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The Anti-MLM Podcast

English, Documentary, 1 season, 28 episodes, 1 day, 5 hours, 38 minutes
About
Multi level marketing companies are predatory and up to no good. Emma Rose & Francine Brown’s friendship has weathered the test of MLMs and they’re here to spread the antiMLM message and be your friends for free. Tune in to hear behind the scenes stories, deep dives into popular MLM companies, and more about the voices behind the #antiMLM movement. Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/antimlmpod/support
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Our Healy Journey

Emma is joined by Naomi of Sleepy House Healing to see if we vibe with the frequency of the medical device MLM Healy.  Find the pod on social @antimlmpod Find Naomi on social https://linktr.ee/sleepyhousehealing --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/antimlmpod/support
2/9/20231 hour, 22 minutes, 51 seconds
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The Stella & Dot of it All

Emma discusses Stella & Dot.  Town and Country magazine article: https://www.townandcountrymag.com/society/politics/a25461276/ruth-bader-ginsburg-new-collar-necklace-sent-by-a-fan/ --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/antimlmpod/support
1/19/20238 minutes, 19 seconds
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Reboot: Emma ala carte

Emma is back to chat multi-level marketing! Join us for an update and then keep coming back for more. --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/antimlmpod/support
1/12/20239 minutes, 10 seconds
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Optavia Taste Test

This episode is so exciting! Emma and Francine record together in the same room for the first time and taste test the Optavia bullshit that was sold to Francine's grandpa. Hope your earballs enjoy listening to us eat! Just a head's up there is a lot of crinkling/opening packaging noises. --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/antimlmpod/support
6/7/202244 minutes, 41 seconds
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Proof of Life & Listener Emails

Emma and Francine discuss some MLM life updates and then read listener emails. --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/antimlmpod/support
5/22/202246 minutes, 2 seconds
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Life After Lularoe

Catch up with Emma and Francine as they discuss what they’ve been up to, the latest Lularoe documentaries, and spend some time reminiscing about their Lularoe adventures. --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/antimlmpod/support
12/14/202142 minutes, 36 seconds
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Chat with Jane Marie: The Rise & Fall of Lularoe

Enjoy this special episode where Emma and Jane Marie chat about the newest Lularoe documentary and all things MLM. Catch The Rise & Fall of Lularoe on Discovery+ starting December 13th! --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/antimlmpod/support
12/11/202138 minutes, 33 seconds
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Bilzerian Juice

In this episode, Emma discusses an update on Dan Bilzerian's Ignite company since we last mentioned it on the show. Then Francine tells us the story of her new MLM friend that she met in Florida and reveals what company samples she was gifted. To wrap up, Francine shares an embarrassing Lularoe story from when she shopped with Emma. Follow us on Twitter & Instagram @antimlmpod Be a patron: https://www.patreon.com/antimlmpod Producer: Cullen Page References Forbes Article: https://www.forbes.com/sites/chrisroberts/2020/07/07/dan-bilzerians-company-lost-50-million-last-year-will-likely-fail-auditor/?sh=574820c85d74 --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/antimlmpod/support
3/6/20211 hour, 7 minutes, 30 seconds
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We Still Got It

Emma and Francine are back with a new episode! Hooray! In this episode, we catch up on life in general and what MLMs have been hovering around in the periphery of our lives.  Producer: Cullen Page --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/antimlmpod/support
2/16/202155 minutes, 33 seconds
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Essential Oil Palooza

Look, this episode is like a weird type of sandwich, there’s some pretty wild stuff at the beginning and end but if you can stick it out we hope you enjoy it all for what it is. Emma and Francine had the absolute pleasure of speaking with Katy from the Hello Body! Podcast and she shares her journey with Young Living Oils. We talk about everything from anti-diet culture to the Netflix series (Un)Well episode that features essential oils. At the end of the episode we read an e-mail submission from listener Gretchen about her experience as an aromatherapist in a small town and how essential oil MLMs have impacted her business. You can find Katy at https://www.worthitwithkaty.com/ Also, Patreon is now officially a thing that we have so if you want to listen to exclusive content, check out www.patreon.com/antimlmpod At the end of the episode we mentioned our Twitters and then never ever came back around to talking about those so, if you’re curious about what’s going on over there you can find Emma @blackpansyx and Francine @fancyfrancy0 --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/antimlmpod/support
9/9/20201 hour, 49 minutes, 26 seconds
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Uhhhhh Optavia

Hello!! This is a new episode of all the same things, but this time we are talking about life through the lens of multi-level marketing company Optavia. Emma and Francine make sure to take long meandering talks through tangents like fake friendships, fast food, and philosophy. Optavia resources: http://optaviamedia.com/pdf/LEARN/OPTAVIA_LRN-IDS.pdf https://optaviamedia.com/pdf/compensation-plan.pdf --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/antimlmpod/support
8/11/20201 hour, 53 minutes, 4 seconds
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Leaning In

Emma & Francine catch up to talk about life and get back on the proverbial podcast bike. --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/antimlmpod/support
7/20/20201 hour, 17 minutes, 16 seconds
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No Purchase Required*

We are doubling your anti-MLM pleasure today, for double the fun. Francine covers the story of Neora, formerly Nerium, and why they are being sued by the Federal Trade Commission. Then Emma shares the history of MLMs as outlined by a research paper analysis. Your hosts wrap up by chatting about happy things that have happened, and also ringworm. --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/antimlmpod/support
5/15/20201 hour, 29 minutes, 38 seconds
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Re: The FTC Letters

In this episode, Emma and Francine discuss what the Federal Trade Commision is and why they recently sent letters to many multi-level marketing companies. Emma realizes she forgot about an MLM that she joined while in Lularoe and Francine discovers there is a water MLM. Dishonorable mentions include quotes from the FTC letters involving health and wealth claims. They wrap up with some chat about how MLM involvement can hurt your chances of joining the workforce after you’ve left and give some tips on how to manage this issue. Find us on Instagram and Twitter @antimlmpod or email us at [email protected] FTC Press Release: https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/press-releases/2020/04/ftc-sends-warning-letters-multi-level-marketers-regarding-health NYT Article: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/25/us/ftc-mlm-coronavirus-claims.html Consumer Tips from the FTC: https://www.consumer.ftc.gov Arbonne Response: https://www.arbonne.com/discover/legal/news.shtml l --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/antimlmpod/support
5/5/202050 minutes, 32 seconds
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Deep Dive: Lularoe, Part 1

Lularoe has announced their new compensation plan with flashy bonuses, and something called the Legacy Program which they liken to a retirement plan. Yup, during a global pandemic this multi level marketing giant is telling their retailers to focus heavily on team building to amass the greatest Boss Babe Pyramid the world has ever seen. Emma and Francine break down what this all means and exactly how it was presented to the retailers. But first, they chat about clapbacks from Inteletravel agents and a new MLM called Ignite. Intro ends at 17:45 if you like to skip ahead. Legacy Program: https://llr-marketing.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/Documents/LEGACY+PROGRAM_2020_Rev.040720.02.pdf Compensation Plan: https://llr-marketing.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/Documents/Rev.033120.08+LEADERSHIP+COMPENSATION+PLAN.pdf --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/antimlmpod/support
4/18/20201 hour, 48 minutes, 47 seconds
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Deep Dive BOGO: Inteletravel and PlanNet Marketing

Huge shoutout to @inteletravelcon on Twitter for sending over some of their research on these terribly fascinating multi level marketing companies. If you don’t want to listen to the intro chit chat (but you do, we introduce a new segment called Dishonorable Mentions), start at 9:50. That’s where we get into the murky waters that you could be vacationing in if you sign up with PlanNet Marketing. It’s business as usual amidst a global pandemic at this travel MLM/definitely a pyramid scheme. Emma and Francine close up the episode with some chit chat about what’s to come and the Lularoe Cares initiative. Also, there’s cat stuff. YTB/California lawsuit: ht tps://www.oag.ca.gov/news/press-releases/brown-ends-ytbs-online-travel-pyramid-scheme PlanNet Compensation Plan: https://www.plannetmarketing.com/en-us/Your-Business/Compensation-Plan Card Mill explanation: https://www.travelresearchonline.com/cardmills/3.html 2019 Income Disclosure: https://www.plannetmarketing.com/en-us/Income-Disclosure Herbalife Marijuana Smuggling: https://behindmlm.com/companies/herbalife/260575-worth-of-weed-found-in-herbalife-meal-shake-tins/ Carl Deikler rant: https://www.instagram.com/tv/B-uR25hHuJI/?igshid=1t12lwxui74q0 CNBC on MLMs & Coronavirus: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cnbc.com/amp/2020/04/04/mlm-sellers-asking-for-donations-for-health-workers-marketing-ploy.html --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/antimlmpod/support
4/10/20201 hour, 25 minutes, 22 seconds
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Interview: Anne, Rodan + Fields

Huge shout out to Anne for joining us today and sharing her story. She brings her unique expertise to the table and sheds light on her experience with the multi level marketing company Rodan + Fields. Don’t forget to send your stories to [email protected] or slide into our DMs on IG or Twitter! --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/antimlmpod/support
4/6/20201 hour, 33 minutes, 15 seconds
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Deep Dive: Beachbody, Part 1

Francine did some research on Beachbody and found out they are not a pyramid, because they have two legs??? So gather round all you super star diamond princesses and princes and let’s get to chatting about this week’s multi level marketing company. Income Disclosure: https://images.beachbody.com/coach-office/downloads/statement_of_independent_coach_earnings.pdf Part Two: https://images.beachbody.com/coach-office/downloads/income_statement_disclaimer.pdf Ranking: https://faq.beachbody.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/1512/~/rank%3A-start-here Inside Shakeology: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/episode-6-why-shakeology-is-worth-the-price/id1037181669?i=1000362623226 --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/antimlmpod/support
4/3/20201 hour, 10 minutes, 36 seconds
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Interview: Jessica, Beachbody

Emma and Francine have their first interview! These boss babes are making big moves! Jessica from the I Totally Paused podcast joins us to talk about her time with Beachbody. Don’t forget to rate and review if you’re loving the show. --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/antimlmpod/support
3/30/20201 hour, 9 minutes, 34 seconds
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Momma, Please Don’t Join An MLM

This episode, Francine and Emma have a lot to catch up on. It’s been an eventful week and we get into some serious topics about current events and how multi-level marketing companies are laying it on thick in the midst of a global crisis. The jumping off point for our main conversation is a predatory Instagram post from a Beachbody Hun. The heavy talk touches on mom guilt, copywriting, abuse (see trigger warning in time stamps,) and postpartum depression. We start and end the episode on some lighter notes that include cheesecake and Beanie Babies. Time Stamps: Intro/news/chit chat ends at 14:50 Trigger warning: abuse, domestic abuse at 42:50 to 44:35 Instagram reaction/MLM talk ends at 1:11:30 The end is another story I forgot to tell about my week, and probably more information than you want to know about beanie babies and spreadsheets. We hope you want to listen all the way through, but if you aren’t interested in these titillating subjects, we understand and will still be your friends. Resources for moms: https://www.samhsa.gov/find-help/national-helpline https://www.womenshealth.gov/mental-health/mental-health-conditions/postpartum-depression https://parentingfromtheheartblog.com/lonely-mom/ Therapy and counseling resources: https://www.betterhelp.com/advice/counseling/is-free-counseling-right-for-you-where-to-get-therapy-online/ https://www.noom.com/#/ https://www.youper.ai --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/antimlmpod/support
3/28/20201 hour, 21 minutes, 51 seconds
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Deep Dive: Arbonne, Part 1

Oh, Arbonne. This business model is whack and the expensive products are not anything special. Let’s see what Emma & Francine have to say about making women millionaires and find out if fizzy water will change your life. Anchor, if you’re reading this, please fix the audio issues because those are whack too. (Audio quality is near and dear to our hearts so we hope to be able to kick that up a notch in the future.) Links Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arbonne_International Income Disclosure 2018: https://embed.widencdn.net/pdf/view/arbonne/bnavepu80y/9035R18_US_ICCS_Fly_final-1.pdf?u=seno6f Success Plan: https://embed.widencdn.net/pdf/plus/arbonne/2t6eleklxc/9557R11_US_SuccessPlan_Man_final.pdf --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/antimlmpod/support
3/23/20201 hour, 11 minutes, 47 seconds
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Den of Anxiety: Emma’s Lularoe Story

Oh shit, grab your favorite saucer because there’s enough tea to go around for everyone. This week we scratch the surface of Emma’s experience with the multi level marketing company Lularoe. From the massive network of Facebook groups, to gambling problems, and everything in between - Francine isn’t afraid to ask the questions that have been burning in her brain as Emma burned her life to the ground. Don’t forget if you want to support the show and our ability to bring you more content, there is a link below (but we will still be your friends even if you don’t/can’t/won’t/whatever we don’t care, we love you.) --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/antimlmpod/support
3/19/20201 hour, 53 minutes, 17 seconds
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Deep Dive: Mary Kay, Part 1

Francine and Emma catch up about COVID 19 and the MLM world. Then Francine plots her ultimate revenge against nemesis Mary Kay in this deep dive episode featuring pink Caddys and red jackets. Grab your popcorn or cozy up with your glass of scotch and stay until the end where we spill our personal experiences with MK. Pink Truth with link to Advance brochure: http://www.pinktruth.com/mary-kay-facts/the-mary-kay-pyramid/ Natalia Taylor YT video about MK: https://youtu.be/bVfzDmMTydg --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/antimlmpod/support
3/14/20201 hour, 30 minutes, 23 seconds
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Make Social Media Great Again

Emma & Francine talk about some podcast announcements, recent MLM news and then get into the nitty gritty behind shilling shit on social media. MLM Master List- https://mlmtruth.org/master-list/ Mary Kay Announcement: https://www.marykay.com.au Jonathan Mann: https://www.jonathanmann.net --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/antimlmpod/support
3/9/202053 minutes, 21 seconds
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Just drink it, Francine!

Let’s welcome our new cohost, Francine Brown! Emma and Francine have a friendship that survived an MLM. Things get messy, and they’re here to tell you all about it. This episode covers the arc that MLMs played in their friendship and what their goals are for the podcast. Thanks for listening to the show, if you enjoy it, tell a friend & leave us 5 stars so we can get the AntiMLM message out there. --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/antimlmpod/support
3/5/202053 minutes, 5 seconds
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Deep Dive: Rodan + Fields, Part 1

Deep Dive episodes take a look into the history and practices of popular MLM companies. This week we take a look at the history & financial disclosures from skincare giant Rodan + Fields. Revenue: bit.ly/RFrevenue Terra Cycle: bit.ly/2TlUpFS Income Disclosure: bit.ly/2T13lBB Proactiv Wikipedia: bit.ly/32skZ4s Celebrity Net Worth: bit.ly/37YUhBH --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/antimlmpod/support
2/27/202037 minutes, 26 seconds
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Drunk on the Kool Aid

In this episode, Emma gives a brief history of her time as a hun and then goes over what to expect from the show & how you can help. Don’t forget to stay until the end for a horrific review from a former Rodan + Fields employee. Glassdoor Reviews: https://www.glassdoor.com/Reviews/Rodan-Fields-Reviews-E327628_P3.htm --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/antimlmpod/support
2/18/202014 minutes, 25 seconds
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The Anti-MLM Podcast (Trailer)

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2/18/202039 seconds