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Embodying Change: Cultivating Caring and Compassionate Organisations

English, Finance, 3 seasons, 52 episodes, 1 day, 12 hours, 41 minutes
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A podcast for people who’ve dedicated their careers to helping others – but eventually realise they need help, too. Conversations about promoting care and compassion in humanitarian and development settings and sharing what we are learning about promoting and supporting aid worker well-being and organisational culture.
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52. The System Changer Sleepover with Debra Peltz

In this episode, Melissa Pitotti talks with Debra Peltz, founder of CollabWork and a well-being champion with a 25-year career in senior administration roles. Debra shares her journey from volunteering in Sri Lanka to working at Save the Children UK and eventually launching her own business. They explore:What it means to truly "embody change" in your personal and professional life.Debra’s work at Save the Children UK, first supporting the Exec Director for HR before moving into a Wellbeing Lead role, where she developed and implemented strategies to promote psychological safety, enhance mental health, and build resilience across the organization.The creation of her Wellbeing Forum, a community space for sharing ideas, supporting each other, and promoting employee well-being.Insights into the System Changer Sleepover retreat, designed to foster collaboration and support among women in the humanitarian space.Practical tips for maintaining well-being and balance in demanding roles.Key Quotes:"It’s not just about talking or planning change, but showing it through everyday choices.""Well-being leaders give so much to others, but they often forget about themselves until it's too late."Connect with Debra:Website: collabwork.co.ukLinkedIn: Debra PeltzMentioned in this Episode:Wellbeing Forum - This is a collaborative working group of wellbeing professionals from over 60 diverse organizations, dedicated to employee health and well-being. It’s a space where ideas flow freely, challenges are met head-on, and meaningful connections are formed. If you hold the role of Wellbeing Lead, Advisor, or HR Manager or have dual responsibility and would like to join, email [email protected]. Debra’s new venture, CollabWork Virtual Business Support, helps entrepreneurs and small business owners take their workload from overwhelming to manageable. With over 25 years of experience as an award-winning Executive Assistant, Debra’s approach is personal and tailored, focusing on understanding your unique needs to simplify your daily operations. Whether it’s managing schedules, organizing projects, or handling research, CollabWork is about making your life easier so you can focus on what truly matters. It’s virtual support, but with a human touch. If you or someone you know could use a bit of extra support, feel free to reach out and see how you could collaborate. www.collabwork.co.uk or email her at [email protected].
10/11/202434 minutes, 40 seconds
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51. Leading from the heart with Sarah Noble

In this episode, Melissa Pitotti is joined by Sarah Noble, Head of Global Engagement at the Caux Initiatives of Change Foundation. Sarah shares her unique perspective on peace-building, storytelling, and how inner development can create outer change. Together, they discuss:The history and mission of the Caux Palace as a gathering place for change-makers.Sarah’s journey from working at The New Humanitarian to her current role at the Caux Foundation.The importance of storytelling in peace and conflict resolution.Practical ways to incorporate quiet time and self-reflection into your life.How the Inner Development Goals framework helps accelerate progress to tackle global challenges.A preview of the System Changer Sleepover retreat, a space for women in the humanitarian sector to connect and collaborate on systems change and workforce well-being.About Sarah NobleSarah is originally from Canada and has lived in Switzerland for more than half her life. She has dedicated her career to building a better world through storytelling and peacebuilding. In her TEDx talk, Storytelling is Our Real-Life Superpower, she highlights the power of stories to address the existential challenges of our time. With over 20 years of experience in strategic communications, fundraising, and partnerships, Sarah co-founded and curates the Peace Talks at Interpeace. She has overseen more than 20 editions across eight countries and worked with over 200 speakers. Previously, she served as Director of External Relations at The New Humanitarian, leading its rebranding and expanding its funding base. Sarah holds an MA in International Affairs and volunteers as the Country Chair of Global Dignity for Switzerland.Key Quotes:"Embodying change is about being the change you want to see, and leading from the heart, not just the mind.""Quiet time is not a luxury—it's an essential practice for inner and outer peace.""We all need to be like the hummingbird, doing the best that we can, even when the world seems overwhelming."Connect with Sarah and the Caux Foundation:Website: caux.chLearn more about their summer forums, events, and how to host your own gathering at the Caux Palace.Mentioned in this Episode:Wangari Maathai, the Kenyan environmentalist and Nobel Peace Prize laureate. She was the founder of the Green Belt Movement and the first African woman to receive the Nobel Peace Prize in 2004 for her efforts in sustainable development, democracy, and peace. The hummingbird story is a beautiful story she often shared to illustrate the importance of individual action in the face of seemingly overwhelming challenges.Here is a recording of her telling of it.PeaceTalks - website The New Humanitarian - websiteInner Development Goals (IDG) - websiteSystem Changer Sleepover – contact Melissa Pitotti on LinkedIn for more details
10/4/202436 minutes, 49 seconds
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50. Duty of Care with Rebecca Maudling

Ever wonder how aid workers can stay safe in some of the world’s most dangerous environments? Rebecca Maudling, is on a mission to make sure humanitarian staff not only survive but feel confident and equipped to do their work safely — even in the toughest conditions. From co-founding an organization that helps NGOs work more safely, to reshaping how we think about mental health in crisis zones, Rebecca's insights on duty of care are hard earned. Stay tuned to the end to hear her big news about an exciting event coming up. Today’s GuestRebecca is Co-Founder & Director of International Location Safety (ILS). She co-founded the organization, growing it from a start-up to its current position as a leading provider of security risk management services within the humanitarian aid and development sector. ILS supports organizations globally to meet their Duty of Care obligations and enable their staff to work in challenging situations around the world. As the business has grown, she has built up a fantastic team and so although now less involved in the day-to-day running of the business, she retains strategic oversight and a passion for supporting organizations to protect and care for their staff. Key Topics Discussed:Embodying Change: Courage to challenge the status quo and live in alignment with personal valuesThe ILS Origin Story: How Rebecca and her co-founder started ILS to provide safety and security training for humanitarian organizationsThe Core Services of ILS: Hostile Environment Awareness Training (HEAT), which is simulation-based safety, security and first aid training for staff working in complex environments, and Duty of Care Benchmarking, which assesses organizational practices around to ensuring the safety, security and well-being of staff in high-risk environmentsPsychological Well-being: How ILS integrates psychological safety into their training and organizational supportSector Trends: Growing awareness of mental health and well-being in the humanitarian sectorAidEx 2024: Highlights of the upcoming Duty of Care Pavilion, including sessions on safeguarding, AI, crisis management, and LGBTQ+ inclusion in duty of care practicesKey Takeaway:Rebecca emphasizes the importance of connection—both to oneself and to others—in sustaining well-being, especially in high-pressure environments like humanitarian work.Connect with ILS:Website: https://www.locationsafety.com/ILS Duty of Care conference: https://www.locationsafety.com/aidex-2024AidEx website: https://www.aid-expo.com/whats-on/ils-duty-of-care-pavilion-and-conferenceILS LinkedIn page: https://www.linkedin.com/company/international-location-safety/Rebecca’s personal LinkedIn page: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rebecca-maudling/Upcoming Events:AidEx 2024 Duty of Care Pavilion: Join Rebecca and her team in Geneva on October 23-24 for key discussions on aid worker safety and well-being. https://www.aid-expo.com/whats-on/ils-duty-of-care-pavilion-and-conference System Changer Sleepover (Oct 25-27): A follow-up event for women in the humanitarian sector to discuss workforce well-being and systemic change. Contact [email protected] for more details. Quotes"Embodying change requires courage—courage to challenge the status quo and live in alignment with your values, even when it's difficult." – Rebecca Maudling"We put psychological well-being at the heart of what we do. If you're not in a good mental place, you're not going to make good decisions under stress." – Rebecca Maudling"The conversations around well-being in the humanitarian sector are happening more than ever. But there's still a long way to go." – Rebecca Maudling"For us, it’s not just about teaching people how to survive hostile environments—it’s about helping them feel confident and empowered to do their work safely." – Rebecca Maudling"When it comes to duty of care, it's not enough to have policies on paper. It’s about putting them into practice and making sure they actually work on the ground." – Rebecca Maudling"Connection—to yourself and to others—is vital. You need to know what you need to sustain yourself and have a support network in place, especially when times get tough." – Rebecca Maudling"We're seeing more conversations about mental health being just as important as physical health. That’s a positive shift, but there’s still so much more we can do." – Rebecca Maudling"The humanitarian sector is facing unprecedented risks, and it’s never been more important to...
9/12/202427 minutes, 28 seconds
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49. The INGO Problem with Deborah Doane

In this episode, Melissa Pitotti speaks with Deborah Doane, author of The INGO Problem: Power, Privilege, and Renewal. Deborah brings decades of experience in the humanitarian and development sectors, from leading the Ombudsman Project for humanitarian accountability to co-founding the RINGO Project, which is pushing for systemic change in global civil society. The conversation explores key themes from Deborah’s book, including the challenges of reforming the INGO sector, shifting power to local actors, and embracing new roles for INGOs in the future.Key topics covered:A perspective on "embodying change": Deborah’s reflection on lifelong learning, stepping back, and listening.The INGO Problem: Power dynamics, accountability, and how the current INGO system can sideline rather than support local actors.The RINGO Project: Systems change and prototypes like the Reverse Call for Proposals that aim to shift power and resources to local civil society organizations.The future of INGOs: where INGOs move away from direct service delivery and focus on facilitation, advocacy, and fiscal sponsorship for local actors.The role of donors: How funding mechanisms must evolve to support more equitable, trust-based partnerships.Learning from prototypes: RINGO’s innovation approach, trying out new models for accountability, risk management, and participatory grant-making.Quotes:“Embodying change means constantly learning, living my values, and interrogating my own actions.” – Deborah Doane“If INGOs truly want to show solidarity, they need to shift their role from service delivery to supporting local actors to lead.” – Deborah Doane“The bureaucracy and compliance requirements are protecting no one—they need a revolution.” – Deborah Doane“Prototyping is about trying something out, and if it doesn’t work, you’ve still learned something.” – Deborah Doane“We need to rethink the role of INGOs in the future—they must be smaller, more flexible, and in service to local communities.” – Deborah Doane"The need for system-wide change is clear, and everyone has a role to play." – Nana Asantewa AfadzinuDeborah Doane is an independent consultant and author with over two decades of experience in humanitarian and development sectors. She has led key initiatives like the RINGO Project and the Ombudsman Project, which focused on bringing accountability to the humanitarian aid sector. Her latest book, The INGO Problem, explores the power dynamics and privilege embedded in international NGOs and how to move toward a more equitable system.Connect with Deborah Doane:LinkedInResources Mentioned:The INGO Problem: Power, Privilege, and Renewal by Deborah Doane: Purchase hereThe Ringo Project: Learn more hereThe Pledge for Change: WebsiteCHS Alliance: WebsiteCall to Action:If you want to dive deeper into how INGOs operate and how they can shift power to local communities, pick up Deborah’s book, The INGO Problem. Let’s continue these important conversations on how we can all contribute to meaningful, system-wide change.
9/6/202445 minutes, 20 seconds
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48. Sitting in the gray with Elisha Smith Arrillaga

What does it mean to sit in the gray areas of change? How can philanthropy better support nonprofit leaders and staff in these challenging times?In today’s episode of Embodying Change, host Melissa Pitotti speaks with Elisha Smith Arrillaga, a thought leader in philanthropy and the leader of the research team at the Center for Effective Philanthropy. Elisha shares her journey from a childhood deeply influenced by civil rights activism to her role in shaping effective philanthropic practices. The conversation covers critical topics, including the findings from the 2024 State of Nonprofits report, which highlights the ongoing burnout crisis among nonprofit leaders, and the transformative impact of large, unrestricted gifts as seen in Mackenzie Scott’s philanthropy.Elisha also provides a sneak peek into their upcoming research, exploring the differences in grantee experiences when receiving funds directly from foundations versus intermediaries. This episode is packed with insights for anyone passionate about the future of philanthropy and nonprofit well-being.Today’s GuestElisha Smith Arrillaga is the Director of Research at the Center for Effective Philanthropy (CEP). She has dedicated her career to ensuring that philanthropic practices are grounded in research and focused on maximizing their positive impact on nonprofits and the communities they serve.Website: Center for Effective PhilanthropySocial Media: LinkedInYou’ll  hear:What embodying change means in the context of philanthropyElisha’s journey from a childhood rooted in social justice to leading research at CEPInsights from the 2024 State of Nonprofits report on burnout and staff well-beingThe impact of Mackenzie Scott’s large, unrestricted gifts on nonprofit organizationsHow funders perceive nonprofits' capacity to manage large gifts and what this says about the systemResources mentionedThe Big Gifts Report: The Impact of Large, Unsrestricted GiftsState of Nonprofits 2024: What Funders Need to KnowTrust-Based Philanthropy: Trust-Based Philanthropy ProjectHaas Fund Case Study: SSIR article on operationalizing trustWellbeing Project: The Wellbeing ProjectQuotes“Embodying change means being able to sit in the gray areas and take the best of all kinds of solutions.” – Elisha Smith Arrillaga“Supporting nonprofit leaders and staff is crucial to achieving their missions—burnout can't be ignored.” – Elisha Smith Arrillaga“Receiving large, unrestricted gifts boosts leadership confidence and allows for greater innovation and impact.” – Elisha Smith Arrillaga“Flexibility in funding allows organizations to plan effectively and respond creatively to challenges.” – Elisha Smith Arrillaga“There are assumptions about nonprofits’ ability to manage large gifts, but our research shows they can, and they do amazing things with those funds.” – Elisha Smith ArrillagaCall to ActionSubscribe to the Embodying Change podcast for more inspiring conversations.Visit cep.org to learn more about the Center for Effective Philanthropy and their research.Join or listen to the replay of the CEP’s webinar on October 15th to dive deeper into their latest report on intermediaries in philanthropy.
8/30/202439 minutes, 1 second
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47. Cultivating thriving workplaces with Leanne Marega

How can we create a thriving workplace culture in the humanitarian sector? In today’s episode of Embodying Change, host Melissa Pitotti welcomes Leanne Marega, a pioneer in humanitarian workforce well-being and a founder of Thrive Worldwide. Leanne shares her journey from Interhealth Worldwide to founding Thrive Worldwide, emphasizing the critical role of culture in fostering thriving workplaces. You’ll hear about the importance of healthy boundaries, the challenges of leadership in times of crisis, and practical steps to create supportive work environments.Leanne also opens up about her personal battle with cancer and how it influenced her perspective on well-being and leadership. Her story of hope and community support during a challenging time offers valuable insights for anyone facing similar struggles. Today’s GuestLeanne Marega is Co-Founder and CEO for Thrive Worldwide bringing over 15 years experience in the wellbeing industry. Prior to Thrive, Leanne worked with InterHealth Worldwide for eight years, 4 of those years as Regional Director for Eastern Africa based in Kenya. Leanne is an entrepreneur with a heart to see people and organisations flourish. Leanne has a Masters from University of East London (UEL) in International Humanitarian Psychosocial Consultation. She is also a trained Coach from the Awaken Coach Institute. Leanne lives between the UK and Kenya with her husband. She thrives in community, going on long walks, cooking, baking and reading a good book.Website: thrive-worldwide.orgThrive LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/thriveworldwide/Personal LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/leanne-marega-kennedy/You’ll LearnWhat embodying change means on a personal and organizational levelThe journey from Interhealth Worldwide to Thrive WorldwideThe importance of culture in supporting staff well-beingPractical steps for creating healthy boundaries for thrivingThe role of leadership in fostering a supportive work environmentLeanne's personal journey with cancer and how it reshaped her views on leadership and communityResources MentionedThrive Worldwide’s Website: thrive-worldwide.org2024 Burnout State of Workplace Report: gallup.comMcKinsey on Organizational Health: mckinsey.comDeloitte’s Insights on Employee Well-being: deloitte.comQuotes“Embodying change means it literally comes from the inside out.” – Leanne Marega“We need to look at the system and consider how leaders lead and managers manage to foster a thriving workplace.” – Leanne Marega“Transformation takes time and commitment, especially in the humanitarian sector.” – Leanne MaregaCall to ActionSubscribe to the Embodying Change podcast for more inspiring conversations.Visit thrive-worldwide.org to learn more about Thrive Worldwide and their work.Connect with Leanne Marega on LinkedIn for further insights and updates.
8/10/202442 minutes, 39 seconds
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46. Reimagining institutions with Mary Ann Clements

How can we create sustainable change within humanitarian and development organizations? In today’s episode of Embodying Change, host Melissa Pitotti welcomes back Mary Ann Clements, a pivotal figure in the history of this podcast and Co-CEO at an organisation working on  disability justice, ADD International. Mary Ann shares her journey from initiating Healing Solidarity to re-imagining an INGO to become a participatory grant maker. You’ll hear about the importance of embodying change, the challenges of reimagining institutions, and the role of power dynamics in achieving sustainable transformation. Stay tuned until the end for Mary Ann’s insights on creating environments that support well-being and resilience.Today’s GuestMary Ann Clements is co-CEO at ADD International and the initiator of Healing Solidarity. With extensive experience in social justice and humanitarian work, Mary Ann is committed to fostering well-being and systemic change in the sector.Website: maryannclements.comSocial Media: LinkedIn You’ll LearnWhat embodying change means and how it influences organizational cultureThe importance of well-being and resilience in creating sustainable changeHow Healing Solidarity started and evolved over timeThe challenges and benefits of collaborative leadershipInsights into the participatory grant-making process at ADD InternationalResources MentionedMary Ann Clements’ website: maryannclements.comADD International: add.org.ukHealing Solidarity YouTube Channel"We can’t hashtag our way to change" by Mary Ann Clements in Alliance Magazine"Power does not shift easily" by Fredrick Ouko and Mary Ann Clements in Alliance MagazineThe Working Well report on the CHS Alliance websiteEmbodying Change podcasts featuring Mary Ann Clements as host:Episode 5 with Dr. Peter Mills Episode 6 with Imogen Wall Episode 7 with Lana Baqaeen Episode 8 with Gemma HouldeyThe CHS Alliance Global Gathering 2021 - Living our values: Care, culture and power in aid - on YouTube Quotes“Embodying change means showing up with vulnerability and leaning into difficult conversations.” – Mary Ann Clements“Creating a supportive work environment requires us to recognize our power dynamics and work towards more inclusive and caring practices.” – Mary Ann ClementsCall to ActionSubscribe to the Embodying Change podcast for more inspiring conversations.Visit maryannclements.com to learn more about Mary Ann’s work and sign up for her newsletter.Engage with Healing Solidarity’s archived content on YouTube for more insights into creating systemic change.
8/2/202447 minutes, 59 seconds
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45. Investing in the nonprofit workforce with Rusty Stahl

Why is burnout so prevalent in the nonprofit sector? How can funders better support the people who deliver?In today’s episode of Embodying Change, host Melissa Pitotti welcomes Rusty Stahl, founder of Fund the People. Rusty shares his journey into philanthropy, the systemic issues leading to chronic underinvestment in nonprofit staff, and the innovative solutions Fund the People advocates for. You’ll learn about the harmful myths surrounding nonprofit overhead, the importance of treating nonprofit staff as essential assets, and practical steps to foster a healthier, more sustainable nonprofit sector.If you're passionate about creating a supportive and effective nonprofit environment, this episode is a must-listen.Today’s GuestRusty Stahl is the founder of Fund the People, an organization dedicated to maximizing investment in the nonprofit workforce. With a background in social justice and philanthropy, Rusty has been a leading voice in advocating for better support and compensation for nonprofit staff.Website: fundthepeople.orgSocial Media: LinkedIn, TwitterYou’ll LearnThe historical and systemic issues leading to underinvestment in nonprofit staffWhy burnout is a symptom of deeper organizational problemsThe concept of "talent investing" and how it can transform the nonprofit sectorPractical steps funders and nonprofits can take to better support their workforceThe importance of aligning funding practices with organizational needs and valuesResources MentionedFund the People Website: fundthepeople.orgFund the People – A Podcast with Rusty Stahl: subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or visit the show webpage to stream episodes, get transcripts, speaker bios, and links to resourcesState of Nonprofits 2024: view the report by the Center for Effective PhilanthropyHow Foundations are Supporting Grantee Staff Well-Being: view the research snapshot by Center for Effective PhilanthropyBlog Post (in response to Center for Effective Philanthropy research): To Ensure Nonprofit Wellbeing, Invest in Wages, Workload, and Working ConditionsThe Guru on Burnout Podcast Episode: Interview with Dr. Christina Maslach HEREQuotes“Burnout is the visible symptom of an invisible problem: the chronic deficit of investment in our workforce.” – Rusty Stahl“Nonprofits are not social change machines; they are composed of people, and funding must reflect that.” – Rusty StahlCall to ActionSubscribe to the Embodying Change podcast for more insightful conversations.Visit fundthepeople.org to explore resources and learn how to support nonprofit staff effectively.
7/27/20241 hour, 2 minutes, 59 seconds
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44. Rolling up our sleeves with Pauline Chetcuti

Do you ever feel overwhelmed by the complexities and challenges of humanitarian work? Are you looking for signs of hope that, together, we can transform the sector?In today’s episode of Embodying Change, host Melissa Pitotti welcomes Pauline Chetcuti, the newly elected president of VOICE. Pauline shares her journey from international law to humanitarian advocacy, discussing the importance of saying no, the power of collective action, and the challenges of decolonizing and transforming humanitarian work.Today’s guestPauline Chetcuti is the newly elected president of VOICE, the largest European humanitarian NGO network. With a background in international law and extensive experience in the humanitarian sector, Pauline is committed to advocating for effective, principled humanitarian aid and elevating local voices in global conversations.Website: voiceeu.orgSocial Media: Twitter, LinkedInYou’ll learnWhat embodying change means in the context of humanitarian workThe importance of setting boundaries and saying noHow local voices can drive systemic change in the humanitarian sectorThe challenges of decolonizing and transforming humanitarian practicesThe role of VOICE in advocating for effective humanitarian aidResources mentionedVOICE Website: voiceeu.orgPledge for Change: pledgeforchange.orgCharter for Change: charter4change.orgHumanitarian and Climate Charter: ifrc.org/climate-charterQuotes“Embodying change is positively, proactively embracing change with openness and a willingness to be challenged and to learn every day.” – Pauline Chetcuti“Our local colleagues are the biggest motivation for change because, for them, it's their communities that transform.” – Pauline ChetcutiCall to ActionSubscribe to the Embodying Change podcast for more inspiring conversations.Visit voiceeu.org to learn more about the VOICE network and how you can get involved.Connect with Pauline on Twitter and LinkedIn for more insights and updates.
7/19/202429 minutes, 25 seconds
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43. Redefining “resilience” with Gemma Houldey

Do you ever wonder how vulnerability and power dynamics shape your work in the humanitarian sector? Are you curious about how funding practices can better support well-being?In today’s episode of Embodying Change, host Melissa Pitotti welcomes back Gemma Houldey, author of The Vulnerable Humanitarian. Gemma shares her journey from human rights advocacy to becoming a thought leader regarding humanitarian well-being. You’ll hear about the importance of showing up with vulnerability, understanding power dynamics, and how feminist funders are pioneering new approaches to support long-term organizational well-being.If you're passionate about creating a more supportive and sustainable humanitarian sector, this episode is a must-listen.Today’s GuestGemma Houldey is a researcher, facilitator and space-holder for more caring and inclusive working cultures in the aid sector. Her book “The Vulnerable Humanitarian: Ending Burnout Culture in the Aid Sector,” draws on her own story and the accounts of over a hundred national and international aid workers she interviewed. The book explores the systemic causes of burnout in aid work, and provides guideposts for managers and staff to cultivate and embody collective resilience and care in the workplace. Her most recent research investigates the role of grantmakers in funding more sustainable, resilient human rights movements. Gemma works with individuals and organisations to support them to ‘walk the talk’ on principles of anti-oppression, by integrating decolonial approaches to wellbeing into everyday work routines and practices that deepen a sense of belonging and shared purpose. Website: gemmahouldey.comSocial Media: LinkedIn, InstagramYou’ll LearnWhat embodying change means in the context of vulnerability and power dynamicsHow personal and organizational well-being are interconnectedThe impact of funding practices on the well-being of humanitarian workersThe role of feminist funders in promoting sustainable well-being initiativesPractical steps for creating supportive work environmentsResources MentionedGemma Houldey’s Website: gemmahouldey.comThe Vulnerable Humanitarian: Available on Routledge and other bookselling websitesNewsletter Sign-Up: Available on Gemma’s website for updates and resources, including a free chapter of her book and 25% discount code to buy it. Quotes“Embodying change means showing up with vulnerability and leaning into difficult conversations.” – Gemma Houldey“We need to decolonize well-being and allow partners to define what it means for them.” – Gemma HouldeyCall to ActionSubscribe to the Embodying Change podcast for more inspiring conversations.Visit gemmahouldey.com to learn more about Gemma’s work and sign up for her newsletter.Join Gemma’s upcoming book circle to embody change through shared learning and practice on wellbeing and resilience in a supportive community.
7/12/20241 hour, 7 minutes, 12 seconds
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42. We are feminist leaders with Leila Billing and Natalie Brook

Episode 42: We Are Feminist Leaders with Leila Billing and Natalie BrookDo you ever feel conflicted by traditional leadership models that don’t align with your values? Are you curious about how feminist principles can transform the way we approach leadership, especially in the humanitarian sector?In today’s episode of Embodying Change, host Melissa Pitotti sits down with Leila Billing and Natalie Brook, founders of We Are Feminist Leaders. Leila and Natalie share their journey from feeling disillusioned by patriarchal and colonial leadership structures to creating a transformative program that empowers leaders to bring about genuine change. You’ll hear about the practical applications of feminist leadership, the importance of self-awareness, and the power of community and continuous learning.If you're passionate about making a difference and leading with your values, this episode will inspire you and provide actionable insights into embodying change in your own life and work.Today’s GuestsLeila Billing and Natalie BrookLeila Billing and Natalie Brook are the visionary founders of We Are Feminist Leaders, an organization dedicated to fostering feminist leadership in humanitarian and development sectors. Through their 12-week online program and new membership learning network, they empower leaders to challenge traditional power structures, embrace intersectionality, and cultivate caring, inclusive work environments. Leila and Natalie draw inspiration from feminist movements around the world, particularly from the Global Majority, and aim to decentralize Western-centric leadership models. You can check out their bios here.Website: wearefeministleaders.comSocial Media: Instagram and LinkedInYou’ll learn:What it means to embody change in the humanitarian sectorThe importance of self-awareness and transformation in feminist leadershipHow patriarchal and colonial dynamics affect traditional leadership modelsPractical applications of feminist leadership in various contextsThe power of community and continuous learning in driving changeReal-life examples of participants applying feminist leadership principlesResources MentionedWe Are Feminist Leaders Website: wearefeministleaders.comCourse information and registration: HERE Newsletter Sign-Up: Available on their website for regular updates and resources HERE Social Media: Follow We Are Feminist Leaders on LinkedIn and Instagram.Quotes“For me, embodying change means thinking through how we want to show up in this moment, whether we’re humanitarians or not.” – Leila Billing“Feminist leadership starts with the self and requires a long-term commitment to developing self-awareness and the willingness to learn and unlearn.” – Natalie BrookCall to ActionSubscribe to the Embodying Change podcast for more inspiring conversations.Visit wearefeministleaders.com to learn more about Leila and Natalie’s work and to sign up for their upcoming 12-week course starting in September and newsletter.
7/9/202446 minutes, 16 seconds
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41. "If it's itchy, uncomfortable, messy, and hurts..." with Sarah Diedro Jordão

This conversation with Sarah Diedro Jordão provides a deep and heartfelt exploration of what it means to embody change and foster love in the quest for a more equitable society. “Going through a painful process can very much be part of embodying change. If it's itchy, uncomfortable, messy, and hurts, change is probably on the other side of that. So there’s hope." -Sarah Diedro Jordão Sarah Diedro Jordão is a multi-passionate & versatile consultant. She works as a communications strategist, DEIB consultant, facilitator and podcast host. The driving interests foundational to her work are intersectional social justice, Black feminism, as well as collective dreaming. Among other things she served as an Intersectionality expert for the North-South Center of the Council of Europe, a moderator for the World Forum for Democracy and a podcast host for the European Greens.  Sarah has also been facilitating a drop-in space for BIPOC professionals in the international NGO and aid sector for the last 2 years through Healing Solidarity.  Anyone interested in joining can email her at [email protected] more about Sarah Diedro Jordão on LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/sarahdiedro andHer website: https://sarahdiedrojordao.com/  Check out bell hooks’ book, "all about love: new visions," for further reading on the role of love in social justice.Thank you to Ziada Abeid for editing the show! If you’re a humanitarian woman working internationally and you’d like to meet other women like you, request to join the free Humanitarian Women’s Collaborative on Mighty Networks here: https://the-humanitarian-women-s-collaborative.mn.co/admin/landing-page. 
7/5/202440 minutes, 47 seconds
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40. Menopause with Scotti McClaren

Humanitarian women are exposed to chronic stress, which can impact their experience of peri-menopause, menopause and post-menopause.In this episode of Embodying Change Scotti McLaren shares her experience and insight as it relates to this under-explored and yet powerful time of a woman’s life – before, during and after actual “M day.”What are the symptoms and what can we do about them?Scotti practices functional medicine and personalized nutrition, specializing in menopause and mental health. Following a career in audit and humanitarian aid (MSF), and eventual burnout, her process of recovery led to a profound shift towards the healing power of nutrition. Now, Scotti champions a gentle revolution in resilience and vitality, for herself and others. Her clinical practice is dedicated to investigating, identifying and addressing the root drivers of health – both illness and wellness - to help women reach their best health in midlife and beyond.Check out Scotti’s website here: https://www.investigative-health.ch/If you’re a humanitarian woman working internationally and you’d like to meet other women like you, request to join the free Humanitarian Women’s Collaborative on Mighty Networks here: https://the-humanitarian-women-s-collaborative.mn.co/admin/landing-page. 
6/26/202428 minutes, 2 seconds
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39. The power of self-leadership with Lucette Quarteron

In this light-hearted episode of "Embodying Change," we sit down with Lucette Quarteron, a dynamic global citizen and visionary leader. Lucette shares her unique insights on self-leadership, the proper use of power, and conflict management, drawing from her rich personal and professional journey. Discover how Lucette transforms organizational cultures, fosters workplace trust, and empowers others to embrace change.Key Takeaways:The importance of self-leadership and healing personal wounds to lead others effectively.Strategies for managing emotions in conflict situations.The significance of standing up for your values and setting boundaries.How to build trust and acknowledge the contributions of others in a professional setting.Compelling Quotes:"You need to heal your wounds. If you don't heal your personal wounds, you're going to create wounds in others. Self-leadership is being aware of yourself so that it impacts others positively.""When the emotion is overwhelming, the brain cannot function. You can just acknowledge that the person is furious and suggest discussing it later. It’s about managing emotions first so that you can think clearly.""Stand up for your beliefs and values, whatever the consequences. If you don't respect yourself, nobody will. It’s like not respecting yourself if you don’t put boundaries."Resources Mentioned:Conflict Management Workshop - Join Lucette on June 25th at the beautiful Chateau D'Ouchy in Lausanne.Gary Chapman and Paul White's Book on Workplace Appreciation - Learn about the five languages of appreciation in the workplace.The Leading Well report - Learn about the 10 practices sited by aid leaders to Lead WellConnect with Lucette Quartiron:Lucette Quarteron's website: Explore Lucette’s work and contact her for coaching sessions or workshopsLinkedIn: Lucette Quarteron's profileYouTube: Lucette Quartiron on Conflict Management (in French)Subscribe & Review: If you enjoyed this episode, please subscribe to "Embodying Change" on your favorite podcast platform and leave a review. Your feedback helps us reach more listeners and continue to bring you inspiring content.Join Us Next Time: Stay tuned for more insightful conversations that help you embody change in your own life and work. Thank you for listening!
6/7/202456 minutes, 25 seconds
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How to get and keep an accountability buddy with Helen Dunnett

Join us in this conversation with Helen Dunnett, Melissa’s accountability buddy. In today's episode, Helen shares her personal journey of transformation and discusses the powerful tools of nonviolent communication and assertiveness that have shaped her approach to coaching. She also shares the story of how she approached Melissa years ago to become her accountability buddy, and the five questions she designed to guide their weekly conversations. What You'll Learn:The story of Helen's career transition from communications and marketing to coaching.Insights into nonviolent communication and how it can transform workplace and personal relationships.Practical tips for becoming more assertive without infringing on others' rights.The impact of coaching on personal empowerment and stress reduction.Featured in This Episode:Helen Dunnett, an ICF accredited coach, works with organizations to develop their teams. She brings together her experience of teamwork and team leadership with her coaching tools to create highly practical training modules that enable participants to walk out of each session armed with insights and skills that should create a step-change in performance. She has worked for over 25 years in the UK and Belgium with a diverse range of team structures such as freelance teams, volunteers, start-ups and small organizations, federations, multinationals and consulting agencies.For Our Listeners:Check out Helen's website for a copy of the Accountability Buddy Starter Kit here:https://www.helendunnett.com/home/accountability-buddyMany thanks to Ziada Abeid for editing the podcast and Michelle Sandler for help designing the Kit!
5/31/20241 hour, 9 minutes, 43 seconds
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Get in the "growth zone" with Cindy Rocha

Join host Melissa Pitotti as she welcomes change advocate Cindy Rocha for a morning conversation filled with insights on embracing vulnerability and stepping out of comfort zones for transformative personal and professional growth.Highlights:1.     Defining Embodying Change: Cindy explains how real change involves putting oneself in the 'growth zone' — a space beyond comfort that necessitates learning, unlearning, and relearning.2.     Navigating Change and Discomfort: Discussing the discomfort that accompanies change, Cindy illustrates how adapting to new situations is crucial for development and progress.3.     Impact of Technological Evolution: They delve into the accelerated pace of technological advancements and its effects on society and individual adaptability.4.     Transformation through AIESEC: Cindy shares her transformative journey with AIESEC, highlighting the organization's role in fostering international understanding and leadership skills.5.     Applying Lean and Six Sigma in Humanitarian Efforts: The conversation turns to how Lean and Six Sigma methodologies can streamline operations and improve efficiency in humanitarian contexts.6.     The Critical Role of Mental Health: Cindy and Melissa discuss the importance of acknowledging and supporting mental health in the workplace to ensure a healthy, productive workforce.Listeners are encouraged to reflect on how they can push beyond their comfort zones and embrace change both personally and professionally. Follow Cindy on LinkedIn to continue the conversation and gain more insights into making impactful changes. linkedin.com/in/cindyrochaCindy Rocha has spent the last 15 years creating bridges between different sectors and managing programs to create positive change. This all started while she was a college student in Sinaloa, her home state in northern Mexico, and joined AIESEC, an international student association present in 100 countries. Founded after the 2nd World War with the mission of "peace and fulfillment of humankind's potential," AIESEC is a youth-led organization that facilitates international understanding through exchanges and leadership development programs. While those opportunities are readily available for students in the Global North, that was not the case in Cindy's local context. She worked for AIESEC at the national, regional and global level, joining AIESEC International, a multicultural team leading a network of more than 60,000 volunteers worldwide. In her final AIESEC position, Cindy was appointed Director for the Africa region, and became the first woman in that role in 60 years of organizational history. After AIESEC, Cindy has held a variety of jobs in the social impact field: She worked in corporate responsibility and process improvement for a multinational company, then as a UNDP consultant to engage the private sector in projects around the Sustainable Development Goals in Mexico, transitioned to the nonprofit sector in a disaster response organization, and currently focuses on mobilizing philanthropy to strengthen the ability of communities to withstand disasters and recover equitably when they occur. Tune in next time for more inspiring stories and practical advice on the Embodying Change Podcast!
5/16/202453 minutes, 50 seconds
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Identity and belonging with Annemarie Shrouder

Annemarie Shrouder shares her personal journey with identity and discusses her work building inclusive cultures and communities. She and Melissa explore the difference between learning and BEING something (embodying change), the challenges of mixed race identity, creating safe and/or brave spaces, and the importance of representation, belonging and community support.Topics Discussed:  Identity and embodying change Inclusion and belonging in organizations Leadership, empathy and localization  Diversity in leadership and overcoming barriers Creating inclusive cultures and speaking up against injusticeKey Insights: Embodying change means living what you learn, not just talking about it Inclusion alone is not enough without addressing oppressive systems  Self-care and vulnerability are acts of resistance for historically disadvantaged  groups Both safe spaces and brave spaces are needed to have meaningful conversations (and this article by Elise Ahenkorah takes it a step further talking about accountable spaces)Annemarie Shrouder – international best-selling author of Being Brown in a Black and White World: Conversations for Leaders on Race, Racism and Belonging - has spent more than 20 years in the field of Equity, Diversity & Inclusion (EDI) as a facilitator, consultant, and international speaker. An expert in EDI with a Masters in Bias Awareness, Annemarie assists in the creation of healthy workplace communities through her Signature Methodology and Inclusive Leadership Program. Organizations turn to Annemarie when they are looking to build environments where people can learn and are supported, and where they are acknowledged and valued.  She also delivers presentations and keynotes, and can be booked for speaking engagements that inspire people to notice more, and raise awareness about the importance of inclusion. Annemarie works with diversity broadly and is passionate about healing the racial divide and supporting LGBTQ+ inclusion.  To learn more, check out:Her website: https://annemarieshrouder.com/Her community for leaders committed to building belonging: https://ediwithheart.wordpress.com/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/annemarieshrouder/Her book: https://annemarieshrouder.com/book/“Embodying change is the difference between learning something and BEING something.”-       Annemarie Shrouder
3/25/202441 minutes
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The #1 thing you need to transition, with Nasra Ismail

In this episode, Melissa Pitotti and Nasra Ismail have a candid conversation about navigating transitions, power dynamics, and the principles of localization in the humanitarian sector. They share personal anecdotes and insights into their professional journeys, discussing the challenges and opportunities they encountered along the way. From experiencing shifts in power dynamics to embracing localization as a personal and professional practice, they delve into the complexities of working in the humanitarian field and the importance of aligning personal values with professional endeavors. Join them as they explore the intersection of personal and professional growth, which could be helpful for anyone navigating career transitions or seeking to create meaningful change in their communities.BackgroundNasra Ismail is Alight's newly appointed U.S. Enterprise Executive Director, where she leads a team to build and expand welcoming communities for newcomers to the United States. With a career spanning two decades, Nasra's journey has taken her across the globe, from leading public policy in Washington D.C. to delivering humanitarian aid in East Africa and shaping social justice movement strategy in philanthropy for the past three years. As a first-generation immigrant, Nasra champions interconnected communities founded on principles of equity and inclusion, all working towards a shared future. Nasra has held leadership roles at organizations including the U.S Millennium Challenge Corporation, Care US, Oxfam International, Co-Impact, and GivingTuesday. Her unique blend of experiences in humanitarian, public, and philanthropic sectors all reflect her core values, which were enriched by her personal displacement journey from Somalia. In this episode, Melissa and Nasrareflect on their professional journeys, highlighting the transitions they've experienced and the lessons learneddiscuss the impact of power dynamics on relationships and professional interactions, sharing personal experiences of navigating shifts in powershare insights into the principles of localization and its significance in empowering local communities to drive change and participate fully in humanitarian effortsexplore the intersection of personal and professional values, emphasizing the importance of aligning one's purpose with their workoffer encouragement and advice for individuals navigating career transitions or seeking to create positive change in their communitiesdiscuss the role of community support and collaboration in fostering personal and professional growth, highlighting the value of mutual aid and solidarityMelissa's conclusionCommunity is the #1 thing you need when navigating a values-aligned career transition in the humanitarian sector.Resources mentionedNasra Ismail's LinkedIn profile: linkedin.com/in/nasraismailNasra Ismail's X (Twitter) profile: @NAS_ismsNasra is the U.S. Enterprise Executive Director of Alight, and you can learn more about Alight at: https://wearealight.org/ Their previous podcast conversation can be found here: https://changemakingwomen.com/guest-series-embodying-change-4-nasra-ismail-director-of-the-somalia-ngo-consortium/ 
2/28/202444 minutes, 39 seconds
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Giving Joy with Joy Kolin

In this episode Melissa speaks with Joy Kolin, Executive Director and Board President of Giving Joy. Joy has 20-years of experience in the field of international development, a career that has taken her to over 60 countries. Throughout her travels, Joy found herself touched by a common trend - the immense ability of women to affect positive change if given the resources and opportunities to do so. In 2018 she established Giving Joy as a way to harness and grow the power and the influence of women-led ventures the world over. Now, women from any country, across any trade or industry, can apply for a one-time grant between $250 to $500 to jump start and/or expand their operations. To learn more check out:-       Giving Joy: https://givingjoygrants.org -       Email: [email protected] ***Thanks to Ziada Abeid for editing the show.***
12/8/202345 minutes, 50 seconds
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Life-centric work with Wouter Smeets

How can we better manage our workload, as per Commitment 8 of the Core Humanitarian Standard?* In this episode Melissa speaks with Wouter Smeets, a design-thinker, about how to re-shape our work in a way that gives us energy, rather than drains it.  He gives us some good questions to ask ourselves, like: How do we design our morning routine? What makes a break a good break? What task can we do first that will put us on good footing for the rest of the day? What are some life-centric strategies for managing our calendar? He also reveals a free, work-enhancing drug that has zero side effects. And he talks about a ground-breaking process he’s involved with to create a safe space for exchanging ideas that is also a brave space for experimenting with putting these ideas into practice to make our work more life-enriching. Wouter Smeets co-founded Prototype You, a community lab for explorers who challenge accepted norms about work, to co-create ways of working where people and organisations thrive. It’s a community lab with workshops, conversations, and experiments to cultivate work that enriches people’s lives. When he’s not working he’s usually visiting the sea, hiking, or running on the athletics track. To learn more check out:-       Wouter on Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/wouter-smeets/-       Prototype You at https://www.prototypeyou.nl/community -       Wouter’s newsletter where he shares gems from the lab here: https://prototypeyou.ck.page/newsletter -       Wouter’s email is: [email protected] ***Thanks to Ziada Abeid for editing the show.****Core Humanitarian Standard Commitment 8: Communities and people affected by crisis receive the assistance they require from competent and well-managed staff and volunteers. 
7/7/202351 minutes, 40 seconds
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A victim/ survivor perspective with Sabrina Prioli

In this conversation, Melissa speaks with Sabrina Prioli, the author of a memoir called “Rise up, phoenix” and one of the victim/survivors of the 2016 Terrain Compound Attacks in Juba, South Sudan. Sabrina shares her insights into how to better support victim/survivors and hold perpetrators accountable for their actions. She also explains the nuances of the words “victim” vs. “survivor” and how to cope when hearing about traumatic incidents like hers.  *Note: This conversation includes references to rape and may be triggering for some listeners.* Sabrina Prioli is currently a Certified Professional Co-Active Coach, Mental Fitness Coach and Mental Health First Aid (MHFA). She is an independent consultant and she supports organisations in raising awareness, prevention and preparation on the issue of sexual abuse, violence and rape. She worked for years as an aid worker and consultant for humanitarian projects. Sabrina helped develop the planning, monitoring and evaluation (PM&E) plans for her own and different partner implementing projects. She has worked as a researcher and PM&E consultant for universities, NGOs and governments in Latin America, Africa and Europe. She has experience and knowledge in the thematic areas of protection, education, economic empowerment and gender equality which allow her to develop the appropriate indicators and PM&E tools. In 2011 she created a foundation “Fundacion Hilo Sagrado”, dedicated to the conservation of culture and tradition of the indigenous peoples of Guajira, in Colombia, to strengthen the identity and social role of women. In 2021, for her civil commitment in favour of women victims of violence and abuse, she won the "Woman Award 2021" and the award “Il Paese delle Donne Award 2021." In 2022 she won solidarity award, “Premio Solidarietà” Premio Nazionale Pratola 2022. Sabrina has a degree in Sociology, a Masters in Project Management for International Organisations, and Certification in Monitoring & Evaluation & Facilitation. Sabrina's website: https://en.sabrinaprioli.com/ Sabrina's 2020 memoir "Rise up, phoenix": https://en.sabrinaprioli.com/il-mio-libro To learn more about the CHS Alliance work on organisational culture and well-being, see:https://www.chsalliance.org/organisational-culture-and-people-management/  ***Thanks to Ziada Abeid for editing the show.***
3/24/202353 minutes, 8 seconds
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“Mental health at work” with Dr. Aiysha Malik of the WHO

In this episode Melissa speaks with Dr. Aiysha Malik, a mental health specialist at the World Health Organization working for a world that supports, improves, and does not harm mental health. They discuss the WHO guidelines on mental health and work and accompanying WHO-ILO policy brief. What do the guidelines say and what can you do with them? Check out the WHO guidelines on mental health at work here: https://www.who.int/publications/i/item/9789240053052  And the WHO-ILO mental health at work policy brief here: https://www.who.int/publications/i/item/9789240057944 To learn more about the CHS Alliance work on organisational culture and well-being, see:https://www.chsalliance.org/get-support/article/cultivating-caring-compassionate-aid-organisations/  ***Thanks to Ziada Abeid for editing the show.*** Please leave a review by scrolling down the show page, selecting a star rating, and tapping “Write a review.”
2/17/202334 minutes, 22 seconds
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When you picture Doctors without Borders what do you see?

Melissa speaks with: Dr. Chinonso Emmanuel Okorie, an MSF doctor living in Rwanda who recently completed a mission in Yemen; Lindis Hurun, the General Director of MSF Norway; and Ryan Rodrick Beiler, a multimedia producer for MSF Norway. They and several colleagues were involved in the production of a video that has made waves in the humanitarian community for its handling of structural racism and patient dignity using a technique called “the duet.” In this podcast interview they talk about why and how the video came to be, the organisational culture changes that were happening behind the scenes, the public reaction to the video, and lessons learned they want to share with other humanitarians.  Check out the video, “When you picture Doctors without Borders, what do you see?” - here:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DFemg94ufU Excerpt from the video:“This is not about us and them. This is not about heroes and victims.This is about global solidarity and humanitarian justice.Because we are all just human beings, with the same worth and dignity, and the same right to live in safety and health.”  To learn more about the CHS Alliance work on power, organisational culture and well-being, see:https://www.chsalliance.org/organisational-culture-and-people-management/  ***Thanks to Ziada Abeid for editing the show.***
1/27/202340 minutes, 22 seconds
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The Pledge for Change with Degan Ali of Adeso

In this episode Melissa Pitotti speaks with Degan Ali, the Executive Director of Adeso, about the story behind the Pledge for Change 2030. They explore the ways in which the process that led to the Pledge was informed by lessons learned from the Charter for Change and the Grand Bargain. They consider the need for brave leaders to have safe spaces to come together on tough issues - and for leaders to be evaluated on metrics of success other than “bigger is better.” They end with reflections on equitable partnerships and accountability mechanisms. Degan Ali is Executive Director of the African humanitarian and development organisation Adeso, as well as co-founder of the first Global South civil society network for local and national humanitarian organisations, the Network for Empowered Aid Response (NEAR). She is a Rockefeller Foundation Global Fellow for Social Innovation, and a contributor to the Overseas Development Institute/Humanitarian Policy Group and Global Food Security journal. Her work has been featured in The New York Times, Al Jazeera and The Guardian. Degan holds an M.A. in international service from University of Roehampton and a B.A. from Trinity College. She lives in Kenya and works with organisations across the Global North and South. To learn more about the Pledge for Change 2030 check out:-       The Pledge for Change website: https://pledgeforchange2030.org/ -       The launch of the Pledge on the New Humanitarian Podcast at https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/event-launch-of-the-pledge-for-change-2030/id1420089508?i=1000584624738 To learn more about the CHS Revision Process check out: https://corehumanitarianstandard.org/chs-revision  ***Thanks to Ziada Abeid for editing the show.***
1/9/202327 minutes, 56 seconds