Host Sarah Isgur is joined by Steve Hayes, Jonah Goldberg, and David French for a weekly thoughtful discussion on politics, policy, and culture.
Voting as a Marital Crisis | Roundtable
Sarah Isgur, Jonah Goldberg, and Steve dive into the latest geopolitical tensions involving Russia, Ukraine, and Israel before turning to Liz Cheney’s influence on Kamala Harris’ political strategy and its implications for conservatives.
The Agenda:
—North Korea and Russia
—Israel update
—What if Ukraine loses?
—What a Harris administration could look like
—Conservative vs. Republican
—Liz Cheney
—Abortion
—Spousal voting
—Halloween
Show Notes:
—The Dispatch Summit
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10/25/2024 • 57 minutes, 6 seconds
Voting Against Trump | Interview: David Frum
Notorious RINO and Atlantic writer David Frum joins Jamie Weinstein to explain why he’s voting for Kamala Harris this election. Frum, a former speechwriter for President George W. Bush and a longtime critic of Donald Trump, believes that the current Republican Party no longer reflects conservative principles and has been overtaken by populism.
The Agenda:
—Frum’s history with conservatism
—Donald Trump as a “unique danger”
—Frum’s personal connection to the Gaza hostages
—Assessing Kamala Harris’ and Donald Trump’s foreign relation strategy
—Is J.D. Vance dangerous?
—Is Frum still a border hawk?
—Canada’s new leaders are emerging after housing crisis
—What to make of campus protests over Gaza
Show Notes:
—Frum for The Atlantic: Women Can Be Autocrats, Too
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10/21/2024 • 59 minutes, 42 seconds
Kamala vs. The Media | Roundtable
Sarah, Jonah, and Declan are joined by Megan McArdle, a columnist for The Washington Post, to discuss Kamala Harris’ recent media blitz culminating in her interview with Fox News’ Bret Baier. They also dive into the latest vibe shift and close with a conversation about the purpose of “steelmanning.”
The Agenda:
—Kamala Harris’ media blitz
—Is Harris prepared for tough questions?
—Avoidance of Biden slander
—Sexism or partisanship?
—Analysis of the evolving polls
—Trump and male voters
—Trump’s exaggeration
—Mommy Party vs. Daddy Party
—What is steelmanning?
Show Notes:
—Harris’ Fox News interview
—J.D. Vance discussing Venezuela on ABC News
—Noah Smith's post on steelmanning
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10/18/2024 • 1 hour, 14 minutes, 3 seconds
What The People of Gaza Actually Think | Interview: Ahmed Fouad Alkhatib
Palestinian-American activist and resident senior fellow at The Atlantic Council Ahmed Fouad Alkhatib joins Adaam to discuss growing up in the Gaza Strip, the challenge of polling public opinion in Gaza, the future of Palestinian self-governance, whether there is a meaningful contingent in support seeking peace with Israel.
The Agenda:
—The story of Gaza
—Hamas vs. Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO)
—October 7
—Breaking down support for Hamas in Gaza
—Palestinian sovereignty and UNRWA
—Do Palestinians want peace?
—The radicalism of the moderate voice
Show Notes:
—Ahmed’s piece for The Dispatch
—Adaam and Jonah talk on Oct. 7, 2023
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10/16/2024 • 1 hour, 19 minutes, 41 seconds
The Deciders | Interview: Tevi Troy
Tevi Troy, author of The Power and the Money, joins Jamie to discuss the clash and collusion of business and politics.
The Agenda:
—When the CEO met the preisdent
—Barack Obama and Elon Musk
—Selective enforcement of policies
—Risk of political bets
—Are Republicans anti-business?
—Strategies for a better country
—Overworking FEMA
Show Notes:
—The Power and the Money: The Epic Clashes Between Commanders in Chief and Titans of Industry
—Ye Olde Deep State
—Shall We Wake the President?
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10/14/2024 • 35 minutes, 35 seconds
The Politics of Disaster | Roundtable
Sarah, Kevin, and Steve discuss the devastation of recent hurricanes and the politics of the disaster response. Also, with several interviewers fawning over Kamala Harris, journalists coming under fire for committing journalism, and newsrooms collapsing into emotional struggle sessions, they ask: Is CBS News worth their time?
The Agenda
—Political polarization
—Reliability in voting trends
—Hurricane politics
—FEMA conspiracies
—Blame in crisis management (Bush v. Biden)
—CBS producers shield Ta-Nehisi Coates and Kamala Harris from journalism
—The ethics of editing journalism
Show Notes:
—The effect of conspiracies
—The CBS News interview before the struggle sessions
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Editorial director and executive producer: Adaam James Levin-Areddy
Associate producers: Victoria Holmes and Noah Hickey
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10/11/2024 • 1 hour, 5 minutes, 16 seconds
A Year Since Oct 7: The Future of the War (pt. 2) | Interview: Dan Senor
Jamie Weinstein is joined by Dan Senor—author of The Genius of Israel and host of the Call Me Back podcast—to discuss the future of governance in Gaza, what the death of Hezbollah leadership means for Israel and Iran, and why he remains optimistic for Israel’s future.
The Agenda:
—Dan on the day of October 7
—The state of Israel’s economy
—Israel’s evolving military strategy
—Israeli startups
—Success against Hezbollah
—Iran’s nuclear program
—The role of the U.S. and the Biden administration
—Trust in Israeli leadership
—The remaining hostages
—Gaza’s future
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10/7/2024 • 1 hour, 16 minutes, 29 seconds
A Year Since Oct 7: Israel After the Massacre (Part 1) | Roundtable
Jonah, Adaam, and Charlotte join Jamie for the first half of a two-part series commemorating the horrific October 7 attacks on the Israeli people. Charlotte provides a first-hand account from her reporting in Israel over the past year; Adaam, a native Israeli, offers insight into the psychological ramifications of the event; and Jonah explains what this moment means for American Jews and the resurgence of antisemitism in politics.
The Agenda:
—Charlotte's reporting in TMD about October 7
—Reflections from a year ago
—Psychological ramifications
—What is Benjamin Netanyahu’s role now?
—Media reactions and public perception
—Life in Israel currently
Show Notes:
—Jonah and Adaam's October 8 podcast following the attacks
—Bill Buckley's In Search of Anti-Semitism
—Dispatch Faith remembering October 7
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10/7/2024 • 50 minutes, 53 seconds
The Experts That Failed Us | Roundtable
Sarah and Jonah welcome Mike Pesca, the host of The Gist, to dive into the nuances of the recent vice-presidential debate. They explore J.D. Vance’s approach of creating a likable persona in an attempt to woo voters, and discuss how, at times, the guidance of field experts has led public opinion astray. They also contemplate the potential future of the Supreme Court, examining the implications of current political dynamics and how they might shape future judicial decisions.
The Agenda:
—Jonah's G-File on the race to being likable
—Should we continue listening to experts?
—TMD: Israeli Leaders Mull a Retaliatory Attack on Iran
—Advisory Opinions episode: Supreme Court litigations
—Supreme Court legitimacy
Show notes
—Mr. Nice Guy Maneuver
—Israel Ponders A “Winnable War”
—The Genius of Israel
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10/4/2024 • 1 hour, 9 minutes, 28 seconds
The Highest Calling | Interview: David Rubenstein
Jamie is joined by David Rubenstein—co-founder of The Carlyle Group and author of The Highest Calling: Conversations on the American Presidency—to discuss the legacies of presidents from Abraham Lincoln to Joe Biden and what we can do about America’s debt.
The Agenda:
—Original interviews with presidents
—Is Lincoln the greatest president?
—Unpredictable paths to the presidency
—Franklin D. Roosevelt’s transformation
—Gerald Ford’s Pardon of Richard Nixon
—Donald Trump and Joe Biden
—Anti-Israel encampments
—Debt and global stability
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9/30/2024 • 1 hour, 37 seconds
All the Lonely Conservatives (Left, Right & Center Crossover)
Sarah Isgur drags David French and Jonah Goldberg into the podcast multiverse, resulting in a dramatic Dispatch/Left, Right & Center crossover.
The Agenda:
As Liz Cheney goes, so go a narrow faction of the loosely-defined never-Trump Republicans
Conservatism is not on the menu
What a president can't do
Are Israel attacks on Hezbollah a prelude to a regional war?
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9/27/2024 • 56 minutes, 38 seconds
Is Iran Suicidal? | Interview: Reuel Marc Gerecht
Reuel Marc Gerecht, a former Iranian-targets officer in the Central Intelligence Agency and current fellow at the Foundations for the Defense of Democracy, joins Jamie to discuss Israel’s most recent operation against Hezbollah and how Iran might respond.
The Agenda:
—The effectiveness of Israeli intelligence operations
—How did Hezbollah get the pagers?
—Is Iran suicidal?
—The health of the Ayatollah
—Intelligence failure on October 7
—U.S. engagement in the Middle East
Show Notes:
—TMD's reporting on the attacks
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9/23/2024 • 42 minutes, 11 seconds
I’m Not Inflaming Political Violence, You Are | Roundtable
Sarah and Steve are joined by Mike Warren from the campaign trail in North Carolina and former Democratic Sen. Heidi Heitkamp to discuss the state of the race and the Trump campaign's ground game (or lack thereof).
The Agenda:
—Are we going through a political realignment?
—Teamsters won’t endorse a president
—Ground game vs. legal strategy
—Political violence this election season
—The former president grasps for “media bias” straws
—The Exotic Cat-Eaters of Springfield, Ohio
—Paging Hezbollah
Show Notes:
—What Would Stop the Steal 2.0 Look Like?
—New York Times poll
—Boiling Frogs: Hot-Blooded
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9/20/2024 • 1 hour, 23 seconds
Donald Trump’s Soul | Interview: Olivia Nuzzi
This interview was recorded prior to the apparent assassination attempt against Donald Trump at Mar-a-Lago.
Olivia Nuzzi, Washington correspondent for New York Magazine, joins Jamie to discuss her recent profile of Donald Trump, “I Examined Donald Trump's Ear — and His Soul.
”The Agenda:
—Trump after the July 13 assassination attempt
—Behind the iconic photo
—How does Trump view himself?
—Trump’s childhood home
—Trump’s presidential portrait
—Nuzzi’s profile of Joe Biden
—“Humanizing” Donald Trump
—Would Nuzzi profile anyone?
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9/16/2024 • 49 minutes, 12 seconds
Who Moderates the Moderators | Roundtable
Sarah, Steve, and Jonah break down the first (and possibly only) debate between Donald Trump and Kamala Harris and whether or not it will move the needle.
The Agenda:
—Kamala Harris won
—Will the Trump-Harris debate actually matter?
—Steve missed the eating pets controversy
—Trump’s debate prep
—No clarity on abortion policy
—The rise of independent voters
—Is media bias worth your time?
Show Notes:
—“Keep the cat memes flowing”
—Chris Rufo’s $5,000 cat-eating bounty
—The Federalist: ABC Should Be Prosecuted For Illegal Contributions To Harris In ‘Debate’
—Post-debate Dispatch Live
—Fact-checking the Harris-Trump ABC News debate
—The RFK Jr. dead bear cub story
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9/13/2024 • 1 hour, 14 minutes, 19 seconds
MAGA No More? | Interview: Jonathan Martin
Jonathan Martin, Politico’s politics bureau chief and senior political columnist, joins Jamie to explain why the GOP needs to lose big in order to hasten a post-Trump Republican Party.
The Agenda:
—Martin’s POLITICO piece on a Post-Trump party
—Unapologetic book plug
—Is Steve Hayes a RINO?
—If Trump loses 2024, will he run again?
—J.D. Vance as a VP candidate
—Was Joe Biden’s ousting planned months ago?
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9/9/2024 • 42 minutes, 27 seconds
Liberal Elegy | Roundtable
Reason Magazine editor-at-large Nick Gillespie joins Sarah, Steve, and Jonah to discuss whether conservatives (and libertarians) would be better off with a Trump or Kamala win in November.
The Agenda:
—If Republicans Want to Win, They Need Trump to Lose — Big
—No small government parties
—Trump and Harris’ “harmonic convergence”
—To fight wokeness, vote Harris
—The way forward for third parties
—The need for a new consensus
—Future of the two-party system
Show Notes:
—Yuval Levin on Advisory Opinions
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9/6/2024 • 1 hour, 11 minutes, 43 seconds
Surviving Trumpworld | Interview: H.R. McMaster
Retired General H.R. McMaster joins Jamie to discuss his book, At War with Ourselves: My Tour of Duty in the Trump White House, and give a detailed account during his time as Trump's national security adviser.
The Agenda:
—Trump’s disruptive nature
—The Russian collusion narrative that created a cloud over Trump's presidency
—Trump’s moods and rages
—McMaster’s proudest achievements
—Inside Trump’s decision-making process
—Should there be a ceasefire between Israel and Hamas?
Show Notes:
—John Kelly’s comments to CNN
—John Kelly's accusations about Trump’s service member comments
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9/2/2024 • 1 hour, 8 minutes, 2 seconds
All That Fluff | Roundtable
Megan McArdle joins Steve, Jonah, and Sarah to adjudicate the minutiae of the least consequential civil war you'll ever regret hearing about: between the Bulwark Front of Judea and the Judean Dispatch Front.
The Agenda:
—Harris’ first interview
—Moving to the right
—Does media matter?
—Killing the primary system
—The Twitter Spat
—Against endorsements
—Why it’s important to be honest
Show Notes:
—John Berman’s interview with Michael Tyler on fracking
—Nick Catoggio on The Twitter Spat
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8/30/2024 • 1 hour, 7 minutes, 22 seconds
Are the Normies Taking Over? | Interview: Ben Dreyfuss
Ben Dreyfuss, the former Mother Jones editorial director who now publishes the Calm Down Substack, shares his insights from the Democratic National Convention and takes Jamie's questions about whether Kamala Harris showed her party that she's a competent candidate.
The Agenda:
—From the convention floor of the DNC
—The left-wing influence
—Decline of woke politics
—Speculating Harris' priorities as president
—Implications of a Trump victory
—The future of journalism
Show Notes:
—Dispatch Live post-DNC recap
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8/26/2024 • 39 minutes, 51 seconds
SNEAK PEEK: Kamala Is the Democratic Nominee | Dispatch Live Roundtable
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8/23/2024 • 23 minutes, 40 seconds
Can Kamala Harris Escape Her Record? | Interview: Bakari Sellers
Friend of Vice President Kamala Harris and former South Carolina Representative Bakari Sellers joins Jamie to defend Harris’ unwillingness to sit down for interviews and her ideological fluctuations.
The Agenda:
—Harris as a “practical progressive”
—Evolving policy positions
—Harris’ economic agenda
—Defending Israel
—Jonah owes Bakari a drink?
—Racial disparities in modern America
—The state of boxing
Show Notes:
—Nick Catoggio’s Boiling Frogs newsletter on Harris agenda
—Jonah’s G-File on price gouging
—The life of Cleveland Sellers
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8/19/2024 • 54 minutes, 13 seconds
David French Is Wrong (Or Is He?) | Roundtable
Let's talk about voting. Sarah, Jonah, and Megan McArdle get epistemological breaking down David French's column endorsing Kamala Harris and realize they can't even agree on the the purpose of voting. What kind of Democrat will Kamala Harris run as, anyway?
The Agenda:
—David French: To Save Conservatism From Itself, I Am Voting for Harris
—Jonah: Voting Isn’t A Window Into the Soul
—Why Megan is voting for Harris
—Jonah has lost Sarah
—Can “Obamaism” save Democrats?
—Harris’ policy platform will be “light on detail”
—Blaming greedy capitalists
—“Has the U.S. beat inflation, Mr. President?”
—Will the DNC boost Harris?
—Should journalists publish hacked information?
Show Notes:
—Matt Yglesias on greedflation
—Eric Levitz on greedflation
—Scott Lincicome on greedflation
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8/16/2024 • 1 hour, 21 minutes, 31 seconds
What Should Never Trumpers Do Now? | Interview: Matt Lewis
Daily Beast columnist Matt Lewis joins Jamie to discuss the shifting dynamics of the 2024 election cycle and why he believes Donald Trump’s “threat to democracy” doesn’t mean he has to vote for Kamala Harris.
The Agenda:
—Current presidential landscape
—What happened to J.D. Vance?
—Is Trump actually a threat to democracy?
—Will the Never Trump movement ever be irrelevant?
—Best- and worst-case scenarios of a Trump presidency
Show Notes:
—Filthy Rich Politicians: The Swamp Creatures, Latte Liberals, and Ruling-Class Elites Cashing in on America
—Kevin Williamson on Vance's misplaced blame of the working class
—Jamie Weinstein on "The Next Level" podcast
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8/12/2024 • 49 minutes, 52 seconds
Pivoting to the Far Left | Roundtable
Sarah, Jonah, and Megan McArdle break down the Tim Walz vice presidential pick and discuss the state of conservatism at the local level. Plus: an off-the-rails Not Worth Your Time. Steve, close your ears.
The Agenda:
—The Tim Walz pick
—Are the Harris-Walz vibes better?
—“Kamabla”
—Is conservatism alive at the state level?
—Markets aren’t fun anymore
—Jonah’s mommy/daddy theory
—“America is in a bad marriage”
—Tim Walz’s "slanderous" couch joke
—Ballerina farm: How’s feminism doing?
—NWYT: Doggy perfume
Show Notes:
—Boiling Frogs on the Walz pick
—“Notice how the barrel of Walz’s gun is pointed away from his dog.”
—Jonathan Rauch on The Remnant
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8/9/2024 • 1 hour, 27 minutes, 31 seconds
Will Israel Become a Rogue State? | Interview: Nadav Eyal, Einat Wilf, & David French
Are Israel and Iran rolling towards a regional war? Can Israel still rely on the United States as an ally? Is the war in Gaza over and did Hamas already win? Adaam is joined by senior Yedioth Ahronoth reporter Nadav Eyal, political commentator and author of The War of Return Einat Wilf, and Advisory Opinions special guest (and New York Times columnist) David French to discuss the balance of power in the Middle East.
Show Notes:
—Kevin D. Williamson's piece on Israel not 'risking' a regional war
—Charlotte Lawson's reporting from Israel
—Einat's appearance on The Remnant
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8/5/2024 • 1 hour, 20 minutes, 4 seconds
The Weirding Way | Roundtable
What a difference two weeks make. Jonah, Sarah, Chris Stirewalt, and a beach-bound Megan McArdle discuss whether Kamala Harris’ newly energized and surprisingly disciplined campaign is getting on Trump’s nerves.
The agenda:
—Kamala basking in the coconut glow
—Trump’s onstage interview at the NABJ conference
—Gov. Roy Cuppa
—Trump’s messy messaging on Kamala Harris’ identity
—J.D. Vance’s controversial comments
—Evan Gershkovich and Paul Whelan come home
—More Sarah lore
Show Notes:
—Nick Catoggio on Democrats' "weird" messaging
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8/2/2024 • 1 hour, 2 minutes, 18 seconds
Newt Gingrich: ‘We Must Win’ | Interview
Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich, author of March to the Majority and host of Newt’s World, joins Jamie to debate foreign policy, Donald Trump, the media, and coup d’états.
The Agenda:
—The preservation of Israel
—Going all in on Ukraine
—What Never Trumpers miss about Donald Trump
—Who is the “establishment” and who is not?
—The assassination attempt
—How will history remember January 6
—The left-wing drift of the media
—Was Joe Biden forced out by a coup?
—Technological and biological advances
Show Notes:
—Letters of Jonathan Netanyahu
—A trio of books on real age: Michael F. Roizen’s The Great Age Reboot, Nir Barzilai’s Age Later, and David Sinclair’s Lifespan
—Peter Drucker’s The Effective Executive
—Arnold Toynbee’s A Study of History
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7/29/2024 • 1 hour, 4 minutes, 57 seconds
'This Ought to Be Alarming' | Roundtable
Steve, Jonah, and Michael are joined by TMD editor Mary Trimble to discuss Benjamin Netanyahu’s address to Congress and the subsequent protests. They also analyze Kamala Harris’ response, elite wagon-circling, Donald Trump’s scary unification of the Republican Party, and Joe Biden’s withdrawal.
The Agenda:
—Bipartisan moments: Iran and October 7
—Israel’s place in U.S. politics and its own domestic politics
—Pro-Hamas protests
—Why isn’t Kamala Harris having her “Sister Souljah moment?”
—The mainstream media’s spin on “border czar”
—How the assassination attempt changed nothing about Donald Trump
—Was Biden’s speech worth our time?
Show Notes:
—Video of the D.C. Palestinian Youth Movement releasing maggots
—The Morning Dispatch
—Axios article on “border czar” mistake
—Montage of news anchors saying “border czar”
—GovTrack scrubbing its rating of Kamala Harris as the “most liberal senator”
—Politico’s “law and order” quotes from Kamala Harris
—G-File on Jonah’s “Sigh of Relief”
—Laura Loomer’s loony tweet
—Nick Catoggio’s “Wishful Thinking”
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7/26/2024 • 1 hour, 29 minutes, 41 seconds
TEASER: Biden Drops Out
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On yet another emergency edition of Dispatch Live, Sarah is joined by Steve, Jonah, and Mike to break down President Joe Biden’s decision to withdraw from the 2024 presidential election and endorse Vice President Kamala Harris as the Democratic nominee.
The Agenda:
—Should Biden resign?
—What a Kamala Harris campaign might look like
—The campaign finance question
Show Notes:
—Dispatch Politics: Biden Withdraws From the 2024 Election
—Boiling Frogs: The Return of the Smoke-Filled Room
—Cole Murphy: How Democrats Could Replace Joe Biden as Their Nominee, Explained
—Dispatch Editorial: It’s Democrats’ Turn to Make the Hard Decision
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7/22/2024 • 32 minutes, 8 seconds
What Would a Second Trump Term Mean for Foreign Policy? | Interview: Eliot Cohen
Eliot Cohen, professor emeritus at Johns Hopkins School of Advanced International Studies, thinks a second Trump term won’t have a dramatic effect on American foreign policy. He joins Jamie to debate this point, the risk of pulling out of NATO and abandoning allies, and whether America is bound to retreat from global affairs.
NOTE: This episode was recorded on Friday, July 19, 2024—two days before President Joe Biden announced he wouldn’t be running for reelection.
The Agenda:
—Cohen’s piece in The Atlantic
—Pulling out of NATO
—The proliferation of nuclear weapons
—Relationships with China and Taiwan
—Concerns about J.D. Vance advising Trump
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7/22/2024 • 40 minutes, 51 seconds
TEASE: Trump Goes Off Script, Because Of Course He Does | Dispatch Live
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It's Dispatch After Hours. Our intrepid reporters stayed up till the wee hours to catch former President Trump's full speech on the last night at the Republican National Convention. In a manic edition of Dispatch Live, a sleep-deprived Sarah is joined by Jonah and Steve... as well as the entire Dispatch Politics team—David M. Drucker, Michael Warren, John McCormack, and Charles Hilu—reporting from the convention in Milwaukee. Was Trump able to stick the landing on his unity speech (or for that matter, to stick to the script)? Are Republicans going through an existentialist phase? Will Biden still be the nominee next week? Was the convention worth our time? What are we even doing here?
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7/19/2024 • 41 minutes, 36 seconds
The Assassination Attempt | Roundtable
Sarah, Steve, Jonah, and David French discuss the assassination attempt against former President Donald Trump during a Pennsylvania rally over the weekend.
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7/15/2024 • 1 hour, 2 minutes, 18 seconds
What Happened in France | Interview: Bernard-Henri Lévy
NOTE: This episode was recorded last week July 10, before the attempted assassination of former President Donald Trump.
French public intellectual Bernard-Henri Lévy joins Jamie on today’s episode to discuss the surprise rise of the far-left in the French elections and its implications for Western foreign policy. Plus: why BHL’s glad he’s not American.
Agenda:
—French antisemitism
—How extremism is devouring the center
—Why Jews must stay in France
—The “made-up” question of migrants
—Broken economic schemes
—Why America actually won in Afghanistan
—“Ukraine and Israel are two front lines of the same war”
Show Notes:
—Nazi hunter Serge Klarsfeld’s remarks on voting
—Jeffrey Goldberg’s “Is it time for Jews to leave Europe?”
—BHL’s “In The Footsteps of Tocqueville”
—BHL’s “The Afghan Who Won’t Surrender to the Taliban”
—Ernest Hemingway’s For Whom the Bell Tolls
—Douglas Murray
—Adam Gopnik
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7/15/2024 • 44 minutes, 21 seconds
Biden Presser Leaves Dems in Limbo | Roundtable
Sarah, Steve, and Jonah are joined by Axios’ national political correspondent Alex Thompson to analyze Joe Biden’s performance during Thursday’s press conference and where the president stands within his own party.
The Agenda:
—Vindication for Robert Hur
—Criticizing media coverage of Biden
—Vice President Kamala Harris’ electability
—Tensions between former Barack Obama aides and the Biden campaign
—Donald Trump’s campaign strategy
Show Notes:
—The Dispatch Podcast with Jonathan Martin and Alex Burns
—George Clooney's New York Times op-ed
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7/12/2024 • 1 hour, 7 minutes, 8 seconds
'Democrats Should Stop Gaslighting Us' | Interview: Tim Miller
Steve is joined by The Bulwark's Tim Miller to briefly rehash their disagreement from March and discuss the backlash Miller has received since calling for Biden to step down.
The Agenda:
—Not interested in circling the wagon
—The spin isn’t working
—The American People Should Demand Better
—Trump and Biden are “categorically” different
—Biden’s “MAGA” response
—Who would Tim pick instead of Biden?
—Credibility in opinion journalism
Show Notes:
—Tim Miller’s interview on his book, Why We Did It
—“The Dispatch and the Bulwark walk into a bar…”
—The Bulwark: “Stephen Hayes: Grading Biden”
—Tim Miller: “The Bidens Need to Have a Talk”
—Tim Miller: “Dear Dems: The Gaslighting Isn’t Helping Matters”
—Reagan and Mondale’s 1984 debate
—“It’s Democrats’ Turn to Make the Hard Decision”
—The Bulwark: “Jon Lovett: Unprecedented Times”
—Miss South Carolina answers a question
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7/9/2024 • 1 hour, 8 minutes, 41 seconds
How MAGA Election Conspiracies Threaten Public Servants | Interview: Stephen Richer
Stephen Richer, the Maricopa County recorder—a public official responsible for recording public documents—joins Jamie to discuss the harassment campaign against him and his thoughts about the 2024 election.
The Agenda:
—What is a county recorder?
—The “lynch” threat
—Looking into 2020 fraud claims
—Richer’s defamation lawsuit
—Did Trump know the 2020 fraud claims were false?
—What happens in 2024?
—Being a part of Trump’s GOP
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7/8/2024 • 43 minutes, 6 seconds
Dishonest, Partisan, or Just Bad at Their Job? | Roundtable
In a special Independence Day episode, Sarah, Jonah, and Steve share their Fourth of July traditions and try to figure out how Democrats can get out of this mess.
The Agenda:
—Calvin Coolidge’s Declaration of Independence speech
—Centuries-old cherries found at Mt. Vernon
—Why won’t Joe Biden leave the race?
—Biden’s statement on the SCOTUS immunity ruling
—What would Sarah do?
—Harris has a problem
—Did the media cover Biden’s age well?
—What does all this mean for Trump’s VP pick?
Show Notes:
—A celebration of a free press
—Jonah’s G-File on parties
—Jake Tapper and Sen. Chris Coons
—Steve on Tim Miller’s podcast
—Matthew Dowd’s tweet
—Hadas Gold’s piece on White House reporters
—New York Times editorial on Biden
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7/4/2024 • 50 minutes, 22 seconds
Ex-Clinton Aide on Whether Joe Should Go | Interview: Philippe Reines
Political consultant and former aide to Hillary Clinton, Philippe Reines, joins Jamie to discuss Biden's performance in last week's debate and where Democrats should go from here.
The Agenda:
—Comparing Biden and Trump's health
—"Heaviest president since Taft"
—Should Biden bow out?
—Hillary Clinton 2024?
—January 6 and a Trump second term
—Biden's stuttering problem
—Will Trump target Hillary Clinton?
—Project 2025
Show Notes:
—Phillippe as a Donald Trump stand-in debate prep
—Sen. Chris Coons on Fox News
—Obama's tweet on the debate
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7/1/2024 • 51 minutes, 29 seconds
Yikes | Roundtable
Sarah, Kevin, Steve and Washington Post columnist Megan McArdle discuss Joe Biden’s hard-to-watch debate performance. Is anyone really surprised?
The Agenda:
—Will Joe still the be Democratic nominee?
—Who would let Biden step on that stage?
—Trump’s veepstakes
—Oh yeah, Trump was awful too
—Looking forward to September
Show Notes:
—Cole Murphy's explainer on the residency issue
—Our post-debate Dispatch Live
—Today's Morning Dispatch
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6/28/2024 • 1 hour, 6 minutes, 10 seconds
Destined for Greatness | Interview: Shiloh Brooks
Jamie is joined by Dr. Shilo Brooks, executive director of Princeton’s James Madison Program in American Ideals and Institutions, to discuss how looking to the past can save the next generation.
Agenda:
— Five Thinkers: Xenophon, Niccolo Machiavelli, Theodore Roosevelt, Sandra Day O’Connor, Frederick Douglass
— Restoring honorable ambition
— Rebuffing criticisms of Western classical tradition
— Getting ideology out of classrooms
— Why pro-Hamas demonstrators are on elite campuses
— Don’t be safe, don’t be boring
— Is there a leader alive worth admiring?
Show Notes:
— James Madison Program in American Ideals and Institutions
— Niccolo Machiavelli’s The Prince
— Xenophon’s Education of Cyrus
— Frederick Douglass’ “Self Made Men”
— Friedrich Nietzsche’s Beyond Good and Evil
— Larry McMurtry’s Lonesome Dove
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6/24/2024 • 49 minutes, 39 seconds
Why You Should Watch the Biden-Trump Debate ... On Mute | Roundtable
Sarah, Mike, and Jonah analyze Donald Trump and Joe Biden’s debate strategies, or lack thereof. Plus: the futility of fighting political headwinds, executive overreach, and a new Dispatch newsletter.
Agenda:
— Why presidential debates don’t (and do) matter
— Improving Biden’s comms strategy
— Veepstakes for Trump
— Politics of Biden’s immigration policy
— Congress, do your job!
— This weekend: the new Dispatch Faith
Show Notes:
— The Dispatch’s The Collision
— Advisory Opinions’ Living Anachronism
— Bump stocks decision
— The Skiff’s Interview with David French
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6/21/2024 • 1 hour, 1 minute, 59 seconds
In Data We Trust | Interview: Steve Ballmer
Why does one of the world’s wealthiest men want to fund a database full of U.S. facts and figures? Steve Ballmer, former Microsoft executive and founder of USAfacts.org, joins Jamie at Dispatch HQ to discuss his philanthropic efforts.
The Agenda:
—Saying no to Mitt Romney (back in the day)
—Figures on immigration, healthcare, and debt
—Data-based decision-making
—The aftermath of Hamas’ October 7 attack
—The impact of AI
—Funding Harvard
Show Notes:
—The Atlantic: The Golden Age of American Jews is Ending
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6/17/2024 • 42 minutes, 33 seconds
Hunter’s Trial, Alito’s Tribulations | Roundtable
Sarah is joined by Jonah and Steve to discuss the Hunter Biden conviction and debate how much Biden’s age matters.
The Agenda:
—“This is what Joe Biden wanted.”
—Hunter’s tax charges
—Rep. Nancy Mace’s political evolution
—Have Republicans set expectations too low for Biden?
—IVF and political malpractice
—The secret recording of Justices Samuel Alito and John Roberts
Show Notes:
—Dukakis' death penalty question
—Yuval Levin’s new book: American Covenant: How the Constitution Unified Our Nation―and Could Again
—Yuval Levin on The Remnant
—Ryan Anderson’s piece about IVF
—NYT: Alito’s ‘Godliness’ Comment Echoes a Broader Christian Movement
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6/14/2024 • 59 minutes, 5 seconds
Former NYT Producer on Groupthink in Journalism | Interview: Andy Mills
Jamie is joined by Andy Mills—host of Reflector and a co-creator of the New York Times’ “The Daily” podcast—to discuss why he left seminary for journalism and what’s gone wrong inside American newsrooms.
The Agenda:
—Andy’s background
—Why is everyone in New York?
—Policing curiosity
—The outsized power of young journalists
—Take them seriously, not literally
—Woke McCarthyism
—The Twitterization of journalists
—What makes a great podcast?
Show Notes:
—The Dispatch Podcast with A.G. Sulzberger
—Andy Mills and Matthew Boll’s Reflector
—The Witch Trials of J.K. Rowling
—Nellie Bowles' book
—Tom Cotton's op-ed in the NYT
—Adam Rubenstein's Chick-fil-A story
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6/10/2024 • 55 minutes, 30 seconds
Joe's Woes | Roundtable
Sarah, Jonah, and Mike discuss President Joe Biden’s immigration executive action and the coverage of his son Hunter Biden’s trial. The three also define “whataboutism” and “both-sidesism”, narrowly avoiding an existential crisis for Jonah.
The Agenda:
—Biden’s border crisis
—Hunter’s gun trial begins
—The debate over Biden’s age
—The hostage crisis in Gaza
—Returning grocery carts
Show Notes:
—Jonah’s Wednesday G-File
—Ronald Reagan on Saturday Night Live
—Advisory Opinions’ episode on Hunter Biden
—Jonah’s Remnant with Mike Warren
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6/7/2024 • 1 hour, 12 minutes, 2 seconds
Why Bother to Vote | Interview: George Will
Washington Post columnist George Will joins Jamie to discuss the Trump verdict, the state of American politics, Israel’s predicament, the influence of college campuses, foreign policy, and the future of the Republican Party.
Show Notes:
—Will's Washington Post column on not voting in November
—Will's Washington Post column on nuclear annihilation
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6/3/2024 • 40 minutes, 49 seconds
Trump's Guilty. Now What? | Roundtable
A jury found Donald Trump guilty on all 34 counts in his New York criminal trial. Sarah is joined by Jonah, Mike, and Steve to break down the conviction and discuss where we all go from here.
The Agenda:
—Was this a Stalin show trial?
—When law enforcement becomes personal
—Trump’s defense failure
—Shame on everybody
—Did this change anyone's vote?
—Trump raises $34.8 million
—Will Trump receive prison time?
—People you disagree with aren’t evil
—Was this worth our time?
Show Notes:
—The Collision: What's next?
—Last night's live Advisory Opinions
—Rep. Susan Collins’ reaction to the conviction
—NYT’s profile on Alvin Bragg
—Advisory Opinions on the New York indictment
—Elie Honig: Prosecutors Got Trump — But They Contorted the Law
—Larry Hogan’s statement on the conviction
—538 emergency pod
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5/31/2024 • 1 hour, 2 minutes, 5 seconds
What Are Economists Actually Good For? | Interview: Doug Holtz-Eakin
Doug Holtz-Eakin, president of the American Action Forum, joins Jamie to discuss the role of an economist and recession predictions.
The Agenda:
—Explaining why a recession hasn’t come this year
—The role of the Federal Reserve in managing inflation
—Rent prices and housing stock
—Education reform and a pro-growth tax code
—The breaking point with interest rates
—Will the U.S. dollar stop being the reserve currency of the world?
—The economic impact of defending Taiwan against China
Show Notes:
—Minutes from the latest Fed meeting
—Latest Consumer Price Index (CPI) data
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5/27/2024 • 35 minutes, 38 seconds
Where Do Haley Voters Go? | Roundtable
Jonah is joined by Steve and Mike to discuss Nikki Haley saying she will vote for Donald Trump, and they also get into the “deadly force” lie being spread by Trump supporters in Congress and right-wing media.
The Agenda:
—Haley endorses Trump
—Trump-Haley ticket
—How the ‘Deadly Force’ Lie Swept Through the MAGA Media Ecosystem
—The corrupting influence of Trump
—Potluck foreign policy
—The ICC arrest warrants
—The death of a butcher
—The pizza debate
Show Notes:
—Boiling Frogs: A Case for VP Haley
—Julie Kelly’s original “deadly force” tweet
—Julie Kelly’s January 6 book
—Jesse Watters' coverage of the “deadly force” claims
—Trump’s Wildwood, New Jersey, speech
—The Trump-Oprah voter
—Biden’s Morehouse speech
—The Remnant with Ken Pollack
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5/24/2024 • 1 hour, 16 minutes, 46 seconds
How George Floyd Changed American Education | Interview: George Packer
George Packer joins Jamie to discuss how a new round of progressive culture in universities stems from the George Floyd and Black Lives Matter protests.
The Agenda:
—The competitive atmosphere of getting into elite pre-schools
—Rejection of nuance and debate
—How to teach history and civics
—New progressivism and its roots
—Progressive ideologies leading to cancel culture
—Culture wars and anti-Zionism
Show Notes:
—Packer: When the Culture War Comes for the Kids
—Packer: “The Campus-Left Occupation That Broke Higher Education”
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5/20/2024 • 1 hour, 17 minutes, 17 seconds
Trump or Baby Hitler? | Roundtable
Donald Trump and Joe Biden have agreed to a debate and no one knows who benefits. Steve and Jonah join Sarah to make some predictions about the upcoming presidential debate and discuss how you should think about your vote.
The Agenda:
—The debate
—Why did Biden agree to this?
—White House operatives’ blind spots
—RFK Jr. not invited to the debate
—“Never Trump” vs. “Never Again”
—Would Jonah vote against American baby Hitler?
—How you should think about your vote
—Jonah for President
—Official judicial ruling: tacos and burritos are sandwiches
Show Notes:
—Nick Catoggio: Let’s Get Ready to Bumble
—NYT: Biden’s approval ratings
—High Steaks
—Axios: Biden’s polling denial
—Biden accepts the debate
—Biden’s “Free on Wednesday” T-shirts
—Pod Save America with Jen Psaki
—Polling on who people trust with info on Ukraine
—The Bulwark with Steve
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5/17/2024 • 1 hour, 7 minutes, 8 seconds
How the Far Left Thinks About Israel | Interview: Bill Ayers
Jamie is joined by Bill Ayers—former professor and co-founder of The Weather Underground, a far-left militant organization—to provide a far-left perspective on the merits of the anti-Israel encampments and Israel’s response to October 7.
The Agenda:
—The safety of Jews on college campuses
—Do the encampment protesters care about the hostages?
—Condemning Hamas
—How Israel should’ve responded to October 7
—Is Israel an apartheid state?
—Is Israel a free and open society?
—Debating a two-state solution
—Monolithic thought on college campuses
Show Notes:
—Jamie’s first interview with Bill Ayers
—Jamie’s second interview with Bill Ayers
—The Dispatch Podcast with Medhi Hasan
—Steve Salaita’s article on Israel’s self-defense
—Bill Ayers on X
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5/13/2024 • 1 hour, 7 minutes, 19 seconds
Embracing Failure | Roundtable
Megan McArdle of the Washington Post joins Jonah and Sarah to discuss Trump’s *explicit* trial, vice presidential contenders, and the downfall of the Tea Party.
The Agenda:
—Vice presidential picks
—Let’s keep the Burgumentum going!!!
—Handgate and Marco Rubio
—FreedomWorks closes up shop
—Checking in on third parties
—There are monsters inside of RFK Jr.
—Man vs. Bear debate
Show Notes:
—WaPo's explanation of brain worms
—Biden threatens to withhold military aid from Israel
—"A Huge Gender Gap is Emerging Among Young Voters"
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5/10/2024 • 1 hour, 12 minutes, 41 seconds
The Second Coming of Trump | Interview: Robert Costa
Robert Costa, chief election and campaign correspondent for CBS News, joins Jamie to discuss what a second Trump administration would look like.
The Agenda:
—GOP Rep. Dan Crenshaw’s previous Dispatch Podcast appearance and Costa’s response
—How Trump pressured different Republican leaders leading up to January 6
—Steve Bannon’s motivation and role
—Trump’s ongoing legal cases and how they affect his campaign
—Trump’s possible VP picks
Show Notes:
—NYT "Could Trump Go to Prison? If He Does, the Secret Service Goes, Too"
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5/6/2024 • 50 minutes
The Cult of The College Protest | Roundtable
Can you compare the pro-Palestinian protests on college campuses to January 6? What about 1968? Or 2011? Sarah is joined by Jonah and Steve to debate these questions and discuss Trump’s Time magazine interview.
The Agenda:
—Nostalgia for the Civil Rights protests
—Do we have political parties anymore?
—Protests become violent
—Whose fault is this?
—No Jewish hummus
—The UNC frat bros’ Iwo Jima moment
—Trump’s Time interview
—Ron DeSantis bans lab-grown meat
Show Notes:
—Kaitlan Collins interviews J.D. Vance on CNN
—Serge Schmemann: Student Protest Is an Essential Part of Education
—UCLA wins the award
—Jonah’s Wednesday G-File
—McKay Coppins: You Should Go to a Trump Rally
—Ross Douthat: There Will Be No Trump Coup
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5/3/2024 • 1 hour, 10 minutes, 9 seconds
Is Qatar an Arsonist or a Firefighter? | Interview: Jonathan Schanzer
Qatar hosts a major U.S. air base, but its patronage of radical Islamist terror groups has some Americans questioning the alliance. Jonathan Schanzer, senior vice president for research at the Foundation for Defense of Democracies, joins Jamie to explain.
The Agenda:
—Introduction to Qatar
—Various actors and terrorist organizations in Qatar
—Qatar’s financial influence in Washington
—Al Jazeera's relationship with Qatar
—Responding to Rep. Dan Crenshaw’s comments on Qatar
Show Notes:
—Jonathan for The Jerusalem Post: Qatar: ‘The arsonist who then claims to be the firefighter'
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4/29/2024 • 44 minutes, 7 seconds
All the Lonely People | Interview: Derek Thompson
Derek Thompson of The Atlantic joins Victoria to answer the question: Why did Americans stop hanging out? The two discuss the steep decline in face-to-face socializing, the rise of loneliness, and the fraternizing role of protests.
The Agenda:
—The decline of social institutions in America
—Smartphones’ effect on teenagers’ lives
—Women turning to pets
—Challenges of raising kids in the digital age
Show Notes:
—Derek for The Atlantic: Meritocracy Is Killing High-School Sports
—Derek for The Atlantic: Concerts? I'll Pass
—Bowling Alone: The Collapse and Revival of American Community
—Watch this episode on YouTube
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4/28/2024 • 32 minutes, 50 seconds
Motion to Placate | Roundtable
Congress did their job—for now. Sarah is joined by Steve and Jonah on today’s episode of The Dispatch Podcast to discuss Speaker Mike Johnson’s successful passage of Ukraine and Israel aid and explain the intellectual history of the illiberal right.
The Agenda:
—Ukraine aid passed
—Heritage Foundation vs. Erick Erickson
—What is conservatism?
—Columbia protests
—Will history prove them right?
—Genocidal language at Columbia
—Looking Jewish
Show Notes:
—Ukraine: The Latest with Jonah
—Jonah's recap of the Mike Johnson saga
—Erick Erickson’s article on free markets
—The Great Debate: Edmund Burke, Thomas Paine, and the Birth of Right and Left
—Norman Rockwell painting
—Why are we protesting?
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4/26/2024 • 1 hour, 22 minutes, 1 second
Columbia Professor: Terrorism Is The Point | Interview: Shai Davidai
Adaam is joined by Shai Davidai, an Israeli-born assistant professor at Columbia University, to discuss a viral moment in which he was denied entry to Columbia’s campus and how the university’s administration is failing to protect Jewish students.
The Agenda:
—Shai Davidai’s background, from Israel to Columbia
—The antisemitism he was warned about
—Dialogue with protesters
—The administrative involvement in the protests
—Play-by-play of Davidai's experience on Columbia's campus
—Are Jewish students safe on college campuses?
Show Notes:
—Davidai's "Rape is never ok" tweet
—Petition calls for Davidai's termination
—Davidai's appearance on 60 Minutes
—Rep. Ilhan Omar questions Columbia University president
—Former Iranian President Ahmadinejad's appearance at Columbia
—Time to Condemn's website
—Resistance 101 event at Columbia
—Joseph Borgen, Jewish man assaulted in 2021
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4/24/2024 • 1 hour, 36 minutes, 50 seconds
The Dispatch and The Bulwark Walk Into a Bar... | Interview: Tim Miller
Jamie is joined by Tim Miller, host of The Bulwark Podcast, for a debate on the impact of social justice principles in the American education system.
Jamie invites The Bulwark Podcast host Tim Miller to debate the impact of social justice principles in the American education system.
The Agenda:
—Younger people's support of Palestine
—Woke curriculums in elementary and middle schools
—Debate on sexual education
—Why Miller thinks Donald Trump's second term would be worse than the first
—The difference between The Bulwark and The Dispatch
Show Notes:
—Steve Hayes on The Bulwark Podcast
—Jamie Weinstein on The Bulwark Podcast
—The Bulwark Podcast featuring Ross Douthat
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4/22/2024 • 1 hour, 17 minutes, 21 seconds
Bodega Campaign Tactics | Roundtable
As Congress devolves into high school drama, Sarah, Jonah, and Mike discuss the fight over aid to Ukraine and Israel and the resulting threats to oust Speaker Mike Johnson.
The Agenda:
—Internal drama and blocks to getting foreign aid passed
—Polling shows Trump losing his lead in swing states
—Trump’s bodega campaign tactics
—Latinos’ affinity for Trump: real or media illusion?
—The need for messianic figures in politics
—Assessing the Biden administration’s public-facing stance on Israel
—Does spanking children reveal a cultural divide between the elites and working-class people?
Show Notes:
—Mike Johnson’s interview with Jake Tapper
—National polling
—Nick Catoggio’s Boiling Frogs on Mike Johnson
—This week’s Collision
—The Commentary Magazine podcast
—Jonah’s G-File on the messianic temptation
—The Remnant with Eli Lake
—Matthew Yglesias on “the spanking gap”
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4/19/2024 • 1 hour, 11 minutes, 30 seconds
How to Read Politics and Politicians | Interview: Carlos Lozada
Jamie is joined by New York Times opinion columnist and Pulitzer Prize winner Carlos Lozada to discuss his new book, The Washington Book: How to Read Politics and Politicians. The two discuss how to read a politician’s memoir and the failures of The 1619 Project.
The Agenda:
—Does everyone use a ghostwriter?
—Insights from the acknowledgments section
—Inside Obama’s presidency
—Has The 1619 Project harmed the NYT’s brand?
—The worst books by politicians
Show Notes:
—Rising Star: The Making of Barack Obama
—Promise Me, Dad: A Year of Hope, Hardship, and Purpose
—Decision Points
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4/15/2024 • 1 hour, 1 minute, 41 seconds
No True Conviction on Abortion | Roundtable
Sarah, Steve, and Jonah react to Donald Trump’s milquetoast yet controversial statement on abortion and how it's confusing Republican abortion policy at large.
The Agenda:
—What do people really think about abortion?
—Conviction vs. convenience on the abortion issue
—Israel’s pullout from southern Gaza
—Is Israel making the same mistakes as America?
—Craziness on college campuses
—Trump’s “Sister Souljah” moment
—Does Hamas have “enough” living hostages?
—How NPR lost America’s trust
—What have we gotten wrong?
Show Notes:
—Trump’s “rogue cops” comment
—2022 midterm exit polls
—David French’s writing on a “pro-life culture”
—The Dispatch editorial on the lesser of two evils
—Trump: “Take the guns first, go through due process second.”
—The Dispatch Podcast with Jonathan Martin and Alex Burns
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4/12/2024 • 1 hour, 13 minutes, 27 seconds
Debating the Israel-Hamas War | Interview: Mehdi Hasan
Mehdi Hasan, former MSNBC host and co-founder of the media outlet Zeteo, joins Jamie for a heated debate about Israel’s response to Hamas’ October 7 attack and the accusations that the IDF is committing war crimes.
The Agenda:
—Laying out the current situation in Gaza
—The issue of proportionality in the use of force
—Debating casualty numbers from the Gaza Health Ministry
—The feasibility of a two-state solution
—The question of war crimes
—The United States’ role in the conflict
Show Notes:
—"Mansour Abbas Is an Arab and a Proud Israeli"
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4/8/2024 • 48 minutes, 13 seconds
Biden’s Losing the Vibe War | Roundtable
Jonah the usurper invites Kevin, Mike, and Washington Post columnist Megan McArdle on today’s episode of The Dispatch Podcast for some unfettered, wide-ranging punditry stretching from Biden’s wobbling support of Israel to the political implications of Florida’s abortion law.
The Agenda:
—World Central Kitchen deaths in Gaza
—Biden’s balancing act between addressing concerns from the pro-Palestinian crowd and supporting Israel
—The Florida Supreme Court upholds the state’s six-week abortion ban, but the pro-life victory could be short-lived
—California's housing crisis and the state's regulatory barriers
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4/5/2024 • 1 hour, 17 minutes, 28 seconds
Gaza Changed Urban Warfare | Interview: John Spencer
Jamie is joined by John Spencer, an author, former colonel in the California State Guard, and urban warfare expert with 25 years of experience in the Army, to examine Israel’s tactics in Gaza and weigh in on allegations the IDF is committing genocide and/or war crimes.
The Agenda:
—Joe Rogan accuses Israel of genocide
—John’s experience in Gaza
—War is not quantitative
—How to determine proportionality
—"High threshold of civilian death"
—We are at war with ignorance
—H.R. McMaster’s “zero-dark-thirty fallacy”
—Reception of his expertise in Ukraine vs. Gaza
Show Notes:
—John: Israel Has Created a New Standard for Urban Warfare. Why Will No One Admit It?
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4/1/2024 • 50 minutes, 13 seconds
About That NBC News Drama ... | Roundtable
The hiring and firing of Ronna McDaniel at NBC News brought up mixed feelings for the staffers at The Dispatch. Sarah, Jonah, Steve, and David (French!) open up about their own complicated relationships with mainstream media, the problems with hiring partisans into newsrooms, and whether McDaniel is a good avatar for any of these questions.
The Agenda:
—Roles of ideological purity in media
—The crew’s experiences at their respective news outlets
—Steve’s behind-the-scenes insight into McDaniel’s Meet the Press interview
—The changing definition of RINO
—The lack of truthfulness in news outlets
—Robert F. Kennedy Jr.’s ballot-access dilemma
Show Notes:
—Meidas Touch article on Ronna McDaniel hiring
—Vox hit piece on Sarah Isgur following CNN exit
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3/29/2024 • 1 hour, 10 minutes, 52 seconds
The Blindspots of Partisan Media | Interview: Brian Stelter
Brian Stelter, longtime media critic and author of Network of Lies, joins Jamie on today’s episode of The Dispatch Podcast to discuss the state of newsrooms nationwide in an age of ideological division, debate the blindspots of partisan media, and offer thoughts on the future of journalism.
The Agenda:
—Overcorrecting coverage of Trump
—Trump’s influence on ratings
—COVID-19 coverage and school closures
—Reporting on race riots
—Forgetting 2020
—The New York Times' newsroom culture
—Going independent and successful alternative media platforms
—Stelter’s take on what CNN should do now
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3/25/2024 • 1 hour, 3 minutes, 1 second
The Double-Hater Voter | Roundtable
Sarah, Jonah, Steve, and Mike dive into the latest punditry—Ohio’s primary, Trump’s trials, and the Middle East—before veering off into an Abraham Lincoln and 1619 Project cul-de-sac.
The Agenda:
—Bernie Moreno wipes the floor
—Jonah pushes back on reveries of self-congratulation
—Who are the double-haters in the 2024 election?
—An update on Trump trials
—The worst “win” you can have as a prosecutor
—Sen. Chuck Schumer’s speech on Israel
—Abraham Lincoln, worth our time
—Happy birthday Jonah!
Show Notes:
—The Collision on Fani Willis
—Original Jurisdiction on Judge Aileen Cannon's clerks quitting
—The Remnant with Allen Guelzo
—Lincoln’s second inaugural address
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3/22/2024 • 1 hour, 5 minutes, 43 seconds
Should the U.S. Defend Taiwan? | Interview: Dan Negrea and Matthew Kroenig
Former Trump administration official Dan Negrea and national security strategist Matt Kroenig join Jamie to discuss their book We Win, They Lose. Jamie challenges their thesis that a Trump-Regan foreign policy fusion is possible.
The Agenda:
-The current international landscape
-China’s aggressive military operations and Taiwan
-Can Americans stomach backing Taiwan in war?
-Trump’s switch on a TikTok ban
-The Biden administration’s failure to deter Russia
-Is there really a Trump-Regan policy fusion?
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3/18/2024 • 46 minutes, 1 second
Welcoming the Stranger | Interview: Bishop Mark Seitz
Mark Seitz, a Catholic bishop from the Diocese of El Paso, joins Victoria to discuss his approach to immigration and response to Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton’s lawsuit against a migrant house under his diocese.
The Agenda:
—Annunciation House and Paxton’s immigration lawsuit
—Policy solutions
—Addressing crime and fear of immigrations
—Is the Church for open borders?
—Biden and Trump’s recent border visits
Show Notes:
-Watch this episode on YouTube
-Bishop Mark Seitz: Statement in Support of Annunciation House
-GOP lawmakers once praised Catholic Charities. Now they want to defund the group
-Report: The mythical tie between immigration and crime
-CNN: I asked criminologists about immigration and crime in the US. Their answers may surprise you
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3/17/2024 • 33 minutes, 37 seconds
I'm With Xi | Roundtable
Sarah, Steve, and Jonah discuss TikTok’s influence over the youth (See: Kids call Congress threatening suicide over TikTok ban).
The Agenda:
-TikTok’s Chinese ownership raises national security concerns
-Klon Kitchen being cool on 60 minutes
-Robert Hur’s testimony and partisan political narratives
-Did anyone watch the Oscars?
-Kate Middleton conspiracy theories
Show Notes:
-Jonah's Gfile: I'm With Hur
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3/15/2024 • 1 hour, 5 minutes, 50 seconds
Democracy and Freedom | Interview: Natan Sharansky
Human rights activist and former Israeli politician Natan Sharansky joins Jamie to talk about his letters to the late Alexei Navalny, the current political mood in Israel, and the spread of anti-Israel sentiment on college campuses.
The Agenda:
-Navalny's murder
-The threat of left-wing antisemitism
-The future of Israeli-U.S. relations
-Comparing Joe Biden and Donald Trump and their administration's work with Israel
-Pressure against Israeli politicians
-The likelihood of Arab countries helping Gaza
-Reflections on democracy and freedom
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3/11/2024 • 54 minutes, 10 seconds
Waiting for the NASCAR Crash | Roundtable
Sarah hosts a late-night State of the Union recap with Steve, Declan, David, and John to discuss the speech’s partisan nature and whether it will matter in November. This episode was aired Thursday night as part of The Dispatch Live, a members-only livestream. Join today to watch the video and gain access to more exclusive content.
The Agenda:
—A partisan speech
—Biden meeting expectations
—Katie Britt falling flat (and not mentioning Trump)
—Where is No Labels?
—Member Q&A
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3/8/2024 • 55 minutes, 22 seconds
Should the RNC Pay Trump’s Legal Bills? | Interview: Henry Barbour
Henry Barbour, Republican National Committeeman from Mississippi, discusses his proposed resolutions that would bar the RNC from spending money on Trump’s legal bills.
The Agenda:
—Getting back to the RNC’s roots
—Electing Lara Trump
—Did Ronna McDaniel get what she deserved?
—Speaking out against Trump
—Concerns about an RNC purge
Show Notes:
-Super Tuesday coverage from The Dispatch
-Watch the interview on our YouTube channel
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3/5/2024 • 49 minutes, 47 seconds
Nat Cons and Gen Z
David Brog, executive director of the Maccabee Task Force, joins Jamie to discuss the October 7 attacks on Israel, anti-Israeli sentiment on college campuses, and his experience organizing national conservative conferences.
The Agenda:
—Young Americans increasingly support Palestinians
—The impact of critical race theory
—Brog’s time at the Edmund Burke Foundation
—Debating America’s foreign involvement
—The future of national conservatism
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3/4/2024 • 44 minutes, 55 seconds
Countdown Until Super Tuesday | Interview: Nikki Haley
Former South Carolina Gov. and GOP candidate Nikki Haley joins David Drucker to discuss why she's still in the race, why her voters aren't committed to voting for Trump if she drops out, and how the GOP has changed from its small government roots.
The Agenda:
- In what direction is the party going
-Bloated government under Republicans
-America's relationship with Putin
-Why Trump won't win the primary
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3/1/2024 • 41 minutes, 10 seconds
The Trials of Donald Trump, Explained | Roundtable x Collision
Donald Trump's trials represent an unprecedented clash of American politics and law. To make sense of the madness, The Dispatch launched The Collision newsletter, written by Sarah Isgur and Mike Warren. With the ex-president's multiple cases crawling through the courts, Sarah and Mike (and a spice-addled Jonah) compare the legal arguments of the different trials, break down the possible timelines, and consider the political ramifications of this mess we're in.
The Agenda:
—SCOTUS hearing Trump’s immunity case
—The lawfare argument
—Majorities can be wrong
—Alvin Bragg’s hush money case
—Different rules for elites
—Dead to rights on obstruction
—Georgia on their mind
—Biden impeachment update
Show Notes:
—The Collision newsletter
—Liam Neeson does improv
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3/1/2024 • 1 hour, 12 minutes, 51 seconds
The Future of the Conservative Movement | Live Roundtable
Sarah is joined by Steve, Jonah, and Mike for a live roundtable on the future of the Republican Party at the Principles First Summit in D.C..
The Agenda:
—Why do we keep talking about the primary?
—South Carolina's foreshadowing
—Rebuilding the sane GOP faction
—Advice for Joe Biden
—Primary reform, viable third parties, or term limits
—Live Q&A
Show Notes:
—Watch this episode on YouTube
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2/27/2024 • 57 minutes, 15 seconds
Is North Korea Preparing for War? | Interview: Nicholas Eberstadt
Jamie is joined by Nicholas Eberstadt, a political economist at the American Enterprise Institute, to explain the recent fear that North Korea is preparing for war.
The Agenda:
—The ideological shift in North Korea
—Shifting American policy
—China's power over North Korea
—Giving Kim Jong-un credit
—North Korea's prognosis
—Where will we be in 25 years?
Show Notes:
—38 North: Is Kim Jong Un Preparing for War?
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2/26/2024 • 37 minutes, 23 seconds
What We're Paying for in Ukraine | Explainer: Mark Cancian
Mark Cancian, senior adviser with CSIS International Security Program, joins Mary to discuss the ongoing battle for aid to Ukraine and its intersection with U.S. defense capabilities and stockpiles.
The Agenda:
-Breaking down the quantity and quality of aid provided by the U.S. to Ukraine
-Where Ukraine would be without the U.S.
-Does the U.S. need to provide continuous aid?
-Maintaining stockpiles
-Is the stalled supplemental aid package DOA?
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2/24/2024 • 36 minutes, 45 seconds
Bring Back Political Factions | Roundtable
Mike is joined by Steve, Jonah, and Chris to set expectations for the primary in South Carolina.
Become a Dispatch member to join Steve, Jonah, and others in a special live panel marking the second anniversary of the war in Ukraine.
The Agenda:
—Haley and Trump in South Carolina
—We need more factionalism
—Haley keeps on trucking
—The Republican Party doesn’t want Reaganites
—Kari Lake vs. McCain family
—Did the “Biden crime family” narrative just implode?
—Is CPAC worth our time?
Show Notes:
—Jonah's G-File on ranking presidents
—Subscribe to The Collision for more reporting on Trump's indictments
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2/23/2024 • 1 hour, 10 minutes, 17 seconds
Is the Republican Party Worth It? | Interview: Rep. Dan Crenshaw
Jamie is joined by Rep. Dan Crenshaw to discuss the state of U.S. foreign policy and why he isn't overly concerned by a second Trump term.
The Agenda:
—Israel's move into southern Gaza
—How we should view Qatar
—Bipartisan support for Ukraine aid
—Has Ukraine achieved a strategic victory?
—The death of Alexei Navalny
—The state of the GOP and Tucker Carlson
—Concerns over a second Trump term
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2/19/2024 • 48 minutes, 8 seconds
MAGA vs. NATO | Roundtable
Sarah, Steve, and Jonah break down the GOP’s divisions over Russia and the debate between interventionism versus isolationism.
The Agenda:
-Takeover of the MAGA youth
-Realignment in parties
-Replacing George Santos
-Hur report and advising Biden
-Person, Woman, Man, Camera, TV
-Super Bowl kayfabes
Show Notes:
-Stephen Hayes: Rand Paul, Russian Stooge
-Kevin Williamson: The Full Duranty
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2/16/2024 • 1 hour, 5 minutes, 18 seconds
How Drudge Broke the News | Interview: Chris Moody
Jamie is joined by Chris Moody, a journalism professor at Appalachian State University and the host of the Finding Matt Drudge podcast, to explore the career of Matt Drudge and the imprint he's left on American news media.
The Agenda:
—The birth of a rumor
—Who runs the Drudge Report?
—Drudge's betrayal of Trump
—Getting that Drudge link
—The vanishing
Show Notes:
-Watch this episode on YouTube
—Finding Matt Drudge on Apple Podcasts
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2/12/2024 • 34 minutes, 54 seconds
Lankford Hates His Job | Roundtable
Steve rejoins the Dispatch Podcast roundtable with Sarah, Mike, and John to discuss the behind-the-scenes discussions that killed the border deal and the D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals’ rejection of Donald Trump’s claims of presidential immunity.
The Agenda:
—Does the GOP want to solve the border crisis?
—Nikki Haley is having fun out there
—How SCOTUS will treat Trump’s case
—Quasi Moon Named Zuzvi
—“Conservative curious” writer and Sarah’s New Yorker piece
Show Notes:
-Kelefa Sanneh's piece on George Strait
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2/9/2024 • 1 hour, 2 minutes, 58 seconds
A Libertarian's Journey to Trump | Interview: J.W. Verret
J.W. Verret, an associate professor at George Mason University, joins Jamie to discuss his recent Wall Street Journal op-ed—entitled "From ‘Never Trump’ to ‘Encore’"—which details how he went from endorsing Joe Biden in 2020, supporting Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis in this year’s GOP primary, and ultimately backing Donald Trump’s reelection.
The Agenda:
—DEI in the military
—Anti-cryptocurrency on the left
—Inflation and a ballooning national debt
—The crisis at the border
—Trump's threat to our institutions
Show Notes:
—Verret's profile at George Mason
—Verret's profile at The Federalist Society
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2/5/2024 • 39 minutes, 10 seconds
The Taylor Swift Grift | Roundtable
Jonah and Mike join Sarah for an episode-long digression about Taylor Swift.
The Agenda:
—Tech CEOs at Congress
—Regulating children's access to social media
—Performance vs. results at the border
—Trump says the quiet part out loud
—Immigration in psychological terms
—The Taylor Swift conspiracy theories
—The issue with Benny Johnson
—Why Trump should demonize Taylor Swift
—Not Worth Your Time Extended
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2/2/2024 • 1 hour, 10 minutes, 42 seconds
Escaping the Victim Pyramid | Interview: AG Hamilton
Pseudonymous commentator and writer AG Hamilton joins Jamie to discuss the cultural issues in the Republican Party and the media-hungry politicians making everything worse.
The Agenda:
-In memoriam of Ron DeSantis’ presidential bid
-Left-wing agendas
-Media bias
-What would AG do to fix everything
-Worst pundits
-AG’s favorite author is Jonah Goldberg
Show Notes:
-AG Hamilton on X (formerly known as Twitter)
-AG Hamilton on Substack
-RNC Moving to Declare Trump Its Presumptive Nominee
-Trump Backs Off ‘Presumptive Nominee’ RNC Pressure Campaign
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1/29/2024 • 42 minutes, 42 seconds
Can We Call It Quits? | Roundtable
Donald Trump has won Iowa and New Hampshire, but is Nikki Haley waiting until Super Tuesday before calling it quits? Sarah, Jonah, John, Steve, and David (Drucker) discuss the Haley campaign’s game plan heading into South Carolina:
The Agenda:
— RNC Moving to Declare Trump Its Presumptive Nominee
— Trump’s veepstakes
— Cui bono? Trump.
— Coalition building and the politics of subtraction
— The loyalty of the Trump base
— Imagining a post-liberal and post-constitutional world
— Voting by gut desires
— Biden losing populist voters
— No Labels, no future?
Show Notes:
— Wednesday’s Morning Dispatch
— Mike and David’s reporting on Haley
— WSJ: From ‘Never Trump’ to ‘Encore’
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1/26/2024 • 1 hour, 13 minutes, 48 seconds
Dispatch Live Unlocked: Nikki's Night in New Hampshire
Nikki didn’t pull an upset Tuesday night but what’s next for her campaign? Mike Warren joins Declan Garvey and Steve Hayes from Haley HQ to discuss her remarks through primary night. John McCormack reports from South Carolina on what voters are saying in the former governor’s home state while Andrew Egger gives an update from a Biden/Harris campaign event. David Drucker joins us from Trump HQ with the expected celebratory fanfare from that event, and Chris Stirewalt joins in the end to give his analysis on how Nikki can stay in the race as the GOP pick.
Click here to watch the livestream.
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1/24/2024 • 1 hour, 3 minutes, 7 seconds
The Far Left vs. Biden
Democratic strategist David Axelrod joins Jamie to discuss Donald Trump’s seemingly secured GOP victory and what Biden’s strategy should be moving forward.
The Agenda:
-DeSantis’ future
-Waiting on New Hampshire
-Biden alternatives
-Activist base voting for “Genocide Joe”
-Axelrod on natural politicians
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1/22/2024 • 28 minutes, 35 seconds
Did Americans Ever Really Care About Policy? | Roundtable
Sarah, Steve, Jonah, John, and Mike Warren look ahead to the New Hampshire primary and the chances for a Haley-DeSantis upset.
The Agenda:
-Why people still vote for Donald Trump
-The appetite for No Labels (McConaughey/Hanks ticket?)
-The geriatric rematch
-The Houthis, Pakistan, and Iran
-The Jewish ripples
-Beer brats redux: definitely worth your time
Show Notes:
-New Hampshire live event
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1/19/2024 • 1 hour, 8 minutes, 56 seconds
Dispatch Live Unlocked: On the Ground in Iowa and New Hampshire
Steve Hayes and Sarah Isgur kicked off our Iowa conversation with Republican strategist and Iowa guru David Kochel. The three give a play-by-play of the issues plaguing the American people before diving into the GOP candidates’ helpless caucus attempts. Andrew, Chris and Kevin join the stream to answer the question we’re all wondering: Do the Iowa results even matter? Jonah joins for a hot second to give his take on the voters having too much power and David (Drucker) and Mike join in the last half to talk about Nikki Haley and Ron DeSantis’ ground campaigns.
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1/16/2024 • 1 hour, 13 minutes, 18 seconds
The Bubba Vote | Interview: David "Mudcat" Saunders
Self-described rural advocate and democrat strategist David “Mudcat” Saunders joins Jamie to discuss the issues concerning bubba voters.
The Agenda:
-Who would Mudcat vote for?
-Haley as a uniter
-Evangelicals
-Calls from Paul Manafort and Steve Bannon
-Bring manufacturing back?
-Mudcat’s thoughts on Rich Men of North of Richmond
-Democrat conventions and all hell breaking loose
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1/15/2024 • 38 minutes, 41 seconds
The Iowa Chill | Roundtable
A bundled-up and quivering Andrew joins Sarah, Steve, and Jonah from freezing Iowa.
The Agenda:
—It’s really friggin’ cold in Iowa
—Trumpworld turning its attention to Haley
—Does the U.S. have a strategy for Yemen?
—Trump’s political yays and legal woes
—We almost made it to 250 years of self government...
—Can the president give an illegal order?
—Sarah’s trap
Show Notes:
–Jonah's G-File
–Join The Dispatch to catch up on Sarah and Steve's high steaks bet
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1/12/2024 • 1 hour, 20 minutes, 23 seconds
Welcome to the 2024 Elections | Interview: Ben Jacobs
Political reporter Ben Jacobs examines the state of the Republican primary and explains the different strategies that Donald Trump’s opponents have embraced in hopes of dethroning him. Also:
—Why caucuses are unfair;
—Jamie’s caucus speech; and
—The idiosyncratic choices of Iowa voters.
Show Notes:
-Watch this episode on our YouTube channel
-Nature of Trump's campaign broadly
-Article about Speech for Jim Gilmore
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1/8/2024 • 35 minutes, 54 seconds
Blame the Voters? | Roundtable
It’s officially an election year, and Donald Trump seems to be running away with the Republican nomination. Morose and resigned, Sarah, Steve, and Jonah discuss:
—Steve and Sarah’s ‘high steaks’ 2024 election bet
—Jonah’s campaign advice to GOP candidates
—Claudine Gay’s plagiarism
—What a certain former Trump administration official thinks isn’t worth your time
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1/5/2024 • 1 hour, 6 minutes, 20 seconds
Going After Harvard Corp. | Interview: Harvey Mansfield
Political philosopher and former Harvard professor Harvey Mansfield joins Jamie to trace the academic roots of wokeness. Also:
—The plagiarism accusations against Harvard President Claudine Gay;
—Trump, Biden, or the alternatives; and
—Campaigns against grade inflation.
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1/2/2024 • 38 minutes
Sniffing Out Advocacy
Princeton professor Robert P. George says it’s up to the faculty to save universities. He joins Jamie to explain the issues with our campuses, including:
-punishing free speech
-abstract advocacy versus threats
-banning the bad stuff
-the long march through institutions
-the trustees not saving the universities
-Claudine Gay’s plagiarism accusations
Show Notes:
-Robert P. George's profile at Princeton
-Robert P. George's X profile
-Watch this episode on YouTube
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12/26/2023 • 47 minutes, 56 seconds
Florida Man Blocked From Colorado Ballots | Roundtable
Sarah, Steve, and Jonah react to Trump being removed from Colorado ballots. Plus:
—The William Baude argument
—The end of Nikki-mentum
—Measuring the vibes on Biden’s youth support
—Claudine Gay’s “duplicative language”
—Steve’s tap dance rant
—Small interactions, large impact.
Show notes:
—Advisory Opinions on the Colorado Supreme Court decision
—Justin Amash’s tweet
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12/22/2023 • 1 hour, 5 minutes, 14 seconds
Ukraine on the Brink | Interview: Tim Mak
Tim Mak, founder of The Counteroffensive, joins Jamie from Kyviv to give an update about life on the frontlines and:
-U.S. funding debate
-What victory looks like for Ukraine
-Trying Putin at The Hague
-Not even close to diplomatic talks
-What if Donald Trump becomes president again?
-How to talk about your Republican uncle about Ukraine
-Marshall law pushing off elections
Show Notes:
-Watch this interview on YouTube
-Tim Make's X profile
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12/18/2023 • 37 minutes, 25 seconds
TEASER: An Israeli and Palestinian Talk Gaza | Dispatch Live
In this preview from our members-only livestream, John Aziz joins Adaam and Mike to talk about his reflection on escalating suffering, persistent support for Hamas, and aspirations for peace.
This conversation is part of our members-only podcast hub called The Skiff.
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12/17/2023 • 10 minutes, 44 seconds
Passing the Buck on Abortion Law in Texas | Roundtable
Dispatch Senior Editor John McCormack makes his Roundtable debut with Sarah, Steve, and Mike. They cover:
—The Biden impeachment inquiry;
—House Republicans and Donald Trump 2024;
—The Haley-DeSantis war;
—The Texas abortion controversy and Republicans' unwillingness to stake out a position; and
—Proper karaoke etiquette.
Show Notes:
—Advisory Opinions on the Texas abortion case
—The Texas Supreme Court ruling
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12/15/2023 • 1 hour, 9 minutes, 41 seconds
When America Is Weak | Interview: John Bolton
Former National Security Adviser John Bolton joins Jamie to discuss how the Israel-Hamas war affects U.S. national security, his time in the Trump administration, and the future of American democracy.
Show notes:
-Video version
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12/11/2023 • 32 minutes, 49 seconds
Sleepwalking Into Autocracy | Interview: Liz Cheney
What would a second Trump presidency mean for American democracy? Former GOP Rep. Liz Cheney is raising the alarm in her upcoming book Oath and Honor, A Memoir and a Warning, and she joins Steve Hayes to discuss:
-Trump’s Army
-Mike Johnson’s unconstitutional turn
-Why Trump’s return to power could spell the death of the republic
-Liz for President?
Show Notes:
-Watch this episode on our YouTube channel
-Where Are All the Anti-Trump Republicans?
-Opinion | Robert Kagan: How to stop the Trump dictatorship
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12/9/2023 • 34 minutes, 29 seconds
So You're Saying There's a New Sheriff In Town? | Roundtable
Sarah, Steve, and Jonah rank the winners and losers of Wednesday's GOP primary debate and vent about the embarrassing failure of the elite university presidents to denounce calls for genocide against the Jews. Also:
-Kevin McCarthy’s retirement
-The loser caucus
-Trump's plans for a second term
-Contemplating the end of America
-Sarah explains the first rule of apologies
-University presidents smirk at genocide
-The value of challenging views at colleges
Show Notes:
-McCarthy's strange retirement video
-G-File: Antisemitism Is Just a Symptom
-Kash Patel: "We're going to come after you."
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12/8/2023 • 1 hour, 5 minutes, 45 seconds
Is It Too Late for Two States? | Interview: Shadi Hamid
Shadi Hamid is a member of the Washington Post editorial board, co-host of Wisdom of Crowds, and author of The Problem of Democracy: America, the Middle East, and the Rise and Fall of an Idea. He joins Jamie to debate whether the United States should pressure Israel to push for a ceasefire, if there's hope to rebuild Gaza with Hamas still in power, and what the realistic paths are for a lasting solution between Israelis and Palestinians.
Show Notes:
-Shadi Hamid's profile at the Washington Post
-Shadi's vision for a ceasefire
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12/4/2023 • 1 hour, 11 minutes, 33 seconds
Working in Congress Sucks | Roundtable
Sarah, Steve, and Jonah take a break from the typical roundtable punditry to get a little more big picture. How do we fix Congress? What does the Israel-Hamas hostage swap mean for the future of the war? Should you lie to your kids for the sake of certain holiday traditions? Has feminism cost us Thanksgiving? All that and:
—Congressional term limits
—Expanding the House of Representatives
—Repealing Citizens United
—Easy answers to the Israel-Hamas War
—Biden’s endorsement of a ceasefire
—Elf on the shelf: literally 1984?
Show notes:
-Thursday's Morning Dispatch
-George Will: Restoration: Congress, Term Limits and the Recovery of Deliberative Democracy
-Jonah: George Will Called Me An Idiot
-Restoring the Guardrails of Democracy
-Jay Cost on The Remnant
-Jonathan Martin: To Departing House Members
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12/1/2023 • 1 hour, 9 minutes, 28 seconds
The Christie Doctrine | Interview: Chris Christie
What would be the foreign policy of a Chris Christie administration? The GOP candidate and former governor joins Jamie to discuss Israel's war with Hamas, Henry Kissinger's influence, the threat of China invading Taiwan, and whether Donald Trump is going to prison.
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11/30/2023 • 37 minutes, 2 seconds
When Journalists Go Along with Hamas
Author and journalist Matti Friedman was working for The Associated Press when he noticed a persistent bias in coverage: for the Western media, the region was a simple narrative of good and evil, and Israel was cast as villain. Matti joins Jamie to discuss how this narrative formed and whether there's hope for serious journalism in such a conflict.
Show Notes:
-An Insider’s Guide to the Most Important Story on Earth
-What the Media Gets Wrong About Israel
-You're All Israel Now
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11/27/2023 • 1 hour, 5 minutes, 27 seconds
A Party in Trump's Image
Andrew Egger is joined by Patrick Ruffini, a Republican pollster and co-founder of Echelon Insights. The two discuss the shift in non-white voting habits, how Trump activated the populist coalition on the right, and the role of pro-life politics in that coalition.
Show notes:
-New York Times/Siena Poll
-Patrick Ruffini's profile at Echelon Insights
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11/22/2023 • 37 minutes, 53 seconds
Trump's Retribution
The New York Times political correspondent Maggie Haberman tells Jamie that a second Trump will be defined by unfettered score settling.
-Trump's social media strategy
-Bannon friction
-Trump/Carlson 24?
-Trump's totalitarian rhetoric
-The trials are happening
-Mass deportation and other policy agenda
Show Notes:
-New York Times Sienna Poll
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11/20/2023 • 34 minutes, 54 seconds
Oh No
Osama Bin Laden’s manifesto justifying 9/11 went viral on social media and on today’s Dispod, Sarah, Jonah, and Mike discuss how we got here before turning to:
-Xi Jinping’s trip to San Francisco
-China’s social media pysop
-The pandas on loan
-Reports from the IDF hospital siege in Gaza
-Power tools, yay or nay?
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11/17/2023 • 1 hour, 2 seconds
Civil War in Trumpworld
Jonathan Karl saw the chaos, vengeance, and factional warfare bubbling within Donald Trump's political empire and reported it in his new book Tired of Winning, which is out today. Declan, who worked on research for the book, meets up with Jonathan to discuss the internecine drama, Bannon gossip, the dangers of 2024, and the process of reporting on Trump world.
Show Notes:
-Buy Tired of Winning on Amazon
-Karl's Dispod interview on Trump's Final Days
-Karl's Dispod interview on Front Row Seat
-"I Am Your Retribution" speech
-Trump as a wedding crasher
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11/14/2023 • 55 minutes, 19 seconds
Out of Islamism, into Nationalism
Jamie is joined by Ben Judah, a senior fellow at the Atlantic Council's Europe Center and the author of This is Europe: The Way We Live Now. The two discuss the future of Saudi Arabia and it's royal family, the crown prince's attempts to modernize the House of Saud, and the future for Jews in Europe.
Show notes:
-Ben Judah's profile at the Atlantic Council
-This is Europe: The Way We Live Now
-Judah: Sauda Arabia's empire of sand
-Roger Cohen: For Europe’s Jews, a World of Fear
-The Atlantic: Is It Time for the Jews to Leave Europe?
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11/13/2023 • 40 minutes, 51 seconds
Live from New York: Steve and Jonah Drink and React
In this inebriated live recording, Jonah and Steve take over a Manhattan bar to talk Ron DeSantis, Nikki Haley, and the unhinged candidate making good on his promises. The two go back and forth on whether the GOP debates actually matter, and Steve gives Jonah a rare compliment. For the full discussion which include a Q/A portion with members, subscribe to The Skiff CLICK HERE to get your personal feed.
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11/9/2023 • 45 minutes, 27 seconds
Israel's Ghost Towns
Graeme Wood is in Israel to report on the aftermath of the October 7 atrocities for The Atlantic. He joins Jamie to share his impressions of Israel from before and after the attack, including:
-records (and recordings) of the pogrom
-the alienation between the Israeli state and the Israeli people
-the participation ultra-Orthodox Jews in the war effort
-the Hamas/ISIS comparison
-civilian deaths in Gaza
Show Notes:
-Graeme Wood's profile at The Atlantic
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11/6/2023 • 41 minutes, 53 seconds
Trump Davidians
Sarah, Steve and Jonah welcome Jamie Weinstein, who'll be taking over the Monday Dispatch Podcast. They discuss:
-Pence’s dazzling personality
-2024 GOP check-in
-Mike Johnson’s speakership win
-Dems for Dean?
-The death of the social justice movement
-Antisemitism on the rise
Show Notes:
-Sarah and Steve interview Mike Pence
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11/3/2023 • 1 hour, 15 minutes
So, About International Law
Jamie Weinstein begins his tenure as host of Monday Dispatch Podcasts with a discussion with Jeremy Rabkin. Rabkin, a professor of law at the Antonin Scalia Law School at George Mason University, explains what exactly international law is and how it's relevant (or irrelevant) to Israel's war against Hamas.
-Law without Nations?: Why Constitutional Government Requires Sovereign States
-Rabkin's profile at GMU
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10/30/2023 • 28 minutes, 19 seconds
Trump Rising
Disclaimer: In this episode, which was recorded Thursday morning, we speculated about the delay in U.S. military response to provocations from Iran. By the time the episode released, news broke that the U.S. forces had struck Iranian targets in Syria.
The House finally has a speaker ... and he’s one of the architects of Trump’s attempt to steal the 2020 election. Sarah is joined by Steve and Mike Warren to explain who Rep. Mike Johnson is and what his speakership means for Trump’s hold on our politics. Also:
-Plea deals for Trump associates
-Joe Biden has a challenger?
-Pro-Hamas Democrats
-Jewish students harassed at Cooper Union
-“Reproductive freedom means Palestinian freedom”
-Qatar’s influence on college campuses
-Why institutions matter
-Iran’s real escalation
Show notes:
-Collision newsletter
-Betrayal: The Final Act of the Trump Show
-Video of Jewish students harassed at Cooper Union
-The Free Press: Qatar’s War for Young American Minds
-Twitter thread on Jake Sullivan's Foreign Affairs essay
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10/27/2023 • 1 hour, 5 minutes, 6 seconds
The Old Rules Don't Apply: Israel at War
How did the 10/7 massacre change the Middle East? What's Israel hoping to achieve in a ground invasion of Gaza? Are the Israel-Saudi normalization talks dead? Are we giving enough thought to the day after the war? Dr. Robert Satloff, executive director of the Washington Institute and its Howard P. Berkowitz chair in U.S. Middle East Policy, joins Dispatch senior producer Adaam to talk Middle East geopolitics. Also: an aside on "from the river to the sea."
Show Notes:
-Dr. Robert Satloff on Twitter/X (highly recommended to all you geopolitics fiends)
-Satloff: Regime Change, Israeli Style
-Satloff: thoughts on a post-Hamas Gaza
-Hamas' from-the-river-to-the-sea "solution" (MEMRI)
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10/25/2023 • 55 minutes, 42 seconds
McKay Coppins on Mitt Romney
Steve and Sarah sit down at Dispatch HQ with McKay Coppins, a staff writer at The Atlantic and author of the forthcoming Romney: A Reckoning, a biography of Mitt Romney's political career. Coppin's unique access to the soon-to-be-retired Senator turns a traditional political biography into a near-psychological thriller covering Romney's torment after losing the 2012 presidential election, the psychic currency of a senate seat, and his vote to convict Donald Trump.
Show notes:
-Get The Skiff feed to listen to Steve's extra question
-Steve's extra question
-McKay Coppins profile at The Atlantic
-Romney: A Reckoning
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10/23/2023 • 1 hour, 12 minutes, 10 seconds
War In Israel: Hamas Took Her Sister
Adva's sister, Tamar, was at the Nova music festival in southern Israel. Tamar is still missing after the 7/10 massacre. Adva generously spoke to The Dispatch about her efforts to get more information, the shock, and life after the horror.
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10/20/2023 • 30 minutes, 20 seconds
War and Lies in Gaza
Sarah, Steve, Chris, and David French discuss the war an Israel as a ground invasion of Gaza seems imminent and Western media spreads disinformation about a deadly blast in a Gaza hospital. The roundtable then turns to the House speaker race, this time giving the topic appropriately-lengthed shrift. Also:
-Illusion of Israel’s invincibility
-Information warfare
-The power of confirmation bias
-Trump's praise of Hezbollah
-Can Republicans be united?
-Matt Gaetz and the Seven Dwarves
-Worth Your Time (?): Zero-turn lawnmowers
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10/19/2023 • 1 hour, 7 minutes, 8 seconds
The Doug Burgum Candidacy
Economy, energy, and national security are the three major platforms Governor Doug Burgum is running on for his GOP presidential bid. Burgum joins David on The Dispatch Podcast to talk about the state of his campaign and:
-Israel-Hamas war
-Regimes going nuclear
-World War III prospects
-Pulling out of Afghanistan
-Containing China and US policy to help Taiwan
-Energy policy
-State of Burgum’s campaign
-Ignore national polls?
-Trump lost the election
-January 6th outlook
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10/16/2023 • 42 minutes, 51 seconds
Axis of A-Holes
It's day six since the massacre in Israel and Sarah, Steve, Jonah, and David French are in it for a somber episode. They discuss:
-Bad allies
-Two-state solutionism
-What is Hamas' goal?
-Biden's Iran hostage deal
-Anti-zionism vs. antisemitism
-The left's cultural credibility
-America's role
-The ethics of sharing snuff videos
-The House is a mess
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10/13/2023 • 1 hour, 5 minutes, 43 seconds
Rep. Buck: No Moral Fortitude in Speaker’s Race
In between voting for House speaker, Representative Ken Buck joins Steve and Declan to talk about House politics, GOP reluctance to acknowledge who won the 2020 election, and whether an honest speaker can yet be found. Plus:
-Buck’s relationship with GOP colleagues
-Scalise not wanting to bring wrath of MAGA base
-Jordan and Scalise voted to decertify elections
-Why Buck voted for McCarthy in the 15-round melee in January
-Will colleagues support reform? (Spoiler: no)
Show Notes:
-Watch this episode on YouTube
-Sarah Isgur: It's Time to Amend the Constitution
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10/11/2023 • 27 minutes, 46 seconds
Worried About Inequality? Fix Marriage.
Melissa Kearney, a professor of economics at the University of Maryland joins Assistant Editor Luis Parrales to talk about her new book, The Two-Parent Privilege: How Americans Stopped Getting Married and Started Falling Behind. The two discuss the decline in married households over the past decades, how that decline has exacerbated inequality and negatively impacted parents and children, and why it’s so controversial to talk about marriage as a policy matter in the first place.
Show notes:
-Melissa’s profile at the University of Maryland
-Melissa’s profile at Brookings
-A Driver of Inequality That Not Enough People Are Talking About
-Male Earnings, Marriageable Men, and Nonmarital Fertility: Evidence from the Fracking Boom
-The Puzzle of Falling US Birth Rates Since the Great Recession
-Race and Economic Opportunity in the United States: An Intergenerational Perspective
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10/9/2023 • 40 minutes, 47 seconds
Bad Vibes at the Border
Sarah left The Dispatch Podcast and now there's no speaker of the House. What went wrong? Steve and Jonah join the flagship host's return to discuss the speakership battle, Joe Biden's Trump-era border wall, and corruption writ large. Also:
-Small dollar donor problems
-Democratic blame game
-Anti-transparency in government
-There's a secret speaker??
-Trump and Menendez corruption inquiries
-The return of Not Worth Your Time
Show notes:
-Jonah's G-File on government transparency
-Rep. Matt Gaetz on ABC This Week
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10/6/2023 • 1 hour, 12 minutes, 16 seconds
The Future of the Pro-Life Movement
Jon Schweppe, policy director at the American Principles Project, joins Andrew to discuss the state of the pro-life movement: political uncertainty, mixed messaging, states rights, and next steps.
Show Notes:
Jon's profile at the American Principles Project
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10/2/2023 • 23 minutes, 54 seconds
Members Only: America's Classless Society
A sneak peek from our regular members-only Dispatch Live discussion: Kevin, Chris, and Jonah discuss elites versus elitism and America's increasing decline from authenticity. The conversations was spurred by Chris' piece on America's classless society.
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10/1/2023 • 24 minutes, 51 seconds
Are We Doomed Yet?
Making sense of the latest carnival of inanity posing as a presidential debate is a task too great for Steve and Jonah. So they have summoned the fabled (and bingo'd) Yuval Levin, director of social, cultural and constitutional studies at AEI, to help them analyze the GOP primary debate, rank pre-government shutdown asininity, and determine whether we should even be paying attention at all.
Show Notes:
-Yuval Levin's profile at the American Enterprise Institute
-Watch our pre-debate discussion featuring Kevin, Jonah, and Chris (Members only)
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9/29/2023 • 1 hour, 12 minutes, 24 seconds
On the Brink of a Government Shutdown
GOP hardliners aren’t negotiating with House Speaker Kevin McCarthy, as government shutdown looms. Government Relations Strategist Liam Donovan joins The Dispatch to break down how we got here and:
-Ukraine’s funding
-Senate pushing a Continuing Resolution to stave off a shutdown
-McCarthy’s House resistance
-Gaetz pushing for a betrayal
Show Notes:
-Watch this episode on YouTube
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9/26/2023 • 31 minutes, 28 seconds
Shut It All Down (Dispatch Politics Takeover)
The general incompetence of GOP's leadership has prompted a Dispatch Politics coup of today's Dispod. Mike hosts as David and Andrew join to discuss the shutdown fiasco, voters perceptions of GOP candidates, and John Fetterman's depression wear.
Show Notes:
-Watch this episode on YouTube
-Real Clear Politics 2024 Iowa Republican Presidential Caucus
-CNN Poll: Trump leads in New Hampshire while Ramaswamy, Haley, Christie and DeSantis battle for second
-Wednesday's Dispatch Politics newsletter
-Real Clear Politics General Election: Trump vs. Biden
-62% of New Yorkers say Biden unfit for another term
-Biden takes on Trump and age questions in new fundraiser speech
-Drucker's interview with Senator Tom Cotton
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9/22/2023 • 1 hour, 7 minutes, 36 seconds
Cotton to Biden: Send More Support to Ukraine
Sen. Tom Cotton joins The Dispatch Podcast and pushes back against the growing GOP opposition to sending aid to Ukraine. David Drucker also asks Cotton his thoughts on:
-U.S.-China policy
-Dealing with Iran
-McConnell's current aptitude
Show Notes:
-Watch this episode on YouTube
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9/18/2023 • 39 minutes, 41 seconds
Members Only: The GOP Flirts With Civil War
A quick preview from our regular members-only Dispatch Live discussion: Kevin, Steve, Drucker, and Grayson discuss the right's embrace of violent rhetoric and the disputed value of Mike Pence's last-minute anti-populist turn. (Steve, a few Spanish wine glasses in, gets extra ranty... you've been warned.)
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9/16/2023 • 23 minutes, 44 seconds
Putin's Bromance
A perfect storm of congressional battles has formed over the upcoming legislative session, just as the grown ups are leaving. Mike is joined by Steve and Jonah to discuss the impeachment inquiry into Joe Biden and:
-Biden’s problematic Iranian prisoner deal
-Kim Jong Un and Putin now BFFs?
-Biden needs a nap
Show notes:
-The Morning Dispatch: A Rogue State Visit
-Jonathan Martin and Alexander Burns: This Will Not Pass
-The Dispatch Podcast with Martin and Burns
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9/15/2023 • 1 hour, 6 minutes, 35 seconds
Ken Paxton's Impeachment Trial
Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton has been dodging accusations of malfeasance for years, but now they might be catching up with him.
Show Notes:
-Kel Seliger's biography
-Oprah sued for defamation in Amarillo
-Food libel laws
-Kevin's article on Paxton impeachment
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9/10/2023 • 38 minutes, 49 seconds
The Election Nobody Asked For
Many polls are telling the same story: Americans don’t want either Joe Biden or Donald Trump for president. And yet a rematch seems all but inevitable. Mike Warren is joined by Steve, Jonah, and Chris Stirewalt to commune in despair. Plus:
-Pence’s overdue attack on populism
-Great white sharks with Hitler’s brain
-Eric Adams: migrant issue ‘will destroy New York City’
-9/11 anniversary and easy explanations
Show notes:
–CNN Polling on a Biden vs. Trump rematch
–You need to calm down, Democratic pollsters argue – Semafor
–Most Americans say Biden is too old – The Washington Post
–TMD: The Election Nobody Wants
–Kevin Williamson’s piece on Mike Pence
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9/8/2023 • 1 hour, 5 minutes, 12 seconds
Brittle Regimes
Steve and Jonah join Mike as he takes over the host’s chair in this week’s Dispod. The trio discuss China’s version of manifest destiny and:
-Biden’s economic outreach
-Big dollar donors desperately scanning the Republican field
-Kari Lake being a loser (and proud of it)
-Mob rule of institutions
-Vivek: worth voters' time?
Show Notes:
-Jonah's China piece for The Dispatch
-Scott Lincicome’s newsletter on China
-Poll: Georgia Republicans are unusually skeptical of Trump’s 2020 actions
-David Brooks NYT column Nikki’s the one
-Steve's Animal Spirits moment
-"Not Donald Trump" NBC Poll
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9/1/2023 • 1 hour, 29 seconds
Threats and Allies in the Indo-Pacific
South Korea, Japan, and the US are facing growing tensions against North Korea and China. The trilateral relationship was on full display in a show of strength at Camp David on August. 18th.
TMD Reporter Mary Trimble speaks with Michael Beckley, an associate professor of political science at Tufts University and a non-resident senior fellow at the American Enterprise Institute, to explore the threats towards this alliance and the possible escalating conflicts in the Indo-Pacific region.
Show Notes:
-Watch this conversation on our YouTube channel
-Michael Beckley's profile
-Mary's report for The Morning Dispatch
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8/28/2023 • 32 minutes, 30 seconds
The Debate That Didn't Matter
Sarah, fully ready for her hiatus, is joined by Steve, Jonah, and Dispatch Politics reporter Audrey Fahlberg for a dispiriting recap of the first GOP primary debate. Also:
-Vivek Witherspoon's moment
-A crummy night for DeSantis
-Death of Wagner leader Prigozhin
-Biden's response to Maui
-Not Worth Your Time (?): Jonah's writing
Show notes-
-G-File: Who Will Stop Him?
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8/25/2023 • 1 hour, 2 minutes, 25 seconds
The A.I. Arms Race in Political Ads
Artificial intelligence has become a common weapon in political information warfare. The Morning Dispatch reporter, Grayson Logue, is joined by Darrell M. West, a senior fellow at the Brookings Institution and the co-editor-in-chief of TechTank, to explain the unique threat that A.I. poses.
-West's profile at Brookings
-TechTank
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8/21/2023 • 27 minutes, 39 seconds
Braindead Partisanship
Chris joins Sarah and Jonah to discuss the upcoming GOP primary debate. How much will the candidates praise the guy they're primarying? Will there be anything to talk about besides the hedonic treadmill of indictments? Can any candidate successfully be a gateway drug out of Trump? Also:
-Biden's shrinking incumbent advantage
-Republican Party as a suicide pact
-Jonah goes Schlappian on third parties
-Eric Adams vs. Joe Biden
-"Rich Men North of Richmond"
Show notes-
-Jonah's attack on small donors
-Nick Catoggio's defense of Jonah in Boiling Frogs
-Sarah's interview with No Labels on The Dispatch Podcast
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8/18/2023 • 1 hour, 58 seconds
No Labels, No Problem
Not since Abraham Lincoln has a 3rd party candidate been successful, but political nonprofit No Labels thinks the time for change is near. No Labels chief political strategist Ryan Clancy joins Sarah Isgur to discuss why he thinks there's a moderate majority in America that's ready to bust the two party system.
Show notes -
-No Labels' website
-No Labels on North Carolina ballot
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8/16/2023 • 34 minutes, 2 seconds
Wrath of the Normals
A "reserve army of voters" rejected a proposal to change the constitutional amendment process in an Ohio special election. What does the abortion proxy war for mean pro-life politics and the legacy of Dobbs? Sarah is joined by Steve and Jonah to discuss. Also:
-DeSantis campaign reset
-Will the GOP debates matter?
-Revisiting the Dean Scream
-Are adult sites worth your time?
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8/11/2023 • 1 hour, 4 minutes, 15 seconds
Israel's Constitutional Moment
Israel is undergoing a sea change. The battle over a judicial overhaul hides much deeper national schisms. The Times of Israel Senior Political Analyst Haviv Rettig Gur joins Senior Producer Adaam James Levin-Areddy to try and make sense of the mess. Will the reform fix or break Israeli democracy? Why doesn't Israel have a constitution? Why are elite military volunteers joining the protest? Does Benjamin Netanyahu have a plan? Is the Israeli left dead? Is the Israeli right broken? And what does "right and left" even mean? (Not what it means in the U.S, that's for sure!)
Show notes:
-Gur's profile at the Times of Israel
-The Morning Dispatch's latest coverage of the overhaul
-Who is Itamar Ben Gvir? (A Dispatch Podcast explainer)
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8/6/2023 • 1 hour, 8 minutes, 24 seconds
Schrödinger's Trump
Sarah, Steve, and Jonah discuss Trump's indictment for the listeners not privy to niche legal podcasts. Can special counsel prove Trump's intent? Will Trump voters care? Also:
-Addressing stupid arguments
-Jonah's grudge against lawyers
-NYT Siena Poll on Trump indictment
-Fitch downgrades our credit score
-(Not?) Worth Your Time extended
Show notes:
-The Collision newsletter
-David Brooks: What if We're the Bad Guys Here?
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8/4/2023 • 1 hour, 5 minutes, 16 seconds
Washington Is A Mess
Steve is back to monitor the Dispod as the Sarah, Mike, and David discuss Hunter Biden plea deals and GOP primary wackiness, but the conversation eventually derails into UFO territory. Tune in to hear the four discuss:
-The wackiness of the GOP primary field
-Ron DeSantis going bonkers with RFK Jr. potential appointments
-UFO marketing campaign for skeptics
Show Notes:
-Check out Mike and Sarah's Collision newsletter for The Dispatch
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7/28/2023 • 1 hour, 13 minutes, 17 seconds
Self-Abasing Gestures and Canine Loyalties
It’s the never-ending story with Trump’s ongoing legal battles, but how exactly will the latest investigation impact Trump’s 2024 campaign? Kevin Williamson and Mike Warren join Sarah Isgur to break down the latest in MAGA land and:
-Kevin McCarthy’s lack of self-respect
-Ron DeSantis, so hot right now?
-The trouble with RE-words
-Nerds throwing punches
-Barbie’s CCP map
Show Notes:
-Sarah and Mike's joint project
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7/21/2023 • 1 hour, 16 minutes, 7 seconds
Conservatives Abroad
Robert Tyler, senior policy advisory for New Direction, joins Dispatch executive editor Adam O’Neal to sample the different flavors of the European right.
-America the good, America the bad
-Is Italy's Meloni fascist?
-Fusionism and the Czech Republic
-Brexit and deregulationLike what we're doing? Please consider becoming a member of TheDispatch.com. You'll be getting a suite of newsletters (including Kevin Williamson's Wanderland, our news-breaking Dispatch Politics, and our flagship daily newsletter The Morning Dispatch), access to additional podcast episodes and exclusive shows, and be invited to members-only live Dispatch events. But most importantly: you'll be helping us keep the lights on. So if you believe in our mission, we hope you'll consider joining us.
Show Notes:
-Robert Tyler for The Dispatch
-About New Direction
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7/17/2023 • 43 minutes
Donors and Grifters
Sorry, Steve Hayes. Sarah, Jonah and Mike start with Ukraine’s request for cluster munitions and the state of NATO. Jonah cynically uses Steve's absence to flex his juvenile humor chops. Spanish wine is wildly overrated. Then:
-Pence campaign prognosis
-A scavenger hunt to get on the debate stage
-Ramaswamy's Mary Kay pyramid scheme
-Sarah on Sesame Street
-War of words and farting at RFK Jr. press dinner
-GOP leads in midterm turnout
-56% of voters think Biden took bribes
-Not worth your time (?): Zuck vs. Musk cage match
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7/14/2023 • 1 hour, 14 minutes, 55 seconds
Will Taiwan Fight?
Bonnie Glaser, managing director of the Indo-Pacific Program at the German Marshall Fund, joins Executive Director Adam O'Neal to discuss how the U.S. and China manage their differences over Taiwan. Also:
-Taiwan’s relationship with Trump and Biden
-China’s military transformation
-The significance of 2049
Show Notes:
-Bonnie Glaser's profile for the German Marshall Fund
-U.S.-Taiwan Relations: Will China's Challenge Lead to a Crisis
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7/10/2023 • 37 minutes, 10 seconds
AG Sulzberger on NYT, Objectivity, and Media Bias
The New York Times publisher A.G. Sulzberger joins Steve Hayes and Sarah Isgur in a special interview recorded from The Times' building in New York. They discuss Sulzberger's recent CJR piece on objectivity in journalism (and its discontents), digging into the historically hostile relationship between right wing media and The Times, the challenges of fighting "bias" in news, and the possible paths to rebuilding public trust in institutional journalism.
Show Notes:
-A.G Sulzberger's article for the Colombia Journalism Review
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7/5/2023 • 1 hour, 30 minutes, 4 seconds
France Riots, Explained
A deadly police shooting in Paris last week sparked days of riots across the country. Pascal-Emmanuel Gobry, a fellow at the Ethics and Public Policy Center, joins Dispatch Executive Editor Adam O’Neal to explain what led to the violence and where France will go from here.Show Notes:
-Pascal-Emmanuel Gobry's profile for at The Ethics and Public Police Center
-Reuters: France riots: Shot teenager's grandmother says violence must stop
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7/3/2023 • 26 minutes, 37 seconds
Let's Go Coup-ing
Will the Supreme Court's affirmative action decision in Harvard lead to a public backlash? What does the Coup That Wasn't tell us about Russia (and about Americans' changing perceptions of the war)? And will David French's recent New York Times piece about transgenderism in women's sports finally get him cancelled? Sarah, Jonah, and yet-uncancelled David French discuss.
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Out of context: "I think I heard Henry Kissinger making the same point."
Show Notes:
-Want the full legal analysis of SCOTUS' affirmative action decision? Check out our latest Advisory Opinions.
-David's NYT piece on the erosion of women's sports
-Jonah's G-File about isms, cultural cliches, and treat-yourself-culture
-Millennial and Gen Z economic malaise is creating a ‘treat culture’ as they turn to tiny purchases for a dose of daily escapism
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6/30/2023 • 1 hour, 5 minutes, 14 seconds
'Nuclear War? Yawn!'
The Ukraine’s counteroffensive against Russia is underway, but what would it take to bring these two nations to the negotiating table? Scholar, professor, and columnist Walter Russell Mead joins The Dispatch Executive Editor Adam O’Neal to share insights from his recent trip to Ukraine and:
-The normalcy of life while in war
-What a “successful” counteroffensive looks like
-Opportunities for US
-The end of the Russian empire and a new nation
-(Unrealistic) Theories of victory
-Engaging with nuclear adversaries
-How to get to the negotiating table
Show Notes:
-Walter Russell Mead's page at Hudson Institute
-The Arc of a Covenant available online
-Walter Russell Mead's page at Wall Street Journal
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6/26/2023 • 34 minutes, 50 seconds
A Race of Unpopulars
Steve and Jonah join Sarah to talk about Hunter Biden's plea deal, how it reflects on Joe Biden and:
-Sarah's first tattoo?
-Voters react to Hunter Biden's prosecution
-The illusory Biden tapes
-Trump's legally dubious Bret Baier interview
-Will Hurd jumps into the race
-Is RFK Jr. a sign that nature is healing?
-Biden Administration foreign policy
-Titanic submersible
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6/23/2023 • 1 hour, 7 minutes, 53 seconds
The White House Runs Through Georgia
Josh McKoon won his bid to become chairman of the Georgia GOP. McKoon inherits fractured relationships and a storied past between elected officials. Join Dispatch Politics Reporter Audrey Fahlberg for his strategy on unifying Georgia’s GOP, which includes:
-Grassroots activism and big donor capture
-Working with Kemp
-Staying neutral during primaries
-Firing Joe Biden
-Topics of concern for GOP voters: crime, inflation, America not leading on world stage
Show Notes:
-Watch: Audrey interviews Georgia GOP Chairman Josh McKoon
-Tuesday's Dispatch Politics newsletter with Audrey Fahlberg's Georgia reporting
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6/20/2023 • 24 minutes, 19 seconds
Explainer: The Politics of Classified Documents (w/ Peter Meijer)
Classified documents stored in a Mar-A-Lago bathroom will live in infamy, but it’s not the only intelligence scandal among politicians: Biden, Pence, and Hillary Clinton have also made headlines for their intelligence information.
Peter Meijer joins Mike Warren to break down the security issues with these documents and:
-There are levels to this - Classified, confidential, secret, top secret.
-Peter’s surprising insight into classified info
-Clinton, Biden, Pence, Trump: what they all have in common
-Over-classification problem?
-Online gamers and security clearances
-Trumps says “No.”
-Will Peter run again?
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6/18/2023 • 41 minutes, 45 seconds
Circle the Wagon
Sarah, Steve, and Jonah return to talk about Trump’s indictment in the Mar-a-Lago classified documents case. Also:
-Dispatch Editors: The GOP’s Trump Choice
-But her emails
-Conservatives should just say what they believe
-Biden administration violates the Hatch Act
-Pe-cahn or Pee-can
-Biden’s estranged grandchild
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6/16/2023 • 1 hour, 15 minutes, 28 seconds
Penceian Posture
Jonah invites Chris Stirewalt and Mike Warren on to analyze the state of the GOP primary field, as Mike Pence and Chris Christie officially join the race. Stay for the jocularity and:
-RNC nominee “pledge”
-Tim Scott vs. The View
-House speakership fight
-Stirewalt’s Shrimp Cocktail Crawl
-Who destroyed the Kherson dam?
-Tucker Carlson’s anti-semitic Twitter show
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6/9/2023 • 1 hour, 9 minutes, 4 seconds
Explainer: Turkey Today
President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan recently secured another election victory, leaving many in the West to question the country's diplomatic future. Dispatch Reporter Charlotte Lawson speaks with Eric Edelman, former U.S. ambassador to Turkey, Finland, and under secretary of defense for policy, to explain what's happening under the country's longest serving leader.
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6/6/2023 • 30 minutes, 47 seconds
Explainer: Do Other Candidates Stand A Chance?
It’s not over for those not named Trump or DeSantis, says GOP operative Mike Murphy. Join The Dispatch’s Mike Warren as speaks with Murphy about the candidates chances of rising in the polls and what they’re doing to fight in the 2024 election.
Show Notes:
-Mike Murphy's article for The Bulwark
-Mike Warren's article for The Dispatch
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6/4/2023 • 27 minutes, 9 seconds
Debt Deal Denouement?
Sarah, Steve, and Jonah wonder if the Biden-McCarthy deal marks a return to politics as normal, whether Tim Scott's bachelorhood will play into the election, and more:
-Nick Catoggio on DeSantis
-Brian Riedl's debt-limit deal breakdown
-Mike Pence in Iowa
-Dresscode redux
-Voters aren't happy with Biden... but they'll take him over Trump
-God's chicken goes DEI
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6/2/2023 • 1 hour, 15 minutes, 37 seconds
Debt Ceiling Countdown: An Explainer
Price St. Clair walks us through the ongoing debt ceiling fight in an interview with Ben Ritz, Director of the Center for Funding America's Future at the Progressive Policy Institute. The two discuss the nuances of the issue, including:
-Throwbacks to 2011
-Trump "caps" or lack of
-Likely (and worst case) scenarios
-No paychecks?
Show Notes
-Watch: Price St. Clair interviews Ben Ritz on The Dispatch Podcasts YouTube channel
-Ben Ritz profile at Progressive Policy Institute
-Price St. Clair's Explainer for The Dispatch
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5/26/2023 • 29 minutes, 58 seconds
Faking Empathy
The OG roundtable returns with some rank punditry on the 2024 GOP field. But first, David returns from his Ukraine trip with insight on the war effort. Also:
-DeSantis officially in the race
-Tim Scott as the candidate we don’t deserve?
-Politics of 14th amendment and debt ceiling
-Jonah’s strong (and correct) opinion on restaurant dress codes
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5/25/2023 • 1 hour, 24 minutes, 51 seconds
The Durham Split Screen
The Durham report points to serious problems in the FBI's investigation of Trump, but finds no criminal wrongdoing and recommends no systemic changes. Sarah, who worked in the White House during the Muller investigation, gives an insider's perspective, as Steve and Mike try to make sense of the fallout. Also:
-Biden and McCarthy inch towards a debt ceiling compromise
-Congress mulls AI regulations… But is the future already sealed?
Show Notes:
-Listen: Steve and Sarah interview Sen. Bill Cassidy on Entitlement Reform
-Watch: "Bill on the Hill" Cassidy
-Gov. Chris Sununu on The Dispatch Podcast
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5/19/2023 • 1 hour, 10 minutes, 14 seconds
Entitlement Reform w/ Senator Cassidy
Louisiana Senator Bill Cassidy joins Sarah and Steve to talk debt and entitlements. The doctor gives a deadly prognosis for the country’s economic (and moral?) trajectory and breaks down what his office is proposing to do about it.
Show Notes:
-Subscribe to The Dispatch and watch an exclusive live Remnant with Jonah, Steve Hayes, and Chris Stirewalt
-Watch: Bill On The Hill
-Cassidy says Biden and Trump have ‘same plan’ on Social Security, ‘which is to do nothing’
-Social Security can be saved by investing it in the stock market, says Sen. Bill Cassidy
-Refusing to Reform Social Security Is a Plan — and a Bad One
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5/14/2023 • 35 minutes, 41 seconds
Trump on Their Minds
It's been a week for the former president: new polls showing him beating President Biden, an already notorious CNN town hall, and a verdict on the E. Jean Carroll lawsuit. Sarah, Steve, and Jonah gather to collectively sigh at the seeming inevitabilities of the 2024 race, the Biden family's international dealings, and the bipartisan hypocrisies about ethics in government. Also: will someone ever take the economy seriously again?
Show notes:
-Ben Shapiro's tweet about the CNN town hall
-Biden is losing in the polls
–Subscribe to The Dispatch and watch an exclusive live Remnant with Jonah, Steve Hayes, and Chris Stirewalt
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5/11/2023 • 1 hour, 9 minutes, 47 seconds
Fake Town Halls (w/ Chris Christie)
Will he or won't he? Chris Christie joins David M. Drucker to talk about Bridgegate, his changing relationship with Trump, and what's next for the former governor.
Show Notes:
-Watch: David M. Drucker interviews Chris Christie
-Subscribe to The Dispatch and watch an exclusive live Remnant with Jonah, Steve Hayes, and Chris Stirewalt
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5/7/2023 • 37 minutes, 24 seconds
Crime and Drones
The inevitable David French joins Sarah, Steve, and Jonah to discuss the new Dune trailer... uh, I mean, this week's news, including:
-Drones over Moscow
-Is Kevin McCarthy "free at last"?
-Will we ever be able to discuss violent crime like adults? (Read Jonah's Wednesday G-File and despair)
-Is there hope for sane, centrist Senate candidates in '24? (Read Sarah's Tuesday's The Permanent Campaign and despair)
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5/5/2023 • 1 hour, 12 minutes, 52 seconds
White Flags and Olive Branches
Kevin McCarthy secured a bill raising the debt limit this week, sealing a crucial win for House Republicans. Liam Donovan, veteran government relations specialist, joins Mike to breakdown the strategy behind House leadership: from negotiations with the "Five Families" to Steve Scalise being a “bit player” for McCarthy.
Show Notes:
-Watch: Mike Warren interviews Liam Donovan
-Warren's Debt Ceiling article for The Dispatch
-Liam Donovan's Substack
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4/30/2023 • 40 minutes, 59 seconds
Bad Week for NatCons
When the crystal-worshipping lady and the anti-vax guy are getting a quarter of the democratic vote while spending no money, the possibility of a real politician rising up to challenge Biden increases. Senior editor Mike Warren debuts on the pod to help Sarah and Jonah dissect Biden's announcement and whether the future of the GOP is more Pence or Tucker. Also, a knife-brandishing Jonah responds to critics of last week's swiftly-chilled hot takes.
Show Notes:
-Watch: Steve and Sarah interview Vice President Mike Pence
-Watch: Jonah brandishes knife
-Wednesday's G-File
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4/28/2023 • 1 hour, 10 minutes, 14 seconds
Proto-Candidate Mike Pence
Fresh off the Federalist Society stage, former Vice President Mike Pence sits with Steve and Sarah to talk about his record on abortion, entitlement reform, and the evolution of the GOP under his former boss. The three debate policy issues with this non-candidate.
Show Notes:
-Watch: Steve pushes Pence on "Zombie Reaganism"
-Kentucky voters reject constitutional amendment on abortion
-Trump Presidency: A Final Assessment of the Trump Presidency
-Marlon Bundo's Day in the Life of the Vice President
-So Help Me God by Mike Pence
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4/26/2023 • 37 minutes, 28 seconds
Fox News Will Not Change
The Dominion lawsuit denouement leaves (almost) everyone feeling shortchanged. Two ex Fox News pundits and licensed attorney debate whether Fox can dig itself out of this hole. Plus:
-A march to default
-The DeSantis' EQ issue
-Trump's coming in hot with endorsements
-QR codes portend the robot takeover
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4/21/2023 • 1 hour, 5 minutes, 33 seconds
4Chan Putin Stan?
The intel leak is a serious mess... Sarah, Steve, and Jonah try to figure out just how bad things can get from here. Also:
-Gamer bros get the lowdown
-Why are Republicans fumbling on abortion?
-Tim Scott 2024... ???
Recorded Wednesday, April 12, 2023.
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4/13/2023 • 1 hour, 6 minutes, 42 seconds
DeSantis, Decider
Back from Florida, David M. Drucker published his DeSantis profile on The Dispatch this week. Now, he's joined by Marc Caputo, National Reporter at The Messenger, to discuss their respective experience covering the governor, as they attemp to grok the DeSantis playbook.
Show Notes:
-WATCH: David M. Drucker interviews Marc Caputo
-DeSantis the Decider
-Marc Caputo's Twitter
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4/8/2023 • 40 minutes, 23 seconds
Maybe Voters Are Trying To Tell You Something
Ruy Teixeira, politics editor of The Liberal Patriot, joins Sarah and Jonah to do some break down The politics of the Trump indictment, Chicago’s mayoral election, the Wisconsin’s Supreme Court race, and how the abortion factors into all of this.
Show Notes:
-The Liberal Patriot: Bragg's Indictment of Trump is Nothing to Boast About
-Subscribe to our Podcast YouTube Page
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4/7/2023 • 1 hour, 11 minutes, 9 seconds
The Left, Right, and Religious
Author and political reporter Jon Ward joins Steve Hayes in a revealing interview to talk about his book Testimony: Inside the Evangelical Movement That Failed A Generation. The two discuss the religious fervor that shaped today's Christian political environment on the right.
Also, stay tuned for our first episode of "High Steaks", a mini podcast series between Steve and Sarah on the 2024 presidential election. Dispatch members will have access to the full series, so subscribe today.
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4/2/2023 • 1 hour, 14 minutes, 39 seconds
Trump Indicted
Sarah, Jonah, and Kevin hit the recording studio when news of Trump's indictment broke Thursday evening. Join the three as they react to the hush money case and how the media covered the lead-up to the charges. Plus:
-Covenant School tragedy
-What the French protests portend for the U.S.
-ChatGPT is coming for our jobs
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3/31/2023 • 1 hour, 5 minutes, 9 seconds
Crime or Karma?
In an echo of times long past, AO host emeritus David French joins Steve, Sarah, and Jonah as part of our long game to get him canceled from his fancy new job. They discuss Trump's hush-money case, what GOP leaders are saying about the Iraq War on the anniversary of the invasion, and Buffalo Wild Wings' not-so-secret secret.
Show Notes:
-Poll: US Public Opinion in a Time of War
-Politico: Liberal Manhattan DA takes on Trump
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3/24/2023 • 1 hour, 49 seconds
Investigating January 6th
Tom Joscelyn joins Steve Hayes to talk about his time on the January 6th Select Committee and what all goes into a congressional investigation. Long-time Dispatch subscribers may know Joscelyn from his newsletter Vital Interests. Join the two as they break down the main characters behind the event and the GOP's attempt at a clean-up.
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3/22/2023 • 59 minutes, 7 seconds
Housekeeping and the Apocalypse (w/ Niall Ferguson & Martin Gurri)
It's time for a quick round of housekeeping. Adaam has exciting announcements/updates about the multimedia world of The Dispatch, followed by a bonus episode: a conversation with economic historian Niall Ferguson, author of Doom, and Martin Gurri, author of Revolt of the Public. The discussion surveys some of the many ways in which our civilization might implode (...) from bad education to nuclear annihilation. This of course raises the question, could it be Taylor Lorenz was right after all, and we're all just depressed because the world's about to end?
Show Notes
–Niall on how Cold War II can turn into World War III
-Martin’s Revolt of the Public
-Niall’s Doom
–The original (unabridged) live event with Niall and Martin, co-hosted by Vanessa Quirk for the Uncertain Things podcast
–Rand Institute on the “foundations of national competitiveness“
–Our podcasts on YouTube
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3/20/2023 • 1 hour, 9 minutes, 9 seconds
Blank Checks and Balances
Ron DeSantis takes a bold stand against theoretical "blank checks" to Ukraine. Sarah, Steve, and Jonah discuss what this says about the current GOP. Also:
-What happens now to the Silicon Valley Bank carcass
-Does Biden’s budgetary largesse mean anything
-Steve gets real about America's soul
Show Notes:
Semafor: Goldman looked to buy SVB in 2020 but talks fizzled
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3/17/2023 • 1 hour, 10 minutes, 47 seconds
The Tucker Tapes
Jonah and Steve join Sarah after a very rewarding Dispatch Meet and Greet in Denver for a reality check on all things political madness, including:
-Tucker Carlson and Kevin McCarthy’s rage-bait for right-ring folks
-A DC crime bill that had elected Democrats out of step with more left ideology
-Biden’s ESG Retirement Fund fiasco
-The true threat of China
-And, the scrubbing of popular books
Plus: Subscribe to our YouTube page for clips, video interviews, and more!
Show Notes:
Noah Rothman: Tucker Carlson's Jan 6th Revisionist History
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3/10/2023 • 1 hour, 5 minutes, 28 seconds
Back On Track with Larry Hogan
You’ve heard the rumors…then the rumors turned into headlines: Governor Larry Hogan will not seek the GOP nomination for 2024. The former Maryland Governor sits down with David Drucker to talk about the factors that led to this decision and his remedies for the GOP.
Show Notes:
-WATCH: David M. Drucker interview Larry Hogan on our new YouTube channel
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3/8/2023 • 40 minutes, 28 seconds
The Twisted World of Media Tycoons
The worlds of media tycoons are often so strange and twisted, it's hard to believe the stories aren't fiction. In Unscripted: The Epic Battle for a Media Empire and the Redstone Family Legacy, authors James B. Stewart and Rachel Abrams chronicle the dramatic story of one of the most powerful media dynasties in history. Join Steve Hayes as he interviews Stewart and Abrams on the history of the Redstone family and their rise to power.
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3/5/2023 • 38 minutes, 47 seconds
Red, Blue, and Green
Endorsements don’t matter, Fox News lied to its audience, and experts got COVID wrong. Jonah, Sarah, and Kevin give us all a reality check AND a grammar lesson.Plus: a Jonah rant on journalistic principles. If you enjoyed this conversation, join our Book Club for more presidential talk.
Show Notes:
-Sarah Isgur: The Sweep: Looking Out for No. 2
-Jonah Goldberg: Utter corruption of editorial leadership
-The 10 biggest revelations from Dominion’s explosive Fox News legal filing
-Ron DeSantis, Federalist?
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3/3/2023 • 1 hour, 13 minutes, 31 seconds
Paging Dr. Strangelove
The world's abuzz with nuclear war rhetoric as Vladmir Putin rips up a treaty limiting arms control. David Drucker speaks with Peter Rough, an expert on foreign policy from the Hudson Institute, to talk about the spector of a potential world war, the state of our defense capabilities, and why defending Ukraine might be the best way to stave off Russia from attacking the U.S.
Show Notes:
-Peter Rough, Senior Fellow at the Hudson Institute
-Turn up the heat on Putin — and show him he can’t defeat Ukraine
-U.S. four-star general warns of war with China in 2025
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2/25/2023 • 37 minutes, 30 seconds
Biden Abroad, Trump at Home
The train derailment in East Palestine, Ohio was should have been a moment for the Biden administration to publicly transcend politics. Sarah, David, and Declan wonder why this chance was frittered. Plus: between a new DeSantis bill and the Dominion lawsuit, what should we think about the state of defamation law?
Show Notes:
-Train crew had little warning before Ohio wreck, probe finds
-‘Incredibly damning:’ Fox News documents stun some legal experts
-Meet the Woke Activists behind the Roald Dahl Book Purge
-Donald Trump visits flood-ravaged Louisiana (David's mention)
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2/24/2023 • 53 minutes, 34 seconds
Floating Middle Finger
Nikki Haley is officially in the race... but is she ready to take on Trump? Steve, Sarah, and Jonah are joined by David Drucker, who was on the ground for her South Carolina launch. Plus, who’s leaking all the anti-Kamala content, and why isn’t the Biden administration answering questions about spy balloons?
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2/16/2023 • 59 minutes, 30 seconds
What's Brewing on the Horizon?
Economist Jason Furman joins Declan Garvey on this episode of the Dispatch Podcast to break down the confusing economic state of the U.S. The unemployment rate is great, the rapid pace of job growth is on an uphill trajectory, and inflation is low. But, is that too good to last? Furman breaks down the scenarios that could cause the economic successes to come to a screeching halt.
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2/11/2023 • 39 minutes, 57 seconds
Will The Real Fiscal Conservatives Please Stand Up?
With the the State of the Union in the rearview mirror, Declan and David join Sarah to break down Biden’s re-election chances and the mood of the Democratic Party. The crew also takes a look at polling between Trump & DeSantis and their sway with voters. And yes, some balloon content drops, too.
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2/10/2023 • 1 hour, 7 minutes, 37 seconds
Sad and Predictable
Join Sarah, Jonah, and Kevin as they welcome David Drucker in his debut DisPod appearance. The crew looks into the Tyre Nichols tragedy and the root causes of bad policing. They give a nod to the dog and pony show of House committee assignments and conclude with a fiery debate about Nikki Haley's presidential dreams and whether Trump admin veterans deserve the mark of Cain. Finally, Sarah highlights a few mysteries overtaking the Dallas Zoo in a Worth Your Time segment.
Show Notes:
Will Hurd: "One thing I'd love this Black History Month..."
The Dispatch: The Race to Racism
The Dispatch: Nikki Haley's Campaign-In-Waiting Starts Its Engines
Dallas Zoo monkeys found
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2/2/2023 • 55 minutes, 39 seconds
Gov. Sununu: Why New Hampshire's Different
New Hampshire Gov. Chris Sununu stops by Dispatch HQ to talk with Steve about his record, from pandemic response to school choice. With eyes towards 2024, they discuss The Granite State's role in primaries, Sununu's own presidential prospects, and his unfiltered thoughts about former president Trump.
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2/1/2023 • 1 hour, 1 minute, 59 seconds
Purge Artists
It's Jonah in the driver's seat this week as he bring along Declan and Kevin to talk about the debt ceiling mess, the over-classification of documents, and whether Ron DeSantis' all-in-on-the-culture-war approach is simply what right wing politics is going to be from now on.
Show Notes:
-The Dispatch: Debt Ceiling Coverage
-Nick Cattagio: VP MTG?
-CBS News: Why A&W put pants on its cartoon bear after M&M's spokescandies gaffe
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1/27/2023 • 58 minutes, 59 seconds
The Twitter Files Explained w/ Kmele Foster
Elon Musk opened up the secret Twitter vaults before a select group of journalists who went on to chain-tweet their findings. David French sits down with Kmele Foster, co-host of The Fifth Column podcast, to figure out whether the response to the findings should be a vociferous freak out, a tired shrug, or something more nuanced. They discuss political censorship, media spins, and Big Tech.
Show Notes:
-David French: Elon Musk and Tucker Carlson Don't Understand the First Amendment
- Kmele Foster, We The Fifth
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1/25/2023 • 1 hour, 18 minutes, 20 seconds
China's Demographic Decline
China’s population is getting older and older and analysts warn this could have significant global impact. Deputy Morning Editor of TMD Esther Eaton sits down with Scott Kennedy of the Center for Strategic and International Studies to dig into the root causes behind the country’s demographic decline and the impact this will have on economic and labor conditions.
Show Notes:
Esther Eaton's TMD Piece: China's Looming Demographic Crisis
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1/21/2023 • 27 minutes, 46 seconds
Extraordinary Measures
Sarah, Jonah and David wonder what's left of fiscal responsibility in the Republican Party as the debt-ceiling deadline hits Congress. Who’s serious about digging in and balancing the budget? Will taking on the "weaponized" beauracy make a dent? And, haven’t we been in this before? The crew also tallies which countries are providing tactical support to Ukraine (and how much). And of course, stay tuned for an extra salty Not Worth Your Time.
Show Notes:
Watch: White House Press Briefing on Debt Ceiling
Brian Riedl for The Dispatch: How Republicans Can Get Serious on Spending
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1/19/2023 • 57 minutes, 26 seconds
The Biden Files
Declan joins Sarah, David and Steve to break down President Biden’s classified documents scandal. The team then discusses McCarthy's backroom dealing, the proposed SANTOS act, and the riots in Brazil. Plus: An anatomically descriptive Worth Your Time(?) segment that made David deeply uncomfortable.
Show Notes:
The Dispatch: House GOP Moves to Messaging Bills and Investigations
Proposed Bill Text: SANTOS Act
The Atlantic: Prince Harry’s Book Undermines the Very Idea of Monarchy
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1/12/2023 • 1 hour, 12 minutes, 21 seconds
Creatures of Capitol Hill
As the House enters a third day of its parade of pettiness, Sarah, Steve, and Jonah discuss Kevin McCarthy’s slow, tortuous slug of concessions towards becoming a speaker in name only. Also on the agenda: Biden’s 2024 vision, Mayor Pete’s carpetbagging, and the online right’s grotesque response to Damar Hamlin’s cardiac arrest.
Out of context: “That is a trifecta of wrongness.”
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1/5/2023 • 1 hour, 3 minutes, 45 seconds
Sen. Sasse's Exit Interview
Nebraska Sen. Ben Sasse will resign from Congress and take on a new role in February as President of the University of Florida. Sasse, a junior senator from Nebraska and member of the Republican party, has been a vocal critic of Trump's influence on the right and the GOP.
He joins Steve Hayes to discuss the dangers of infotainment, the increasing tribalism of American politics, the future of academic freedom, and why he believes he can affect more change by leaving Congress.
Show Notes:
-The Dispatch Podcast: Ben Sasse on Afghanistan and Reflections on September 11
-The Remnant: Fighting for Lost Causes
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1/3/2023 • 29 minutes, 9 seconds
Inflation, Recession and the Fed
Inflation has driven the cost of living to a record high and most recent reports are giving mixed signals about what to expect. Declan is joined by Desmond Lachman, a senior fellow at the American Enterprise Institute, to talk about interest-rate hikes and Lachman's critiques of the Fed in what he calls "monetary policy overkill."
Show Notes:
-Desmond Lachman: “The Fed is playing with fire with its continued interest-rate hikes”
-CPI Index released on Dec. 13th
-The CME FedWatch Tool mentioned by Declan
-Desmond Lachman’s American Enterprise Institute profile
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12/26/2022 • 33 minutes, 15 seconds
The Year of the Exhausted Majority
Sarah, Steve, Jonah, and David (who heroically dragged himself from bed at the crack of the Tennessee dawn) discuss some of the best and worst stories of 2022. What will make the list? The Russian invasion? The Artemis launch? Asteroid nudging? The Ye-Fuentes summit? The resurgence of COVID in China? The unveiling of Donald Trump’s NFT? Come for the review of a wild year, stay for the wild(?) predictions for 2023.
Plus: a gut-check update on the Sarah-Steve bet.
Show Notes:
-The Morning Dispatch on Zelensky’s speech
-Asteroid: nudged!
-Jonah’s rant on the crazy and insane attempt to retire bad words
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12/23/2022 • 1 hour, 4 minutes, 41 seconds
Ripping Off the Band-Aid of Title 42
"Title 42," the pandemic-era immigration restriction, was slated to expire December 21, until the Supreme Court stepped in. Now, the Biden administration and conservatives are in loggerheads on what to do next. Esther sits down with Aaron Reichlin-Melnick, the Policy Director at American Immigration Council to discuss the historical context behind Title 42, its impact on border crossings, and what we might expect if it goes away.
Show Notes:
-Aaron Reichlin-Melnick’s American Immigration Council (AIC) profile
-AIC's Guide to Expulsions at the Border
-Docket filings related to the Application for Emergency Stay
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12/22/2022 • 31 minutes, 40 seconds
Did Trump Cross the Mendoza Line?
With new polls showing Donald Trump losing his grip on the Republican base, Sarah, David, and Steve debate the do's and don'ts of gauging Trump's political altitude. They also discuss Ron DeSantis' attempt to court the vax-skeptic voter, the recent COVID outbreaks in China, and what the implosion of Sam Bankman-Fried tells us about America's cult of the CEO. Plus: Should we be talking about MTG?
Show Notes:
-Josh Kraushaar on Trump's declining position
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12/15/2022 • 1 hour, 12 minutes, 4 seconds
Why Mitch Can't Have Nice Things
Will the aftermath of Herschel Walker's defeat in Georgia create a rare window for Republican introspection? And can the infotainment right be part of the solution? Sarah, David, Jonah and Steve also discuss what we know (and don’t know) about the Hunter Biden scandal, wonder what ever happened to the Electoral Count Reform Act, and catch up on what’s going on in the rest of the world.
Show Notes:
-The Twitter thread that caught Steve's eye
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12/8/2022 • 1 hour, 6 minutes, 25 seconds
What Should We Be Doing?
Sarah, David, Jonah and –– believe it or not! –– Steve discuss whether and how the United States should support dissidents in China and Iran, ponder the poetic timing of the Fuentes dinner, and lament the intractability of America’s gun debate.
Also: why is it so difficult to enjoy America beating Iran in the World Cup (besides it being soccer)?
Also also: will David’s scotch-taped computer survive the whole hour? Listen and find out.
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12/2/2022 • 1 hour, 14 minutes, 21 seconds
The Desperate Despots Club
With the war not going as smoothly as he might have hoped, Putin turns to Iran for help replenishing Russia's arsenal. Frederick W. Kagan, director of the Critical Threats Project at AEI, joins David to explain the nature of this alliance-of-convenience and where things could go from here.Show Notes:
-Critical Threats: Ukraine Stream
-
Critical Threats: Iran Crisis Updates
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11/30/2022 • 35 minutes, 23 seconds
The DeSantis Dilemma
With Donald Trump officially running for president, Ron DeSantis faces a twisted decision tree. Sarah, David, and Kevin are here to make sense of it. Plus: how should the U.S. respond to the deadly missile incident in Poland?
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11/18/2022 • 1 hour, 5 minutes, 26 seconds
All Bow to the God of Conventional Wisdom
Sarah, Jonah, and David come together to give the midterms a post-mortem to end all postmortems. They discuss the vibe theory of political trends, the presidential prospects of Republicans Not Named Donald Trump, and the lessons both parties took away from the elections.
Oh, and of course: do all roads lead to Georgia..? Again??
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11/11/2022 • 1 hour, 5 minutes, 6 seconds
The Secret Mass Killer
On today’s explainer, Declan is joined by RAND Corporation senior researcher David Luckey. A retired Marine Corps officer, David is now devoted to getting congressional attention to the thing that killed tens of thousands of Americans last year: fentanyl. David explains the scope of the overdose epidemic, its force multipliers, and the ways to fight it.
Show Notes:
-The Morning Dispatch on the Fentanyl Crisis
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11/10/2022 • 37 minutes, 46 seconds
Bibi's Back, Baby
With religion, political corruption, nationalism, and court reform on the ballot, Israel concluded this week its fifth election in three years. Tomer Persico, research fellow at the Shalom Hartman Institute, joins Adaam to offer a quick explainer about Benjamin Netanyahu's comeback, the rise of religious nationalism in Israel, and the universal language of populism.
Show Notes:
-The Morning Dispatch on the Israeli election
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11/6/2022 • 36 minutes, 7 seconds
Your Midterms Questions, Answered
With less than a week before the midterms, Sarah, David, and Jonah come together to answer your questions: Can voters push their parties to be better? What’s the best way to engage with your representatives? When is Nick Cattogio joining the pod?
Plus: the panel reacts to Biden’s Democracy in Peril, Pt. 2 speech.
Show Notes:
-Sarah’s piece for POLITICO about the GOP’s election laws
-Sarah, David, and Jonah’s report for the National Constitution Center
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11/4/2022 • 1 hour, 5 minutes, 13 seconds
Rise of the Vote Bots
What does the Fetterman-Oz debate reveal about the media? Will the isolationist horseshoe in Congress have an effect on Putin? And are we ready for Kevin’s theory of political cooties? Join Sarah, David, Steve, and Kevin as they embark on the penultimate round of midterms punditry.
Show Notes:
-The New York Times on the new campaign press aides
-The Dispatch is coming to Chicago
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10/28/2022 • 1 hour, 3 minutes, 58 seconds
The 'Most Moderate' Republican in the Race
Allan Fung was the mayor of Cranston, Rhode Island for over a decade. Now, he’s hoping to be the first Republican to represent the state in Congress in nearly 20 years. He joined Declan to talk about his “check in those party labels at the door” approach to politics, about the possible agenda of a Republican House, and whether Trump still sets the tone for the party.
Show Notes:
-Axios on Allan Fung
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10/27/2022 • 27 minutes, 4 seconds
A Time and a Place for Pettiness
In a compressed panel of election punditry, Sarah is joined by Kevin and Andrew to discuss Democrats’ preemptive blame game. They also try to wrestle with what it might mean for the country if abortion doesn’t play the big role in the midterms Democrats had hoped it would. Also: 2024… should we start talking about it?
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10/21/2022 • 46 minutes, 43 seconds
Not at Dartmouth Anymore
A new study shows the stark lack of ideological diversity in elite universities. Lawmakers call to rethink relations with the Saudis after OPEC’s decision to cut oil production. John Fetterman’s NBC interview raises difficult questions. Sarah, David, Jonah, and Declan wrestle with these topics before providing an urgent manatee update.
Out of context: “If you stare at 2 + 2 = a duck and you say ‘oh I get it,’ that’s a problem for you.”
-American elite students study
-Fetterman’s NBC interview
-Manatees update
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10/14/2022 • 1 hour, 7 minutes, 10 seconds
Sen. Bill Cassidy on OPEC
With OPEC+ committed to gutting production, Americans are bracing for a gas price hike. This leads Sen. Bill Cassidy to wonder, how should the U.S. maintain a relationship with the Saudis when “what they do can make or break a family budget”? On the Senate Energy and Natural Resources Committee Cassidy calls for more market-based solutions to both bolster energy independence and get carbon emissions under control. He joins Sarah to wrestle with all these problems –– and their political implications –– before turning to the main event: the ultimate Louisiana VS Texas BBQ showdown.
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10/12/2022 • 34 minutes, 36 seconds
Between Politics and Morality
Sparing an hour between driving his “friends” to and from the airport, Declan joins Sarah, David, and Jonah to debate the Herschel Walker saga, whether moral character matters in politics, and whether Democrats enjoy a double standard on hypocrisy. A broader midterms update is then followed by a quick glimpse into the new Supreme Court term. Plus: Elon Musk gets another NWYT mention.
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10/7/2022 • 1 hour, 5 minutes, 51 seconds
Back to Fundamentals
Axios Senior Political Correspondent Josh Kraushaar joins Sarah to explain what happens when the Democrats’ sugar rush drops. Are the fundamentals still favoring Republicans in the midterms? What's going on in Georgia? Can candidate quality block a red wave? And how’s 2024 shaping up? Join for a healthy fix of pre-midterms political punditry and prognostication.
Show Notes:
-Josh's Axios piece on the state of play for November
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10/5/2022 • 47 minutes, 23 seconds
Who Blew Up Nord Stream?
As the editors of The Morning Dispatch eloquently put it, Nord Stream went boom. But who’s responsible? Sarah, David, and Jonah leave no conspiracy theory unexamined. Turning to the midterms, they discuss the power of low expectations, ask when spending money stops being useful, and wonder what it takes to be a good leader (or at least a good politician) during natural disasters. Also: the trio displays heroic restraint in today’s Not Worth Your Time, as they refrain entirely from making any kind of double entendre.
Show Notes:
-Tucker Carlson, literally wall-to-wall on Russian TV
-Lizzo playing James Madison’s flute
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9/30/2022 • 1 hour, 9 minutes, 26 seconds
The Future of the Electoral Count Act
Understanding The Electoral Count Act, as it’s currently worded, requires a team of legal experts. So we got one! Sarah is joined by John Fortier, senior fellow at AEI, and Matthew Seligman, fellow at the Constitutional Law Center at Stanford Law School. Together they try to make sense of the law’s history, explain the difference between the two reform bills coming up through the House and the Senate, and debate whether either one goes far enough to prevent a constitutional crisis in 2024.
Show Notes:
-Matthew in support of the Senate bill
-What the Vice President can’t do
-John’s guide to the electoral college
-Matthew’s 2024 risk assessment
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9/30/2022 • 46 minutes, 46 seconds
Putin Makes Nuclear Threats
What happens when Vladimir Putin starts feeling cornered? Sarah, David, Steve, and Jonah react to Russia announcing military mobilization and think through the implications of Putin’s nuclear chest-thumping. They then turn to the politics of immigration (still very bad), and conclude with some rank punditry: is the Democrats’ momentary surge in the polls already bust?
Out of context: “To me, it’s a little like the fight: Hiter-Stalin – who is worse?”
Show Notes:
-NBC poll showing decline in GOP loyalty to Trump
-Politico: using cartoons as political ads
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9/23/2022 • 1 hour, 1 minute, 10 seconds
Lindsey Graham's New-Old Abortion Ban
At long last in the same room, Sarah, Steve, David, and Jonah debate whether the conversation around abortion is changing, why it doesn't feel like Republicans are out of power, and whether lawmakers will ever do the right thing on border security. Plus: Sarah offers a troubling glimpse of the gents' problematic footwear.
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9/17/2022 • 58 minutes, 6 seconds
Mar-a-Lago Documents Investigation Explained
The rapid developments in the Justice Department’s investigation of classified documents found at Mar-a-Lago may be hard to follow, but not to worry, Sarah, Steve, Jonah, and Declan are here to clarify and discuss. Plus: a look at the long-term impact of COVID-19, and the internal battles as both parties look to the midterms.
Show Notes:
-TMD: How Sarah Palin Lost Alaska’s House Special Election
-The Dispatch: Trump Is Hurting the GOP’s Midterm Prospects
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9/9/2022 • 1 hour, 15 minutes, 6 seconds
Justice Department Turns Up the Heat
This week saw the Justice Department disclose new evidence that the former president and his legal team likely sought to conceal classified documents from investigators. Sarah, Steve, Jonah, and Declan are here to discuss. Plus: Alaska says no to Sarah Palin, and how should we view Mikhail Gorbachev’s legacy?
Show Notes:
-TMD: Trump Team Likely Sought to Conceal Classified Documents From Investigators, DOJ Says
-The Sweep: How Will Abortion Play in the Midterms?
-G-File: Grading Gorby on a Curve
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9/2/2022 • 1 hour, 4 minutes, 17 seconds
Mark Leibovich Talks Thank You for Your Servitude
Steve is joined by Mark Leibovich to discuss his new book Thank You for Your Servitude: Donald Trump's Washington and the Price of Submission. How did the Republican Party get to its present predicament? Leibovich gives us his eyewitness account of how the former president transformed Washington, and a major American political party.
Show Notes:
-Thank You for Your Servitude by Mark Leibovich
-Leibovich’s page at The Atlantic
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9/1/2022 • 1 hour, 9 minutes, 55 seconds
Biden Makes a Move on Student Loan Debt
President Joe Biden announced a plan to provide tens of millions of Americans with student loan debt relief. The fallout was swift. Our hosts are here with their reactions. Plus: Jonah, David, and Declan discuss the results of this week’s primary elections.
Show Notes:
-TMD: Biden’s Base Gets a Student Loan Gift
-The Dispatch: The GOP Is Shrink-Wrapping Itself Around Trump
-The Dispatch: Tim Ryan Keeping the Pressure on J.D. Vance in Ohio
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8/26/2022 • 1 hour, 11 minutes, 21 seconds
What’s With These GOP Senate Candidates?
This week's Dispatch Live, which is a weekly live stream for Dispatch members only, ran into some issues because Substack was completely down on Tuesday. So, because most members did not get to hear it we are offering it in its entirety as The Dispatch Podcast. If you're not a member of The Dispatch and liked what you heard here, click the link below to join so you can tune into Dispatch Live weekly on Tuesdays at 8pm ET.
In this episode, David, Declan, Andrew, and Audrey discuss the Senate GOP candidates for the midterm elections, the latest in the Mar-a-Lago search, and the chances of DeSantis 2024.
Show Notes:
- Join The Dispatch Community
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8/25/2022 • 1 hour, 6 minutes, 24 seconds
Liz Cheney Defeated in Wyoming, Ukraine Fights On
Rep. Liz Cheney lost her re-election bid to her Trump-backed primary challenger in the Wyoming Republican primary on Tuesday. Sarah, Steve, Jonah, and David discuss the result, and share their thoughts as the primary season wraps up. Plus: What’s the latest from Ukraine? Our hosts discuss the state of the conflict.
Show Notes:
-The Dispatch: Liz Cheney: ‘There Is Actually Precedent for ... Vice Presidents to Testify’
-The Dispatch: Choosing to Lose
-The Sweep: Warning Signs for the GOP’s Senate Hopes
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8/19/2022 • 57 minutes, 13 seconds
The Inflation Reduction Act, a Libertarian Nightmare
On Tuesday, President Joe Biden signed the Inflation Reduction Act into law. Scott Lincicome, director of general economics at the Cato Institute, joins Declan to help us better understand the legislation. What’s actually in the law? How questionable is the budget math?
Show Notes:
-Uphill: Breaking Down the Inflation Reduction Act of 2022
-Read Declan in The Morning Dispatch
-Read Scott in Capitolism
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8/18/2022 • 47 minutes, 42 seconds
FBI Searches Mar-a-Lago, Trump Takes the Fifth
It was a busy week for the former president, the FBI searched his home at Mar-a-Lago, he invoked his Fifth Amendment right against self-incrimination in a New York deposition, and Attorney General Merrick Garland moved to make public the legal authorization for the FBI’s search. Sarah, Jonah, and David are here to discuss the fallout. Plus: Our hosts have new inflation numbers, and primary results to chew on.
Show Notes:
-TMD: The FBI Raids Trump’s Home
-French Press: Thinking Through the Trump Search
-G-File: Yearning for a Banana Republic
-Stirewaltisms: Of Presidents and Precedents
-The Dispatch: A Tale of Two GOP Responses to the Trump Search
-TMD: A Hint of Inflation Relief
-The Dispatch: Trump-Endorsed Tim Michels Prevails in Wisconsin Gubernatorial Primary
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8/12/2022 • 1 hour, 8 minutes, 32 seconds
FBI Raids Mar-a-Lago: What Does it Mean?
Sarah and David get together for this special Advisory Opinions crossover episode to discuss the FBI’s search of former President Donald Trump’s home at Mar-a-Lago on Monday. What does it all mean? How does a federal investigation of a senior official work, and what happens next? Plus: some possible theories and explanations that might shed some light on the events of yesterday.
Show Notes:
-TMD: The FBI Raids Trump’s Home
-Andy McCarthy in National Review: The FBI’s Mar-a-Lago ‘Raid’: It’s about the Capitol Riot, Not the Mishandling of Classified Information
-Marc Elias Twitter thread
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8/9/2022 • 46 minutes, 32 seconds
Fallout of Kansas Rejecting Abortion Amendment
Sarah, David, Steve and Jonah are back for an action-packed show today including the primary elections, Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s visit to Taiwan, and the demise of al-Qaeda leader Ayman Al-Zawahiri on Sunday. Will tensions over abortion issues cause bigger voter turnouts in the future? Plus: The Senate overwhelmingly voted to approve Sweden and Finland for acceptance into NATO on Wednesday with a lone dissent from Sen. Josh Hawley.
Show Notes:
-The Sweep: What We Learned
-TMD: Another Blockbuster Primaries Tuesday
-The Current: Killing Zawahiri: How the CIA Hunts Monsters
-TMD: Tensions Flare in the Taiwan Strait
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8/5/2022 • 56 minutes, 13 seconds
David Axelrod Previews the Midterms, 2024
David Axelrod, chief strategist for former President Barack Obama’s presidential campaigns and host of The Axe Files and co-host of Hacks on Tap podcasts, joins Steve to tackle the complex questions about the midterm primary elections this week. What’s up with the Democrat Party’s tactic of funding extremist Republican candidates? And what is the outlook for the upcoming general elections? Plus: Axelrod gives listeners the big picture of what’s happening in Kansas as well as what the abortion rights issue means to both sides of the political aisle.
Show Notes:
-The Axe Files with David Axelrod
-TMD: Another Blockbuster Primaries Tuesday
-The Dispatch: Peter Meijer Falls to Trump-Endorsed John Gibbs in Michigan
-The Dispatch: Eric Schmitt Wins the Missouri GOP Senate Primary
-The Sweep: What We Learned
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8/4/2022 • 49 minutes, 55 seconds
Economy Contracts, Manchin Makes a Deal
Sarah, Steve, Jonah, and David are back to discuss big pieces of legislation coming down the pipeline. Will the Inflation Reduction Act find footing in the House? The White House’s stretched definition of a recession is digging the administration into a deeper hole of messaging problems. Plus, Is President Biden gunning for another term in 2024, and are ordinary Democrats distancing themselves from his leadership?
Show Notes:
-The Dispatch: Who Decides What a Recession Is?
-G-File: Merrick Garland’s Playing It Right
-The Current: The CHIPS Act: Far From Perfect, but Still Very Good
-The Dispatch: Dem Campaign Chiefs Tell Different Stories on GOP Primary Meddling
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7/29/2022 • 1 hour, 58 seconds
Mo Elleithee Talks New Battleground Poll
Mo Elleithee, founding executive director of Georgetown University’s Institute of Politics and Public Service, joins Sarah to talk about the complexities of politics. Results from a new Battleground Poll are in, and it’s clear that most Americans believe that the state of our politics is “really bad.” What happened and what can we do to fix it? Also on the agenda: Alaska’s interesting nonpartisan primary system, and the Democratic National Committee’s recent decision to make states bid for early waivers.
Show Notes:
-Georgetown Institute of Politics & Public Service Battleground Civility Poll
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7/28/2022 • 56 minutes, 4 seconds
January 6 Panel Details Trump's Inaction
Sarah and David are joined by The Morning Dispatch editors Declan Garvey and Esther Eaton to discuss the vivid testimonies during Thursday night’s January 6 committee hearing. Also on the agenda: In the wake of Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health Organization, Republicans are wary of giving Democrats a win with a contraception bill currently on the Senate floor, and a same-sex marriage bill faces an unclear way forward after Tuesday’s House vote.
Show Notes:
-TMD: The January 6 Committee Presses the Secret Service
-TMD: Donald Trump’s Inaction on January 6
-The Dispatch: A Timeline of What Trump Did—and Didn’t Do—on January 6
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7/22/2022 • 48 minutes, 8 seconds
James Webb Takes Us Back in Time
Images from the James Webb Space Telescope have taken the internet by storm, and Declan is here with two guests who worked on it for a fascinating conversation about its long journey into reality. Dr. John Mather, a Nobel Prize-winning astrophysicist at NASA’s Goddard Space Flight Center and the senior project scientist for the JWST, and Dr. Scott Acton, a physicist at Ball Aerospace and JWST’s Wavefront Sensing and Controls scientist, relay their exploits in achieving the most incredible and ambitious space images ever taken of thousands of galaxies, black holes, and dust clouds. And we have to ask: Are we alone in the universe, really?
Show Notes:
-First Images from the James Webb Space Telescope
-Dr. John Mather
-TMD: This Is Something That’s Going to ‘Change Our Understanding of the Universe’
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7/21/2022 • 40 minutes, 44 seconds
Inflation Surges to 40-Year High
Sarah, David, and Jonah reflect on the problem of inflation, which surged to 9.1 percent this week and look ahead to the presidential race in 2024. Will there be a showdown between Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis and former President Donald Trump to win the Republican nomination? Our hosts wrap up with a discussion of shifting coalitions within the political parties.
Show Notes:
-TMD: June’s Very Bad, No Good Inflation Report
-New York Times: Most Democrats Don’t Want Biden in 2024, New Poll Shows
-Axios: The great realignment
-The Dispatch: How Joe Biden Set Himself Up for Failure
-Pew Research Center: Religiously, nonwhite Democrats are more similar to Republicans than to white Democrats
-First Images from the James Webb Space Telescope
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7/15/2022 • 1 hour, 3 minutes, 7 seconds
Robert O'Brien Talks Global Threats
Robert O’Brien, former U.S. ambassador and national security advisor to President Donald Trump, joins Klon Kitchen for a discussion of international politics from a bird’s-eye view. They discuss his time working for the former president, and the job of national security advisor. Plus: How can the United States protect itself from Chinese economic espionage? China’s threat to Taiwan? And what is the future of the war in Ukraine?
Show Notes:
-Uphill: The Showdown Over the China Competition Bill
-The Current: Ban TikTok Now
-The Current: Getting Smart on Intelligence
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7/13/2022 • 1 hour, 43 seconds
The Tragedy in Highland Park
Sarah, Steve, Jonah, and David discuss two major events from the last week, including the chaos across the pond with the UK Prime Minister Boris Johnson’s resignation on Thursday morning. Near Chicago, at least seven are dead and dozens injured after the July Fourth shooting at Highland Park, prompting questions about whether red flag laws really work. An update on Ukraine is also in order, as well as 2022 midterm implications for the House of Representatives and the Senate.
Show Notes:
-TMD: Boris Johnson to Resign
-Stirewaltisms: Boris Johnson and the Survival of the Silliest
-TMD: Tragedy in Highland Park
-Harvard Center for American Political Studies/Harris poll on Roe v. Wade
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7/8/2022 • 1 hour, 2 minutes, 45 seconds
Goodbye Red Brick Road
Tim Miller, writer-at-large at The Bulwark, joins Steve to talk about his new book: Why We Did It: A Travelogue from the Republican Road to Hell. Miller gives listeners a breakdown of the Washington, D.C. political culture and how it’s not what you might think. Plus: the book sparks a lively debate about the divides within the Republican Party, and whether there’s a way forward in the midst of the murk. Is there a place for center-right journalism to thrive?
Show Notes:
-Why We Did It: A Travelogue from the Republican Road to Hell
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7/6/2022 • 1 hour, 11 minutes
Grappling with a Post-Roe America
Jonah and Chris Stirewalt join Sarah to talk about the political aftermath of Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health Organization as states begin to grapple legislatively with the post-Roe era. Will we reach a consensus on what life means in the womb? Our hosts also discuss the nature of Cassidy Hutchinson’s testimony during the surprise January 6 select committee hearing and the risks with the Democrats’ 2022 election strategy.
Show Notes:
-TMD: Surprise Witness Blows January 6 Investigation Right Open
-The Dispatch: Donald Trump’s Fractured Inner Circle
-The G-File: Democrats Have a Funny Way of Expressing Concern About ‘Our Democracy’
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7/1/2022 • 1 hour, 13 seconds
How the Uyghur Forced Labor Prevention Act Became Law
This is the audio version of the story documenting the creation and passage of the Uyghur Forced Labor Prevention Act. The story is based on more than 21 hours of interviews with more than two dozen people involved, including lawmakers, staff, and human rights advocates.
Show Notes:
-PDF: How the Uyghur Forced Labor Prevention Act Became Law
-Introduction and Part 1
-Parts 2 and 3
-Parts 4 and 5
-Parts 6 and 7
-Parts 8 and 9
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6/27/2022 • 2 hours, 16 seconds
Biden Pushes for Gas Tax Holiday
Sarah, Steve, and Jonah dive into a delightful political potpourri, tackling everything from the Biden administration’s possible gas tax holiday to immigration and the Georgia congressional runoffs. They also discuss the House Select Committee’s January 6 hearing on Tuesday, which produced some interesting testimonies.
Show Notes:
-TMD: “Biden’s Mixed Messages on Oil”
-Karl Rove in the Wall Street Journal: “Biden Got the Energy Market He Wanted”
-Capitolism: “Fueling Uncertainty”
-TMD: “How Trump and His Aides Pressured State Officials”
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6/24/2022 • 49 minutes, 42 seconds
How Gas Prices Got So High
Remember when filling up your gas tank didn’t cost the same amount as your weekly grocery bill? Leslie Beyer, CEO of the Energy Workforce & Technology Council, and Skanda Amarnath, the Executive Director at Employ America, join Declan to discuss the oil and gas supply issues America faces. The Biden administration’s current approach to the sector doesn’t inspire much confidence prices will come down any time soon, but there are levers policymakers could pull to ease the pain at the pump.
Show Notes:
-Capitolism: “Fueling Uncertainty”
-Employ America Research Report
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6/23/2022 • 42 minutes, 12 seconds
Takeaways From Elections in South Carolina and Texas
It’s been another week of interesting primary elections, and Sarah, David, Jonah, and Andrew discuss what we learned from Texas and South Carolina. Then our hosts dive into the details of the framework for a possible Senate gun bill and whether the House will learn to settle for compromise, not perfection. Finally, what are the key takeaways from the January 6 House Select Committee so far?
Show Notes:
-The Sweep: The Value of a Trump Endorsement
-The Dispatch: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the January 6 Committee
-The Sweep: The Politics of the January 6 Hearings
-Uphill: The Way Forward for the Senate’s Gun Violence Bill
-The Dispatch: Can We Make Red Flag Laws Work?
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6/17/2022 • 1 hour, 56 seconds
Crimes of the Present
Thiru Vignarajah, former deputy attorney general of Maryland, joins Sarah to talk about all things Baltimore: violent crime, reforming police practices, and the Baltimore City state’s attorney race. Plus: What might help bring down gun violence in major cities?
Show Notes:
-Justiceforbaltimore.com
-French Press: Against Gun Idolatry
-The Dispatch: Can We Make Red Flag Laws Work?
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6/15/2022 • 58 minutes, 19 seconds
January 6 Committee Makes Its Case
The House Select Committee to Investigate the January 6th Attack on the United States Capitol held its first hearing Thursday night. Sarah, Steve, Jonah, and David discuss its fact-based and substantive approach to investigating what happened at the Capitol riots, and whether the Republican Party will hold former President Donald Trump accountable. Then our panel turns to the question of political violence in America: Is our political rhetoric out of control? Our hosts then cover how the California primaries are off to an interesting start with progressive District Attorney Chesa Boudin’s recall on Tuesday.
Show Notes:
-The Dispatch: “Primetime Hearing Focuses on the Plan Behind January 6”
-TMD: “January 6 Revisited”
-Uphill: “January 6 Through the Images and Words of Those Who Lived It”
-The Dispatch: “What Chesa Boudin’s Recall Says About Criminal Justice Reform”
-The Atlantic: “How San Francisco Became a Failed City”
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6/10/2022 • 1 hour, 12 minutes, 50 seconds
Chuck Todd Previews Midterms, January 6 Hearings
Chuck Todd, host of NBC’s Meet the Press, joins Steve to discuss the public’s eroding trust in politicians and the political system. An alarming Pew Research poll turns the conversation to how context and nuance have been lost in political journalism and campaign coverage. Steve and Todd also cover the Trump divide within the Republican Party, what the January 6 Committee might tell us this week, and, of course, whether the Green Bay Packers will make the Super Bowl next season.
Show Notes:
-Pew Research: “Americans’ Views of Government”
-The Sweep: “Why Issues Don’t Change Votes”
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6/8/2022 • 49 minutes, 24 seconds
100 Days of War in Ukraine
Russia’s invasion of Ukraine started almost 100 days ago. Our hosts are here to discuss the latest from the war and America’s role. Sarah, Steve, Jonah, and David then turn to the gun debate at home: Will mass shootings in recent weeks produce different political results than past tragedies? Finally they preview next week’s January 6 hearings on Capitol Hill.
Show Notes:
-French Press: “The Tide Is Turning Toward Russia”
-The Dispatch: “A Marshall Plan for Ukraine?”
-TMD: “100 Days of War in Ukraine”
-New York Times: “Voters Say They Want Gun Control. Their Votes Say Something Different.”
-New York Times: “A Timeline of Failed Attempts to Address U.S. Gun Violence”
-RAND: “How Gun Policies Affect Mass Shootings”
-RAND: “Facts About the Effects of Gun Policies Are Elusive but Important”
-The Reload: “NRA Revenue Dropped $47 Million in 2021, Down $130 Million From Just 3 Years Prior”
-San Diego Zoo Condor Cam
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6/3/2022 • 1 hour, 5 minutes, 13 seconds
How Do You Solve A Problem Like Primaries?
Edward B. Foley, professor and director of the election law program at Ohio State, and Nick Troiano, executive director of Unite America, join Sarah for a conversation about reforming primaries. What does primary reform look like? Their conversation covers political science, history, and math. That’s right math. Can math save democracy?
Show Notes:
-Requiring Majority Winners for Congressional Elections
-Foley in the Washington Post: “How our system of primary elections could destroy democracy”
-The Sweep: “A Focus on the Problem with Primaries”
-Unite America: “America Has a Primary Problem”
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6/1/2022 • 55 minutes, 55 seconds
The Tragedy in Uvalde
On Tuesday, an 18-year-old gunman fatally shot 19 students and two teachers at an elementary school in Uvalde, Texas. Our hosts are here to discuss the latest updates and what comes next. Sarah, Steve, Jonah, and David then turn to this week’s round of primaries. What did they learn? They finish by discussing the latest from Russia’s invasion of Ukraine. What does Russia’s Black Sea blockade mean for the world?
Show Notes:
-The Dispatch: “After Uvalde, What Now?”
-Uphill: “Mass Shootings Reignite Gun Control Debate in Washington”
-French Press: “Pass and Enforce Red Flag Laws. Now.”
-The Sweep: “A Focus on the Problem with Primaries”
-TMD: “A Big Night for GOP Incumbents”
-The Dispatch: “Georgia Republicans Stick With Kemp by a Wide Margin”
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5/27/2022 • 1 hour, 9 minutes, 36 seconds
Revenge of the Incumbents in Georgia
Erick Erickson, host of the Erick Erickson Show, joins Steve for a conversation about what we learned from the primary election results in Georgia, and what it all means for November and beyond. Steve is then joined by Khaya Himmelman to discuss her fact check of Dinesh D’Souza’s new documentary film 2,000 Mules.
Show Notes:
-Erick Erickson: “Trump's 2000 Mules Got Stuck in Georgia Clay”
-Erick Erickson: “The Democrats Don't Want a Solution to Gun Violence”
-Khaya’s fact check: “Fact Checking Dinesh D’Souza’s ‘2,000 Mules’”
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5/25/2022 • 1 hour, 5 minutes, 32 seconds
The Tragedy in Buffalo
Following a man’s racist attack at a supermarket in Buffalo, in which he killed 10 people and wounded three more, our hosts are here to discuss what it means for our politics and culture. Sarah, Jonah, and Declan then discuss the baby formula shortage. How did the Biden administration drop the ball? And finally, reactions to the latest round of primaries around the country.
Show Notes:
-The Dispatch: “A Look at the State of Red Flag Laws After Buffalo”
-TMD: “Grappling With the Buffalo Mass Shooting”
-Capitolism: “America’s Infant Formula Crisis and the ‘Resiliency’ Mirage”
-The Sweep: “Headed Toward a Recount in Pennsylvania”
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5/20/2022 • 1 hour, 4 minutes, 7 seconds
Mark Esper on ‘A Sacred Oath’
Joining this week’s Dispatch Podcast with Sarah is former Secretary of Defense Mark Esper. Esper was also secretary of the Army during the Trump administration, and in his new book, A Sacred Oath: Memoirs of a Secretary of Defense During Extraordinary Times, he talks about the challenges that came with working under President Trump. In the podcast, Esper and Sarah discuss life on the inside of the administration, Esper’s infamous “Four Nos,” and what he sees as the greatest threat to the United States today. Hint, his fears are more about things happening inside the country, not outside.
Show Notes:
-A Sacred Oath: Memoirs of a Secretary of Defense During Extraordinary Times
-Esper Paints Chaotic Picture of Trump Administration’s Middle East Policy, by Charlotte Lawson
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5/18/2022 • 41 minutes, 42 seconds
The Inflation Game
The economic state of America, which technically may be improving according to the latest inflation numbers, is still not good. The gang (with deputy managing editor Michael Scott Reneau stepping in for Steve) discuss it and home in on why that’s bad news for Democrats. Plus, Tim Alberta of The Atlantic just wrote a profile of evangelical churches in America and it is so good Sarah, David, Jonah, and Michael had to talk about it and the state of evangelicalism on today’s episode. And finally, Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer held a vote on abortion access in America which failed miserably. What the heck was he thinking? Finally, what is the legacy of John Brown?
Show Notes:
-TMD on the latest inflation numbers and baby formula shortage
-Tim Alberta on the evangelical church
-Politico: Senate Democrats’ imaginary majority
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5/13/2022 • 1 hour, 1 minute, 33 seconds
Jonathan Martin and Alex Burns on ‘This Will Not Pass’
There is no shortage of stuff to talk about in This Will Not Pass: Trump, Biden, and the Battle for America's Future, the new book by New York Times reporters Jonathan Martin and Alex Burns, and Steve does his best to discuss all of it in this week’s Dispatch Podcast. As Steve says, “The book makes you feel like you are in the room.” The trio breaks it all down—from January 6, those now infamous Kevin McCarthy recordings, and the early days of the Biden administration. Burns and Martin respond to McCarthy’s accusation that they took his comments “out of context.” Plus, why does Biden want to “do it all?” Finally, how do the authors deal with critics on the right that immediately write them off because they work for The New York Times?
Show Notes:
-This Will Not Pass by Jonathan Martin and Alex Burns
-Recordings of McCarthy saying he will urge President Trump to resign
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5/11/2022 • 1 hour, 3 minutes, 8 seconds
Supreme Court, Abortion, and the Political Fallout
What are we to make the Justice Samual Alito’s leaked draft opinion in Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health? Our hosts are here to discuss as the politics of abortion take shape. Sarah, Jonah, and David then pivot to what they learned from Tuesday’s primary elections. And finally, what does all of this mean for Trump’s chances in 2024?
Show Notes:
-David and Sarah’s podcast breaking down the Suprme Court leak
-French Press: “The Supreme Court Abortion Leak—Your Questions, Answered”
-G-File: “Why Joe Biden Hates Saying the A-Word”
-The Sweep: “What Does J.D. Vance’s Victory Tell Us About the Midterms?”
-Sarah in the Washington Post: “We in the ‘shallow state’ thought we could help. Instead, we obscured the reality of a Trump presidency.”
-Smithsonian’s National Zoo: “Tragic Loss of Animal Life at Smithsonian’s National Zoo”
-DCist: “There’s An Angry Turkey Attacking People On The Anacostia Riverwalk”
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5/6/2022 • 57 minutes, 14 seconds
Mitt Romney Talks Inflation and the Economy
Utah Sen. Mitt Romney joins Steve for a discussion on the state of the economy and how to rein in inflation. Plus, the senator answers questions about canceling student debt, the Supreme Court abortion leak, J.D. Vance’s victory in Ohio, and the latest from Russia’s invasion of Ukraine.
Show Notes:
-Romney in the Wall Street Journal: “Biden’s Errors Worsen Inflation”
-Capitolism: “Is President Biden Trying to Boost Inflation?”
-TMD: “Washington Gears Up for a Post-Roe Future”
-The Dispatch: “Non-Interventionist Republicans: A Small, Vocal Minority”
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5/4/2022 • 30 minutes, 46 seconds
Is This The ‘70s All Over Again?
Most economic numbers paint a dire picture for Democrats in the upcoming midterms. Steve, Jonah, and David discuss who is exactly to blame for that. Then the trio wade into the debate over forgiving student loans. (Spoiler alert: They aren’t fans.) Will the woes in the Democratic Party produce a Ronald Reagan-type figure on the right? Plus, what is everyone’s opinion of the White House Correspondents Dinner?
Show Notes:
TMD on the economy numbers
Student loan forgiveness is regressive whether measured by income, education, or wealth | Brookings Institute
Kevin McCarthy recordings
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4/29/2022 • 53 minutes, 4 seconds
California's Fiscal Future
Lanhee Chen is running for state controller in California, but what does a state controller do? Steve gets that answer, plus Chen’s thoughts on California’s fiscal state and his plan if he wins the election. Chen also discusses his experience running Mitt Romney’s 2012 presidential campaign’s policy shop.
Show Notes:
-Chen’s campaign website
-Los Angeles Times endorses Chen’s campaign
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4/27/2022 • 32 minutes, 58 seconds
Mask Mandates and McCarthy's Lie
It was a busy week. The Justice Department is appealing a federal judge’s decision to strike down the CDC’s travel mask mandate. The Biden administration is standing by its plan to end Title 42, a pandemic-era border policy, despite pushback from Democrats. Texas and Florida have governors making their own questionable decisions. Netflix and CNN feel the full effects of the streaming wars. Plus, what did Kevin McCarthy say?
Show Notes:
-David and Sarah’s deep dive into the mask mandate decision
-Sarah’s immigration conversation with Ali Noorani
-Uphill: “Kevin McCarthy’s January 6 Lie”
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4/22/2022 • 54 minutes, 23 seconds
Immigration and the Problem at the Border
The Biden administration plans to end use of Title 42, the pandemic-era border policy, next month. The governor of Texas is busing migrants to the nation’s capital. Meanwhile, illegal border crossings are on the rise. Does anyone have a plan? Ali Noorani, president of National Immigration Forum and author of Crossing Borders, joins Sarah to discuss America’s immigration woes.
Show Notes:
-“Crossing Borders: The Reconciliation of a Nation of Immigrants” by Ali Noorani
-Room to Grow: Setting Immigration Levels in a Changing America
-Texas Tribune: “San Antonio and other Texas cities confront the spillover from the border migration crisis”
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4/20/2022 • 47 minutes, 15 seconds
Political Implications of Inflation
The Bureau of Labor Statistics released its latest Consumer Price Index (CPI) report this week, and our hosts are here to talk through it. What does this all mean for the upcoming midterms and 2024? They will discuss that too. Plus, Sweden and Finland are looking to join NATO. What does this mean for the Western alliance? What should we expect from Russia?
Show Notes:
-TMD: “Light at the End of the Inflation Tunnel?”
-The Sweep: “Tsunami or Ripple? What a Midterm Wave Might Look Like.”
-The Sweep: “To Agenda or Not? That Is the Question for the GOP.”
-TMD: “Finland and Sweden Weighing NATO Bids”
-New York Times: “Military Memo Deepens Possible Interstellar Meteor Mystery”
-WUSA: “Teens among seven people arrested after detectives find dog reportedly taken at gunpoint”
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4/15/2022 • 56 minutes, 33 seconds
Let's Talk About Sex
Sarah and her guest are here to talk about sex. Christine Emba, a columnist for the Washington Post and author of the new book Rethinking Sex, examines our current sexual mores and finds them wanting. What’s the cause of today’s sexual malaise? What does a new sexual ethic look like? Listen (but maybe not with your young children) for those answers and more.
Show Notes:
-“Rethinking Sex” by Christine Emba
-Christine in the Washington Post: “Consent is not enough. We need a new sexual ethic.”
-David in The Atlantic: “Consent Was Never Enough”
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4/13/2022 • 50 minutes, 27 seconds
Future of Supreme Court Fights
On Thursday, the Senate confirmed Judge Ketanji Brown Jackson to the Supreme Court. Our hosts are here to discuss what her confirmation foreshadows for future Supreme Court fights. Plus, the Biden administration announced plans to end use of Title 42, a pandemic-era border policy, next month. What does that mean? Sarah, Jonah, and David finish the show discussing the practicality of bringing charges of war crimes as we learn more about the atrocities committed by Russia in Ukraine.
Show Notes:
-The Dispatch: “The Bucha Massacre and the Horrors to Come”
-G-File: “Is It Okay to Use the ‘G-Word’?”
-The Dispatch: “What are Secondary Sanctions?”
-TMD: “How Will the U.S. Admit Ukraine's Refugees?”
-Uphill: “Congress Finally Meanders to a Russia Trade Bill”
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4/8/2022 • 51 minutes, 7 seconds
Cheri Bustos Reflects on Her Service
Rep. Cheri Bustos is leaving Congress at the end of this term. What has she learned from her five terms in the House and—as the former leader of the House Democrats’ campaign arm—from the 2020 election? How can Democrats improve their prospects in the 2022 midterms? Sarah gets these answers and more in a candid conversation with the Illinois congresswoman.
Show Notes:
-Hope from the Heartland: How Democrats Can Better Serve the Midwest by Bringing Rural, Working Class Wisdom to Washington
-How Dems Win in Trump Districts
-The Sweep: “Tsunami or Ripple? What a Midterm Wave Might Look Like.”
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4/6/2022 • 43 minutes, 6 seconds
Biden Taps Oil Reserve
President Biden announced he would tap our strategic oil reserves in an effort to fight high gas prices. Our hosts are here to discuss the economic realities of that decision. Plus, it was the slap heard around the world: Why can’t we stop talking about it? Sarah, Jonah, David, and Scott finish the show talking about gaffes, cocaine-fueled orgies, and standing in line.
Show Notes:
-TMD: “It’s a Petroleum Reserve Release, but Is It Strategic?”
-The Dispatch: “The Uncomfortable Truth of Biden’s Gaffe”
-G-File: “Madison Cawthorn’s Warped Washington”
-Capitolism: “Why You Should (Almost) Never Wait in Line”
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4/1/2022 • 1 hour, 1 minute, 26 seconds
Understanding Florida's 'Don't Say Gay' Bill
Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis signed House Bill 1557 into law on Monday. The Parental Rights in Education Act—or “Don’t Say Gay” bill, as its detractors call it—is one of the most contentious and least understood pieces of legislation in recent memory.
On today’s podcast, Declan is joined by Gabriel Malor, an appellate litigator based in Virginia, and Eugene Volokh, a law professor at UCLA, for a thoughtful conversation that dives into the bill text and elucidates what the law does—and doesn’t—do. Plus: What are the benefits and drawbacks of writing legislation with vague terminology? And why is Florida passing this bill now? Are the political right and left swapping sides on the exercise of government power?
Show Notes:
-TMD: “Breaking Down the So-Called ‘Don’t Say Gay’ Bill”
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3/30/2022 • 50 minutes, 57 seconds
KBJ's Supreme Court Confirmation Hearings Wrap
Ketanji Brown Jackson’s Supreme Court confirmation hearings have wrapped, and our hosts are here to break down the week on Capitol Hill. Jonah, David, and Andrew then turn to the latest developments in the war in Ukraine. Plus, what do the guys make of those Ginni Thomas texts to Mark Meadows? Or Trump dropping his endorsement of Mo Brooks in the Alabama Senate race?
Show Notes:
-TMD: “Biden, World Leaders Huddle on Russia”
-The Dispatch: “Inside the First Ukrainian City to Fall to Russia”
-Washington Post: “Virginia Thomas urged White House chief to pursue unrelenting efforts to overturn the 2020 election, texts show”
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3/25/2022 • 1 hour, 10 minutes, 1 second
One Month of War in Ukraine
Steve talks with Taras Byk, a political consultant now working with the Territorial Defense Forces in Kyiv, to get a sense of what’s happening on the ground in Ukraine. What’s changed since the last time they talked? Steve then has a conversation with Tom Karako, a senior fellow at the Center for Strategic and International Studies. Why has Russia not been able to establish air superiority? What do we need to know about those hypersonic missiles that Russia launched? Tom has those answers and more.
Show Notes:
-The Dispatch: “Just How Many Russian Soldiers Have Died in Ukraine?”
-French Press: “Questions and Answers After One Month of War”
-New York Times: “How Ukraine’s Outgunned Air Force Is Fighting Back Against Russian Jets”
-CSIS report: “Complex Air Defense: Countering the Hypersonic Missile Threat”
-Bayraktar song
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3/24/2022 • 1 hour, 3 minutes, 20 seconds
Russia, Iran, and the American Response
As we pass the third week of Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, our hosts are here to discuss the latest: The Biden administration looks to make a deal on Iran’s nuclear program. What are we to make of the president’s foregin policy? Plus, Sarah and the guys talk about inflation and the Federal Reserve’s decision on interest rates.
Show Notes:
-The Dispatch: “Concessions to Iran, Russia Pile Up in Nuclear Talks”
-Uphill: “The House Hits Russia on Trade”
-TMD: “An Interest Rate Increase”
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3/18/2022 • 53 minutes, 36 seconds
Zelensky Makes His Plea to Congress for Ukraine
On today’s episode, Steve speaks with Eric Edelman, a member of the U.S. foreign service for 28 years who served as a U.S. ambassador, a national security adviser to the vice president, and an under secretary of defense. They discuss Vladimir Putin and his strategy going into the invasion of Ukraine, Volodymyr Zelensky’s address to Congress, and finish with the latest on the Iran deal.
Show Notes:
-Edelman’s page at The Dispatch
-Edelman’s podcast Shield of the Republic
-TMD: “Iran Deal on the Ropes?”
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3/17/2022 • 1 hour, 19 minutes, 45 seconds
On the Ground in Ukraine
On today’s episode, Steve has a conversation with Taras Byk, a political consultant and former journalist now working with the Territorial Defense Forces in Kyiv, Ukraine. What’s he seeing on the ground? How are the people of Ukraine holding up as we pass the second week of Russia’s invasion? Plus, Sarah, Steve, and Jonah are here to discuss the latest fallout around the world and here at home.
Show Notes:
-The Dispatch: “The Past Offers a Way Forward on Foreign Policy”
-Uphill: “The Tug of War Over America’s Russia Response”
-The Current: “School’s in Session”
-The Dispatch: “Why Did Russia Invade Ukraine Now?”
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3/11/2022 • 1 hour, 8 minutes, 30 seconds
Ukraine Under Attack
On today’s podcast, Sarah and Steve talk with Natalie Jaresko, Ukraine's former minister of finance. They discuss the history of Ukraine, its people, and what the last two weeks have meant for the country.
Show Notes:
-NPR: “Kenyan U.N. ambassador compares Ukraine's plight to colonial legacy in Africa”
-The Dispatch: “Why Did Russia Invade Ukraine Now?”
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3/9/2022 • 43 minutes, 6 seconds
The World Has Changed
As the first week of Russia’s invasion of Ukraine passed, our hosts are here to discuss how the world has changed. Plus, President Biden delivers his first State of Union address and Texas holds the first primary elections of 2022. What have we learned from the last week?
Show Notes:
-TMD: “A Nuclear Plant Scare in Ukraine”
-The Dispatch: “Will the European Union Admit Ukraine?”
-The Dispatch: “The Coming Surrender to Iran”
-The Dispatch: “Fact Checking the State of the Union”
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3/4/2022 • 59 minutes, 33 seconds
Ben Sasse, Barbara Comstock, and the State of the Union
On today’s podcast, Steve is joined by Sen. Ben Sasse of Nebraska, a member of the Senate Intelligence Committee, to discuss the Russian invasion of Ukraine, our response to it, and his thoughts on the State of the Union. Steve is then joined by Barbara Comstock, former representative of Virginia, for a conversation about President Joe Biden’s speech last night and the future of the Republican Party.
Show Notes:
-French Press: “Questions and Answers After Six Days of War”
-Jonah “Gradually, Then Suddenly: How the World Stood Up to Putin”
-TMD: State of the Union
-From The Dispatch: “GOP Reps Slam Greene, Gosar”
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3/2/2022 • 1 hour, 2 minutes, 18 seconds
Russia Starts a War
Right before recording today’s episode started, news broke that President Joe Biden is nominating Ketanji Brown Jackson to the Supreme Court. Our hosts take a quick look at that and what it means for SCOTUS. Then the conversation moved to the dire situation in Ukraine. David cautioned against believing all of the information we receive in the fog of war and the group discusses how many people on the right have flip-flopped on Putin. Tune in, too, for a preview of next week’s State of the Union address.
Show Notes:
-Ketanji Brown Jackson nominated to the Supreme Court
-Sen. Graham on KBJ nomination
-Ukrainian woman gives Russian soldier sunflower seeds
-Snake Island audio
-J.D. Vance’s latest statement on Ukraine
-Garry Kasparov on Twitter
-Mr. President, It’s Time for a Little Humility | NYT
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2/25/2022 • 1 hour, 4 minutes, 2 seconds
Understanding Vladimir Putin's Russia
In a lively discussion about who Vladimir Putin is and the danger he poses to the world, Steve is joined by Peter Baker, chief White House correspondent for The New York Times, and Susan Glasser, staff writer at The New Yorker. The two, who are married, offer insights to their book, Kremlin Rising, which they co-authored during their four year stay in Russia. The trio discuss Putin's rise to power, his current rhetoric, as well as how the Republican Party and Trump have grown increasingly close to him.
Show Notes:
-Kremlin Rising by Peter Baker and Susan Glasser
-Susan's Frontline interview
-Polling on Putin's growing popularity in the Republican Party
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2/23/2022 • 55 minutes, 46 seconds
We Can't Get No Satisfaction
According to polling from Gallup, Americans are as happy as they’ve almost ever been. Yet their feelings toward the country as a whole are near an all-time low. Why is that? Sarah, Steve, David, and Declan discuss that and more. Plus, in San Francisco, the left seemed to do some self-correcting after a successful recall of a number of school board members. And finally, as Steve promised members on this week’s Dispatch Live, a continued conversation about Rep. Liz Cheney.
Show Notes:
-Gallup satisfaction numbers
-San Francisco recall election results
-What pundits don’t understand about the San Francisco recall | Mother Jones
-David on the San Fran recall in The Atlantic
-Squad politics backfire | Axios
-San Francisco Mayor on The New York Times podcast “Sway”
-Local BLM chapter posts bail for man charged with attempted murder of mayoral candidate
-Dispatch Live (for members only)
-Republican or not | SNL
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2/18/2022 • 1 hour, 14 minutes, 34 seconds
Ukraine Hit By Cyberattacks
Today on the podcast, Sarah and Steve are joined by Klon Kitchen, senior fellow at the American Enterprise Institute, to discuss the latest in Ukraine after the country was hit by cyberattacks. Plus, how much is the Republican Party’s foreign policy views changing? And what exactly can the Chinese government do with all that TikTok data?
Show Notes:
-TMD: “Ukraine on the Brink”
-Klon’s Dispatch piece: “The Old—and Incoherent—Foreign Policy of the New Right”
-Ahmari, Deneen and Pappin: “Hawks Are Standing in the Way of a New Republican Party”
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2/16/2022 • 52 minutes, 33 seconds
Todd Rose Talks Collective Illusions
On today’s podcast, Sarah and Steve talk with Todd Rose, author of Collective Illusions: Conformity, Complicity, and the Science of Why We Make Bad Decisions. How much of our thinking about each other is informed by false assumptions? What are the consequences of a society this mistrustful? And what are we to do about it?
Show Notes:
-Collective Illusions by Todd Rose
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2/11/2022 • 57 minutes, 15 seconds
‘Legitimate Political Discourse’
On today’s podcast, our hosts discuss the Republican Party’s decision to censure two of its own members, Reps. Liz Cheney and Adam Kinzinger, over their involvement in the January 6 investigation. Plus, a growing list of states have lifted their mask mandates. What’s changed?
Show Notes:
-TMD: “Republicans Choose Their Corners in the January 6 Brawl”
-The Sweep: “Did McCain-Feingold Ruin America?”
-National Journal: “Biden is blowing his COVID moment”
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2/10/2022 • 1 hour, 15 minutes, 54 seconds
Rob Portman on Risk of War in Ukraine
Ohio Sen. Rob Portman joined The Dispatch Podcast to talk about the ongoing crisis in Ukraine. What is Vladimir Putin doing? Why should Americans care? Plus, Steve and David ask Sen. Portman about efforts to reform the Electoral Count Act.
Show Notes:
-Sen. Portman on Meet the Press
-French Press: “Stop Screwing Around and Reform the Electoral Count Act”
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2/4/2022 • 36 minutes, 11 seconds
Trump Tried to Steal an Election
On today’s podcast, our hosts discuss the latest round of statements from former President Donald Trump and new reports about his role after the 2020 election. How are elected Republicans reacting? Plus, President Joe Biden has a Supreme Court seat to fill, and the world turns its eyes toward China as the Winter Olympics get underway.
Show Notes:
-TMD: “Trump Doubles Down on January 6 Role”
-G-File: “This Was Always the Plan”
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2/2/2022 • 1 hour, 5 minutes, 10 seconds
Replacing a Supreme Court Justice
On today’s podcast, Steve moderates a conversation about the politics of replacing Justice Stephen Breyer on the Supreme Court. Joining Sarah on the panel is Gregg Nunziata, who worked on the Senate Judiciary Committee, and John McCormack, Washington correspondent for National Review. What does replacing a Supreme Court justice look like from behind the scenes? Our panel has that answer and more.
Show Notes:
-Stirewaltisms: A Supreme Break for Biden
-TMD: Breyer to Retire
-Advisory Opinions: Justice Stephen Breyer to Retire
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1/28/2022 • 59 minutes, 24 seconds
The Escalating Crisis in Ukraine
The problems in Ukraine are getting worse. Our hosts discuss what led to the current situation and the role President Biden played in getting to this point. Then Sarah, David, Jonah, and Steve talk about two issues that are not getting enough attention as we head to the midterms: immigration and crime.
Show Notes:
-TMD: Germany Drags Feet On Ukraine
-Uphill: What Price Will Putin Pay for a Ukraine Invasion?
-NATO spending requirements
-Crime stats
-San Francisco Mayor crime speech
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1/27/2022 • 1 hour, 13 minutes, 22 seconds
Heidi Heitkamp Talks Filibuster, Biden’s First Year
On today’s episode, Sarah and Steve speak with Heidi Heitkamp, former North Dakota senator and founder of One Country Project. They cover everything from the filibuster to President Biden’s first year in office. What doesn’t work about the Senate? Can Biden turn things around before the midterms?
Show Notes:
-TMD looks back at Biden’s first year
-Uphill looks at the state of Build Back Better
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1/21/2022 • 1 hour, 1 minute, 13 seconds
Biden at One Year
A year ago, almost to the day, Joe Biden was sworn in as president of the United States. The gang looks back at a year full of shifts to progressive policies from Biden. Is he living up to his promise of restoring normalcy in America? Plus, Gallup says 2021 saw the greatest shift in party preferences for as long as Gallup has been around. What does that mean for the country and our politics? Finally, are we on the brink of World War III with Russia threatening to go into Ukraine?
Show Notes:
-How Biden’s first year became a tale of two presidencies | POLITICO
-Sen. Jim DeMint on what type of Republicans he preferred
-Sen. Brian Schatz on the filibuster (from November 2017)
-U.S. Political Party Preferences Shifted Greatly During 2021 | Gallup
-The Sweep from May 4 on campaign fundraising
-David Ignatius’ page on The Washington Post website
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1/19/2022 • 1 hour, 7 minutes, 35 seconds
Rep. Newhouse on Voting Rights Push
Rep. Dan Newhouse, one of the 10 House Republicans to impeach Trump, joins Sarah and Steve on today’s podcast. They discuss why he is against Biden’s new voting rights legislation and how much influence the federal government should have over elections. Plus, the congressman talks about his view of the filibuster, and the rightward shift of rural America.
Show Notes:
-Rep. Newhouse's statement against new voting rights legislation
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1/14/2022 • 54 minutes, 6 seconds
Biden Pivots to Voting Rights
President Biden ran his 2020 campaign on the promise he’d bring back “normal” life in America. Almost one year later, there is still an ongoing pandemic, record-high inflation, and a serious lack of food in grocery stores. The gang discusses it all and what it means for the country. Plus, President Biden spoke about voting rights in Atlanta yesterday and the speech aggravated all four hosts. They discuss the speech and how it adds to the tearing of the social fabric in America.
Show Notes:
-President Biden’s speech in Atlanta
-Stacey Abrams snubs President Biden?
-Democrats, Voting Rights Are Not the Problem | Yuval Levin
-Tweet that sparked the “worst three-hour drive” debate
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1/12/2022 • 1 hour, 1 minute, 10 seconds
2022 and the Upcoming Midterms
On today’s podcast, Chris Stirewalt fills in for Steve and Sarah and has a discussion with Josh Kraushaar of National Journal. They talk about the teacher strike in Chicago, which leads to a broader discussion of Biden and the Democratic Party’s unwillingness to challenge the extremes of the party. Plus, they discuss the upcoming midterms and the projected Republican landslide that could be the party’s largest majority since the 1920s.
Show Notes:
-Josh’s Interview with Jared Polis
-Josh’s article about Democrats/Joe Biden pandering to extremes of the party
-Poll on how two-thirds of Republicans believe the election was stolen
-David Shor on how the progressives have “hijacked” the Democratic Party
-Josh’s podcast Against the Grain
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1/7/2022 • 29 minutes, 19 seconds
January 6: One Year Later
On the eve of the anniversary of the January 6 insurrection, the podcast is dedicated entirely to the events at the Capitol. The gang recounts their memories from that bleak day in Washington and what it has meant for the country over the past year. A lively discussion about what role Speaker Nancy Pelosi and the left played in the lead-up and aftermath ensues. Finally, what will be different about how we talk about January 6 in 20 years?
Show Notes:
-First-ever editorial from The Dispatch calling for Trump impeachment
-The Dispatch Podcast from January 7, 2021
-Inside the Capitol Riot: An Exclusive Video Investigation | New York Times
-Rep. Mike Gallagher on January 6
-Sen. Lindsey Graham on the Senate floor on January 6
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1/6/2022 • 1 hour, 7 minutes, 20 seconds
The Collapse of Build Back Better
In the final episode of “The Dispatch Podcast” in 2021, our hosts talk about Joe Manchin’s non-reliability for the Democrats, the increasing tensions between Russia and Ukraine, and the growing spread of the more-infectious Omicron variant. They close by asking a question: How will historians in 100 years view the past two decades?
Show Notes:
-Give someone a Dispatch subscription this Christmas
-TMD: “Manchin Says No to Build Back Better”
-Jonah: “Democrats Are Still Misreading Political Reality”
-Dmitri Alperovitch Twitter thread on Russian aggression
-TMD: “Biden Inches Toward New Pandemic Paradigm”
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12/23/2021 • 1 hour, 12 minutes, 3 seconds
January 6 and Those Mark Meadows Texts
On today’s episode, our hosts discuss the House’s vote to hold Mark Meadows, Donald Trump’s former chief of staff, in criminal contempt of Congress for defying a subpoena from the January 6 Select Committee. Plus, are we taking threats to vote counting seriously enough? Is Jonah right about Omicron? And, is President Biden being unfairly treated by the media?
Show Notes:
-TMD on Mark Meadows text messages
-The Atlantic: “Trump’s Next Coup Has Already Begun”
-Jonah’s G-File with his Omicron argument
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12/15/2021 • 1 hour, 14 minutes, 43 seconds
Raffensperger on the Need for Integrity
On today’s podcast, Sarah and Steve are joined by Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger. In 2020, Georgia was at the center of claims of voter fraud that kept President Trump from returning to the White House, and before that in 2018, the state was the site of claims of voter suppression that kept Stacey Abrams from the governor’s mansion. Raffensperger, author of the new book Integrity Counts, tells our hosts why Americans should have confidence and trust in our country’s elections.
Show Notes:
-Axios: “Trump-backed Perdue says he wouldn’t have certified Georgia 2020 results”
-Integrity Counts, by Brad Raffensperger
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12/10/2021 • 31 minutes, 11 seconds
Jonathan Karl on Trump's Final Days
In his new book, Betrayal: The Final Act of the Trump Show, Jonathan Karl, ABC News' chief Washington correspondent, details what was really going on in the final months of the Trump administration, and in the aftermath of the 2020 election. What was happening behind-the-scenes as Trump left the White House? How should the press cover a potential 2024 campaign by the former president?
Show Notes:
-Betrayal: The Final Act of the Trump Show by Jonathan Karl
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12/3/2021 • 45 minutes, 27 seconds
Supreme Court Hears Mississippi Abortion Case
With all eyes on the Supreme Court today, the gang starts with an explainer of what is happening in the oral arguments of Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health Organization. What’s at stake? Is it as monumental as some are making it out to be? When might we know how the court rules? Plus, a new COVID variant emerges, Russia builds up its military presence near Ukraine, and blue states fail to live up to their own ideals.
Show Notes:
-SCOTUSblog on Dobbs v. Jackson
-TMD on Omicron
-U.S., Allies Warn Russia Over Military Buildup Around Ukraine | WSJ
-David Ignatius’ latest column on Ukraine
-Blue States, You’re the Problem | NYT
-Everyone’s Moving to Texas. Here’s Why. | NYT
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12/1/2021 • 1 hour, 45 seconds
Curb Your Inflation
On today's podcast, our hosts discuss how to solve a problem like inflation. Will Biden's Build Back Better Act actually bring down prices? Plus, Sarah and the guys discuss pandemic fatigue driving voters to the GOP, what's going on at the Naval Observatory, and what the Kyle Rittenhouse and Ahmaud Arbery trials tell us about ourselves as a nation.
Show Notes:
-TMD: “Can the Build Back Better Act Curb Inflation?”
-The Sweep: “Dems’ Permanent Pandemic Mindset Deepens Midterm Gap”
-CNN: “Exasperation and dysfunction: Inside Kamala Harris' frustrating start as vice president”
-Harris has a Veep moment
-David in The Atlantic: “Kyle Rittenhouse Is No Hero”
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11/17/2021 • 1 hour, 9 minutes, 15 seconds
Supply-Chain Woes Explained
On today's episode, Sarah and Steve sit down with Scott Lincicome, senior fellow at the Cato Institute and author of The Dispatch newsletter Capitolism, to discuss the details of our global supply-chain issues. Plus, Lincicome answers questions about inflation, wages, and problems with our labor force participation.
Show Notes:
-Make sure you get Capitolism in your inbox
-Lincicome’s latest Capitolism tackles our supply-chain woes
-Lincicome’s Capitolism looking at our labor shortage
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11/12/2021 • 44 minutes, 1 second
Supply-Chain's Political Fallout
On today's show, our hosts discuss issues up-and-down the supply-chain, and the political fallout it brings. Plus, the ripple effects of the House passing the infrastructure package, what we think we know about the 2022 midterms, and the latest news around the Steele dossier.
Show Notes:
-Lincicome’s latest Capitolism tackles our supply-chain woes
-Uphill breaks down the bipartisan infrastructure bill
-The Sweep digests the election results from last week
-Politico: “The Surprising Strategy Behind Youngkin’s Stunner”
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11/10/2021 • 1 hour, 5 minutes, 20 seconds
Sen. Ben Sasse at the Aspen Security Forum
Today’s episode of The Dispatch Podcast is a little bit different than the typical Friday version. Steve interviewed Nebraska Sen. Ben Sasse at the Aspen Security Forum on the topic of America’s response to the digital revolution across the globe. Among some of the more interesting topics discussed: China and “chuckleheads,” as Sen. Sasse refers to some members of Congress. Sen. Sasse explains why even though the country faces an immense amount of problems he is still optimistic about the future.
Show Notes:
Link to video of the discussion
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11/5/2021 • 34 minutes, 25 seconds
Biden Backlash Begins
Sometimes the news of the day calls for some good old-fashioned rank punditry and after Tuesday’s elections today’s Dispatch Podcast does just that. Sarah, David, Jonah, and Declan look at the results not just in Virginia, but New Jersey, Minneapolis, and Buffalo, too. What do the results mean for the 2022 midterms? Anything at all? Our hosts break it all down.
Show Notes:
-TMD on election night in America
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11/3/2021 • 1 hour, 2 minutes, 8 seconds
What’s Happening In Loudoun County?
On today's podcast, Sarah and David talk with Ian Prior, executive director of Fight for Schools, to discuss what exactly is happening in Loudoun County, Virginia. Critical race theory in schools? A sexual assault controversy? And how will this all affect the race for governor in Virginia?
Show Notes:
-Prior “More Va. Public Schools Using Kids As Guinea Pigs For Critical Race Theory”
-French Press “When the State Kinda Sorta Parents Your Child”
-The Sweep: Down to the Wire in Virginia
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10/29/2021 • 1 hour, 10 minutes, 27 seconds
Final Push in Virginia
On today's episode, our hosts discuss a new proposal from Democrats to tax the unrealized capital gains of billionaires. Is it constitutional? Plus, Taiwan and “strategic ambiguity,” the Facebook files, and who will Virginia elect as governor next week?
Show Notes:
-The Dispatch: “Washington Should Deter an Attack on Taiwan”
-Wall Street Journal “The Facebook Files”
-The Sweep: Down to the Wire in Virginia
-The Dispatch “President Biden Stumps for Terry McAuliffe”
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10/27/2021 • 1 hour, 5 minutes, 42 seconds
Balance of Power: China and the United States
On today's episode, Sarah and Steve talk with Klon Kitchen, a senior fellow at the American Enterprise Institute and veteran of the intelligence community to discuss the latest news out of China. What do China’s hypersonic missile tests mean for the balance of power between the United States and China? Are we at the start of a new "cold war?" Kitchen answers these questions and more.
Show Notes:
-“Why China’s Hypersonic Missile Tests Are So Concerning” by Klon Kitchen
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10/22/2021 • 46 minutes, 46 seconds
China's Hypersonic Missile Ambitions
On today’s podcast, our hosts tackle a wide range of topics. From China’s hypersonic missiles to the ongoing situation in Loudoun County, Steve, Sarah, Jonah, and David grapple with what those issues mean for the country with heavy doses of concern and skepticism. Plus, some good old-fashioned rank punditry. Sarah asks whether political operatives are responsible for ruining our politics? And some level-setting on Jonah’s third party idea that has caused a stir on the right.
Show Notes:
-“The Greatest Cold War Myth of All” - Charles Krauthammer
-Jonah’s Los Angeles Times column on a third party
-Jesse Singal on Loudoun County
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10/20/2021 • 1 hour, 14 minutes, 57 seconds
Former Congressmen Burn Down the House
Former Rep. Dan Lipinski, Democrat from the Chicago area, and Reid Ribble, Republican from Wisconsin, join Sarah and Steve about how Congress works or doesn’t work, rather. The two former elected officials highlight the failures of the House of Representatives with troubling personal stories and insights. Fair warning, this conversation is as distressing as it is informative. Plus, stick around to hear what the Wisconsinite and Illinoisian think about this weekend’s Packers vs. Bears game.
Show Notes:
“The House of Representatives Is Failing American Democracy” - Lipinski in The Atlantic
“Confessions of a pro-life Catholic Democrat in a divided nation” - Lipinski in America Magazine
Dan Lipinski’s website
“Daniel Lipinski on Common-Good Republicans” - First Things Podcast
Reid Ribble’s Twitter
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10/15/2021 • 1 hour, 8 minutes, 2 seconds
Texas Governor Fights Vaccine Mandates
To quote the great Ozzy Osbourne, “We’re going off the rails on the crazy train.” In today’s podcast, our hosts look at Texas Gov. Greg Abbott’s ban on vaccine mandates, the DOJ memo aimed at school boards, an update to the January 6 committee, and President Biden's slumping numbers among independents. And finally, what does all of this mean for 2022 and (even though it’s way too early) 2024?
Show Notes:
-Abbott says businesses control their merchandise
-Abbott says businesses cannot control who is vaccinated in their store
-Merrick Garland letter
-National School Board Association letter
-McAuliffe: "I don't think parents should be telling schools what they should teach."
-Tragic homicide story over vaccines in Maryland
-Daily Wire Loudoun County story
-“We Came So Close to Disaster” - French Press
-Eastman Memo: “It’s Real and It’s Not Spectacular” - Advisory Opinions
-Bill Kristol and William Baude
-The Sweep on Biden’s polling struggles
-Ezra Klein and David Shor
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10/13/2021 • 1 hour, 19 minutes, 14 seconds
Our Growing Pirate Skiff
On today's episode, Jonah hijacks hosting duties from Sarah to have a conversation with Steve as The Dispatch celebrates its second anniversary. How did we get here? What is the state of the company? And where are we going?
Show Notes:
-The Dispatch manifesto from 2019
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10/8/2021 • 1 hour, 17 minutes, 20 seconds
Rising Tensions in the Indo-Pacific
On today's podcast, our hosts discuss China's recent incursions into Taiwan’s air defense identification zone, and how seriously the United States should take the Chinese Communist Party’s aggression in the Indo-Pacific. Plus: Democrats are in disarray on Capitol Hill, a State Department official resigns over the Biden administration’s border policy, and Facebook is feeling the heat from all directions.
Show Notes:
-Read TMD on China’s deployment of aircraft near Taiwan
-Subscribe to Uphill for the latest news from Capitol Hill
-Facebook Files from WSJ
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10/7/2021 • 1 hour, 14 minutes, 11 seconds
Infrastructure Stalemate
On today's podcast, Steve is joined by Haley Byrd Wilt, who writes Uphill for The Dispatch, and John McCormack, Washington correspondent for National Review, to discuss what exactly has been happening on Capitol Hill this week. After House Democrats delayed a vote on the infrastructure bill, can both factions find a way to end the stalemate?
Show Notes:
-Subscribe to Uphill for the latest news from Capitol Hill
-Read McCormack at National Review
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10/1/2021 • 50 minutes, 50 seconds
Democrats Split on Capitol Hill
All eyes are focused on Capitol Hill this week as the debt ceiling, government funding, and infrastructure talks continue to heat up in both houses of Congress. Also happening in both chambers is testimony on Afghanistan from Chairman of the Joint Chiefs Gen. Mark Milley, Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin, and U.S. Central Command Commander Gen. Kenneth McKenzie. Sarah has the week off, so Steve, David, and Jonah discuss it all on this week’s episode. And for dessert: the future of the Republican Party.
Show Notes:
-TMD on Afghanistan testimony
-Uphill on what the heck is going on in Congress
-Jennifer Graham Afghanistan reporting
-Robert Kagan on our constitutional crisis in the Washington Post
-The Eastman memo
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9/29/2021 • 1 hour, 14 minutes, 20 seconds
The Fight to Raise the Debt Ceiling
On today's episode, Brian Riedl, senior fellow at the Manhattan Institute, joins Sarah and Steve as Congress debates lifting America’s borrowing cap. Will Democrats and Republicans come to an agreement to lift the debt limit? Are we heading toward another government shutdown? Is anyone in Washington concerned about our ballooning national debt?
Show Notes:
-The Morning Dispatch looks at Biden’s make or break week
-Riedl’s piece from earlier this summer “Trillions and Trillions”
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9/24/2021 • 38 minutes, 10 seconds
Is Biden Just Bad at his Job?
After the latest surge of migrants in the border town of Del Rio, Texas, our hosts discuss how the Biden administration has handled the immigration issue since taking office. Plus, President Biden continues to have foreign policy problems. What happened with the botched drone strike in Afghanistan? Why is France mad at us? All of that leaves Jonah with one big question: Is Biden just bad at his job?
Show Notes:
-Jonah on Biden’s foreign policy
-The Morning Dispatch breaks down the drone strike that killed civilians in Afghanistan
-TMD catches you up on the deal between the U.S., U.K., and Australia
-Tom Joscelyn on AUKUS in Vital Interests
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9/22/2021 • 1 hour, 3 minutes, 48 seconds
S.E. Cupp on Moderation and Social Media
On today’s episode, CNN’s S.E. Cupp joins Sarah and Steve to talk about the Biden administration, Congress, and why extremism is taking over the politics of today. Plus, the trio discusses the effects of social media on the news business and the challenges that come with being the target of internet trolls.
Show Notes:
“The Conservative Coma” by SE Cupp in Vanity Fair
S.E. opens up about living with anxiety
WSJ report on the effects of social media on teen girls
“Why You're Wrong About the Right” by S.E. Cupp and Brett Joshpe
“Losing our Religion” by S.E. Cupp
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9/17/2021 • 49 minutes, 47 seconds
General Milley and Trump's Final Days
Journalists Bob Woodward and Robert Costa have a new book coming out that is full of more scandals from the Trump era, most notably one involving Gen. Mark Milley possibly going around the chain of command in the final days of the Trump administration. Before that discussion, the gang discusses the legality and politics of the Biden administration’s vaccine mandate. Plus, a potpourri of topics pertaining to the GOP and what to make of the California recall election.
Show Notes:
-Excerpts from Peril by Bob Woodward and Robert Costa
-Reporting from Jennifer Griffin
-More excerpts from Peril
-Scott Lincicome’s latest Capitolism newsletter
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9/15/2021 • 1 hour, 13 minutes, 23 seconds
Ben Sasse on Afghanistan and Reflections on September 11
In today's episode, Sarah and Steve talk with Sen. Ben Sasse about the botched withdrawal from Afghanistan and what to do next. For a longer summary of the interview, check out an article on The Dispatch website. Plus, Steve talks with Peter Wehner who was a speechwriter for President George W. Bush on September 11, 2001. They share reflections on that day at the White House and the last 20 years.
Show Notes:
-“The Vanishing American Adult” by Ben Sasse
-“Them” by Ben Sasse
-Peter Wehner at The Atlantic
-Peter Wehner at The New York Times
-“The Death of Politics” by Peter Wehner
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9/10/2021 • 1 hour, 26 minutes, 1 second
September 11: 20 Years Later
President Biden is having a no good, horrible, very bad summer. The gang, with Chris Stirewalt subbing in for David, discuss whether Biden can recover from the last few weeks. Is the only thing that can save Biden a reemergence of former President Trump? Trump is slated to visit Iowa and the group discusses what that means for 2024. And finally, Afghanistan is still in shambles and we’re coming up on the 20th anniversary of 9/11. Listen to hear what Sarah, Jonah, Steve, and Chris were doing 20 years ago and how it impacted the rest of their lives.
Show Notes:
-Amy Walter on Biden’s approval rating
-Jonah’s 9/11 piece
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9/8/2021 • 1 hour, 7 seconds
Abortion in America
This week, the Supreme Court, in a 5-4 decision, declined to block a Texas abortion law from going into effect. In Thursday’s Advisory Opinions podcast, Sarah and David tackled the legal aspect of the law and the court’s decision. Today, they turn to the politics--not just of the Texas law, but of the issue of abortion itself. Where does the pro-life movement stand today? Where does it go from here?
Show Notes:
-David’s piece breaking down the Supreme Court’s decision
-David and Sarah’s legal analysis of the Supreme Court’s ruling
-Study: “How Americans Understand Abortion”
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9/3/2021 • 50 minutes, 43 seconds
Disco Ball of Asininity
There are no more troops in Afghanistan, and President Biden is telling us we had no other option. The gang talks about all the problems with Biden’s speech from the White House at the end of the war in Afghanistan. Plus, as political violence seems to be ticking up recently our hosts debate whether or not that is something to worry about. And finally, creeping a little bit into Advisory Opinions territory, what’s going on with all of the big cases in the Supreme Court?
Show Notes:
-Biden’s speech on the end of the Afghan War
-McConnell honors Joe Biden in 2016
-David’s latest newsletter on political violence
-Sen. Ron Johnson is a closet normal
-Eviction moratorium ends
-Texas abortion law
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9/1/2021 • 1 hour, 11 minutes, 32 seconds
Rep. Mike Gallagher on Afghanistan
Rep. Mike Gallagher joins Sarah and Steve on the podcast and tries (with no luck) to understand the logic behind the Biden administration’s withdrawal plan in Afghanistan. Gallagher puts it quite bluntly, “The whole thing is a mess, and there are very few options we have right now.” The Marine Corps veteran explains what he’d like to see from the Biden administration going forward and how the GOP should handle national security issues going forward. Plus, find out what brutal book the congressman just finished reading (hint: it’s about Sarah’s home state).
Show Notes:
Office Space Michael Bolton scene
Rep. Gallagher’s Small Wars Journal piece with plenty of Office Space references
Empire of the Summer Moon by S.C. Qwynne
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8/27/2021 • 31 minutes, 15 seconds
Scramble to Evacuate Afghanistan
Today, the gang leads the podcast with yet another conversation about the crisis in Afghanistan. As they tick through all the bad takes floating around the internet surrounding the situation one by one, it’s clear the main takeaway is that it’s still really bad and sad to watch. Plus, more infrastructure talk! Has Nancy Pelosi lost her political touch? The Dispatch Podcast team breaks down how the political maneuvering of infrastructure will affect 2022. And for dessert: the California gubernatorial recall election.
Show Notes:
-Can the Taliban become a reliable partner to the U.S.? Only time will tell. - David Ignatius
-History of the Dunkirk evacuation
-David subs for Jonah on The Remnant
-TMD tries to explain the House infrastructure rule
-TMD on California recall
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8/25/2021 • 1 hour, 3 minutes, 5 seconds
Failure in Afghanistan
In this episode, Steve moderates a conversation with David French and Tom Joscelyn about the ongoing crisis in Afghanistan. They cover the Biden administration’s decision not to begin evacuations before the Taliban captured Kabul, intelligence failures, the state of the Afghan military, and much, much more.
Show Notes:
-Read Vital Interest for Tom’s latest analysis on Afghanistan
-Read The French Press for David’s latest analysis on Afghanistan
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8/20/2021 • 1 hour, 21 minutes, 32 seconds
American Defeat
For the large majority of today’s podcast, our hosts discuss the ongoing crisis in Afghanistan and how it will affect domestic politics in the United States. Perhaps David summed up the conversation around the Afghanistan situation as succinctly as possible, “There’s no way to spin this as anything other than a direct American defeat.” Plus, short conversations about the state of COVID-19 and the new census data.
Show Notes:
-The Remnant with Eli Lake
-The Sweep on issue polling
-All of Thomas Joscelyn’s latest Vital Interests
-New census data
-Americans Color Outside the Lines - Chris Stirewalt
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8/18/2021 • 1 hour, 15 minutes, 46 seconds
Infrastructure Passes and Collapse in Afghanistan
In his first interview after voting yes on the historic bipartisan infrastructure bill, Sen. Bill Cassidy joins Sarah and Steve to talk about how it feels to see that bill pass the Senate. Plus, Cassidy puts on his doctor hat to talk about COVID-19. Then Steve is joined by Tom Joscelyn to discuss the deteriorating situation in Afghanistan. How much longer until the Taliban seizes full control of the country?
Show Notes:
-Closer look at passing of the infrastructure bill from Uphill
-David French’s view on Afghanistan
-Read Vital Interest for the latest analysis on Afghanistan
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8/13/2021 • 1 hour, 24 minutes, 48 seconds
Senate Approves Infrastructure Bill
At long last, infrastructure week is here! The gang contemplates what the bipartisan plan and Democratic reconciliation package mean for the country and the economy. Also, how would Sen. Goldberg vote on the bipartisan bill? Then the discussion turns to what should be done about the latest damning climate report. Plus, everyone’s worst fears about Afghanistan from a few weeks ago seem to be coming true. And finally, for dessert, Andrew Cuomo.
Show Notes:
-Uphill’s latest update on infrastructure
-IPCC report
-Pentagon press secretary John Kirby
-State Department spokesman Ned Price
-Cuomo resigns
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8/11/2021 • 1 hour, 10 minutes, 19 seconds
Six Months Into Biden's Iran Strategy
How do you solve a problem like Iran? Richard Goldberg, a senior adviser at the Foundation for Defense of Democracies, is here to talk with Sarah and Steve about the Biden administration's approach to Iran after six months in office. Was moving away from the Trump administration's maximum pressure campaign the right move?
Show Notes:
-Goldberg’s piece in The Dispatch
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8/6/2021 • 53 minutes, 35 seconds
End of the Line for Cuomo
On today’s podcast, our hosts kick things off with a discussion about New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo, who refuses to resign despite a damning sexual harassment report and calls from national Democrats, including President Biden, to step aside. They then dive into the CDC’s decision to extend the eviction moratorium again and debate the possibility of a federal vaccine mandate. Next, David talks about the right’s new obsession with Hungary and Viktor Orbán and how it mirrors the left’s fascination with Scandinavia. Finally, the gang discusses the recent dropoff in PAC contributions, and how the rise in small dollar donations may be contributing to American partisanship.
Show Notes:
-The battle for 1042 Cutler Street
-Web/fundraising email loop
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8/4/2021 • 1 hour, 20 minutes, 32 seconds
Will Hurd on Dysfunction in Congress
Former U.S. Representative Will Hurd from Texas joins Sarah and Steve to talk about dysfunction in Congress, the January 6 committee, and the centralization of power in Washington. Hurd tells our hosts that there’s no incentive to solve real issues in Congress and we’re incapable of dealing with generation-defining issues because our political system is full of silly issues. Plus, why it’s imperative to teach students how to code. And why, contrary to Republican talking points, January 6 was not an ordinary day. Finally, how the Republican Party can be more competitive with people of color, young people, and suburban women.
Show Notes:
-Will Hurd’s upcoming book
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7/30/2021 • 48 minutes, 19 seconds
January 6 Committee Gets Started
The select committee to investigate the January 6 attack held their first hearing on Tuesday, our hosts are here to discuss the substance and politics of what we heard. Plus, the CDC is out with new guidelines recommending vaccinated Americans wear masks indoors in certain parts of the county. Can Jonah contain his anger at the CDC's messaging? And why are opinions on Simone Biles' decision to withdraw from competition a race to the bottom?
Show Notes:
-The Morning Dispatch recap’s January 6 committee hearing
-CDC updated its COVID-19 mask guidance
-Simone Biles drops out of Tokyo Olympics team final
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7/28/2021 • 1 hour, 19 minutes, 6 seconds
Finding the Ideological Center of Gravity
Patrick Ruffini, a co-founder of the predictive analytics and research firm Echelon Insights, joins Sarah and Chris to discuss his recent analysis of the American electorate. Ruffini tells our hosts where the ideological center of gravity seems to be and why cultural issues might be driving voter turnout. Chris asks whether a party can adopt a perfect policy position and if party bases tolerate ideological flexibility. Plus, why are moderate Democrats outperforming progressives? And why are educated voters drifting left, but non-educated voters are drifting right?
Show Notes:
-Echelon Insights Four Quadrants of American Voters
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7/23/2021 • 43 minutes, 33 seconds
White House Battles Social Media Over Misinformation
The White House has announced that it will be flagging misinformation on Facebook in an attempt to diminish vaccine skepticism. But could politicizing this issue even further actually embolden anti-vaxxers? Our hosts consider how we can sway the unvaccinated, and whether the world would be better off without online comment sections. Afterward, Steve introduces a potpourri of topics for Jonah and Sarah to dig into. How concerned should we be about inflation? Do Republicans have any interest in fully uncovering what happened on January 6? And can Biden convince the Democrats to accept a bipartisan infrastructure agreement after promising unity in his inaugural address? The gang concludes by discussing Jeff Bezos’ voyage to outer space, and Jonah considers whether we should build nuclear reactors on the moon.
Show Notes:
-The Morning Dispatch breaks down Biden’s clash with Big Tech
-Jonah’s column: “Biden Shows How Not to Improve Vaccine Rates”
-A Forbes article on the myth of vaccine-induced magnetism
-TMD explores whether inflation is a threat
-Alex Tabarrok discusses inflation on The Remnant
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7/21/2021 • 58 minutes, 8 seconds
Chris Christie Talks Future of the GOP
Former New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie joins Sarah and Chris Stirewalt to talk about the strengths and weaknesses of the Republican Party. They discuss why Republicans should make education a priority issue, why inflation is a liability for Democrats, and why Republicans are doomed if they continue to relitigate the past. Plus, how do Republicans win back the suburbs? Christie argues that suburban voters didn’t abandon Republicans because of issues; they just didn’t like Donald Trump. Finally, are we going to see Chris Christie run for office again?
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7/16/2021 • 45 minutes, 10 seconds
Cries for Freedom in Cuba
Cuban citizens have taken to the streets to protest the oppressive communist regime, but what can the United States do to help? Should we do anything to help? The gang considers the moral and political implications of United States foreign policy toward Cuba. David notes that vaccine hesitancy is having severe consequences as positive covid cases continue to rise. How should we go about persuading the vaccine-hesitant to get the vaccine? Plus, Texas Democrats have left the state in protest over a new voting bill, and Sarah has some thoughts. Is this bill an example of voter suppression or just over-eagerness from Democrats to have a talking point? Finally, tech companies face legislative threats from the state level. Chris questions the unintended consequences of big-tech bills.
Show Notes:
-Jonah’s column: “Vaccines Save Lives. Anti-Vax Hysteria Kills.”
-Chris’s Article: “Anti-Vaccine Pandering Poses Risk for GOP”
-Ramesh Ponnuru’s column on Biden’s response to voting bills: “Biden’s Voting Rights Bluster Recycles Failed Strategy”
-CPAC 2024 Straw Poll Results
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7/14/2021 • 1 hour, 13 minutes, 28 seconds
Capitol Riot Investigation Pushes Forward
Earlier this week marked the six-month anniversary of the January 6 attack on the Capitol, but the criminal investigations are only beginning to hit full stride. Scott MacFarlane, a local investigative reporter at NBC4 Washington, who has reported extensively on the aftermath of January 6, joins Sarah and Steve to discuss the status of the ongoing criminal trials. MacFarlane also talks about the increase in threats against members of Congress.
Show Notes:
-Scott MacFarlane’s twitter account
-New York Times’ video investigation into January 6
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7/9/2021 • 41 minutes, 35 seconds
Six Months Later
In this podcast, our hosts indulge in a wide-ranging airing of grievances, starting with a reflection on the political salience of the January 6 Capitol insurrection, six months after the fact. The gang then discusses whether Republicans have lost the right to be called the party of ideas and what might be behind the GOP’s current allergy to nuance. Sarah also explores the tension between Ron DeSantis and Donald Trump that cropped up over Trump’s recent Florida rally. Looking ahead to the 2024 elections, Chris argues that most pundits are missing who will be the biggest player, by far, in the contest: President Joe Biden. Lastly, Chris asks whether the abysmal state of election administration in some cases—as revealed by the recent New York City mayoral race—is proof that Democrats' are not taking threats to the American democracy seriously, and whether the failure to do so will make it easier for bad actors to steal elections.
Show Notes:
-New York Times: Inside the Capitol Riot: An Exclusive Video Investigation
-Straw poll showing Ron DeSantis edging out Donald Trump in 2024
-Chris’ column on NYC mayoral race: “Nobody Will Ever Know Who Really Won”
-Ezra Klein: California Is Making Liberals Squirm
-Associated Press: Trump announces suits against Facebook, Twitter and Google
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7/7/2021 • 1 hour, 10 minutes, 26 seconds
From Ohio with Love
Rep. Anthony Gonzalez returns to the podcast this week to discuss his re-election campaign against a Trump-endorsed challenger, the House’s new January 6 commission, how Democrats’ narrow majorities in Congress shape their behavior, what’s really on his constituents’ minds, and why embracing Trump’s election lies should be a non-starter for potential GOP candidates in 2024.
Show Notes:
-Declan’s article on Trump’s recent rally with Gonzalez’s primary opponent
-Gonzalez’s previous Dispatch podcast appearance (Jan. 29)
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7/2/2021 • 43 minutes, 24 seconds
Welcome to New York City
Incompetence strikes again in New York’s mayoral race, a blow to American’s faith in government but not, our hosts argue, fuel for 2020 election fraud claims or a ding on ranked choice voting. The gang then discusses Vice President Kamala Harris’ belated visit to the U.S.-Mexico border. Steve points out that Harris’ clumsy handling of immigration is more than just a messaging failure, and says just as much about the Biden administration’s policy failures. David dives into why governors don’t call up the National Guard more (as South Dakota Gov. Kristi Noem did recently for a border mission.) They also tackle an underreported aspect of infrastructure negotiations on the Hill and discuss what divides that drama reveals about the Democratic Party. Lastly, our hosts discuss Bill Barr’s defiance of former President Donald Trump on 2020 election fraud claims and whether the most hardcore Trump supporters qualify as a religion or a cult.
Show Notes:
-New York Times article about the chaos of the New York mayoral race
-Texas Tribune article about Kamala Harris’ visit to the border
-A Washington Post article about Kristi Noem’s deploying national guards to the border
-Yuval Levin’s article in National Review about how what the media missed in the infrastructure reporting
-Jonathan Karl’s story in The Atlantic about Bill Barr’s final days in Trump-era Department of Justice
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6/30/2021 • 1 hour, 9 minutes, 57 seconds
Infrastructure Deal's Uncertain Future
Sarah and Chris Stirewalt welcome RealClearPolitics associate editor and columnist A.B. Stoddard to the show today to run the gamut of the week’s political news. They discuss whether the bipartisan infrastructure deal is actually a compromise (and whether it can pass), why Kamala Harris is finally traveling to the border, and what needs to happen in Congress to preclude a nightmare scenario for the Republic in January 2025.
Show Notes:
-The Morning Dispatch breaks down infrastructure negotiations
-Dems Botched Voting Rights; They Need a New Bill (A.B. Stoddard, RealClearPolitics)
-The Sweep: Election Day in Gotham
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6/25/2021 • 51 minutes, 18 seconds
Taliban Makes Gains in Afghanistan
As the Biden administration seeks to withdraw all U.S. troops from Afghanistan by September, the Taliban is already on the offensive. How should the United States respond? And how should the United States take care of the thousands of Afghans who have aided the United States against the Taliban? The gang discusses. Then, David brings up interesting statistics regarding how often each Supreme Court justice is part of the majority. Does this undermine the traditional categorization of justices along the ideological spectrum? Plus, they talk about the preliminary results in the New York Democratic primary, in which crime was the top voter issue according to opinion polls. What does this mean for the 2022 elections and beyond? Lastly, our hosts discuss the recent backlash from the left against musical actor Lin-Manuel Miranda.
Show Notes:
-FDD’s Long War Journal on the Taliban offensive
-Thomas Joscelyn on Al-Qaeda’s presence in Afghanistan
-Thomas Joscelyn on the Taliban gains
-Adam Liptak on Supreme Court justices’ proportions in majority
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6/23/2021 • 1 hour, 28 minutes, 30 seconds
Bipartisan Food Truck Conversation
Mo Elleithee, a longtime Democratic operative and executive director of the Georgetown Institute of Politics and Public Service, joins Sarah and Chris Stirewalt to break down the results of the latest GU Battleground Poll. They talk about the implications of voters’ concerns about division, the nuanced differences between attitudinal and issue polling, and how the parties’ messaging on issues they respectively “own” are shaping political dynamics heading into the midterms.
Show Notes:
-GU Battleground Poll
-Chris’ column on junk poling
-This week’s Sweep on polling and primaries
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6/18/2021 • 55 minutes, 42 seconds
The Fight Over Critical Race Theory
The critical race theory battle has quickly invaded school boards all across the country - but is everyone arguing in bad faith? The gang considers the politics of CRT and the role of legislators in regulating public school curriculum. Plus, Sarah points out the flaws in issue polling and why we should be skeptical of the results. Finally, foreign policy galore. What should Biden say to Putin? Is this summit practice for an eventual showdown with China? Should Ukraine join NATO?
Show Notes:
-Poll: 29% of Republicans think Trump will be reinstated
-For the People (Data for Progress) poll
-Charles C.W. Cooke on critical race theory
-The Sweep
-Jonah’s column
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6/17/2021 • 1 hour, 11 minutes, 55 seconds
Mitch Daniels Talks Higher Ed
Purdue University President and former Indiana Gov. Mitch Daniels joins Sarah and Steve to talk about the state of higher education in America, wokeness on college campuses, and the national debt. Daniels explains Purdue’s new civics literacy test for all new students at the university, discusses his 2021 commencement speech and bringing back America’s “spirit of adventure,” and chats about riding into the ceremony on a motorized couch.
Show Notes:
-Purdue civics literacy test
-Mitch Daniels’ 2021 commencement speech
-FIRE study on college free speech
-Mitch Daniels rides Couch to Commencement
-Daniels op-ed regarding the national debt
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6/11/2021 • 45 minutes, 34 seconds
Biden's Agenda Meets Reality
With President Biden’s domestic agenda breaking down as he heads off on his first foreign trip, the gang talks about what it will take to get anything done in Washington. One person responsible for a great deal of stress for President Biden is Sen. Joe Manchin. Is he helping or hurting the Democrats? Plus, as U.S. forces begin to withdraw from Afghanistan, Sarah, Steve, Jonah, and David worry what will take its place. Finally: doom porn. Need we say more?
Show Notes:
-ProPublica tax story
-Politico’s story on Biden and Manchin’s ‘Joemance’
-Cicadas vs. the presidential press plane
-Joe Manchin: Why I'm voting against the For the People Act
-Are We Destined for a Trump Coup in 2024? - Ross Douthat
-Americans Are Dangerously Divided on the Insurrection - William Saletan
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6/9/2021 • 1 hour, 5 minutes, 43 seconds
The Origin of Coronavirus
The politicization of the China lab-leak theory has only gotten worse as more and more information surrounding it comes out. To talk about why that is, and the merits of the theory itself, is Josh Rogin of the Washington Post. Rogin has been doggedly reporting on this very subject and even wrote a book about it.
Show Notes:
-Chaos Under Heaven by Josh Rogin
-Josh’s Twitter page
-Josh’s Washington Post page
-Josh’s story on unsafe Wuhan lab
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6/4/2021 • 50 minutes, 32 seconds
Our Afghan Interpreters Need More From Us
Last week this podcast talked about Belarusian dictator Alexander Lukashenko scrambling a military jet to force down a Ryanair flight carrying a dissident journalist. Now, as more reporting reveals how involved Russian President Vladimir Putin was, Steve asks whether President Biden should be holding a summit with Putin in a few weeks. Also in the foreign policy vein, Jonah laments the fact that translators who have been helping the U.S. military in the Middle East aren’t able to get the help they need to remain safe. Plus, check out the discussion on the merits of ranked-choice voting and Ezra Klein’s interview with President Barack Obama.
Show Notes:
-Putin summit announcement
-Biden floats sending Iran money after 9/11
-Interpreters may be left behind
-How does ranked-choice voting work?
-TMD on New York City mayor’s race
-Ezra Klien interviews Barack Obama
-Obama’s ‘guns, religion’ line
-Then She Asked Me About Benghazi - Ben Rhodes
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6/2/2021 • 1 hour, 12 minutes, 5 seconds
Guns in America
King of the gun beat and founder of The Reload Stephen Gutowski joins Sarah and Steve to talk about all things gun related on today’s episode. The topic of guns induces plenty of passion, and comes with plenty of stereotypes and myths. Stephen, Sarah, and Steve talk about all of that, plus gun culture in America, the politics of guns, the NRA, and more. Stick around to the end to hear what Stephen thinks action movies are getting things wrong about guns.
Show Notes:
-Subscribe to The Reload
-Gun ownership rising
-Gallup historical polling on guns
-We’re out of ammo
-Stephen’s piece for The Dispatch
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5/28/2021 • 1 hour, 4 minutes, 1 second
The Politics of Stank
With Biden’s legislative agenda coming up against many roadblocks in Congress, Sarah, Steve, David, and Jonah debate which one of Biden’s main objectives will actually be made into law. Then, the gang explains even though Florida’s new “anti-Big Tech” law is likely to be unconstitutional, it could be a political win for DeSantis and anyone else who hitches their wagon to taking on Big Tech. Also in an extended, well-informed discussion about the violent crime spike, The Dispatch Podcast-ers talk about how we got in this situation, how to get out of it, and the politics of crime. Finally, Putin and leaders in Belarus have taken drastic measures to muzzle a journalist critical of the Belarusian dictator Alexander Lukashenko, and the group discusses whether the threat of nuclear war is warranted to get the journalist back.
Show Notes:
The French Press on Florida’s anti-Big Tech law
Could you beat a grizzly bear in unarmed combat?
Violent crime spike
No one wants to be a cop
David’s French Press on the Columbus police shooting
The Morning Dispatch on Belarus’ plane hijacking
Taiwan is a country
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5/26/2021 • 1 hour, 19 minutes, 18 seconds
GOP Turns on January 6 Commission
After being the only candidate to run against Rep. Elise Stefanik in a bid to replace Rep. Liz Cheney as the No. 3 House GOP leader, Rep. Chip Roy joins Sarah and Steve in this week’s episode. This wide-ranging interview touches on the January 6 commission, how Republican voters perceive the party, the Cheney ousting, and potential 2024 Republican presidential candidates.
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5/21/2021 • 59 minutes, 57 seconds
The Politics of Israel and Palestine
The Israel/Palestine conflict has yet to cool down, but the rhetoric around the ongoing skirmish is heating up in the U.S. The gang talks about the pressure on Biden to help with the situation abroad. Plus, it seems as though a commission to look at the events at the U.S. Capitol on January 6 might not be getting much GOP support, if any at all. Sarah, Steve, David, and Jonah try to figure out who is to blame for that. David educates everyone on the abortion case the Supreme Court will be hearing, and the gang discusses the debate over the origins of COVID-19.
Show Notes:
-DNC boos Israel language
-January 6 was just a “normal tourist day”
-Pictures of Rep. Clyde blocking the doors into the Capitol
-Advisory Opinions on SCOTUS abortion case
-Historic polling on abortion - Gallup
-How Abortion Views Are Different - David Leonhardt
-Origins of Covid - Following the Clues
-Josh Rogin’s Twitter
-Don McNeil’s Lab Leak Story
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5/19/2021 • 1 hour, 15 minutes, 19 seconds
Liz Cheney Makes Her Case
Minutes after New York Rep. Elise Stefanik was elected the House GOP’s new conference chairwoman, her predecessor, Wyoming Rep. Liz Cheney joined Sarah and Steve on today’s show to chat about the 2022 midterms, the future of the Republican Party, and the factors that precipitated her ousting from GOP leadership. Tune in to hear Cheney talk to our hosts about her relationships with her colleagues and why she won’t stop pushing back against the former president’s claims that the election was stolen: “Fundamentally for me, at the end of the day, if being on House leadership on the Republican side requires the embrace of that lie, that’s not something I’m willing to participate in.”
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5/14/2021 • 39 minutes, 34 seconds
Republicans Make Their Choice
With so much going on in the news this week, it’s hard to pick one headline. Is it Liz Cheney being ousted from her leadership role for telling the truth? Or the fact that a major oil pipeline was attacked by ransomware? Or maybe the ongoing conflict between Israel and Palestine heating up and heating up fast? The gang discuss all of those topics and why a rise in independent voters may not actually be a good thing.
Show Notes:
-Cheney speech on the House floor
-Cheney after her removal
-Why more independents is actually bad
-Latest version of “The Sweep”
-“Doom” by Niall Ferguson
-The Remnant with Klon Kitchen
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5/13/2021 • 1 hour, 1 minute, 30 seconds
House GOP Set to Oust Cheney
With Rep. Liz Cheney’s days as the No. 3 ranking House GOP official numbered, Sarah and Steve are joined by The Dispatch’s own Haley Byrd Wilt and Audrey Fahlberg to talk about what that means for the party. Next Wednesday, the Republican caucus will meet and a vote to oust Cheney is expected to take place. The four lay out what they see happening on Wednesday and what they expect the aftermath may be.
Show Notes:
-Haley’s latest Uphill
-Audrey’s piece from the GOP Orlando retreat
-Elise Stefanik on Steve Bannon’s show
-Ruthless Podcast
-Steve’s piece on the GOP leadership issues
-Liz Cheney’s op-ed in the Washington Post
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5/7/2021 • 51 minutes, 30 seconds
All By Herself
The fight over who is in and who is out within the GOP leadership has reached a boiling point. Rep. Liz Cheney, who survived a vote in February to oust her from her leadership position, may not be there much longer. Sarah and the guys break down what’s happening and how much of a chance Cheney has to survive another attempt to replace her. Also, the special election in Texas shows a weak spot for Democrats, Jonah asks the group if competitiveness even matters in the global economy, and the gang discusses what happens next in the fight against COVID-19 now that the U.S. seems to be hitting a vaccine hesitancy wall.
Show Notes:
-Steve’s piece on GOP leadership fight
-Former President Trump’s statement on Liz Cheney
-Audrey’s piece from the GOP retreat in Orlando
-Texas 6th District special election results
-The Sweep on the Texas 6th special election
-Declan’s piece on cancel culture
-Jonah’s column on the “New New Deal”
-“The Liberals Who Can’t Quit Lockdown” - The Atlantic
-Mali woman gives birth to not seven, but nine babies
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5/5/2021 • 1 hour, 9 minutes, 50 seconds
George W. Bush Paints E Pluribus Unum
Former President George W. Bush has done a number of interviews recently to promote his new book, “Out of Many, One: Portraits of America’s Immigrants,” but none have covered as many topics as Sarah Isgur and Steve Hayes covered with him on The Dispatch Podcast. President Bush touches on everything from his strategy going into painting a portrait, the impact immigrants have on the United States, the future of the Republican Party, and even President Biden’s massive spending spree in his first 100 days in office.
Show Notes:
-“Out of Many, One: Portraits of America’s Immigrants” by George W. Bush
-Transcript of our interview with former President George W. Bush
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4/30/2021 • 44 minutes, 2 seconds
The First 100 Days
Today’s episode starts off talking about every political junkie’s favorite arbitrary threshold, a presidential administration’s first 100 days. Hear what everyone thinks are the Biden administration’s greatest strengths and weaknesses. The gang debates what’s the most important aspect of the John Kerry leaking info to Iran story and how the U.S. Census will affect our politics and our country going forward. Then, stick around to hear if everything has gone to [BLEEP].
Show Notes:
-Vice President Joe “put y’all back in chains” Biden
-President Joe “worse than Jim Crow” Biden
-Biden likes the FDR comparisons
-Iran’s Foreign Minister, in Leaked Tape, Says Revolutionary Guards Set Policies - New York Times
-U.S. Census Report
-TMD on the census
-Advisory Opinions podcast page
-The Remnant podcast page
-Stirewalt’s latest from The Dispatch
-The G.O.P. Is Getting Even Worse - David Brooks
-Latest French Press
-New York Post reporter claims she was forced to write fake story, resigns
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4/28/2021 • 1 hour, 17 minutes, 12 seconds
Sentencing Derek Chauvin
Now that Derek Chauvin has been found guilty of murder, what happens next? Sarah flies solo on today’s podcast in an interview with former United States Attorney in the Office for the Eastern District of Virginia Zach Terwilliger to talk about just that. Sarah and Zach break down all of the legal jargon you may hear about this case and explain what to watch out for next in Derek Chauvin’s sentencing. Plus, Zach offers some advice to all of the wannabe federal prosecutors out there.
Show Notes:
-Zach Terwilliger Bio Page
-Judge in Chauvin case talking about Maxine Waters
-Definitions of manslaughter and degrees of murder
-Minnesota Supreme Court/Chauvin case explainer
-Women’s hockey coach assault case
-Advisory Opinions podcast
-DOJ announcement on Minneapolis PD
-5 Minutes with Michele Roberts
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4/23/2021 • 48 minutes, 1 second
A Guilty Verdict in Minneapolis
People across the political spectrum had all sorts of different reactions to Officer Derek Chauvin being found guilty on all three charges in the death of George Floyd in Minnesota. Jonah says most of those reactions have been far from encouraging, “While a lot of the right-wing reaction makes me ashamed and embarrassed and infuriated and disgusted … a lot of the left-wing reaction, or a lot of the MSNBC reaction, has been very bad, too.” Plus, the gang also discusses Biden’s plan to withdraw from Afghanistan and how the news of Officer Brian Sicknick’s cause of death will affect the history of January 6, and Chris Stirewalt explains the Cook Political Report’s new Partisan Voter Index.
Show Notes:
-Derek Chauvin found guilty
-The 1619 Project
-David’s French Press on racism in America, adopting a black daughter
-President Biden’s remarks on withdrawing from Afghanistan
-Latest casualty status from the Defense Department
-Cook Political Report’s Partisan Voter Index
-Latest Sweep from Sarah, Chris, and Andrew
-Officer Brian Sicknick dies of stroke
-Sohrab Ahmari’s tweet on January 6
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4/21/2021 • 1 hour, 14 minutes, 8 seconds
Jesus and Evangelical Politics
Sarah and David (who is stepping in for Steve this week) talk to the author of Jesus and John Wayne: How White Evangelicals Corrupted a Faith and Fractured a Nation, Kristin Du Mez, about how the definition of masculinity for white Evangelical men has had a damaging impact on the whole country. “Once you have the eyes to see this, it’s hard not to see its pervasive reach,” she said. “The politics and the faith are so intertwined, and that’s what I try to pull through, those threads, and see how the influence really does go back and forth.” Plus, find out what friendly, neighborhood, sweater-wearing, former PBS television star is surprisingly not impressive to the mainstream Evangelical community.
Show Notes:
-Jesus and John Wayne: How White Evangelicals Corrupted a Faith and Fractured a Nation
-Kristin’s Blog “The Anxious Bench”
-Kristin’s next book on Christian femininity announcement
-Kristin’s Twitter
-Donald Trump riding a velociraptor
-Kristin’s Faculty page at Calvin University
-“A Man For All Seasons”
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4/16/2021 • 1 hour, 7 minutes, 29 seconds
Johnson & Johnson Vaccine on Hold
This week, the FDA decided to pause the Johnson & Johnson vaccine following reports that six women—of the nearly 7 million Americans who have received the J&J vaccine—developed serious blood clots after getting the jab. Is pausing the vaccine worth the tradeoffs? Will the FDA’s move fuel vaccine hesitancy? Sarah, David, Chris and Jonah give us the scoop. Today, our hosts also chat about New York Times columnist Ross Douthat’s latest piece on what Bidenism owes to Trumpism, the GOP’s First Amendment retribution against woke corporations, and what Democratic pollsters have learned from their poor electoral forecasting leading up to the 2020 election.
Show Notes:
-“What Bidenism Owes to Trumpism,” by Ross Douthat in the New York Times.
-“Confronting 2016 and 2020 Polling Limitations” by Pew Research Center.
-“How Trump Steered Supporters Into Unwitting Donations” by Shane Goldmacher in the New York Times.
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4/14/2021 • 59 minutes, 53 seconds
The Treasure of the Scout Mindset
Are you a “scout” or a “soldier”? What do those terms even mean? In Julia Galef’s new book, The Scout Mindset, she argues the scout mindset is underrepresented in today’s world. “The scout’s role, unlike the soldier, is not to go out and attack or defend,” she says. “It’s to go out, and see what’s really out there as clearly as possible and to put together as accurate a map of the territory or a situation as you can.” Plus, listen closely for Steve’s John McLaughlin impression and why Julia believes bouncing between Airbnbs is way better than signing an actual lease.
Show Notes:
-“The Scout Mindset” by Julia Galef
-Rationally Speaking Podcast
-Julia Galef on Twitter
-Julia’s TED Talk
-The Dispatch Manifesto
-Dr. Tom Gilovich
-Julia’s Twitter thread about Airbnbs
-Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality
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4/9/2021 • 1 hour, 17 minutes, 41 seconds
Defining Infrastructure
If it’s a day that ends in “Y” in Washington, it’s probably a day during “infrastructure week.” The gang talks about President Biden’s infrastructure bill and debates whether or not it’s fair to call it an “infrastructure” bill. Plus, what should the U.S. do about the continued aggression coming from China and Russia, and the differences in voting laws in Georgia and Colorado. Finally, the controversy surrounding a 60 Minutes piece on Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis and whether or not “media bias” is the worst it’s ever been.
Show Notes:
-POLITICO’s Playbook on infrastructure
-What is Starlink?
-TMD on Russian aggression in Ukraine
-Danielle Pletka’s latest for The Dispatch on Chinese aggression towards Australia
-Oriana Skylar Mastro on The Remnant
-The Washington Post Editorial on boycotting the Olympics
-Atlanta Journal-Constitution Georgia/Colorado voting laws comparison
-60 Minutes and Gov. Ron DeSantis - Poynter
-Trump donors - The New York Times
-“Why Being ‘Anti-Media’ Is Now Part Of The GOP Identity” - FiveThirtyEight
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4/7/2021 • 1 hour, 25 minutes, 34 seconds
Mick Mulvaney and the Reasonable Nutjobs
In a wide-ranging conversation spanning from his time working in the Trump White House, to his early days as a leader in the House Freedom Caucus (which we learned was supposed to be called the “Reasonable Nutjob Caucus), Mick Mulvaney talks with Sarah and Steve about his life in politics. During the conversation, Mulvaney opines on John Boehner’s new book, what being chief of staff is actually like, whether or not he would have voted to impeach Donald Trump after January 6 and more. Plus, stick around for some tough questions from his fellow South Carolinian Trey Gowdy.
Show Notes:
-Mick Mulvaney on Twitter
-John Boehner’s book excerpt from Politico
-If He Loses, Trump Will Concede Gracefully - WSJ
-Indiana Jones character or Mick Mulvaney?
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4/2/2021 • 1 hour, 9 minutes, 18 seconds
Infrastructure Push and Bumpy Roads
President Biden introduced a massive $2 trillion infrastructure plan in Pittsburgh, and the gang is wondering what type of fight the GOP is going to put up against the bill. Steve asks, “You’d think this might be something Republicans would object to and fight pretty strongly. Are you getting the sense that Republicans will do that?” To hear everyone’s dejected response to that question, just hit the play button. Other topics discussed are whether or not vaccine passports are a good idea, the first rumblings of 2024 presidential politics, and, finally, religion in America and what the growing number of “nones” means for the country’s future.
Show Notes:
-The latest version of The Sweep (read the whole thing!)
-Politico polling on infrastructure plan
-Israel’s vaccine passport protocols
-Echelon Insights 2024 presidential polling
-U.S. church membership falls below majority for first time - Gallup
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3/31/2021 • 1 hour, 7 minutes, 34 seconds
Coronavirus, Variants, and Vaccines
We heard from many of you that you are having trouble persuading people close to you to take the COVID vaccine. You wished there was something you could pass along to people with the actual facts about the vaccine, not scary myths about why a person should not get it. You asked, and we listened. Former CDC Director Dr. Tom Frieden joined Sarah and Andrew Egger (subbing in for Steve) to discuss all things vaccine related. Not only is Frieden an expert on the COVID vaccines, but also on listening to those who are concerned about taking it and trying to give them the scientific facts that support getting the shot. As he says, “Effective communication starts with listening. … I understand your concern, but I’ll share with you some information that may be helpful to you.”
Show Notes:
-Dr. Frieden’s bio
-Resolve to Save Lives website
-Pew Research polling on who would get the vaccine
-Frank Luntz focus group with Dr. Frieden
-Impact COVID has had on the flu
-Dr. Frieden’s guide to a bike trip with his son
-VaccineFinder from CDC’s website
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3/26/2021 • 42 minutes, 49 seconds
The World as It Is
This week (so far) we have seen a mass shooting, a crisis at the border, a major walkback from President Trump’s favorite lawyer, Sidney Powell, and more. On today’s Dispatch Podcast, Steve, Sarah, Jonah, and David talk about all of it and then some. Gun violence has been front and center in the news, and rather than yelling about it, the gang has a well-informed, meaningful discussion about how best to solve this problem in the U.S. Plus, after discussing the border and China, all four talk about just how ridiculous the motion by Sidney Powell to dismiss the case against her is and what it means for center-right media. As Jonah puts it, “If you gave her a platform on your network, on your radio show, either in person or by proxy or simply reading their stuff and then you don’t tell your audience that this woman … has treated you all like suckers … then you’re part of the problem.”
Show Notes:
-Study on effectiveness of state gun regulations
-American Psychological Association study on gun laws
-Washington Post Fact Check on 1994 assault weapons ban
-Reuters article on how and why kids are “smuggled” into the U.S.
-Is there a “surge” at the border? Washington Post looks at the data
-Jonah’s column on the China bilateral meeting
-Last week’s Dispatch Podcast with Danielle Pletka
-The Morning Dispatch: ‘The Kraken is Backtrackin’
-Court filing in Sidney Powell’s case
-Major Biden is BACK
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3/24/2021 • 1 hour, 24 minutes, 50 seconds
Speak Loudly and Carry No Stick?
Danielle Pletka, senior fellow and foreign policy expert at the American Enterprise Institute, joins Sarah and Steve to discuss all things foreign policy. The conversation starts with the fiasco that was the first bilateral meeting between the Biden administration and China, and then focuses on Pletka’s expertise related to foreign policy in the Middle East. The three also discuss Danielle’s recent piece for The Dispatch, a conversation she had with a Ph.D. candidate who was imprisoned in Iran for four years.
Show Notes:
-Danielle’s AEI page
-“What the Hell is Going On?” podcast
-Biden Administration/China bilateral fiasco
-Biden/Putin spat
-‘They Wasted Away Four Years of My Life’
-“How Mean Tweets—And Bad Predictions—Threaten to Derail Another Biden Nominee”
-Profile of Xiyue Wang by Graeme Wood
-“Internal Biden memo said to back 2-state solution along 1967 lines” - Times of Israel
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3/19/2021 • 1 hour, 1 minute, 36 seconds
Migrant Surge at the Border
In a St. Patrick’s Day edition of The Dispatch Podcast, Sarah, Steve, Scott, and Declan start off today’s discussion with the ongoing migrant crisis at the border. Plus, the gang explains how while most of the conservative world was talking about Dr. Seuss and Pepe le Pew, Democrats jammed through the biggest advancement of the welfare state since LBJ’s administration. Scott points out, “When you really dig into the details you see Democrats laying the groundwork for a very substantial increase in the welfare state, and in ways that Democrats have long wanted.” And, what’s the fallout after a Biden administration official actually spoke strongly against the North Korean regime?
Show Notes:
-The latest GOP attack on Biden has a huge hole in it - Greg Sargent/Washington Post
-Four people matching terror watchlist arrested at border - Axios
-'Migrant president' Biden stirs Mexican angst over boom time for gangs - Reuters
-Leaked NRSC polling data on immigration
-Scott’s latest Capitolism newsletter
-Conservatives Drift Leftward in the Plan to Rescue America - Ryan Streeter
-Biden officials comments on North Korea
-Biden Risks Repeating Mistakes of the Past if He Ignores the Evidence on Iran - The Dispatch
-Declan’s TMD item on filibuster reform
-Scott’s “Gridlock is good!” newsletter
-The Dispatch March Madness Tournament
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3/17/2021 • 1 hour, 24 minutes, 43 seconds
Always. Be. Shilling.
For the first time on The Dispatch Podcast, author of the Capitolism newsletter and neoliberal shill extraordinaire Scott Lincicome joins Sarah and Declan. On topics ranging from free-market fundamentalism to the crazy world of semiconductors, Scott brings his expertise to break it all down. As he says on today’s episode, “You know, Glengarry Glen Ross? It’s Always. Be. Shilling. … I will literally make any issue about trade and markets. It doesn’t matter what, whether it’s the chicken sandwich wars … or cheap T-shirts.” To cap it off, Scott speaks to being the reigning champion of the “Neoliberalism Shill'' tournament.
Show Notes:
-“Capitolism” newsletter
-Scott’s Cato bio
-Scott’s Twitter profile
-Scott’s latest Cato paper “Manufactured Crisis”
-Declan’s piece on semiconductors in TMD
-Scott’s article on semiconductors
-Vote your conscience in this year’s Neoliberal Shill Tournament
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3/12/2021 • 1 hour, 10 minutes, 17 seconds
The Battle Over H.R. 1
Congressional Democrats’ omnibus voting rights, campaign finance, and ethics bill, H.R. 1—also known as the “For the People Act”—passed in the House last week, and our hosts are here for the breakdown. Stay tuned to hear the gang chat about retirements in the GOP Senate, whether arguments about cancel culture are trumping more substantive public policy debates, and a surprise tabloid-y topic you won’t want to miss!
Show Notes:
-Democrats’ For the People Act and Republicans’ Save Democracy Act.
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3/10/2021 • 1 hour, 18 minutes, 46 seconds
The Once and Future Right
The Dispatch’s associate editor and Morning Dispatch guru Declan Garvey joins Sarah to ask Oren Cass what his mission is with American Compass, a center-right organization of which he is the executive director. Cass thinks it’s time the conservative movement reforms itself and he is trying to do so from within. Cass says, “What has been missing from American politics and policy making is a conservatism that takes seriously the ways that public policy could really take on and address failures in our markets and things that are not going well in the economy.” Chief among the issues debated in this episode is Sen. Mitt Romney’s new child allowance proposal. The trio also discusses what Donald Trump’s lasting legacy will be in the Republican Party, and what it would mean for the party if he won again.
Show Notes:
-American Compass website
-“The Once and Future Worker” by Oren Cass
-Sen. Mitt Romney’s child allowance plan
-Oren Cass’ op-ed in the New York Times
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3/5/2021 • 58 minutes, 30 seconds
The Politics of Relief
The Senate is set to debate the Biden administration’s COVID-19 relief package this week, and today the gang talks about the politics of getting it passed. Steve posits the administration’s strategy is more focused on public opinion, rather than what Republicans want: “They say ‘we care about bipartisanship outside the beltway, not inside the beltway.’” Along with the relief bill, the group discusses the ongoing situation in Afghanistan and debates whether an “endless war” in the country is a good idea or a bad one. Jonah and Sarah disagree on how important voting actually is. And finally, some good old-fashioned election punditry. The hosts talk about the strategy memo that came out from the GOP on how to retake the House in 2022.
Show Notes:
-The Remnant with Michael Strain
-Morning Consult polling on COVID stimulus
-“Last Exit From Afghanistan” by Dexter Firkins
-SCOTUSblog write up of the Arizona voting rights case
-House GOP 2022 strategy memo
-Democratic Party autopsy - New York magazine
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3/3/2021 • 1 hour, 12 minutes, 29 seconds
Coronavirus and the Return to Normalcy
Is the Biden administration bungling their Covid-19 and vaccine messaging? As Steve put it to Jonah, “It’s awfully cynical of you to suggest that what they’re doing is withholding information because they want to pass their emergency relief bill, and you’re absolutely right to be that cynical.” Also up for discussion: why Xavier Becerra should have been the Biden nominee to have gotten the Neera Tanden treatment instead of Neera Tanden, U.S. relations with Iran and why Republicans who are not Trump loyalists cannot simply turn into Democrats.
Show Notes:
-The Case Against Xavier Becerra - The Dispatch’s David French
-Audacity: How Barack Obama Defied His Critics and Created a Legacy That Will Prevail - Jonathan Chait
-What about Joe? - Bill Kristol
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2/25/2021 • 1 hour, 3 minutes, 52 seconds
Mitt Romney Has a Plan
Hot off of his latest policy proposal, Sen. Mitt Romney joins the podcast to discuss his and Sen. Tom Cotton’s plan to raise the minimum wage, a proposal that also mandates that businesses use E-verify to prevent the hiring of undocumented workers. Sarah asks him about partisanship in the Senate, what he thinks of the current state of the Republican Party, and whether he’ll start a third party. He said, “There’s no question I’m in the minority of the Republican party these days. … A lot of people talk about ‘Why don’t you start a third party?’ That’s just not realistic.” Then, the gang breaks down the interview. Everyone agrees that it’s nice to finally be talking about policy again. They also explore why Romney (and some others) is committed to staying in the Republican Party.
Show Notes:
-Romney’s Office Press Release - Minimum Wage Plan
-Is It Time for the Republican Party to Split Apart? - The Dispatch’s Declan Garvey
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2/24/2021 • 51 minutes, 44 seconds
China and the Uighur Genocide
In a call with European foreign ministers on Thursday, Secretary of State Antony J. Blinken said he would begin steps to restore the 2015 Iran nuclear deal that was abandoned by the Trump administration. Today’s guest, Tom Josclelyn, thinks a series of upfront concessions to Tehran before the country’s leaders even come to the negotiating table would be an unwise foreign policy move for the Biden administration. “I’ve taken to calling it ‘servile diplomacy’ because it is very much from a submissive position,”Joscelyn tells Sarah and Steve. Tune in to hear our hosts’ take on China’s ongoing genocide against the Uighurs in Xinjiang, and the latest rocket attack on a U.S. airbase in Iraq.
Show Notes:
-“Biden Administration Formally Offers to Restart Nuclear Talks With Iran” by Lara Jakes, Michael Crowley, David E. Sanger and Farnaz Fassihi in the New York Times.
-“Biden dismisses Uighur genocide as part of China’s ‘different norms’” by Emily Jacobs in the New York Post.
-“‘Genocide’ is the wrong word for the horrors of Xinjiang” by the Economist.
-Tom Joscelyn’s Vital Interests newsletter.
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2/19/2021 • 1 hour, 3 minutes, 13 seconds
The Grapes of Play-Acting
At the beginning of the pandemic, Democratic Gov. Andrew Cuomo of New York drew ire from lawmakers of all political stripes for sending COVID-19 positive patients back into nursing homes. But resentment against the governor reached a tipping point in late January, when New York Attorney General Letitia James released a blistering report showing that his office significantly underreported the number of COVID-19 deaths in New York nursing homes. Cuomo has brushed aside those criticisms as a partisan smear campaign, and went so far as to write a book bragging about his leadership during the pandemic. “What is unforgivable, and really, frankly, kind of evil is this alleged covering up of what they did,” Jonah says on today’s show. Tune in to hear the gang chat about K-12 school reopening efforts, the Senate’s acquittal of Donald Trump, and Tim Alberta’s Nikki Haley piece in Politico. Stick around to hear our hosts chat about their Myers Briggs test results.
Show Notes:
-American Crisis: Leadership Lessons from the COVID-19 Pandemic by Andrew Cuomo.
-“Nikki Haley’s Time for Choosing” by Tim Alberta in Politico.
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2/18/2021 • 1 hour, 21 minutes, 22 seconds
Children, Classrooms, and Coronavirus
President Joe Biden has recently drawn ire from GOP lawmakers for lagging behind his stated goal of getting K-12 children back into the classroom for in-person instruction. Liesl Hickey, a partner at Ascent Media and co-founder of N2 America, joins the show to chat with Sarah and Steve about teachers unions, remote learning’s effect on student well-being, and whether the NRSC will play a bigger role in GOP primaries during the next election cycle.
Show Notes:
-“Remote learning failed my third-grader miserably. I pulled her out of public school.” by Liesl Hickey in USA Today.
-“Surge of Student Suicides Pushes Las Vegas Schools to Reopen” by Erica L. Green in The New York Times.
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2/12/2021 • 35 minutes, 27 seconds
Anatomy of an Impeachment Trial
We’re on day two of the Senate’s second impeachment trial of Donald Trump and our hosts are here for the breakdown. On Tuesday, the House impeachment managers released a video montage of January 6 in an effort to tie former President Trump’s rhetoric and words to the storming of the Capitol. “[The video] had in many ways the effect that displaying a crime scene photograph has on a criminal trial,” David explains. “It tried to make it real again.” Tune in to hear Sarah and the guys chat about the constitutionality of impeachment, the mechanics of the trial, and the persuasiveness of Trump’s defense team. Stick around to hear our hosts chat about what National Pizza Day means to them.
Show Notes:
-Senate Impeachment Trial: House Managers’ January 6 Video Montage.
-French Press: “The Impeachment Trial Vote Will Set a Precedent. Make It the Right One.” by David French in The Dispatch.
-Brandenburg v. Ohio
-“McConnell Signals Trump Conviction Is a GOP Conscience Vote” by Jennifer Jacobs in Bloomberg.
-“The Constitution Doesn’t Bar Trump’s Impeachment Trial” by Chuck Cooper in the Wall Street Journal.
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2/10/2021 • 1 hour, 15 minutes, 5 seconds
No Ragrets
Former Fox News Decision Desk team member Chris Stirewalt joins Sarah, Steve and Jonah to chat about GOP leadership members' struggle to police their own. Stick around for a chat about Joe Biden’s foreign policy agenda, Stirewalt’s take on why “the way America is getting its news is not working for America,” and … lima beans! And also for a very special announcement.
Show Notes:
-“How Kevin McCarthy fought off a party revolt” by Melanie Zanona in Politico.
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2/6/2021 • 1 hour, 2 minutes, 44 seconds
Right Thing for the Right Reasons
On the coronavirus stimulus package front, Biden has refused to compromise on his commitment to sending $1,400 checks to Americans. Is it wise for the president to push such a bill through Congress in spite of Republican opposition? As Steve argues on today’s episode, “If Joe Biden’s intransigence this early is pissing off people like Rob Portman and Anthony Gonzalez, that’s a tough place.” Also on the menu for today: GOP House Leader Kevin McCarthy’s intra-party spats with Rep. Liz Cheney, the media’s obsessive fixation on Republican Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene, and the United Kingdom’s decision to welcome Hong Kong citizens.
Show Notes:
-“The Challenge of Going It Alone” by Amy Walter in the Cook Political Report.
-“An Interview With Sen. Rob Portman” by Steve Hayes in The Dispatch.
-“Can We Have (Another) Conversation About Cancel Culture?” by David French in The Dispatch.
-“Republicans Are Playing a Risky Game in Elevating QAnon” by Jonah Goldberg in The Dispatch.
-“The GOP’s Conspiracy Theorist Problem” by Audrey Fahlberg in The Dispatch.
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2/3/2021 • 1 hour, 21 minutes, 52 seconds
One of Ten
Ohio Representative Anthony Gonzalez was one of only 10 GOP House members who voted for President Trump’s second impeachment, and he’s faced quite a bit of backlash from his constituents for doing so. “In the long arc of history, I believe it was the right vote, and I believe it sends the right message,” Congressman Gonzalez tells Sarah and Steve on today’s show. But Gonzalez still fears for the future of his party, especially considering most Republican voters still believe the election was stolen: “I don’t know how to govern in a world where we believe things that aren’t real.” Tune in to hear Gonzalez talk about social media censorship, our country’s crisis of leadership, and his former NFL career playing for the Indianapolis Colts.
Show Notes:
-Take our podcast survey
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1/29/2021 • 1 hour, 5 minutes, 27 seconds
Was That Wrong?
Biden administration folks are claiming they inherited a nonexistent coronavirus vaccine rollout plan from the Trump administration, with one anonymous administration official going so far as to tell CNN last week that the team will “have to build everything from scratch,” a claim that even top epidemiologist Dr. Anthony Fauci later disputed as patently false. Joe Biden spent months on the campaign trail criticizing Trump for deliberately misleading the public. Is his administration now falling into the same trap? “It’s a meaningful stumble,” Steve says on today’s podcast, “and I think they got caught basically misleading the public about the status of the vaccine program.” After Sarah and the guys chat about vaccine distribution logistics, they discuss Trump’s upcoming second impeachment trial, the media and its rewriting of history, and the latest drama with former DOJ officials in the Trump administration.
Show Notes:
-“Come on, President Biden. Set some loftier COVID vaccination goals” by Jonah Goldberg in the Los Angeles Times.
-“Biden inheriting nonexistent coronavirus vaccine distribution plan and must start 'from scratch,' sources say,” by CNN’s MJ Lee.
-“The Washington Post Tried To Memory-Hole Kamala Harris' Bad Joke About Inmates Begging for Food and Water” by Eric Boehm in Reason.
-The New York Times Magazine’s 1619 Project.
-“Send In the Troops” by Sen. Tom Cotton in the New York Times.
-Take our podcast survey
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1/27/2021 • 1 hour, 7 minutes, 32 seconds
The Next Four Years
Will Joe Biden’s governing strategy be effective? “I don’t think Biden has ever been driven on ideological issues, what he’s driven on is keeping his party together,” NBC’s Chuck Todd tells Sarah and Steve on today’s episode. “There is a part of me that says Biden can be the Reagan for Democrats.” How does the filibuster fit into the president’s call for unity? Is Joe Biden really a centrist? What role will Kamala Harris play in this administration? Todd answers all of these questions and more. Stick around for their thoughts on the Democrats’ $15 minimum wage proposal, the future of immigration reform, Biden’s relationship with Congress, and the evolution of cable news over the years.
Show Notes:
-“Biden's centrist words, liberal actions” by Dion Rabouin, Courtenay Brown, and Jennifer A. Kingson in Axios.
-Take our podcast survey
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1/22/2021 • 54 minutes, 14 seconds
America's Next Chapter
Joe Biden was officially sworn in as the 46th president of the United States on Wednesday. He assumes office at one of the darkest moments in United States history, when a global pandemic has taken the lives of more than 400,000 Americans and rampant polarization continues to test our nation’s character. Did his inaugural address meet the moment? Was his call for unity too idealistic? On today’s episode, our hosts discuss Biden’s day one executive orders and the once and future Republican Party before breaking down today’s inauguration ceremony, speech and all.
Show Notes:
-“Biden's Two Tasks: Repairing Deep Divisions and Defeating a Deadly Disease” by David French in The Dispatch.
-Take our podcast survey
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1/21/2021 • 1 hour, 23 minutes, 57 seconds
Mr. Meijer Goes to Washington
“I was proud that after the assault on the Capitol, we were back in the chambers a few hours later,” freshman GOP Rep. Peter Meijer from Michigan’s 3rd District tells Sarah and Steve on today’s episode. “There was someone’s blood drying, right? And we’re going back to work to send the message that our constitutional process—it got erupted—but you’re not gonna scare us away.” Rep. Meijer—who holds Justin Amash’s old seat—joined today’s show to discuss what it was like certifying the Electoral College vote, evacuating the House chamber on January 6 amid the Capitol siege, and undergoing impeachment proceedings just days after being sworn into office.
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1/15/2021 • 54 minutes, 34 seconds
A President's Final Days
“The President of the United States summoned this mob, assembled the mob, and lit the flame of this attack,” said Rep. Liz Cheney late Tuesday afternoon. “Everything that followed was his doing.” This week, our hosts discuss the brewing showdown over impeachment between Cheney—the House’s No.3 Republican—and Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy. How does one party accommodate vastly different levels of acquiescence to a rogue president? What is the value of impeachment and conviction over censure? Should the president be pardoned after conviction in a concession to Republicans? To David, one thing is clear: “He needs to be so thoroughly defeated in the here and now that there is no possibility of a later,” he says. “He has to be deplatformed, he has to be defeated, and he has to be discredited.”
Show Notes:
-Take our podcast survey
-Amazon filing in response to Parler’s lawsuit, citing violent content
-Rep. Liz Cheney’s statement in support of impeachment
-Video from Capitol Hill riot
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1/13/2021 • 1 hour, 10 minutes, 11 seconds
Almost Inevitable
Wednesday’s storming of the Capitol should not have come as a surprise to anyone who has paid attention to Donald Trump’s election-related conspiracy-mongering in the weeks since November 3. Politico’s chief political correspondent Tim Alberta has been interacting with Trump supporters for months now and joins today’s show to explain why Wednesday’s Capitol siege was almost inevitable: “What we saw at every step of the way was a coordinated and deliberate campaign” by the president, high ranking Republicans, and far-right media personalities “to deceive the American public,” Alberta tells Sarah and Steve.
Show Notes:
-“Jan. 6 Was 9 Weeks — And 4 Years — in the Making” by Tim Alberta in Politico.
-American Carnage: On the Front Lines of the Republican Civil War and the Rise of President Trump by Tim Alberta.
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1/8/2021 • 37 minutes, 18 seconds
No Such Thing as Rock Bottom
Was Wednesday’s storming of the Capitol by Trump rally-goers inevitable? Should President Trump be impeached? Where does the Republican Party go from here? Our staff members have been warning about the dangers of Trumpism long before The Dispatch was launched in October 2019. But as David says, “never has vindication felt so miserable.” After all, as he points out, “the vindication was while the republic was under direct attack.” On today’s episode, Sarah and the guys break down the series of events that led to yesterday’s violence. Andrew and Audrey join the show to discuss their on-the-ground reporting at the Capitol on Wednesday, where they spent all day interviewing rally attendees.
Show Notes:
-“The Storming of the Capitol” by Andrew Egger and Audrey Fahlberg in The Dispatch.
-“Impeach Donald Trump, Remove Him, and Bar Him From Holding Office Ever Again” by The Dispatch staff.
-“We in the ‘shallow state’ thought we could help. Instead, we obscured the reality of a Trump presidency.” by Sarah Isgur in the Washington Post.
-“A Day at the Million MAGA March” by Audrey Fahlberg in The Dispatch.
-“If He Loses, Trump Will Concede Gracefully,” by Mick Mulvaney in the Wall Street Journal.
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1/8/2021 • 1 hour, 14 minutes, 47 seconds
Sitting Here on Capitol Hill
House Democrats are heading into next year with the slimmest majority either party has seen in two decades. How might this shape intra-party relations among Democrats moving forward? “The new dynamic will force Democratic leaders to change their tactics, both in drafting bills and in reining in the rank and file,” Haley Byrd Wilt writes in her debut piece for the website. Haley joined Sarah and Steve on today’s show to forecast these shifting dynamics as we approach the 117th Congress. Stick around for a breakdown of the latest drama in the House Republican conference, Donald Trump’s NDAA veto threat, and whether Congress can avert a government shutdown.
Show Notes:
-“Democrats Grapple With Slim House Majority” by Haley Byrd Wilt in The Dispatch.
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12/18/2020 • 50 minutes, 46 seconds
Somebody's Wrong Online
In the weeks following November 3, a surprising number of state Republican parties have made it their mission to attack any high ranking GOP officials in their state who have certified or somehow acknowledged Joe Biden’s electoral victory over President Trump. How will this GOP infighting play out over the next few months? Declan joins Sarah, David, and Jonah on today’s show to discuss his new piece on the site explaining this strange phenomenon, with a close look at Arizona and Georgia in particular. Stick around to hear our hosts discuss the 2021 races they are keeping an eye on, all things Hunter Biden, and Joseph Epstein’s controversial Wall Street Journal op-ed about Jill Biden.
Show Notes:
-“Begun, the GOP Civil War Has” by Declan Garvey in The Dispatch.
-“Is There a Doctor in the White House? Not if You Need an M.D.” by Joseph Epstein in the Wall Street Journal.
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12/16/2020 • 1 hour, 17 minutes, 41 seconds
Mess with Texas?
How might the Supreme Court respond to Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton’s lawsuit contesting the results of the election? Why did so many House members and state attorneys general file amicus briefs in support of the lawsuit? Is Paxton’s legal effort just a political stunt? On today’s episode, Sarah and Steve are joined by Ilya Shapiro—director of the Robert A. Levy Center for Constitutional Studies at the Cato Institute and publisher of the Cato Supreme Court Review—for the breakdown.
Show Notes:
-Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton’s new lawsuit against Pennsylvania, Georgia, Michigan, and Wisconsin.
-106 House Republicans sign amicus brief supporting Texas lawsuit and Chip Roy’s tweet thread explaining why he will not join Texas’s lawsuit.
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12/11/2020 • 30 minutes, 32 seconds
Norms!
The Supreme Court denied injunctive relief on Tuesday to Pennsylvania Rep. Mike Kelly in a one-sentence order that unceremoniously ended the Republican lawmaker’s bid to overturn his state’s election results. “What distinguished this case was it actually had an interesting question of law in it,” David argues on today’s show, in reference to the Pennsylvania state legislature’s alleged violation of the state’s constitution in 2019. That Rep. Kelly brought this lawsuit after the presidential election was another question entirely, David concedes, as was Kelly’s requested remedy. On the menu for the rest of today’s episode: Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton’s new Supreme Court election lawsuit, Biden’s latest Cabinet picks, and the origins of “believe-Trump-no-matter-what” syndrome among once-respected GOP figures.
Show Notes:
-Supreme Court’s one-sentence order denying injunctive relief to Rep. Mike Kelly.
-Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton’s new lawsuit against Pennsylvania, Georgia, Michigan, and Wisconsin.
-University of California-Irvine law professor Richard Hasen’s December 8 blog post on the Paxton lawsuit’s legal shortcomings.
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12/9/2020 • 1 hour, 31 minutes, 53 seconds
Politics is a Complicated Profession
After Georgia election official Gabriel Sterling asked GOP lawmakers to tone down the unsubstantiated claims of vote fraud in his state earlier this week, the Trump campaign shared a 90-second video on Twitter alleging another Georgia related election conspiracy theory. “Video footage from Georgia shows suitcases filled with ballots pulled from under a table AFTER supervisors told poll workers to leave room and 4 people stayed behind to keep counting votes,” the tweet said. Georgia Gov. Brian Kemp and other GOP figures have since demanded a signature audit of the presidential election in the Peach State.
Where do we go from here? Sterling joined Sarah and Steve on today’s episode to debunk election conspiracy theories about his state and offer a pathway forward for the GOP. “To me, this is the playbook that was run by Stacey Abrams in 2018 in Georgia,” Sterling tells Steve and Sarah of the Trump campaign’s claim that the election was rigged.
Show Notes:
-90 second clip of Georgia election conspiracy theory shared by the campaign on Thursday and Lin Wood’s rally on Wednesday excoriating Gabriel Sterling.
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12/4/2020 • 35 minutes, 57 seconds
It Was Always Going to End This Way
During an interview with the Associated Press on Tuesday, Attorney General Bill Barr said that “to date, we have not seen fraud on a scale that could have effected a different outcome in the election.” In what seems to be a clever attempt to appease the president, Barr also said during the interview that he had appointed John Durham as special counsel to investigate the Russia-Trump probe in October. Will news of Durham’s appointment appease Republicans? Is there a legal defect in the Durham appointment? Sarah and the guys give us the breakdown. On today’s episode, our podcast hosts also analyze Trump’s election litigation madness, the ethics of COVID-19 vaccine prioritization, and last week’s killing of Iranian nuclear scientist Mohsen Fakhrizadeh.
Show Notes:
-Attorney General Bill Barr’s interview with the Associated Press.
-“As Trump Rages, Voters in a Key County Move On: ‘I’m Not Sweating It’ ” by Elaina Plott in the New York Times.
-Statement from Sen. Ted Cruz urging SCOTUS to hear the Pennsylvania election challenge.
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12/2/2020 • 1 hour, 16 minutes, 49 seconds
Finding a Common Goal
Charles Koch and Brian Hooks joined Sarah and David to discuss their new book, Believe in People: Bottom-Up Solutions for a Top-Down World, which is about social entrepreneurship, the principles of human progress, and empowering people to discover their gifts. On today’s show, Koch and Hooks explain how finding common ground with people across the ideological spectrum has helped reorient their approach to public policy reform as it relates to the criminal justice system, education, and more.
Show Notes:
-Believe in People: Bottom-Up Solutions for a Top-Down World by Charles G. Koch and Brian Hooks.
-Good Profit: How Creating Value for Others Built One of the World's Most Successful Companies by Charles Koch.
-After Life: My Journey from Incarceration to Freedom by Alice Marie Johnson with Nancy French.
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11/20/2020 • 48 minutes, 50 seconds
Ironic Crayons
Twitter’s Jack Dorsey and Facebook’s Mark Zuckerberg were in the hot seat again on Tuesday, answering questions from Senate Judiciary Committee members about the policing of misinformation and controversial speech on their platforms. The biggest takeaway from the hearing? Both political parties want to regulate Big Tech, but for very different reasons. As David argues, it’s not just that liberals want more censorship and conservatives want less of it. “It’s that liberals want Big Tech censorship in exactly the areas where conservatives want less censorship,” especially as it pertains to hate speech and disinformation. Is there any room for compromise in the war against big tech? Our podcast hosts break it down in layman’s terms. Also on today’s episode: an update on COVID-19’s third wave, Biden’s Cabinet picks, and Donald Trump’s refusal to concede the election.
Show Notes:
-Reuters poll on Republicans’ perception of election.
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11/18/2020 • 1 hour, 19 minutes, 7 seconds
All the President's Conspiracies
Is the Republican Party in the midst of a policy wasteland? Today’s guest, Ben Ginsberg, surely thinks so. According to Ginsberg, who is perhaps the most prominent Republican election lawyer of our time, the future of the GOP rests on its ability to transform its policy agenda into one that appeals to minorities and women. “If [the GOP] can avoid the circular firing squad and instead concentrate on positive policy ideas to appeal to voters,” Ginsberg warns, then “there is a chance for the resurrection of the party.” Stick around for a conversation about our democracy’s nonexistent voter fraud problem and the GOP’s concerted effort to restrict access to the polls.
Show Notes:
-“My party is destroying itself on the altar of Trump,” by Ben Ginsberg in the Washington Post.
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11/13/2020 • 51 minutes, 57 seconds
Purging the Pentagon
Secretary of Defense Mark Esper got the boot on Monday in a characteristic Twitter announcement from President Trump. Esper’s sudden dismissal was accompanied by a firing spree of numerous other Pentagon officials who were quickly replaced with Trump loyalists, raising a lot of questions and alarm bells in D.C.’s national security bubble. Sarah and the guys break down competing theories that have tried to dissect what the Pentagon purge is all about. According to David, “the moves only really make sense in the context of planning for a second term.” Tune in for a discussion of emerging arguments surrounding the future of the GOP, ongoing election lawsuits, and the conspiratorial trajectory of conservative media.
Show Notes:
-The Dispatch Fact Check.
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11/11/2020 • 1 hour, 21 minutes, 39 seconds
Let's Talk About Facts
Does a video show someone burning ballots with votes for Trump? No. Did Michigan ‘magically’ find 138,339 votes for Joe Biden? Nope. What about Wisconsin? Did voter turnout exceed the number of registered voters in the state? A thousand times no. But tight vote counts in battleground states have laid the perfect groundwork for election disinformation to explode online over the past few days. As Steve points out, some bad actors on social media and cable news simply “don’t care whether what they’re saying is actually true.” But not to worry, Dispatch fact checkers Alec Dent and Khaya Himmelman—along with staff writer Andrew Egger—join the podcast today to debunk conspiracy theories surrounding election fraud so you don’t have to.
Show Notes:
-Join The Dispatch for a post-election gathering featuring congressional leadership and top policy experts November 9-10: Sign up here!
-Click here for all of our latest fact checks.
-“Biden Had No Election Coattails,” by Karl Rove.
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11/7/2020 • 53 minutes, 2 seconds
The Long Road to 270
Minutes before 5 p.m. on Wednesday afternoon, the president took to Twitter to claim victory in Georgia, Pennsylvania, and North Carolina. The president also said he “hereby [claims]” Michigan “if, in fact,... there was a large number of secretly dumped ballots as has been widely reported!” The president and his closest allies are also alleging that late-arriving votes are evidence of fraud. What should we make of all this? “This is the president of the United States acting like a Third World dictator,” Steve says on today's episode. “It’s complete nonsense. It’s made up. The only rhyme or reason to what he’s doing is he wants to count votes that he thinks are his and disqualify votes that he thinks are not.” On today’s show, our podcast hosts dissect this year’s polling catastrophe, where their electoral predictions went sour, and what our country might look like in January 2021.
Show Notes:
-Jonah’s Wednesday G-File: “The Most Chaotic Timeline,” The Sweep: “Your 2020 Election Night Guide,” The Morning Dispatch: “It Ain't Over Till It's Over.”
-Join The Dispatch for a post-election gathering featuring congressional leadership and top policy experts November 9-10: Sign up here!
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11/5/2020 • 1 hour, 9 minutes, 19 seconds
It All Leads to This
What do Republican lawmakers want the Republican party to look like in a post-Trump era? “There’s a great fear of one scenario which is that Donald Trump loses in a race that is extremely tight,” Axios reporter Jonathan Swan tells Sarah and Steve on today’s show. “In that scenario, it would be much more difficult for elected Republicans to disown Trumpism and make the case that this was an aberrant cancer that needs to be excised.” Tune in for a discussion of Trump’s spending problem, the state of the polling industry, and what to expect from a Biden administration.
Show Notes:
- Join The Dispatch for a post-election gathering featuring congressional leadership and top policy experts November 9-10: Sign up here!
- Preview of Jonathan Swan’s HBO interview with Sen. Ted Cruz.
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10/30/2020 • 35 minutes, 29 seconds
Closing Arguments
The idea that Joe Biden will somehow heal America in a post-Trump era has become the closing argument of the Democratic candidate’s campaign. Will Biden’s “return to normalcy” pitch constrain his presidency? There’s a lot of ill will festering among congressional Democrats over coronavirus relief negotiations and the confirmation of Justice Amy Coney Barrett. Assuming post-Election Day Democratic majorities in both the House and the Senate, will Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi pull Biden further left? Our podcast hosts are here for the breakdown. With less than a week until Election Day, Sarah and the guys discuss both presidential candidates’ closing rally schedules, ongoing election litigation, and whether Mitch McConnell is the real savior of the Trump years.
Show Notes:
-Tim Alberta and Chris Stirewalt on the Remnant, David’s French Press: “The Curse of ‘Pandemic Law’ Strikes the Electoral Process,” today’s Morning Dispatch: “Election Litigationpalooza,” and “How Y’all, Youse and You Guys Talk” by Josh Katz and Wilson Andrews in the New York Times.
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10/28/2020 • 1 hour, 19 minutes, 26 seconds
The Science of Politics
Is the presidential race where the polls say it is? What might pollsters be missing this election cycle? Is there a scenario in which Biden wins the electoral college handedly and Republicans somehow hold the Senate? Polls suggest that Republican senators’ reelection odds aren’t looking too sunny in Maine, Colorado, and Arizona. But what about Republican Senator Thom Tillis in North Carolina? “Everything comes down to whether a late breaking sex scandal in North Carolina can preserve a seat that Republicans a few weeks ago thought was lost,” says Josh Kraushaar, National Journal’s senior national political columnist, on today’s episode. “Ultimately, they’re hoping on a Democratic blunder on the last month of the campaign to save the Senate.” Join Sarah, Steve and Josh for a conversation about prospective voter turnout, party infighting on both sides of the aisle, and the senators who are distancing themselves from Trump to save the Senate.
Show Notes:
-The Economist’s presidential election forecast, “Republicans learn the benefits of diversity … the hard way” by Josh Kraushaar in National Journal, “McCarthy locking up support despite fears of GOP losses” by Melanie Zanona and John Bresnahan.
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10/23/2020 • 50 minutes, 9 seconds
2016, 2020 and This Moment
The story that the New York Post published last week about Hunter Biden raised all sorts of red flags for veteran journalists. How did they come into possession of the information in the first place? How did they authenticate the story before publishing it? All things considered, the available reporting process indicates that the New York Post’s story was so shaky within the Post’s own staff that the person who wrote it didn’t want his name on the byline. “That doesn’t say that the information is false,” David concedes on today’s episode, “But what it says is that the procedures to vet the information before they put the information into the public square were inadequate.” Tune in to hear our podcast hosts discuss voter enthusiasm, liberal anxiety over a 2016 repeat, and what to expect from Thursday’s presidential debate.
Show Notes:
-Join The Dispatch for a post-election gathering featuring Congressional leadership, top policy and political experts Nov. 9-10: sign up here!
-Post-Debate Dispatch Live tomorrow, “Liberal Anxiety Over a 2016 Repeat May Be Why We Won't Have One” by Jonah Goldberg in The Dispatch, “The Hunter Biden Story: A Microcosm of Our Miserable Times,” by David French in The Dispatch.
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10/21/2020 • 1 hour, 10 minutes, 58 seconds
Narrative Laundering
How do journalists and tech platforms determine what information is verifiable online? How can news consumers determine which media outlets to trust when the line between partisan bias and disinformation becomes hazier and hazier? On today’s episode, David and Sarah are joined by Renée DiResta—a technical research manager at the Stanford Internet Observatory and a writer at Wired and the Atlantic—for a conversation about disinformation online. “Anybody with a laptop can make themselves look like a media organization, can use a variety of social media marketing techniques to grow an audience, and then can push out whatever they want to say to that audience,” DiResta warns. Where do we go from here? Tune in to learn about journalistic ethics surrounding the New York Post’s Hunter Biden story and what to expect from disinformation actors this election cycle.
Show Notes:
-“Emails reveal how Hunter Biden tried to cash in big on behalf of family with Chinese firm” by Emma Jo-Morris Gabriel Fonrouge in the New York Post, “The Conspiracies Are Coming From Inside the House” by Renée DiResta
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10/16/2020 • 46 minutes, 16 seconds
Chekhov's Gun
How is Amy Coney Barrett holding up in her Senate confirmation hearings? Well, her record is squeaky clean, she’s held fast to the Ginsburg rule, and she’s remained calm and collected despite the Democrats’ best efforts to break her composure. Another benefit from this hearing, as Sarah points out, is that “the media has finally come around to understanding that the Affordable Care Act is not going to be tossed in the trash.” On the flip side, the language of court packing on the left has shifted in the opposite direction, where Democrats now argue that the term simply refers to the act of filling existing vacancies with conservative judges they don’t like. On today’s podcast, Sarah and the guys walk us through the evolution of court packing in recent decades before giving us a temperature check on the presidential election, several competitive Senate races, and the unmasking probe commissioned by Attorney General Bill Barr.
Show Notes:
-Morning Consult poll on ACB’s confirmation, the Cook Political Report, and David’s latest French Press: “Amy Coney Barrett and the Obamacare Debacle, Explained.”
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10/14/2020 • 1 hour, 22 minutes, 47 seconds
The Power Washer Approach
Donald Trump is trailing in the polls by roughly 4.2 points in Arizona, a state Republican presidential candidates have won consistently in recent decades (with the exception of Bob Dole in 1996). Our podcast hosts are joined today by New York Times reporter Jonathan Martin, who explains the demographic changes that have resulted in such a quick political realignment in Arizona and the Sun Belt more broadly. If the polls are all correct and the GOP is at risk losing Arizona, then why is Trump spending so much time campaigning there? “The difference between a modest Biden victory and an electoral landslide is the Sun Belt,” Martin tells Sarah and Steve.
Beyond demographic changes in key battleground states, public opinion surveys have continuously shown that the American public is much more cautious about the coronavirus than the president. For months, President Trump has downplayed the pandemic by holding in-person rallies, refusing to wear a mask, and railing against the efficacy of mail-in-voting. Do Trump’s advisers simply not have the guts to tell him that his mishandling of the coronavirus is losing voters? “It’s just hard to use polling data to get him to act in ways that he does not want to act,” Martin argues. Listen to today’s episode for some thoughts about online campaign fundraising, Mitch McConnell’s last ditch effort to save the GOP’s Senate majority, and the life expectancy of “Anti-Fake News” Trumpism in the Republican Party.
Show Notes:
-Today’s Morning Dispatch about Mitch McConnell’s GOP strategy, “Trump's Path to Victory (With a Nod to Washington State)” by Sean Trende in RealClearPolitics.
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10/9/2020 • 37 minutes, 40 seconds
For Whom the Bell Tweets
Do this week’s national presidential polling averages doom Donald Trump’s chance at winning the election? Joe Biden has maintained a steady national polling lead of 6 to 9 points for months now, with no signs of letting up as we approach November 3. The latest CNN, NBC, and Rasmussen polls from this week show Biden in a 16-, 14-, and 12-point lead, respectively. “Even if [these polls] are outliers on the top number,” Jonah says, “The unspoken story about all of this is Biden is running away with it with seniors.” Trump won seniors decisively in 2016 and a Democrat hasn’t won the demographic since former presidential candidate Al Gore in 2000. All things considered, our podcast hosts warn that this could be one of the biggest presidential sweeps since Bill Clinton defeated Bob Dole in 1996. Tune in for a conversation about the right’s transition to online social media trolling, the president’s Twitter addiction, and tonight’s upcoming vice presidential debate.
Show Notes:
-Post-debate Dispatch Live tonight, 30 day free trial at The Dispatch, CNN poll showing Biden in a 16-point lead, NBC poll showing Biden in a 14-point lead, Rasmussen poll showing Biden in a 12 -point lead, “4 Funny Feelings about 2020” by Tim Alberta in Politico,
-“Fan Service Is Not Serving Trump Well” by Jonah Goldberg in The Dispatch.
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10/7/2020 • 1 hour, 11 minutes, 31 seconds
Virus Inside the Wire
Donald Trump shocked the world when he announced overnight via Twitter that he and the first lady tested positive for the coronavirus, a startling development in an already news-saturated week for the president.
Who better to discuss these momentous developments than Dr. Jonathan Reiner—a cardiologist, professor of medicine and surgery at George Washington University, former physician to Vice President Dick Cheney, and a consultant to the White House Medical Unit during the Bush, Obama, and Trump years?
Reiner joined Sarah and Steve for an insightful discussion that covered virtually all aspects of this significant development—from the details of the spread of the virus to the protocols of the White House Medical Unit, from the hopefully distant possibility of the need for continuity-of-government measures to the cardiological implications of COVID-19.
How did we get to this nightmare scenario? “It’s a failure of common sense,” Reiner tells our podcast hosts. “It’s a failure of masking.” Frankly speaking, the White House could have avoided this situation by limiting staffers’ and visitors’ proximity to the president, conducting meetings via secure video link, and instituting a universal mask-wearing mandate for all White House staffers at all times. None of this happened. Trump has downplayed the risk of the coronavirus for months now, interacting with White House staffers on a daily basis without a mask. “For those of us who know how viruses are spread—and it’s not that complicated—it was horrifying to see all these people in close proximity to the president,” Dr. Reiner said. “I thought it was really malpractice for the White House to allow so many people so close to the president.”
The president’s physician, Sean Conley, issued a statement on Friday saying he expects the president “to carry out his duties without interruption while recovering.” But how will the White House Medical Unit ensure a continuity of government if Trump becomes temporarily unfit for office due to COVID-19 complications? The 25th Amendment provides a pathway for a majority of the Cabinet secretaries to determine if the president is no longer fit for office or for the president to relinquish his duties voluntarily. “The Cabinet doesn’t have the medical capacity by themselves to make the determination so they would defer to the White House Medical Unit,” Reiner explained, which is staffed by career Army officers. “It would take a very mature, confident officer to say to the president, ‘Sir I don’t think you’re fit for duty right now, I think you should consider the 25th Amendment.’ Imagine that conversation with this particular patient.” Tune in for Reiner’s expert opinion on herd immunity, the nonsensical partisan split on mask-wearing, and how the country can move forward during such a perilous moment in American history.
Show Notes:
-Heart: An American Medical Odyssey by Jonathan Reiner, “Trump says he and first lady have tested positive for coronavirus” by Josh Dawsey and Colby Itkowitz.
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10/2/2020 • 46 minutes, 29 seconds
America and the Terrible, Horrible, No Good, Very Bad Debate
Last night was the first presidential debate and it was … not a great moment for the country, to say the least. As Sarah reminds us, presidential candidates go into debates with a strategy, basing their metric of success on their ability to boost turnout among an already existing base. Did either candidate achieve what they wanted to achieve? Are undecided voters who watched the debate now more or less likely to show up to the polls? If you haven’t been following every twist and turn of the race, Trump appeared strong and forceful during the debate, interrupting the moderator and his doddering opponent in perpetuity. But were Trump’s interruptions strategic? As Jonah argues, “He didn’t let Biden talk when Biden was talking badly.” Rather than give Biden the opportunity to fumble, the president was just a “blunderbuss of interruptions,” a problem that was compounded by his refusal to condemn white supremacy.
Biden, on the other hand, somewhat succeeded in his do no harm, let Trump be Trump strategy, minor gaffes aside. But it was by no means a show-stopping performance from the Democratic nominee. All things considered, it mostly served as a reminder that maybe mute buttons would be a good idea next time around. After a debate recap, Sarah and the guys discuss the electoral and national security implications of the New York Times’ report on Trump’s tax returns, as well as the DNI Director John Ratcliffe’s letter to Sen. Lindsey Graham regarding the FBI’s handling of Crossfire Hurricane. Stick around for a fun conversation about our podcast hosts’ favorite cult classic films.
Show Notes:
-30 day free trial at The Dispatch, Dispatch Live Post-Debate Edition, Frank Luntz’s focus group, post-debate Telemundo poll, New York Times’ report on Trump’s tax returns, DNI letter from John Ratcliffe.
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9/30/2020 • 1 hour, 16 minutes, 59 seconds
Fight for the Highest Court
Why are Supreme Court vacancies more important to Republicans than they are to Democrats at the ballot box? It all goes back to conservative resistance to living constitutionalism, Judicial Crisis Network president Carrie Severino tells Steve and Sarah on today’s episode. “We know historically, it has been conservatives who are incredibly engaged by the Supreme Court,” Severino argues, because “it’s been conservatives on the receiving end of judicial activism.” In recent decades, the Supreme Court itself has made a point of constitutionalizing issues that simply aren’t in the Constitution, which can be traced to the left’s complete misunderstanding of our country’s founding charter.
Severino argues that the underlying logic of judicial activism is as follows: “If it’s constitutional it must be good, if it’s not constitutional it must be bad, and likewise, if it’s good, then it must be required by the Constitution, if it’s bad it must be forbidden by the Constitution.” Tune in for some punditry on Democrats’ religious tests for conservative Supreme Court nominees, the prudence of confirming a Supreme Court justice during an election year, and Republican Sen. Josh Hawley’s insistence that he won’t confirm a Supreme Court nominee who hasn’t vowed on record to overturn Roe v. Wade.
Show Notes:
-Justice on Trial: The Kavanaugh Confirmation and the Future of the Supreme Court, by Carrie Severino and Mollie Hemingway.
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9/25/2020 • 36 minutes, 6 seconds
Principle vs. Prudence
Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg's death on Friday immediately kickstarted a battle among conservative pundits and politicians over the prudence of pushing through a Supreme Court nominee before November 3. The first problem is that mail-in voting is already under way, meaning Republicans would technically be advancing a nominee during an election. Republicans have also been hypocrites about this in the past with their opposition to Merrick Garland’s hearing in 2016. Steve thinks we should push through a nominee, but David, Jonah, and Sarah are more sympathetic to arguments that Trump should nominate a justice and the Senate should wait to confirm until after the election, keeping in mind Democrats’ threats to throw out the filibuster, pack the court, and add Puerto Rico and D.C. to the union if Republicans have their way with Trump’s forthcoming nominee.
David and Jonah propose a deal: If Trump wins, the Senate confirms his nominee; if Biden wins, he agrees not to pack the court. Others argue that confirming a justice during an election year is just politics, meaning whichever party is in power gets to do whatever it wants. But what about principled conservatism? “My main critique of philosophical pragmatism is we are now talking about basically saying power decides every question of principle,” Jonah says on today’s podcast. This puts Republicans and conservatives in a bind, he argues, “particularly because for the last give or take 5,000 years, one of the jobs of conservatives has been to make a distinction between things you can do and things you should do.” Tune in for a conversation about the forthcoming attacks on Amy Coney Barrett’s Catholic faith should she be Trump’s nominee, the upcoming presidential debate next week, and the New York Times’ eagerness to rewrite its own history surrounding the 1619 Project.
Show Notes:
-“As U.S. Supreme Court nomination looms, a religious community draws fresh interest” in Reuters, “Vote on President Trump’s Nomination, Senators—the Sooner the Better” by Matthew J. Franck in The Dispatch, and the New York Times’ 1619 Project.
-Check out our The Dispatch30 day free trial of .
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9/23/2020 • 1 hour, 8 minutes, 58 seconds
How Do You Solve a Problem Like Trump?
“People ask me this all the time, ‘Why the hell did you stay?’ ” explains Miles Taylor, the former chief of staff for the Department of Homeland Security under the Trump administration and founder of the Republican Political Alliance for Integrity and Reform (REPAIR). “And my response is: If you saw what was happening, why the hell wouldn’t you stay if you cared about your country?” On today’s episode, Miles Taylor gives Sarah and Steve an inside scoop as to what it’s like working for a president who constantly gives you orders to break the law and who believes he has “magical powers” to do whatever he wants. The most frustrating part of his job as DHS chief of staff, he said, was watching high officials who expressed disdain for the president in private but refused to speak up when it mattered most. “There was another time that we were in [the Oval Office] and he went off on a tirade about the Mexicans,” Taylor explains, “In the conversations he said, ‘Look, Mexico is just a total hellhole, isn’t it? It’s just a total hellhole.’ And he kind of looked around the room for agreement, and he was like, ‘Right? You know I can’t say shithole countries anymore but it’s a hellhole, right?” Taylor said most people in the room—except for one official who Taylor didn’t name—laughed it off and nodded rather than standing up to the president.
Taylor said he and his colleagues went into that administration recognizing that Donald Trump was a man of pretty poor character, but there was a hope that the office itself would perhaps change the president for the better. “I really think once he had the powers of the presidency, he got drunk on the powers of the presidency and they did not have that sobering effect, they had a very inebriating effect on President Trump and magnified some of his worst impulses.” Tune in to hear Miles explain what it’s like having a Trump tweet change the trajectory of your entire day as a DHS staffer, whether Republicans should vote for Biden this election cycle, and how REPAIR hopes to fix the GOP in the post-Trump era. If anything, tune just in to hear Taylor explain why “every single day in the Donald Trump administration was a pride swallowing siege.”
Show Notes:
-The Republican Political Alliance for Integrity and Reform.
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9/18/2020 • 38 minutes, 16 seconds
The Long Road to Peace
On Tuesday, Israel signed two historic peace agreements with Bahrain and the United Arab Emirates in a major step toward greater diplomacy in the Middle East. Though the Trump administration played a crucial role in brokering both peace deals—with the signing ceremonies themselves taking place in the White House—media coverage of the deals has been scarce, begrudging, and dismissive of the president’s involvement in the negotiations. How much credit should the Trump administration get for facilitating the deal? And more importantly, will other countries follow suit in normalizing relations with Israel? “The UAE is like a beta test of the bigger deal with Saudi Arabia if it is to come,” David explains on today’s episode. “This is sort of dipping the toe in the waters.” As we inch toward November 3, will this deal be a major selling point for Trump’s re-election campaign? According to Sarah, probably not. “Our politics goes in cycles of foreign policy having domestic policy relevance, normally when we’re talking about having our people overseas,” Sarah explains, “This is not one of those elections.” Much to the Trump administration’s chagrin, this deal is simply not getting the coverage it deserves and many Americans who are more focused on domestic issues may never even hear about it at all. After a foray into the foreign policy world, our podcast hosts discuss The Big Ten’s return, the conspiratorial trajectory of American politics, many Republicans’ conviction that Joe Biden is nothing but a cardboard cutout for the progressive far-left, and … Grover Cleveland!
Show Notes:
-The Remnant episode with Ken Pollack, yesterday’s Dispatch Live, and “Steve Bannon Is Behind Bogus Study That China Created COVID” by Adam Rawnsley in The Daily Beast.
-Make sure to take advantage of The Dispatch 30 Day free trial.
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9/16/2020 • 1 hour, 13 minutes, 26 seconds
An Enduring Memory
It’s the 19th anniversary of September 11, 2001, one of the most harrowing historical events in living memory. Today, our podcast hosts reflect on their personal memories of the day as a launching point into a discussion about the United States’ current understanding of al-Qaeda nearly two decades later. In reality, we don’t talk about al-Qaeda much anymore other than within the context of Trump’s “endless wars” rhetoric. Just this week, the Trump administration announced that troops in Iraq will be reduced to 3,000. What’s more, peace negotiations are taking place with Taliban representatives, Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, and representatives of the Afghan government this weekend. So as Steve points out, “You’d be forgiven for thinking this is all over.” But as Dispatch Podcast guest Tom Joscelyn reminds us on today’s episode, “Al-Qaeda is still very much alive.” Though Tom concedes that there’s a lot you can criticize about U.S. military intervention post-9/11, “It’s much more common, in my experience, that people who are against the U.S. using military force or U.S. military action to play disconnect the dots than it is for some sort of a so-called hawk to overconnect the dots.” On today’s episode, Tom, Sarah, and Steve discuss American intelligence officials’ current misunderstanding of al-Qaeda, the UAE and Bahrain’s plans to normalize their relationship with Israel, and the real and imagined foreign threats to the upcoming election.
Show Notes:
-“Why ‘Outside-In’ Diplomacy Could Be the Key to Middle East Peace” by Jonathan Schanzer, “This 9/11 anniversary arrives with the end of the war on al-Qaeda well in sight” by Christopher Miller, director of the National Counterterrorism Center in the Office of the Director of National Intelligence, and “The Falling Man” by Thomas Junod.
-Tom Joscelyn’s Vital Interests newsletter for The Dispatch.
-30-day free trial of The Dispatch
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9/11/2020 • 1 hour, 30 seconds
Latino Voters and 2020
News broke overnight of President Trump’s plans to reduce U.S. forces in Iraq and Afghanistan, less than a week after Jeffrey Goldberg’s bombshell article in The Atlantic highlighted anonymous accusations of the president’s poor conduct toward American veterans. Sarah, Steve, and Jonah tackle some of the move’s political implications for Trump’s re-election campaign before launching into a lively debate over the ethics of using anonymous sources in journalism. “It is the case that reporters can pick and choose their anonymous sources to tell the story that their predetermined narrative would have them tell,” said Steve. “But I think you judge anonymous sources to a certain extent based on the amount of credence you give to the particular reporter who’s using them.”
The Dispatch Podcast also covers curveballs that could upset current polling favoring a handed Joe Biden victory—namely, the Hispanic vote and presidential debates. New data out of Florida reveals that the former VP might not have the Hispanic vote locked down, but as our hosts point out, assuming that a diverse group of people will vote as a monolithic bloc has always been a dangerous oversimplification. Steve, Sarah and Jonah also chat about the upcoming debates and how possible Biden blunders could either hurt him or paint him as a sympathetic figure, depending on how the president chooses to respond.
Show Notes:
-Jeffrey Goldberg’s controversial investigative journalism: Trump: Americans Who Died in War Are ‘Losers’ and ‘Suckers’
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9/9/2020 • 1 hour, 3 minutes, 29 seconds
The Art of Nuance
Erick Erickson, host of 95.5 WSB’s Atlanta’s Evening News and creator of The Resurgent, joins Sarah and Steve on the latest Dispatch Podcast to state the case for the president’s re-election, despite his own wide-ranging reservations about Trumpism and the future of the Republican party. To Erickson, Trump represents the lesser of two evils—acting on the better judgement of behind-the-scenes administration officials to move forward beneficial policies like the Israel-UAE deal, the Trump Tax Reform Plan, and economic deregulation.
When pressed about dangerous outgrowths of the populist right, like the QAnon conspiracy theory, Erickson contends that the misinformation crisis coincided with the country’s lost faith in the media. He says that when journalists for self-described nonpartisan mainstream news sources publicly exposed their biases on verified Twitter accounts, many Americans abandoned orthodox news sources in favor of word-of-mouth and alternative media. “All of this plays into more and more people tuning out of media and tuning into their friends on Facebook, and not being able to distinguish truth from fiction,” Erickson said.
Listen to the end for a spirited discussion about the luxuries of adulthood, during which Steve inevitably brings up Spanish wine and Sarah shares her clever method to track down the best mattress in your area.
Show Notes:
-Erick Erickson’s online publication The Resurgent
-Atlanta’s Evening News with Erick Erickson
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9/4/2020 • 51 minutes, 4 seconds
'Mostly Peaceful'
On the campaign trail and throughout his presidency, Donald Trump has painted himself as a law and order candidate. We’re now three years into Donald Trump’s America and waves of violence and racial unrest are sweeping across America, most recently in Kenosha, Wisconsin, following the police shooting of Jacob Blake. Do the riots and looting in Kenosha benefit Trump electorally? It’s hard to say whether the rioters and Antifa supporters—who are burning down small businesses and hitting innocent bystanders with concrete water bottles—are supporting Biden’s campaign or even voting at all. But if everyone thinks that the left is a monolithic movement—as alleged by Tucker Carlson and Donald Trump—that’s a bad look for the Biden campaign. “If you can get successfully tagged as the party of people who are setting fire to Korean grocery stores,” Jonah warns, “You’ve got a huge problem.” Listen to today’s episode for some thoughts on the way our preferred media outlets warp our worldview, ongoing Senate races nationwide, and an update on election meddling from foreign actors as we approach November 3.
Show Notes:
-“Fiery But Mostly Peaceful Protests After Police Shooting” chyron on CNN and last month’s statement from NCSC Director William Evanina on foreign election interference.
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9/2/2020 • 1 hour, 13 minutes, 2 seconds
A Tale of Two Conventions
The Democratic and Republican conventions are finally over but most of the major credible pollsters are waiting for the dust to settle before tracking public opinion of both presidential candidates. The critical message pushed by the RNC this week was that Trump kept the promises he made to voters, but is that a real policy agenda moving into his second term? Is Biden’s “nice guy,” “Build Back Better” strategy winning over wobbly Republican voters? Do conventions even affect voters’ perceptions of candidates all that much? “I don’t know that anything unexpected or dramatic came out of the last two weeks, and I doubt that to the extent there are persuadable voters, a lot of them are spending eight hours of their life in front of the tv each week watching this,” said Republican pollster Kristen Soltis Anderson on today’s episode. “I would highly suspect you had more hardcore Democrats hate-watching the Republican Convention than you did genuinely persuadable voters in the middle.” Tune in to hear Sarah and Steve chat with Anderson—co-founder of Echelon Insights and columnist at the Washington Examiner—for a conversation about the historical importance of conventions in moving the needle for presidential candidates in the polls.
Show Notes:
-Pew Research Center’s American Trends Panel, Alice Johnson’s speech at the Republican National Convention, “The ‘Rage Moms’ Democrats Are Counting On” by Lisa Lerer and Jennifer Medina in the New York Times, Donald Trump’s RNC acceptance speech
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8/29/2020 • 48 minutes, 58 seconds
Unrest in Wisconsin
Widespread destruction of businesses and private property has devastated Kenosha, Wisconsin, in the wake of the police shooting of a Jacob Blake last week. As we explained in today’s Morning Dispatch, “Blake was airlifted to a hospital, underwent surgery, and is still alive, but reportedly paralyzed from the waist down.” The details leading up to Blake’s shooting are still murky, but protests, riots, and looting have ravaged the city for days in response. “Suppressing civil unrest is one of the most difficult things that any law enforcement agency can do,” David says on today’s episode. But still, we should expect leaders to draw brightline distinctions between constitutionally protected expression and violent protest. There has been a predictably partisan reaction to the riots: Democrats have been reluctant to condemn the violence in fear that doing so will alienate young voters. Republicans, on the other hand, have been quick to ridicule even peaceful protesters. When it comes to quelling the violence, there is also a difference, David adds, between “overwhelming force, which can be often extremely counterproductive and inflame further violence, and overwhelming and prudently deployed presence.” Beyond the events in Wisconsin, tune in for some punditry about the Democratic and Republican conventions, the GOP’s non-platform, and comparisons between the presidential elections of 2020 and 1988.
Show Notes:
-The Morning Dispatch, “Riots in Wisconsin”, the president’s second term agenda, and Jonah’s column: “About Those Bush-Dukakis Comparisons …”
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8/26/2020 • 1 hour, 21 minutes, 54 seconds
GOP Flirts with QAnon
When Politico reported on Republican congressional candidate Marjorie Greene’s racist and bigoted comments in June, several top GOP officials—including Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy—condemned her campaign. But after she beat her Republican opponent Dr. John Cowan in Tuesday’s primary race, McCarthy immediately switched gears. A spokesman for McCarthy’s office told Declan that the GOP leader “looks forward” to her win this November. Why on Earth is the House minority leader welcoming a racist conspiracy mongering candidate into the GOP with open arms? Our Dispatch Podcast hosts have some thoughts. It’s also worth exploring how she was able to win her primary in the first place, especially with all the negative media attention she’s gotten in recent months. A source close to her opponent’s campaign has a theory: “The most consistent thing we heard [about why voters were supporting Greene over Cowan] was that, ‘Well, she’s gonna go and she’s gonna fight, she’s gonna fight, she’s gonna fight.’ When you prodded a little bit deeper and asked, ‘Well what does that fight look like?’ They couldn’t tell you, but they just know she’s going to fight.” Tune in for some insights into what the future of the Republican Party will look like with a QAnon supporter in its ranks.
Show Notes:
-Declan’s piece on the GOP’s reaction to Marjorie Greene’s primary win, Audrey’s piece on the growing conspiracy fringe in the Republican Party, Politico article on GOP condemning Greene in June, Trump’s tweet congratulating Greene on her win, Marjorie Taylor Greene’s motto.
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8/14/2020 • 52 minutes, 55 seconds
It's Kamala Harris
On Tuesday, Joe Biden tapped Kamala Harris as his running mate. But let’s be honest—we all saw this coming. As we wrote in The Morning Dispatch today, “D.C. conventional wisdom had Sen. Kamala Harris pegged as Joe Biden’s likeliest choice for months.” Despite Harris’ numerous attacks on Biden over his busing record and relationship with segregationist senators —not to mention her dicey criminal record as a prosecutor in California—she checks a lot of boxes. She’s a senator in one of the country’s biggest states, she’s the daughter of Jamaican and Indian immigrants, and she has experience running her own presidential campaign (albeit a failed one).
“When she was running for president, it was pretty obvious she didn’t know what she was running for,” David says on today’s episode. “But now as a good lawyer she sort of has a client, and the client is the guy at the top of the ticket and the Democratic platform, and that will unleash some of her better skills.” Today, Declan joins The Dispatch Podcast for some punditry on what Biden’s VP pick means for the future of the Democratic Party, a deep dive into foreign election meddling, and a much-needed update on the status of sports during the pandemic.
Show Notes:
-The New York Times’ front page spread of Kamala Harris, Trump’s tweet this morning about suburban housewives, and the DNI Report about election meddling.
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8/13/2020 • 1 hour, 7 minutes, 45 seconds
Iceberg, Right Ahead!
Last week, President Trump experienced one of the most challenging interviews of his presidency when he sat down with Jonathan Swan from Axios. Swan asked some tough follow-up questions, and Trump’s responses demonstrated that he is not used to this level of pushback. What’s more, the interview highlighted the fact that the White House’s media strategy revolves around reassuring the president rather than getting the facts straight.
The gang breaks down the interview and Trump’s answers on the latest podcast. According to Jonah, the videography of the interview was also damning for Trump: “It was sort of like one of these twenty-something consultants from McKinsey going and interviewing the paper mill owner who still uses the fax machine.” If he knew what he was walking into, why did Trump agree to this interview in the first place? Our hosts have some theories.
For weeks, the president has been telling his supporters that mail-in ballots will rig the election in every state except for … Florida? Trump knows many of his supporters in Florida are elderly Americans who will vote absentee. But as Sarah points out, telling all of his other supporters that mail-in voting is rigged might just work in his favor. Polls show that there will be a partisan divide in this election when it comes to in-person versus mail-in voting, with Democrats more likely to vote by mail. What these polls aren’t telling you is that a not-small percentage of mail-in ballots that are likely to be invalidated for technical reasons, especially given most states are wildly unprepared for the sheer number of mail-in ballots that are coming their way. Whatever happens, the election is going to be ugly. Tune in to today’s podcast for some punditry on how American civil society has mishandled the pandemic, a debate over whether calling female political candidates “ambitious” is inherently sexist, and some bickering over America’s best sit-down diners.
Show Notes:
-Jonathan Swan’s Axios interview with the president, Sarah’s newsletter The Sweep, Jonah’s column this week on mail-in voting.
-25 percent of the mail-in ballots cast from Brooklyn for the primary election were disqualified.
-“How the Pandemic Defeated America” by Ed Yong in The Atlantic.
-“ ‘She had no remorse’: Why Kamala Harris isn't a lock for VP” in Politico.
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8/5/2020 • 1 hour, 18 minutes, 22 seconds
Chaos vs. Community
As our colleague Jonah Goldberg always says, the parties have never been weaker than they are right now. Democratic political strategist Joe Trippi joins Sarah and Steve today on The Dispatch Podcast to discuss how parties no longer have the power to push out irrelevant, personality driven candidates from the establishment. According to Trippi, this phenomenon is here to stay: “You’re going to have 20 or 30 people in both parties running from now on,” he tells Steve and Sarah. Political outsiders now see throwing their hat in the ring as a win-win situation, because “the worst thing that happens to you if you lose is you get a TV show or you can sell books.”
As we approach November 3rd, Joe Trippi believes that Trump allows Democrats to speak to both sides of the aisle, meaning unenthused progressives and politically homeless Republicans. Speaking for progressives, Trippi tells Sarah and Steve “He both inflames our base to turn out and he’s making it possible to reach Republican voters that we could never have hoped to reach.” Check out today’s podcast to hear Joe, Steve and Sarah discuss campaign mechanics, including the Biden veepstakes and both presidential candidates’ fundraising efforts.
Joe Trippi has been at the forefront of numerous Democratic presidential, gubernatorial, senate, and congressional campaigns for nearly 40 years. Most recently, he was the senior strategist behind Democratic Senator Doug Jones’ historic 2017 victory.
Show Notes:
-That Trippi Show
-Sarah's new newsletter The Sweep
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7/31/2020 • 57 minutes, 14 seconds
Thanks, Noam Chomsky
This morning, Trump told Jonathan Swan from Axios that he has never confronted Vladimir Putin about Russian bounties that were paid to the Taliban to kill American troops, partly because the president doesn’t believe it happened in the first place. But we know from several credible intelligence reports that the president was briefed on the Russian bounties months ago. On today’s episode, Steve reminds us, “It’s been weeks since this was first reported, it’s been months since this was first briefed, and the president of the United States is officially silent on the fact that Russians are trying to kill our troops in Afghanistan.”
In other news, a fledgling theory has taken hold among Trump’s staunchest acolytes: that the president is falling behind in the polls because cancel culture has made MAGA supporters afraid to publicly profess their support for the president. But are there enough SMAGA supporters to sufficiently account for Biden’s double digit lead in the polls? Jonah suggests that this “silent majority” rhetoric has simply become a coping mechanism for the GOP to keep Trump from losing his mind. Tune in to today’s episode to hear our Dispatch podcasters discuss the Burn It All Down Wars, Biden’s veepstakes, and what they’re all reading at the moment.
Show Notes:
-Axios interview with Jonathan Swan and Donald Trump.
-Charlie Sykes’ Bulwark piece, “Burn It All Down?” and David’s Tuesday French Press, “Another Salvo in the ‘Burn It Down’ Wars.”
-Monmouth poll on secret Trump voters, Jonah’s Wednesday G-File, “Are Silent Trump Voters Real, or Just a Myth?” and Sarah Isgur’s Monday newsletter, “The Sweep.”
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7/29/2020 • 1 hour, 20 minutes, 8 seconds
Larry Hogan Looks to the Future
Maryland Gov. Larry Hogan had some blunt criticism for the incumbent president of his own political party on the latest Dispatch Podcast, and all but ruled out supporting Donald Trump in November.
“This week the president said he was going to cut funding for testing,” said Hogan, in conversation with Sarah Isgur and Steve Hayes. “That was one of the dumbest things I’ve ever heard.” Hogan continued: “My biggest criticism was at the beginning the president didn’t take it seriously enough, and was downplaying the severity of the crisis.”
Hogan believes that the Trump administration has since made progress with its coronavirus strategy, and he’s encouraged that Trump finally donned a mask in public and spoke publicly about the importance of wearing one. But, he added, the federal government is still months behind on testing and tracing and appears to be no closer to coming up with a national testing plan, an inexcusable oversight.
Hogan went further than he has before in discussing whether he intends to support his fellow Republican in November. “Probably not,” Hogan said.
Hogan also believes the GOP has a lot of work to do to recover in a post-Trump era. When pressed on whether the president has grown the Republican Party, he said, “No I don’t think he has at all,” pointing to Haley Barbour’s truism that politics is about addition and multiplication, not subtraction and division. “Quite frankly, I think the president has really been focused on, you know, dividing and subtracting.”
Listen to Hogan, Sarah, and Steve discuss the ins and outs of coronavirus strategizing from a policymaker’s perspective and his hopes for the future of the Republican Party.
Show Notes:
-Hogan’s recent book, Still Standing: Surviving Cancer, Riots, a Global Pandemic, and the Toxic Politics that Divide America
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7/24/2020 • 30 minutes, 54 seconds
All Sizzle and No Steak
During Tuesday’s press briefing, a reporter asked the president about Ghislaine Maxwell, a British socialite and confidante of Jeffrey Epstein who is facing charges for grooming and sexually abusing minors. When pressed on whether Maxwell will turn in other powerful people, the president said, “I just wish her well, frankly.” This took many by surprise, but as Steve reminds us in today’s episode, “it’s not as if this is the first time he has had kind words or well wishes for a moral bottom-dweller.”
Tuesday also saw a fiery showdown in the Republican House Freedom Caucus, when members bullied Liz Cheney for being insufficiently loyal to Donald Trump. In today’s episode, Sarah, Steve, Jonah, and David talk about how the biggest fault line in the conservative movement ultimately boils down to unswerving fealty to the president. Tune in to hear our podcast hosts also discuss the long-term relevance of the Lincoln Project, the Chinese government’s human rights abuses against the Uighur people, and end with a lighthearted discussion on their favorite concert memories.
Show Notes:
-Trump’s comments on Ghislaine Maxwell.
-Steve's reporting on the Liz Cheney attacks.
-Washington Post interview with Greg Sargent and John Weaver about the Lincoln Project.
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7/23/2020 • 1 hour, 14 minutes, 29 seconds
From Afghanistan with Love
What is happening on the ground in Afghanistan and why are we still there? The Trump administration has closed five bases, reduced the number of American troops to 9,ooo, and signed a peace deal with the Taliban. But as Thomas Joscelyn points out in today’s podcast, the peace deal is really nothing more than a “pretext for justifying withdrawal.”
While the United States reckons with its military presence in the Middle East, other foreign threats are lurking behind the scenes. From the Russian bounties intelligence leak to recent cyberattacks on coronavirus vaccine-related targets on American soil, Russia is engaging in shadow wars against the United States. And as Thomas reminds us, China’s deep-seated anti-Americanism is also cause for concern. On this week’s foreign policy episode, Sarah, Steve, and Thomas dive into these issues and address Israel’s sabotage efforts in Iran, Trump’s reflexive isolationism and business-minded foreign affairs strategy, and the implications of a Biden presidency for American interests abroad.
Show Notes:
-This week’s Vital Interests newsletter on the world’s most dangerous alliance, and Thomas Joscelyn’s podcast Generation Jihad.
-Trump’s West Point commencement speech,and the latest reporting on Israel and Iran.
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7/17/2020 • 55 minutes, 56 seconds
French Fry Wars
Peter Navarro, director of the Office of Trade and Manufacturing Policy for the Trump administration, published a scathing hit piece against top epidemiologist Anthony Fauci in USA Today this morning. “Dr. Anthony Fauci has a good bedside manner with the public, but he has been wrong about everything I have interacted with him on,” Navarro writes. For months now, Fauci has bickered with White House officials and pleaded with reporters to not turn his interview sound bites into a personality contest between him and Donald Trump. Sarah, Steve, and David are joined by Andrew to discuss Navarro’s op-ed and why our public health crisis has become subsumed into the culture war.
On the topic of cancel culture, opinion columnist Bari Weiss resigned from the New York Times yesterday, citing the paper’s toxic culture and her editors’ acquiescence to persistent bullying from her colleagues. Many journalists in the Twitterverse came to her defense, but others pushed back, arguing that she was not really canceled, but simply unwilling to take criticism from her colleagues. After all, isn’t disagreement with one’s colleagues a perfect exercise of free speech? But as David points out, “If you are using your words not to debate a human being but to try to inflict pain on them in the hopes that they shut up, that’s different.” Sarah and the guys take on these questions and address the Trump administration’s aggressive stance on school reopenings, the Goya boycott, presidential election polls, and a very serious debate over French fries.
Show Notes;
Peter Navarro USA Today op-ed about Anthony Fauci, Chuck Woolery tweet.
Kaiser Family Foundation study.
David’s French Press on Bari Weiss’ resignation from the New York Times, her resignation letter, Nicholas Christakis’ definition of cancel culture on Twitter, Harper’s Magazine letter, Ivanka Trump Goya tweet.
Jonathan Martin New York Times article on Biden’s swing state strategy, FHQ electoral map.
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7/15/2020 • 1 hour, 7 minutes, 38 seconds
Untold No More
The day after his son was born on October 2, 2009, Jake Tapper watched a news report about a team of 53 American troops who were relentlessly attacked by 400 Taliban insurgents at the Combat Outpost Keating in Afghanistan. “In the haze of it all, there was a moment where I was sitting there holding my son and watching this news report about eight other sons, taken from this earth,” he said. Inspired by this story of American valor, Tapper began researching the story and eventually published a book chronicling the events in 2012.
Fast forward eight years and his book, The Outpost, is now a movie. On today’s episode, Jake Tapper discusses the new blockbuster film with Sarah and Steve, and spends some time discussing the Taliban exit deal, the effectiveness of counterinsurgency abroad, and a sneak peek into the novel he’s working on.
Show Notes:
-The Outpost: An Untold Story of American Valor book, “The Outpost” movie, and Tapper's political thriller The Hellfire Club.
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7/10/2020 • 50 minutes, 14 seconds
Feel My Pain
An open letter published by Harper’s, signed by 153 prominent names, warning against illiberal behavior received swift pushback online. Sarah, Steve, Jonah, and David discuss which socio-political issues of our time are within the scope of reasonable disagreement while also addressing why illiberalism has become such a global phenomenon.
Should schools reopen fully in the fall? Why has the fight over mask-wearing devolved into a culture war issue? Does Trump understand his own constituency? Sarah and the guys weigh in on these questions while also addressing Trump’s Mt. Rushmore speech, and the future of the GOP in a post-Trump era.
Show Notes:
-Harper’s Magazine’s “Letter on Justice and Open Debate,” Vox writer’s retaliatory Twitter response to the letter, The Dispatch Podcast episode with Yascha Mounk.
-Trump’s July Fourth speech at Mount Rushmore, Trump’s Twitter tirade against NASCAR driver Bubba Wallace, Forbes interview with Kanye West on a presidential run.
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7/8/2020 • 1 hour, 19 minutes, 32 seconds
The Art of Persuasion
Yascha Mounk, the founder of Persuasion, joins Sarah and David to discuss his new publication and the project of defending liberal democracy.
Show Notes:
-Persuasion
-Stranger in My Own Country
-Stop Firing the Innocent
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7/3/2020 • 48 minutes, 59 seconds
The Russian Plot
Sarah and the guys discuss reporting about a Russian plot to pay bounties to Taliban-linked militants to kill American troops, the battle for control of the Senate, and cancel culture's effect on our conversation about race in America.
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7/1/2020 • 1 hour, 17 minutes, 53 seconds
Some Like It On the Trail
Astead Herndon, national politics reporter at The New York Times, joins Sarah and Steve to discuss his reporting from the president's rally in Tulsa to the Biden campaign and veepstakes.
Show Notes:
-Astead's work at the Times
-Follow Astead on Twitter
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6/26/2020 • 51 minutes, 35 seconds
Exhausted American Summer
Sarah, Steve, Jonah, and David discuss the state of the 2020 race as we kick off the first week of summer, and what the revelations in John Bolton's book mean for the president's administration.
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6/25/2020 • 1 hour, 6 minutes, 56 seconds
License to Analyze Media
Martin Gurri, a former CIA analyst, joins Sarah and Steve to discuss our information overload, the loss of trust in institutions and figures of authority, and the role of tech platforms.
Show Notes:
-Gurri's book The Revolt of The Public
-Gurri's piece on post-truth
-Vaca Frita recipe
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6/19/2020 • 46 minutes, 18 seconds
Shuffling Deck Chairs on the Lusitania
Sarah, Steve, Jonah, and David discuss the president's executive order on policing, proposed reforms on Capitol Hill, the growing tension between China and India, and the Supreme Court's landmark Title VII decision.
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6/17/2020 • 1 hour, 19 minutes, 11 seconds
The Great Awokening
The Dispatch's own Andrew Egger and Declan Garvey join Steve for a discussion on the blow-up at The New York Times over its Tom Cotton op-ed, woke culture, Trump superfans, and the empathy gap.
Show Notes:
-The Wokening vs. the Trumpening
-Barack Obama on woke culture
-Andrew's piece on Trump superfans
-Declan's piece on the empathy gap
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6/12/2020 • 1 hour, 6 minutes, 4 seconds
Pain and Protest
Sarah, Steve, Jonah, and David discuss the continued fallout over the death of George Floyd and the events of Lafayette Square, why this moment feels different, police reform on Capitol Hill, and the "defund the police" movement.
Show Notes:
-The crackdown before Trump’s photo op
-David's Sunday newsletter
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6/10/2020 • 58 minutes, 56 seconds
Right Hand, Left Hand
Jane Coaston, senior politics reporter at Vox, joins Sarah and Steve for a wide-ranging discussion on racism and police violence as protests around the world continue over the death of George Floyd in Minneapolis.
Show Notes:
-Read Jane's work at Vox
-Follow Jane on Twitter
-The story of Right Hand, Left Hand
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6/5/2020 • 1 hour, 2 minutes, 59 seconds
Apples and Pink Flamingos
Sarah, Steve, Jonah, and David discuss the president's walk across Lafayette Square, protests around country sparked by George Floyd's death, Steve King's primary loss and what it says about the future of the GOP, protesting in the age of social distancing, and journalism ethics.
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6/3/2020 • 1 hour, 21 minutes, 56 seconds
Censorship Through Noise
McKay Coppins, staff writer at The Atlantic, joins Sarah and Steve to discuss his piece on disinformation in the 2020 campaign, Trump, Twitter, and the social media wars, and his advice for young reporters.
Show Notes:
-McKay's piece The Billion-Dollar Disinformation Campaign to Reelect the President
-McKay's book The Wilderness
-McKay's piece on The Dispatch
-Jonah's piece The Media Are Not on the Ballot
-McKay's piece on flying during a pandemic
-McKay's piece on the stockpile of food in his garage
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5/29/2020 • 57 minutes, 2 seconds
20 Hours on Twitter
Sarah and the guys discuss the president's threats to crack down on Twitter, Joe Biden's ‘Breakfast Club’ controversy, the death of George Floyd in Minneapolis, and the president pushing a conspiracy theory that falsely accuses Joe Scarborough of murder.
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5/27/2020 • 1 hour, 8 minutes, 14 seconds
Hell's Comin' With Me
Sarah, Steve, Jonah, and David discuss the debate over unemployment benefits, the firing of the State Department’s inspector general, the recently declassified email from Susan Rice, and the team makes their VP picks for Joe Biden.
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5/20/2020 • 1 hour, 11 minutes, 15 seconds
Paul Romer Has a Plan
Nobel Prize-winning economist Paul Romer joins Sarah and Steve to discuss his plan to safely and responsibly reopen the U.S. economy amid the coronavirus pandemic.
Show Notes:
-Roadmap to Responsibly Reopen America
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5/15/2020 • 50 minutes, 10 seconds
Coronavirus Machismo
Sarah, Jonah, and David discuss Joe Biden's lead in the polls, the special election in California, what is "Obamagate," and the future of social distancing and coronavirus.
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5/13/2020 • 1 hour, 7 minutes, 9 seconds
China's "Discourse Power"
Sarah and Steve are joined by Thomas Joscelyn, who writes the Vital Interests newsletter for The Dispatch, to discuss the diplomatic battle between the U.S. and China, Afghanistan exit deal, and how a Biden administration might change our foreign policy.
Show Notes:
-Tom's newsletter Vital Interests
-Explaining the Intense Diplomatic Battle Between the U.S. and China
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5/8/2020 • 53 minutes, 17 seconds
Struggle in the Pacific
Sarah and the guys take a deep dive into China from coronavirus to the battle for missile supremacy, reopening businesses around the country, the new culture war over wearing a mask, and the political fallout of a second wave of the pandemic.
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5/6/2020 • 1 hour, 22 minutes, 4 seconds
Men of Note
Bret Baier, chief political anchor at Fox News, joins Sarah and Steve to talk 2020 politics: Joe Biden's sexual misconduct allegation, veepstakes, Justin Amash's third-party run, and the president's handling of coronavirus.
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5/1/2020 • 36 minutes, 48 seconds
Protest Poop
Sarah, Steve, Jonah, and David discuss Justin Amash's move towards a third-party presidential run, the sexual misconduct allegation against Joe Biden, and round two of the paycheck protection program.
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4/29/2020 • 1 hour, 10 minutes, 39 seconds
Front Row Seat
Jonathan Karl, chief White House correspondent at ABC News, joins Sarah and Steve to discuss his new book Front Row at the Trump Show and how this presidency has changed the way we think about politics.
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4/24/2020 • 48 minutes, 45 seconds
Performative Bravado
Sarah and the guys discuss the protests to reopen the economy amid the coronavirus outbreak, testing capacity and the divide between the federal government and states, and the president's move to block new green cards.
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4/22/2020 • 1 hour, 8 minutes, 9 seconds
Kummerspeck
Sarah, Steve, Jonah, and David discuss the debate to reopen the economy amid the coronavirus pandemic, federalism and overreach by governors, and the president's decision to halt funding for the World Health Organization.
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4/15/2020 • 1 hour, 49 seconds
Pandemic Politics
Sarah and the guys discuss the politics of coronavirus from the election in Wisconsin to the 2020 veepstakes, missteps by the World Health Organization, and why coronavirus numbers have become another partisan debate.
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4/9/2020 • 1 hour, 1 minute, 40 seconds
Coronavirus and China
Sarah, Steve, Jonah, and David discuss China's role in the coronavirus outbreak, how governors are navigating this crisis, and the impact of the president's daily briefings.
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4/1/2020 • 1 hour, 8 minutes, 19 seconds
Battling Coronavirus
Sarah and the guys discuss the latest as the U.S. experiences the deadliest day yet of the coronavirus outbreak.
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3/26/2020 • 1 hour, 7 minutes, 39 seconds
Life Under Coronavirus
Sarah and the guys discuss all things coronavirus. Is federalism working? Are people taking the pandemic seriously? Impact on foreign policy? Relief packages on Capitol Hill? Future of the Democratic primary? And how are the guys talking to their kids about the outbreak?
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3/18/2020 • 1 hour, 17 minutes
Feminist Cul-de-sac
Sarah, Steve, Jonah, and David discuss the state of the Democratic primary after Joe Biden puts more distance between himself and Bernie Sanders, the team then take a feminist detour, and finishes with the effect coronavirus is having on the economy.
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3/11/2020 • 1 hour, 2 minutes, 12 seconds
Joe's Super Tuesday
Sarah, Steve, Jonah, and David have a lot to discuss after Joe Biden's campaign roared back to life with a number of big wins on Super Tuesday. Sarah also gets the guy's thoughts on the latest with coronavirus and the Afghanistan peace deal.
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3/4/2020 • 1 hour, 1 minute, 11 seconds
Arrogance is Folly
With South Carolina and Super Tuesday on the horizon, Sarah and the guys take a closer look at the Democratic field, examine the Trump administration's search for disloyalty, and weigh in on the Harvey Weinstein verdict and latest on coronavirus.
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2/26/2020 • 1 hour, 3 minutes, 4 seconds
Blagojevich Set Free
Sarah, Steve, Jonah, and David discuss the president's latest commutations including that of the former governor of Illinois Rod Blagojevich, and the upcoming Nevada caucuses in the Democratic primary.
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2/19/2020 • 1 hour, 4 minutes, 7 seconds
Messy Chaotic Lanes
Sarah and the guys examine the results of the New Hampshire primary, dive into the debate over electability and the importance of ideological lanes, and discuss the impact going forward of the move to lessen a sentencing recommendation for Roger Stone.
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2/13/2020 • 1 hour, 9 minutes, 20 seconds
Incompetence
Sarah, Steve, Jonah, and David take on what went wrong in Iowa and the future of the caucus, the president's third State of the Union address, and the end of the impeachment trial.
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2/5/2020 • 1 hour, 1 minute, 40 seconds
A Game of Witnesses
Sarah and the guys dig into the impeachment trial amid the witness dispute, the administration's Middle East peace plan, Britain and Huawei, Trump's impact on the pro-life movement, and predictions for Iowa and the Super Bowl.
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1/30/2020 • 1 hour, 26 seconds
Pettifogging
The team looks at the larger implications of the impeachment trial, the U.S. nuclear modernization efforts, the history of executive privilege, and that gun rally in Virginia.
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1/22/2020 • 51 minutes, 47 seconds
Foreign Policy Face Off
Sarah, Steve, Jonah, and David jump into the foreign policy clash at last night's Democratic debate, America's role in the protests in Iran, and preview the impeachment trial.
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1/16/2020 • 49 minutes, 27 seconds
At the Edge of War
Sarah, Steve, Jonah, and David launch their new podcast with a look at the situation between the U.S. and Iran, the latest with impeachment, and the president's proposed tariffs on European wine.
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1/8/2020 • 56 minutes, 22 seconds
Coming January 2020
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