunie reasons that people should receive credit for embarking on the path to change. In this episode, they describe the necessity of transformation and how embracing new circumstances during critical transitions has helped them upgrade their relationship. They also dig into why compassion is a key ingredient to evolving because “All change starts with having a better relationship with yourself.” Gain valuable insights on how to be patient with a loved ones’ growth journey, when it’s okay to outgrow people, and how to be a perpetual “student of life.” Everyday we’re presented with an opportunity to either settle for “the sea of the same” or welcome the changes meant to unleash the best version of ourselves, so choose wisely. It takes growth on the inside to develop “a mindset of change” and “nine times out of ten, we do ourselves a favor when we grant ourselves the freedom to evolve,” as Shaunie reminds us.
9/25/2024 • 44 minutes, 41 seconds
Shaunie Henderson Is Not Your Typical Church First Lady
Shaunie Henderson breaks the mold of the traditional First Lady of a church. The television star’s transition from basketball wife to pastor’s wife came with many unexpected challenges, including excessive public scrutiny and unrealistic expectations. In this revealing episode, Lighthouse Church’s first couple explore the delicate balancing act Shaunie navigates daily –between assumption and authenticity. They also discuss why they believe some religious norms and expectations are more cultural “pageantry” than Biblical wisdom. As First Lady, Shaunie says she’s more committed to “embodying her role instead of explaining it.” Less concerned with “quoting Bible scriptures” and “being untouchable,” she’s dedicated to “showing more grace and being relatable.” As a highly visible pastor with his own challenges, Keion affirms that Shaunie “should have as much latitude” to express herself in her role as he does. Key episode insights include how authenticity makes you a stronger leader, why your character should always outrank your title, and how transparency sets you apart. For the Hendersons, “growing in your truth” means knowing your lane and being clear on what expectations you allow yourself to be influenced by. After all, as Keion questions, “Who can lead anybody when you lose yourself?”
9/18/2024 • 34 minutes, 37 seconds
Why Shaunie and Keion Have a Marriage Mission
Driven by the belief that “without a vision, the people perish,” Keion and Shaunie Henderson are on a mission to thrive in their marriage. Soon after getting married, Keion –the self-appointed “technocrat”– sat with Shaunie, notebook in hand, to lay out a detailed vision for their union. Despite being a self-professed “winger,” Shaunie recalls how refreshing it was to unite around their purpose, and define the kind of relationship they wanted. A marriage mission may sound like rigid rules, but it’s actually a roadmap to a strong and lasting relationship. As Keion asks, “If you don’t know where you’re going, how will you ever know when you get there?” In this episode, the couple describes 3 relationship frameworks –A-frame, H-frame, and M-frame – and explain why they are committed to building an M-frame relationship. The Hendersons say they nurture their marriage mission by practicing “10-Minute Wednesdays,” a communication exercise that helps them hash out misunderstandings and actively listen to and learn from one another. Listen and learn why the Hendersons’ marriage isn’t 50/50, why Shaunie believes “submission isn’t a bad word,” and why a marriage mission is ever-evolving. Commiting to the vision of a marriage requires much growth on the inside, but Keion reminds us, “if you fail to plan, you plan to fail.” For further growth, read more about Davidson’s relationship frames.
9/11/2024 • 35 minutes, 33 seconds
Life Taught Shaunie, Scripture Taught Keion
As the lead pastor of a mega-church and executive producer of the reality TV series Basketball Wives, Keion and Shaunie couldn’t appear more different. The Indiana native and LA transplant hail from very distinct worlds. So how do they come together to make their marriage work? Delving into what they dub the 3Cs of a healthy relationship –compromise, compassion, and communication– the faith and culture powerhouses unpack how embracing their differences strengthens their interpersonal dynamic. In this episode, they share why there are “levels to grace,” why “knowing when to communicate is a sign of maturity,” how “compromise doesn’t always have to be verbal,” and the reason Keion keeps a notebook full of his thoughts about Shaunie. The Hendersons' commitment to growth on the inside has enabled them to spend less time identifying their differences and more time appreciating them. But their most important lesson has been prioritizing each other’s needs. Growth becomes a joint inside job when each individual puts their partner first, never allowing them to wonder if they will get their needs met. For further growth, check out: The Power of Now by Eckhart Tolle.
9/4/2024 • 46 minutes, 1 second
Introducing The Groow Zone Podcast w/ Shaunie & Keion Henderson
How did a Pastor get with a Reality TV Mogul? Find out on this episode. Keion shows himself on a different level and listen to Shaunie in a new, evolved space in life from Basketball Wives. It’s almost like an introduction as a couple, as a unit. This is the backstory, to the lovestory we all have been waiting for. Who's side is the truth? We'll let you decide!