Two-Sided, the podcast about building an online marketplace business. Two-sided of course, because we’ll discuss Demand & Supply, but also the good side and the bad side, the easy stuff and the hard stuff, and how it looks from the outside versus what is really going on on the inside of an online marketplace. In this series, we sit down with marketplace entrepreneurs, investors and other brilliant minds who work with online marketplaces and two-sided platforms every single day. We will talk about starting, building, growing and scaling, and every stage in between. In each episode, we will do our best to uncover insights and wisdom you won’t find anywhere else. If you are into online marketplace businesses, you will be into this podcast.
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Help us out today! Support Two-sided by supporting Sharetribe on Product Hunt → https://www.producthunt.com/posts/sharetribe-2In this special, one-off, mini-episode of Two-sided, Sjoerd asks for your help and reflects back on the past ten years of building marketplace software at Sharetribe.Sharetribe is launching its best marketplace builder today. With the new Sharetribe you can launch a marketplace in a day, without coding. You can also extend it infinitely with code. And scale to any size.Create an account, give Sharetribe a try, and support us on Product Hunt!Create a Sharetribe account: https://www.sharetribe.comSupport Sharetribe on Product Hunt → https://www.producthunt.com/posts/sharetribe-2Follow Sharetribe onLinkedIn: SharetribeX (Twitter): @sharetribeInstagram: @sharetribeFacebook: @sharetribe
1/30/2024 • 6 minutes, 16 seconds
S2E12 - Season 2 Recap: six essentials insights from this season
In this final episode, Sjoerd looks back at season 2. He highlights the top takeaways that any early-stage marketplace entrepreneur can use, and backs them up with outtakes from the interviews.Besides a recap, you can use this episode as a quick guide to discover the episodes you have yet to listen to or rediscover your favorites.We hope you enjoyed this season! If you have any feedback about the podcast, email sjoerd at [email protected].
12/6/2022 • 28 minutes, 12 seconds
S2E11 - How a comic book community turned into a marketplace - Gene Miguel (Shortboxed)
A community can be a strong foundation for a marketplace. In the early days, it helps with onboarding initial supply and demand and creates trust. Later, it can form a powerful moat that defends the marketplace from competitors.But building a community takes time and work and, most importantly, engaging in it yourself.In this episode, Sjoerd interviews Gene Miguel, CEO and co-founder of Shortboxed, a marketplace for buying and selling comic books.Gene and his co-founder have been lifelong comic book nerds. They both had day jobs in tech, but dealt comic books on the side and spent their days off at comic book conventions. They also started a comic book blog, around which slowly a community started to form.As dealers, they experienced first-hand how poorly and inefficiently the entire comic book secondary market was run. That’s when they decided to build Shortboxed.In this season’s final Two-Sided interview, Gene shares:
How starting a blog helped them build the community
How building in public with the community helped them onboard the first supply and demand
What a double-bind marketplace is, and why Shortboxed uses that model
How they faked many features by running them manually before automating them
A compelling story of a marketplace where passion is combined with a solid business case.
11/22/2022 • 49 minutes, 48 seconds
S2E10 - Growing a marketplace through perseverance - Trisha Bantigue (Queenly)
Sometimes, the story of the founder can be just as interesting as the story of the marketplace.In the case of Trisha Bantigue, this is certainly the case. Trisha was born in the Philippines, raised by her grandparents, immigrated to the US at age 10, and paid her way through college by competing in pageants. Today, she is the CEO and co-founder of Queenly, a marketplace for formal dresses. Queenly is backed by prestigious investors such as YCombinator and Andreessen Horowitz.Though Two-sided does not focus on founder stories, Trisha's journey is pivotal in the story of Queenly. The idea behind the platform comes from Trisha's own pageant experience. And marketplaces in their early stages need non-scalable tactics; in other words, perseverance. Trisha had that in plenty.In the latest episode of Two-sided, Trisha tells Sjoerd how Queenly got to where it is now:
Launching the app and getting absolutely no traction for months.
The difficulty of estimating your own worth as a first-time founder.
The challenge of talking to investors in a way that makes them understand your vision and punctures their preconceptions.
How to deal with incredible setbacks, and turn them around for the better.
Overall, a truly inspiring story for all of the marketplace founders listening
11/8/2022 • 44 minutes, 58 seconds
S2E09 - How Drive lah balances speed vs. quality - Gaurav Singhal (Drive lah)
First-time marketplace founders often struggle to balance speed to market and marketplace quality. On the one hand, launching an MVP as fast as possible is often the best strategy.On the other hand, high quality and trustworthiness are essential, especially for peer-to-peer marketplaces.Despite being first-time founders, Gaurav Singhal and Dirk-Jan ter Horst cracked this trade-off from the get-go. When they launched their peer-to-peer car rental platform in Singapore, their sole focus was to get to the market fast. Yet they had a clear vision for Drive lah’s customer experience from day one.In the latest episode of Two-Sided, Gaurav shares his lessons on:
Transitioning from a corporate job to entrepreneurship: both founders were working at the same corporation, where they conceived the idea over lunch.
Testing potential features with manual work before building them – and spending lots of time with customers in the process.
Launching fast with Sharetribe Flex without compromising on their customer experience vision.
Working with regulatory limits: before Drive lah, it was illegal in Singapore for private individuals to rent out their car.
Putting trust front and center: having raised their seed round one month before Covid, Drive lah was able to turn a potential disaster into a tailwind.
Expanding Drive lah to Australia as Drive mate.
And much more.
An enlightening episode, with something for everyone building a marketplace.
10/25/2022 • 45 minutes, 26 seconds
S2E08 - How Curtsy drove $25M annual GMV with a team of 6 - David Oates (Curtsy)
Marketplaces have conquered some industries earlier and faster than others. Besides home-sharing and ride-haling, one such industry is fashion. The European second-hand clothing giant Vinted was founded in 2008. The US-based Poshmark started in 2011 and is now a listed company.One might think there are no opportunities left for new marketplaces in these pioneer industries. One would be wrong. In this episode of Two-Sided, Sjoerd talks to David Oates, CEO and co-founder of Curtsy. Curtsy is thriving in one of the most crowded spaces for marketplaces: reselling apparel.On the podcast, David shares the most important lessons they learned since Curtsy was founded in 2015:
Be efficient: Curtsy reached $25M in GMV with a team of six.
Start with one niche: Curtsy started as a peer-to-peer dress rental platform for sorority students in Southern universities in the United States.
Don’t force your business model on your market: it took Curtsy some time to find out people wanted to sell rather than rent out their pre-loved clothing.
Have big bets on your roadmap: David finds it important that Curtsy doesn’t only focus on incremental improvements.
Get the best advice available: Curtsy was part of Y Combinator, which is generally considered one of the best startup accelerators in the world.
A very entertaining episode, showing that even crowded spaces have room for new entrants with an innovative approach.
10/11/2022 • 46 minutes, 57 seconds
S2E07 - Why you shouldn’t underestimate the power of sales for your marketplace - Jason Bergman (MarketPryce)
Jason Bergman thinks most marketplace founders underestimate the power of sales.Jason is a big sports fan and has always loved working in sales. Before founding MarketPryce, he ran his own sports agency where he tried acquiring customers by sending Instagram messages to almost three thousand professional athletes.The success rate of the Instagram tactic was pretty terrible. But the experience paid off big time when Jason co-founded MarketPryce, a platform for athletes to find marketing deals. MarketPryce has matched thousands of brands and athletes together. For finding both sides, effective direct sales has been a core strategy.In the latest episode of Two-Sided, Sjoerd talks with Jason about:
How most marketplace founders still underestimate the power of direct sales
How a change in regulation grew MarketPryce’s market one hundred times overnight
How MarketPryce modeled its user experience after Tinder.
A fun episode, giving a glimpse inside a relatively early-stage marketplace growing very rapidly.
9/27/2022 • 47 minutes, 18 seconds
S2E06 - Having fun building your business is a competitive advantage - Andrew Gazdecki (MicroAcquire)
Andrew Gazdecki loves building businesses. He was the weird kid in high school with an eBay store. He built and sold a job board in college. He used the proceeds to start another company, still in college, which he sold before he turned 30. Andrew’s latest venture is MicroAcquire, a marketplace for buying and selling online businesses. The platform boasts a community of more than 150,000 entrepreneurs and raised $6.3m in funding last year.In the latest episode of Two-Sided, Andrew talks to Sjoerd about:
How his entrepreneurial journey influenced his approach to building MicroAcquire
Making non-obvious bets
The importance of loving what you do
And much more.
A really inspiring episode, giving a serial entrepreneur’s perspective on building a marketplace business.
9/13/2022 • 40 minutes, 37 seconds
S2E05 - How a passion turned into a marketplace - Dirk Fehse (PaulCamper)
I'm talking to Dirk Fehse, founder and CEO of PaulCamper, Europe's leading marketplace for RV rentals.Many of us have probably daydreamed about spending a few weeks on the road in an RV. Just get in the van, and park it wherever you want, and that's your home for the night. Dirk loved this too, and so much that he founded a company around it. It's a wonderful story, driven by passion, and started out really lean, as you will hear.We talk about:
How PaulCamper got started
How Dirk built it piece by piece
How they keep quality under control
The quite remarkable way how they use insurance as an anti-disintermediation tool
And how much work Dirk needed to do to get this insurance product into existence.
7/26/2022 • 33 minutes, 43 seconds
S2E04 - How to start a marketplace in an industry you know nothing about - Emmanuel Nataf (Reedsy)
In business school, Emmanuel Nataf and his friends were bored. They were more interested in startups and tech than studying, and so they decided to start a company: a marketplace around services for self-publishing books. Had any of them ever published a book? No! Did that prevent them from becoming successful? Also, no!We talk a bit about that journey, how they found content & SEO to be their best channel, and how they doubled down on that. We also discuss how Reedsy built a community to support the business and some interesting thoughts about financing your startup.
7/12/2022 • 35 minutes, 2 seconds
S2E03 - Focus on a problem that you have experienced yourself - James Younger (TempStars)
Knowing is half the battle, said the wise man G.I. Joe at the end of each episode. This rings doubly true for James Younger of TempStars, a marketplace for temporary dental hygienists and assistants. Not only is James working on a problem that he knows really well, but he also made a point of getting to know as much as he could about design, web development, and digital marketing after the first version of Tempstars turned out disastrous. We speak about that, and about how Tempstars got started, how they built a special algorithm to maintain quality, and how they plan to scale the whole of North America.
6/28/2022 • 36 minutes, 45 seconds
S2E02 - Transforming from a network to a marketplace - James McAulay (Encore)
For this episode, I spoke to James McAulay, CEO & co-founder of Encore, a marketplace for booking musicians. We speak about how James combined his love for music and computer science into Encore. How they got started initially as a “LinkedIn for musicians”, then moved to a “managed reverse marketplace” model to ultimately transform into the online marketplace it is today. Many great stories and lessons to be learned from here.
6/14/2022 • 39 minutes, 16 seconds
S2E01 - Lessons from two decades in two-sided platforms - Casey Winters (Eventbrite)
We kick off the season with a deep-dive by Casey Winters, one of the most knowledgable and experienced two-sided platform people out there. Casey started at Apartments.com, helped Grubhub to IPO-ready, grew Pinterest to an enormous scale, and is now Chief Product Officer at Eventbrite. In between, he has advised a gazillion marketplace startups: Hipcamp, Faire, Airbnb, Uber, GoFundMe... It’s almost more difficult to name one that he hasn’t advised.
5/31/2022 • 37 minutes, 50 seconds
Two-Sided Season 2 - Trailer
It is coming. Finally. Two-Sided Season 2. I know many of you have been waiting a long time. A big thanks to everyone who has reached out me since the first season, and let me or Sharetribe know how much they liked it. It has been a big motivator for us to continue. It’s later than expected, but good things come to those who wait.And boy, are good things coming! I have already recorded some really terrific interviews and a few more in the pipeline, and I found myself learning a whole lot again, about network effects, prototyping, insurance as a service layer, low-frequency marketplaces, and many many more things. We’re going to take it a bit slower this time and we aim to release one episode every two weeks. If you want to be notified automatically, subscribe on Spotify, Apple Podcasts or whatever is the platform of your choice. Also reviews are still very much welcome, hit the 5 stars if you like it, and hopeful that will help us reach more people.That is all for now, you will hear from me and some brilliant marketplace minds soon!