【聊了什么The What】 疲惫娇娃的这期节目聊了在美国上映的电影“Didi (弟弟)”。这部电影探讨了成长的阵痛和13岁的男主角在加州的移民身份的问题。它是台裔导演王湘圣Sean Wang的处女作，也是一部自传性质的作品。故事围绕一个13岁的台裔美国男孩Chris展开。在2008年短短两个月的暑假里，他经历了初恋、与家人的矛盾、对自我身份的迷惘，以及发现了对视频制作和滑板的热爱。 我们从”didi/弟弟”这个电影名开始，聊了聊了我们对于这部怀旧青春电影的回应。故事中隐藏的重男轻女的情节和男孩在网络上的成长，都在我们自己作为90后的成长轨迹中有迹可循。 In this episode, we discuss the recently released American film "Didi" (meaning "little brother" in Chinese). This coming-of-age story explores the growing pains and immigrant identity of its 13-year-old protagonist in California. The film marks the directorial debut of Taiwanese-American filmmaker Sean Wang and draws heavily from his own experiences. The narrative centers on Chris, a 13-year-old Taiwanese-American boy, during a transformative two-month summer vacation in 2008. Throughout this brief period, Chris navigates his first love, family conflicts, identity confusion, and discovers his passion for videography and skateboarding. Starting with the film's title "Didi," we share our thoughts on this nostalgic youth drama. The subtle themes of gender preference and the boy's growth in the digital age resonate with our own experiences as late millennials. The story's portrayal of subtle gender bias within families and the protagonist's online coming-of-age journey mirror aspects of our own upbringings. 【时间轴 The When】 05:38 《弟弟》:一部关于2008年的怀旧电影 16:28 光标和键盘，PC和社交媒体，这个故事关于被互联网养大的我们 23:25 "Bro, that's so weird!":电影通过bro来传达健康的男性气质？ 30:36 陈冲的母亲角色:无条件的爱与包容 40:39 东亚式养育剧本:缺席的父亲、受困的母亲、离开的姐姐，和疼爱孙子的祖母 01:08:38 两代台湾导演的自传式电影对比，”来自女性的照料“如何被男性创作者们看到 05:38 didi is a nostalgic film set in 2008 16:28 the story explores how our generation was raised by the internet, featuring cursors, keyboards, PCs, and social media 23:25 the film may be attempting to convey healthy masculinity through the use of "bro" culture 30:36 Joan Chen portrays a mother figure characterized by unconditional love and acceptance 40:39 the movie presents a typical East Asian family dynamic with an absent father, a trapped mother, a departed sister, and a doting grandmother 01:08:38 a comparison with autobiographical works by different generations of Taiwanese directors, particularly in how male creators depict care from women 【疲惫红书 CyberRed】 除了播客以外，疲惫娇娃的几个女的在小红书上开了官方账号，我们会不定期发布【疲惫在读】、【疲惫在看】、【疲惫旅行】、【疲惫Vlog】等等更加轻盈、好玩、实验性质的内容。如果你想知道除了播客以外我们在关注什么，快来小红书评论区和我们互动。 Apart from the podcast, we have set up an official account on Xiaohongshu. We will periodically post content to talk about our readings, what we are watching, the events we are going to, and more. Leave us some comments on Xiaohongshu! 【买咖啡 Please Support Us】 如果喜欢这期节目并愿意想要给我们买杯咖啡： 海外用户：https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm 海内用户：https://afdian.net/@cyberpinkfm 商务合作邮箱：[email protected] 商务合作微信：CyberPink2022 If you like our show and want to support us, please consider the following: Those Abroad: https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm Those in China: https://afdian.net/@cyberpinkfm Business Inquiries Email: [email protected] Business Inquiries WeChat: CyberPink2022

【聊了什么The What】 “Minor Feelings”是由韩裔美国作家诗人Cathy Park Hong的一本书，通过回忆录、文化批评和历史回顾的方式探讨了亚裔美国人流动的身份、情感和经历。作者自己作为一个“东亚女儿”和“少数族裔作家”的多重身份让她能敏锐地感受一系列仿佛已经成为日常的羞耻、愤怒和自我怀疑。在美国这样一个高度种族化的社会，亚裔往往被塑造成“模范少数族裔”，他们的勤奋和成功成了主流社会维护现状的工具。然而，当他们感受到种族歧视时，这套话术往往又会阻止亚裔美国人的表达。这些因为边缘身份产生的”微妙情感“（minor feelings）与美国关于种族的主流叙事相冲突，和亚裔美国人这个群体一样在黑白分明的种族讨论中被忽视或误解。 这本书最近被翻译成了中文在中国发表，名为《少数派的感受》。我们也借此契机请到我们的好朋友，杜克大学教授周成荫来谈谈种族意识、模范少数族裔神话以及历史事件对个人和集体身份的影响。 我们也分享了自己的移民经历，以及这些微妙情绪是如何在我们的日常情境和系统结构中产生的。 "Minor Feelings" is a book by Korean-American poet and writer Cathy Park Hong that explores the fluid identity, emotions, and experiences of Asian Americans through memoir, cultural criticism, and historical review. As an "East Asian daughter" and a "minority writer," Hong keenly perceives a range of everyday feelings of shame, anger, and self-doubt. In the highly racialized society of America, Asians are often cast as the "model minority," with their diligence and success used as tools to uphold the status quo of mainstream society. However, when they experience racial discrimination, this narrative often stifles Asian Americans' expressions. These "minor feelings" that arise from marginalization conflict with the mainstream American narratives about race and, like the Asian American community, are often overlooked or misunderstood in the black-and-white racial discourse. Recently translated into Chinese and published in China, we took this opportunity to invite our good friend, Duke University professor Eileen Chow, to discuss racial consciousness, the model minority myth, and the impact of historical events on personal and collective identity. We also shared our own immigration experiences and how these subtle feelings arise in our everyday situations. 【时间轴 The When】 00:29 《少数派的感受》:一本探讨亚裔美国人身份和经历的重要著作 02:50 解析“微妙情绪“:少数族裔在美国的日常挣扎 08:06 一代移民与二代移民的经历对比 13:40 亚裔美国人身份认同的复杂性 20:20 大学里的亚裔学生组织:寻找归属感 31:03 Eileen和小蓝在职场中的微妙种族歧视经历 45:14 亚裔内部的代际矛盾:政治立场的分歧 52:23 共同体意识的形成与挑战 01:17:22 多元文化经历作为一种“超能力” 01:24:39 如何利用自己的特权推动社会进步 00:29 “Minor Feelings”: A crucial book exploring Asian American identity and experiences 02:50 Analyzing “minor feelings”: Daily struggles of minorities in America 08:06 Comparing first-generation and second-generation immigrant experiences 13:40 The complexity of the Asian American identity 20:20 Asian student organizations in college: Searching for belonging 31:03 Eileen and Xiaolan's experience with subtle racial discrimination in the workplace 45:14 Generational conflicts and political stance divergences within Asian communities 52:23 Forming a coalition and a collective consciousness 01:17:22 Multicultural experiences as a “superpower” 01:24:39 Reflecting on how to use privilege to drive social progress 【拓展链接 The Links】 登上《时代》杂志封面的“东亚女儿” - 澎湃新闻 亚裔美国人，一个美丽但充满缺陷的虚构故事 Letter to My Child: Cathy Park Hong on the Peculiar Rhythms of Life During Quarantine 【疲惫红书 CyberRed】 除了播客以外，疲惫娇娃的几个女的在小红书上开了官方账号，我们会不定期发布【疲惫在读】、【疲惫在看】、【疲惫旅行】、【疲惫Vlog】等等更加轻盈、好玩、实验性质的内容。如果你想知道除了播客以外我们在关注什么，快来小红书评论区和我们互动。 Apart from the podcast, we have set up an official account on Xiaohongshu. We will periodically post content to talk about our readings, what we are watching, the events we are going to, and more. Leave us some comments on Xiaohongshu! 【买咖啡 Please Support Us】 如果喜欢这期节目并愿意想要给我们买杯咖啡： 海外用户：https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm 海内用户：https://afdian.net/@cyberpinkfm 商务合作邮箱：[email protected] 商务合作微信：CyberPink2022 If you like our show and want to support us, please consider the following: Those Abroad: https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm Those in China: https://afdian.net/@cyberpinkfm Business Inquiries Email: [email protected] Business Inquiries WeChat: CyberPink2022

疲惫娇娃已经不知不觉更新了50期！在2024年的年中，我们邀请大家继续支持这四个女的把播客做大做强。感恩有你们。 【聊了什么The What】 这是一期六月份录制的疲惫娇娃的夏日氛围检查。我们紧急（？）抽查了四个女的的精神状态，以及如何应对“2024年怎么就过了一大半”的时间之谜。 同时，我们瞎扯了在这个夏天在各地的旅行和观察，包括眉头紧锁忧虑意大利经济、在南法的戛纳边参加婚礼边沉浸式体验班味十足的影展、在伦敦搬砖却被锁在共享工作室外要靠美国人来救等等。另外我们还闲聊了一些推荐的书和展。以及在路上 vs 在家土豆 vs 在路上土豆的种种支撑四个女的把日子好好过下去的精神养料。 另外，大家可以关注我们的小红书去看我们提到的萨金特展。 Recorded back in June, this is our summer vibe check with CyberPink. We conducted an urgent(?) mental health check on the four women and explored the time-bending mystery of "How is 2024 already half over?" We chat about our summer travels and observations, our concerns over Europe's economy, recounting our experience attending a distinctly not-chill Cannes film festival, starving in the south of France, being locked out of a shared workspace in London, only to be rescued by overworked Americans. We also chat about books and exhibitions, and discuss the various intellectual nourishments that keep us going - whether we're potating on the road or couch-potating at home. Please follow our Red (Xiaohongshu) account to see the Sargent Exhibition. By the way, CyberPink has quietly reached its 50th episode! As we hit the midpoint of 2024, we invite you to continue supporting these four women in making this podcast a better one. 【时间轴 The When】 02:25 2024怎么就过了一大半 + 山西午休文化 13:45 四个女的为啥吵架——对于发短信、线上沟通的不同期待 29:30 我们几个在夏天去了哪里，做了什么 46:27 我们看了什么剧、看了什么书 01:01:28 我们看了那些展，对于这些展的解读 02:25 How is 2024 already half over? + Shanxi's siesta culture 13:45 Why women argue: Differing expectations for texting etiquette and how to get stuff done 29:30 Our summer adventures: Where we went and what we did 46:27 Screen time and page-turners: TV shows and books we've enjoyed 01:01:28 Art in focus: Exhibitions we've visited and our interpretations 【拓展链接 The Links】 Snakehead: An Epic Tale of the Chinatown Underworld and the American Dream Biography of X: A Novel The Light Eaters: The Unseen Intelligence Shaping Our Understanding Monsters: A Fan's Dilemma John Singer Sargent Yoko Ono exhibition at Tate Modern Unravel: The Power and Politics of Textiles in Art Rogues by Patrick Radden Keefe 【疲惫红书 CyberRed】 除了播客以外，疲惫娇娃的几个女的在小红书上开了官方账号，我们会不定期发布【疲惫在读】、【疲惫在看】、【疲惫旅行】、【疲惫Vlog】等等更加轻盈、好玩、实验性质的内容。如果你想知道除了播客以外我们在关注什么，快来小红书评论区和我们互动。 Apart from the podcast, we have set up an official account on Xiaohongshu. We will periodically post content such as “CyberPink Reading,” “CyberPink Watching,” “CyberPink Traveling,” “CyberPink Vlog,” and more. Those are lighter, more fun and more experimental stuff about our lives. Leave us some comments on Xiaohongshu! 【买咖啡 Please Support Us】 如果喜欢这期节目并愿意想要给我们买杯咖啡： 海外用户：https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm 海内用户：https://afdian.net/@cyberpinkfm 商务合作邮箱：[email protected] 商务合作微信：CyberPink2022 If you like our show and want to support us, please consider the following: Those Abroad: https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm Those in China: https://afdian.net/@cyberpinkfm Business Inquiries Email: [email protected] Business Inquiries WeChat: CyberPink2022

【聊了什么The What】 第96届奥斯卡颁奖典礼在两天前刚刚结束，疲惫娇娃在所有奖项公布之后录了一期播客来聊聊我们当下的感受和反应。在奥斯卡这个奖项在过去的很多年被反复的质疑、挑战之后，在以“学院奖”自居的奥斯卡看起来越来越和时代精神脱节时，我们还是想借助这个颁奖典礼，来重新审视“学院奖”和2023年许多电影（比如《芭比》）和社会事件（比如全世界正在发生的战争）的交织和互动，从而去审视支撑它的历史包袱、权力、固化和正在逐步调整的审美——以及，为什么它仍旧是电影节的最高奖项？赢得它，或者不赢得它，提名，或者不被它提名，意味着什么。 The CyberPink squad is back with an episode on the recently wrapped 96th Academy Awards! Over the past few years, the Academy Awards have faced a lot of questioning and criticism. As the self-proclaimed pinnacle of cinematic excellence, the Academy is struggling to maintain its reputation and convince people of its relevance. But the Oscars ceremony still provides an interesting lens to examine how this major cultural institution addresses ongoing events - from the writers and actors strikes to the conflict in Gaza. Which films, actors and actresses win ultimately is not based on merit, but on a myriad of factors and a relentless awards season campaign that has become the norm of the industry, a profound legacy of none other than Harvey Weinstein and his company Miramax. We discuss the history of Oscars, its genre bias, and what we think about the “Barbie snub.” 【拓展链接 The Links】 https://www.vox.com/culture/2024/3/11/24097323/jonathan-glazer-oscar-acceptance-speech-gaza-controversy 【疲惫红书 CyberRed】 除了播客以外，疲惫娇娃的几个女的在小红书上开了官方账号，我们会不定期发布【疲惫在读】、【疲惫在看】、【疲惫旅行】、【疲惫Vlog】等等更加轻盈、好玩、实验性质的内容。如果你想知道除了播客以外我们在关注什么，快来小红书评论区和我们互动。 Apart from the podcast, we have set up an official account on Xiaohongshu. We will periodically post content such as “CyberPink Reading,” “CyberPink Watching,” “CyberPink Traveling,” “CyberPink Vlog,” and more. Those are lighter, more fun and more experimental stuff about our lives. Leave us some comments on Xiaohongshu! 【买咖啡 Please Support Us】 如果喜欢这期节目并愿意想要给我们买杯咖啡： 海外用户：https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm 海内用户：https://afdian.net/@cyberpinkfm 商务合作邮箱：[email protected] 商务合作微信：CyberPink2022 If you like our show and want to support us, please consider the following: Those Abroad: https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm Those in China: https://afdian.net/@cyberpinkfm Business Inquiries Email: [email protected] Business Inquiries WeChat: CyberPink2022

【聊了什么The What】 2023年末，疲惫娇娃又与友台不合时宜录制了一期“不时疲惫”，与大家分享一些2023年我们不愿意透露的脆弱时刻。我们围坐在一起，聊起过去一年中各自独自在黑夜与灵魂对视的脆弱瞬间、无法解开的心结、尚未获得疗愈的创伤。希望你听到这期节目能够收获一些力量。大家新年快乐。 As the ball is about to drop to ring in 2024, CyberPink joined up with our comrades to put together another episode — a raw confessional session airing those vulnerabilities from the past year that we’d rather keep under wraps. We gathered round, spinning yarns into the wee hours about our solitary moments of fragility over months past, staring into the abyss of our souls as darkness enveloped us; the lingering emotional baggage yet to be reconciled and wounds still laid bare for all to see. And cheers to a bright new year ahead, friends. 【时间轴 The When】 （本次时间轴文案由不合时宜提供） 01:35 这期节目的由来：不时疲惫一相聚，都会jam出一集节目；而这期节目关于脆弱和痛苦 03:34 第一次去做心理咨询，心路历程经历了什么变化? 10:43 当一段亲密关系逝去以后，“我”的一部分似乎被带走 14:17 跟父母的关系——遥远又亲近 22:28 埋藏在你的成长经历当中的基底，确实形塑了你是什么样的一个人 36:45 和黑暗的情绪共处时，你用什么方式拉自己出来？ 52:33 因为ego的保护，自己可能看不到一些真相 01:01:28 现代人的情绪问题不是一个个体的现象，而是集体性、社会性的现象 01:04:12 在“钱越花越有”的口号下，人人向往模板化的生活，遮蔽了内心真正的追寻 01:09:57 为什么身心灵吸引了那么多女性,这是女权的失败吗? 01:15:13 如何理解宗教对现代社会的作用? 01:25:32 在活着以外，还能做一些正向的事情,就已经额外再创造意义了 01:30:16 如何平衡、界定EGO和自我主体? 01:35 we reunited and had this soulful discussions flow, as in this episode pondering vulnerability and anguish 03:34 One's inaugural therapy session - an intense inner reckoning 10:43 As intimacy dissolves, the lingering sense of losing part of oneself 14:17 Bonds with our parents - profoundly close yet distant 22:28 How the cornerstones of our formative years shape the essence of our identities 36:45 Battling melancholy moods - drawing one's psyche toward sanguinity 52:33 Does ego shield us from difficult self-truths? 01:01:28 Emotional malaise today is not merely personal but shared collective discontent 01:04:12 The compulsion to believe in “the more you consume, the more you have” obscures genuine inner purpose 01:09:57 Why does self-care retain feminine coding - a patriarchal relic? 01:15:13 Can religion still sustain modern life's demands? 01:30:16 Reconciling ego and selfhood - a perpetual undertaking 【拓展链接 The Links】 Gift from the Sea by Anne Morrow Lindbergh 【疲惫红书 CyberRed】 除了播客以外，疲惫娇娃的几个女的在小红书上开了官方账号，我们会不定期发布【疲惫在读】、【疲惫在看】、【疲惫旅行】、【疲惫Vlog】等等更加轻盈、好玩、实验性质的内容。如果你想知道除了播客以外我们在关注什么，快来小红书评论区和我们互动。 Apart from the podcast, we have set up an official account on Xiaohongshu. We will periodically post content such as “CyberPink Reading,” “CyberPink Watching,” “CyberPink Traveling,” “CyberPink Vlog,” and more. Those are lighter, more fun and more experimental stuff about our lives. Leave us some comments on Xiaohongshu! 【买咖啡 Please Support Us】 如果喜欢这期节目并愿意想要给我们买杯咖啡： 海外用户：https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm 海内用户：https://afdian.net/@cyberpinkfm 商务合作邮箱：[email protected] 商务合作微信：CyberPink2022 If you like our show and want to support us, please consider the following: Those Abroad: https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm Those in China: https://afdian.net/@cyberpinkfm Business Inquiries Email: [email protected] Business Inquiries WeChat: CyberPink2022

【聊了什么The What】 本期关于性，而且只关于性——这个在当代社会和日常生活无法被绕过的话题，一把了解自己的钥匙。 我们趁着录制这次节目的契机，从大脑里提取出了我们关于性的记忆，哪些小时候看到的画面和角色给了我们性启蒙？同时，我们也聊了最近HBO颇有争议的一部剧集「偶像漩涡」（英语：The Idol），以及里面糟糕的对女性和性的刻画。我们也找出了一些近些年银幕上受人欢迎并且对女性的性欲有正面和积极的解读，鼓励我们去直视自己的欲望。 娇娃画外音：本集播客提到的所有性行为和对于性的解读都是出自于我们的个人经历，我们是以异性恋和顺直女身份的视角去观察和谈论性，所以会有异性恋中心主义的局限性。 录制期间我们将西门庆说成了“妹夫”，西门庆不是妹夫也不想做妹夫，望周知。 本期节目是由“成年人世界里的一点甜”的女性情趣品牌——大人糖赞助的定制播客。在本期节目里你能听到疲惫娇娃们对进阶新产品”兔子月“的细致使用体验。 In this episode, we talk about a very under-explored topic in pop culture -- sex (lol) We reminisce about the pop culture characters from childhood that sparked our sexual awakening. We critique the controversial HBO series "The Idol" for its terrible portrayals of desirability and sex. We also discuss recent shows praised for their positive depictions of female sexuality, encouraging women to embrace their own wants and needs. A note from CyberPink - our perspectives come from personal experiences as cis heterosexual women, which come with inherent limitations. This episode is sponsored by the female sexual wellness brand OSUGA. Tune in to hear our thoughts on their sex toy "Rabbit Moon"! 【听众福利 The Deal】 对大人糖产品感兴趣的朋友们，可通过以下2种方式获得专属优惠，兔子月原价599元，领券后到手价499元，备注还可额外赠送158元大礼包，同时之前推荐的小海豹和逗豆鸟这次依然会给到优惠！更多信息可以点击链接查看详情哦✌️ 1⃣️点击这里跳转或复制口令【￥pqPBdtNklHp￥】领专属优惠券，下单直接满减 2⃣️淘宝搜索【大人糖旗舰店】，私信客服，报暗号【疲惫娇娃】领券下单 重要提示！ 1、下单时记得一定要备注【疲惫娇娃】才会随单一起送出礼包哦 2、部分苹果手机是最新系统的听友可能会遇到口令无法跳转的情况，选择第2种方式购买也可以的哦 另外！考虑到我们有部分海外听众，也可通过点击➡️ OSUGA 下单输入优惠码【疲惫娇娃40】可立减40刀，但到手价格&优惠政策与国内不同享，有需要的朋友们可以自由选择啦～ 【时间轴 The When】 01:50 几个见过世面的娇娃们对进阶新产品“兔子月”大呼牛逼，并且激情介绍产品详情和真实使用体验（此次聊了整整十分钟） 10: 08 疲惫娇娃们的银幕性启蒙，大陆影视剧中拧巴的女性性主体和港台片中媚骨天成的女性角色们 14:10 迪士尼版本「巴黎圣母院」中的性压抑：性力量能转化成黑暗和毁灭 17:25 「情深深 雨濛濛」中的两代女性悲剧，以及银幕上平凡的性 21:27 「赎罪」中禁忌和跨越阶级的性 25:40 女性仍然卡在”不知道如何表达性需求“这一步 28:20 HBO的「The Idol 偶像漩涡」中对女性身体和性的糟糕刻画 42:20 Netflix的「Never Have I Ever 好想做一次」中积极的性理念 49:17 骄傲月中的灵感 01:50 We rave about the advanced new product "Rabbit Moon" and enthusiastically (maybe too much) introduce product details and real user experiences (we talked for a full 10 minutes!) 10:08 Cyberpink’s sexual awakenings from movies and TV shows - twisted female sexual subjects in mainland Chinese media vs alluring female characters in Hong Kong & Taiwanese media 14:10 Sexual repression in the Disney version of "The Hunchback of Notre Dame": sexual power can transform into darkness and destruction 17:25 Two generations of women's tragedies in "Romance in the Rain", and mundane sex on screen 21:27 Forbidden and cross-class sex in "Atonement" 25:40 Women still don’t know how to express sexual needs 28:20 HBO's "The Idol" and its terrible portrayals of the female body and sexuality 42:20 The positive sexual ethos in Netflix's "Never Have I Ever" 49:17 Asian sex icons and inspirations during Pride Month 【拓展链接 The Links】 偶像旋涡 (The Idol) 好想做一次 (Never Have I Ever) 赎罪 (Atonement) 【疲惫红书 CyberRed】 除了播客以外，疲惫娇娃的几个女的在小红书上开了官方账号，我们会不定期发布【疲惫在读】、【疲惫在看】、【疲惫旅行】、【疲惫Vlog】等等更加轻盈、好玩、实验性质的内容。如果你想知道除了播客以外我们在关注什么，快来小红书评论区和我们互动。 【买咖啡 Please Support Us】 如果喜欢这期节目并愿意想要给我们买杯咖啡： 海外用户：https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm 海内用户：https://afdian.net/@cyberpinkfm 商务合作邮箱：[email protected] 商务合作微信：CyberPink2022 If you like our show and want to support us, please consider the following: Those Abroad：https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm Those in China：https://afdian.net/@cyberpinkfm Business Inquiries Email：[email protected] Business Inquiries WeChat： CyberPink2022

【聊了什么The What】 为了抵制创作零工化和资本借用语言大模型去剥削本已经雪上加霜的编剧们，好莱坞的编剧们从从五月初开始了一场由工会WGA带领的旷日持久的罢工。上万名编剧加入罢工运动 ，多档谈话类节目停播，我们喜欢的深夜脱口秀和很多剧集都不同程度地受到了影响。 这集疲惫娇娃从这场罢工谈起，拷问资本，拷问人工智能的幽灵，以及解读被流媒体资本蚕食的处境堪忧的好莱坞创意“劳工”的处境。我们为此采访了电视电影编剧以及导演Maegan Houang黃志信，她也是此次WGA工会的罢工领袖(strike captain)之一。此次采访是英文，所以Maegan的观点由小蓝转述。 Movie and TV writers started a prolonged strike led by the Writers Guild of America (WGA) in early May, demanding better revenue share from the studios and protection from the threat of artificial intelligence. The strike has resulted in the suspension of multiple talk shows, some of our favorite late-night shows, and delayed production of many drama series. In this episode of CyberPink, we talk about the reasons behind this strike, and how streaming and the era of prestige TV changed the industry's revenue structure. We interviewed director and writer Maegan Houang, who is a strike captain at WGA, about why she decided to start the strike and what she thinks the studios need to do. The points she made (the interview was in English) were relayed and incorporated throughout the episodes. 【时间轴 The When】 1:10 好莱坞编剧大罢工是什么？发生了什么？ 06:40 剧集创作零工化的真实代价 10:35 神圣的“编剧室“模式已经破产？ 18:10 WGA和生成式大语言模型的对峙：如何区分人工智能创作与人的创作？ 23:30 人类和”人工智能“的第一次接触，与第二次接触; 人类是否注定要向多巴胺妥协 28:00 需要被拷问的不是大语言模型，而是资本之后人的贪婪 34:50 工会存在的意义 1:10 What is the WGA strike about? What changes in the industry led to it? 06:40 The real cost of gigification in writing 10:35 Has the sacred “writers’ room” model gone bankrupt? 18:10 Writers vs. generative large language models: the need to distinguish AI creation from human creation? 23:30 The first and second encounters between humans and “Artificial Intelligence” 28:00 The one that needs to be interrogated is not the large language model, but the greed of humans after capital 34:50 The significance of the existence of a union 【拓展链接 The Links】 【买咖啡 Please Support Us】 如果喜欢这期节目并愿意想要给我们买杯咖啡： 海外用户：https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm 海内用户：https://afdian.net/@cyberpinkfm 商务合作邮箱：[email protected] 商务合作微信：CyberPink2022 If you like our show and want to support us, please consider the following: Those Abroad: https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm Those in China: https://afdian.net/@cyberpinkfm Business Inquiries Email: [email protected] Business Inquiries WeChat: CyberPink2022